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So I’m coming up to my anniversary this again. We’ve been together for about 4 years. Started dating her at 18. We moved in together this year but prior to that I actually broke up with her at one point. Long story short her parents and her called me and my family and basically begged for me back. Now I’m able to be tough when I need to be physically but emotionally I can be sensitive and I felt bad and decided to give things one last chance.

Huge, huge f~~~ing mistake, amazingly I forgot how every single month without fail we would get into arguments and fights. I forgot that my social life has literally been reduced to me talking to my co-workers who I hate and a few people that attend my classes at university. I haven’t made a new female friend or male friend for that matter in the past 4 years. I was depressed for a long time and it was only recently that I realized I was scared to flirt with girls and have my GF find out and she’d bitch me out. On several occasions she has told on me to her parents on times when I would like another persons photo on Instagram or Facebook.

She’s selfish, lazy, boring and friendless one of the main reasons I’ve stayed with her for this long. If she had anyone else I would be gone. But now I’m starting to suspect she knows this and purposely doesn’t make friends. Terrible with money I was richer when I was 18 than I am now and she expects me to shower her with gifts.

So I’m 23 almost 24 and I’ve realized this is my one life I need to be free and explore the world while I still have a chance. I do feel tremendously bad for abandoning her but I don’t want to live my life full of regret and banging this same person for the next 60 years. But frankly our sex life has been terrible for the last 2 years. There are so many hot woman in the world and so many opportunities I would have had had I been single. Not to mention I probably would have saved 10-15 grand by this point would be way less stressed and have developed a lot more money making skills.

So she’s signed on a 1 year lease with me. I have no intentions of renewing it and I’ve been saving as best I can given my circumstance. I’m planning on leaving the country, doing some volunteering and when I finally move back it wont be to the same place (if I ever do come back at all). What can I do to make sure she doesn’t catch me and stop me? I don’t want to leave her family with a bunch of s~~~ to move. I don’t want her to find out and pull on my emotions to keep me from leaving. I just need to disappear fast with 0 contact.

I’m not a bad guy, I don’t even hate her. I just feel sorry for her, but I need my freedom and I need to experience some things on my own while I’m still young and able to. Please give me support and advice if you have any. I’m so f~~~ing bored of this life right now.

[SolidusXParticipant]

Thanks everyone…. I never thought I would be able to rid myself of that bitch but I was laser focused on it and everything seemed to fall in place. An update for you, she finally tracked me down and served me papers to try to get money out of me as she claims we lived together. Boy was she sweat’en bullets when I showed up to court with stacks of papers and receipts detailing her as a renter only. Also as @M52 said after I left I never was alone with her and made sure to video tape every encounter I had with her as she also tried to pull the abuse card. Suffice to say the judge ruled in my favour and thankfully I never saw her again. I wish I had video taped her face fuming it would have been hilarious.

Brothers it is hard to get out clean, I have horror stories from friends of similar situations… Moral and lessons I learned from my story the hard way is this:

1. If you want to leave your situation you can no mater what your situation is, it takes loads of planning and patience but the rewards are worth it.
2. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING WITH RECEIPTS, LEGAL RECORDS, VIDEO, AUDIO… EVERYTHING!!!!! in the start of the relationship up till the end. Also make copies of everything and keep offsite with a third party service like DropBox.
3. Never try for revenge, go the legal route. I know it sucks but trust me if you have your legal ducks are in a row you will not get hosed in the he said she said battle as we know men will lose that war.
4. Get a rock solid exit strategy, think of every possible outcome and contingency as well as have a backup for everything.
5. TELL NO ONE YOUR PLAN NOT EVEN YOUR BEST FRIEND, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHO THE TURNCOAT IS, COULD EVEN BE YOUR FAMILY.
6. You have to be ruthless, as soon as you start to waiver in anyway because she may cry or beg you are now a mangina/whitenight and you are already doomed.

Take it from me its f~~~ing hard as hell to get all this together but if you are very invested in the bitch you are leaving (Kids/house/etc) the better the plan the better your outcome is.

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

Hello brothers, I am a newbie to the MGTOW site but I learned almost 6 years ago what women are and have been staying away. I am not the best looking guy and kind of short so women see me as an easy target as I do have money. But after this last experience I am so wise now as to what women are…. So here is my story of my tipping point, it’s a doozey so get yer’ popcorn and beer.

2008 I was (still am) a mostly successful day trader (buying and selling stocks on the stock market to make money) just moving through life. I was single, getting a bit lonely, and starting to think about my future. I was already resided with not wanting kids but a wife or at least a partner in crime was on the docket. I did the typical online dating etc as trying to meet anyone where I live is like pulling teeth. So far was not making much success with that.

Fast forward to 2009, I met a lovely (at the time) women with no kids, very good looking, had some BS job in event planning but I did not care as she was hot, and did not want kids as so she first said. We started to date and get close and she eventually moved in. First red flag was she was very reluctant at signing a rental agreement to move in with me. In Canada you become common law after 6 months of living together last I checked and seeing as she had hardly any assets and I had the most I did not want to lose things. She eventually did sign and we lived together…

Fast forward to 2010, things are getting quite bad…. The woman’s job was not working well anymore and she was falling behind in rent and other costs we agreed to split. She was getting more bitchy and mean by the day throwing temper tantrums and other chick BS. You see I was mostly paying for our dates and buying her nice things which she got accustomed to… but as the money started to dry up for her she pushed me to pay for more. She would say things like “Oh just be a man and pay it” and my favourite “Your the man your supposed to take care of the women”. During Christmas season things were s~~~ on the markets for me and I was making almost 70% less money so instead of doing our fancy christmas presents and parties etc I toned it down. I decided it would be a great idea and romantic if I got some canvas and paints so we could paint a picture together as a couple. Boy did she not like that, she blew up and threw a tantrum accusing me of not loving her etc etc blah blah blah. But what really got me was she through my present in the fireplace and stormed out of the house to her witch of a mother. I was very heart broken at this as I actually put effort into this instead of buying some damn jewellery or other trinket.

She eventually came back now with her mother for whatever f~~~en reason for them to now list out their demands at what “A Man” should be doing to take care of his woman. 1 hour later of verbal bitch diarrhoea the mother left with a smug look on her face and the girlfriend proceeded to laugh at the situation and my Christmas present still smouldering in the fire place. Brothers you have no idea how hard it was for me not to c~~~ punt that bitch back into the stone age. I kept my calm though and devised my exit strategy that day. Based off some really good advice from a lawyer friend of mine and from my own money knowledge I devised the perfect ghosting strategy. This strategy would leave me non legally obligated to cover anything (I was damn lucky I got her to sign a rental agreement showing her as a tenant and not common law) and for me to leave clean.

The Strategy
1. Seeing as both our names were on the rental I contacted my landlord a few days after Christmas letting them know I was leaving and I would settle up my end of the rent.
2. I took my name off all the utility bills in advance, stating I was leaving the rental.
3. I called ahead some of my friends for a predetermined time to come help me shotgun move everything I owned in one day.
4. I pre-setup the cancellation of all the things I was paying for that c~~~ (gym membership, netflix, etc etc).
5. FaceBook purge her, all her friends and friends of friends, and her witch mother on the day of the move so they could not see me or find me.
6. Finally I would agree with everything that c~~~ said and told her it was all my fault for everything so she would not get suspicious of anything.

Brothers let me tell you when the day came when this c~~~ left for work my plan launched like military precision. The boys came over and we liquidated everything that was mine from the house (I made sure to video tape what we were doing and what I was taking for backup), all accounts closed, and I was out of there. I was nice enough to leave a note stating why I left and what I have done, I also left a $5 bill for a tissue box this bitch would need for all the tears she is going to shed for now having to pay for everything herself. Bitch was ghosted….

I have never felt better in my life ridding myself of female relation-s~~~s. I get the odd high end escort to f~~~ when I need it but never have wanted to go back to another woman again. I love my mother and my grandmother but the women of this day in age are so f~~~ed with modernized feminism and thinking they control men that I can never go back. I would rather be with my dog…

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

Feminists are being confronted with the harsh reality of biology.

Did I note a small hint of surrender in this article? Especially, the part where she advocates that sex-ed should include education about ‘respect’?

Some solid redpills in the comments section.

But those shiny summer nails couldn’t mask a breaking heart. Because as my friend held my newborn, a few kilometres away the man she loved was holding his. Babies, he’d told her throughout their decade-long relationship, were not part of his life plan.

Yet here he was, 18 months later, a father.

How many women relinquish their child-rearing years to men who say they don’t want children only to find their beloved has knocked up someone else months after the relationship is over?

Actor Guy Pearce got me thinking about it this week.

There are enough babies in the world, he said.

I’m not consistent enough to be a parent, he said. It’s really hard work having kids, he said.

But five months after he announced he and his wife of 18 years had amicably split, he’s confirmed he’s expecting a baby with Game of Thrones actress Carice van Houten.

I’m not having a crack at Pearce. Private lives are just that and by all accounts Pearce’s ex felt just as ambivalent about having kids.

But for the rest of us, as careers have become our life’s focus and relationships have grown more transactional I’m seeing more and more women living lives carved out by circumstance not choice.

Women need to ask themselves if they want children. First at high school, then in their early 20s, then every two years thereafter.

If the answer is consistently “yes”, they need to plan for it as determinedly as they might a promotion or a financial goal.

Just as they’ll leave a job if it’s in the best interest of their professional aspirations, so they must leave relationships if they’re inhibiting their personal ones.

Men, too, must take responsibility. If you don’t want children yet she does, then be a grown up and let her go.

You can change your mind in later years and sprog ’til you’re 80, but if you squander her biological window through arrogance or false promises then you’re a selfish jerk.

Stealing a woman’s child- bearing potential when you have no intention of having a child is morally reprehensible and can have as profound an effect on her future wellbeing as violence or sexual assault.

Being honest about your fatherly intentions is as vital as telling someone you have HIV.

Yet transparency and integrity are no longer central elements in the brittle world of sexting, Tinder and porn. Schools, flailing between birds and bees biology and government-mandated tolerance of gender fluidity, are failing to teach our kids the values at the heart of all relationships: respect, honesty, care. Of course, this also has to be learnt at home — that life is not just what we do with our bodies and brains, it’s what we do with our hearts.

As sex infiltrates our kids’ lives ever earlier through technology and pop culture, and their self-worth is predicated on how they look not what they think, it’s imperative we teach them that relationships are the building blocks of life. If we’re going to pour in sex advice, careers advice, bullying advice and how to pass exams advice, then we also need to nourish them with love advice.

Research out this week highlights the gulf in what kids are being taught and what they want to know. The focus is still on function rather than feeling, according to the research by Deakin University.

“Students are telling us they want learning to extend beyond how to put a condom on a banana,” Dr Debbie Ollis says. “They want to know more about how to handle the emotional side of relationships — respect, love, starting a relationship, breaking up, sexual pleasure, and a host of other topics.”

Parents, too, need to guide. They need to play old love songs and talk about their romantic lives and be bold enough to say that porn is not real sex. They need to counter the shallow, saccharine, hyper-groomed dating on The Bachelor with old photographs of camping trips with their boyfriends, love letters and memories of kisses under waterfalls. Finally, they need to tell their children about the moment they were born, how precious it was, and that one of the most important decisions they’ll ever make is whether they want that for themselves.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/rendezview/dont-be-selfish-tell-her-if-you-dont-want-kids/news-story/adf8bf06f5dc309a9f7c0d505c9731e9#load-story-comments

[Anonymous]

I was about to make this post.
Just let me say this, risking sounding redundant and c~~~y: I freaking CALLED IT.

Again, not long ago, when people would put videos of Sargon of Akkad and Thunderf00t here, I would advise: these people will be the first ones to turn against Mgtow as soon we gain momentum.

Said and f~~~ing done.

It is nothing new, you can see he uses the same intellectual dishonesty and dismissal of facts as feminists do when arguing with a point view he disagrees.

It has been several videos now that he keeps repeating the mantra: men need women as women need men. What for? He never clarifies, but aparently men need women, because… reasons.

That is the problem with MRA’s, anti-feminists and the “skeptic” lot. They use logic and reason when it suits them, but as soon as you apply the same standards to criticize them, then they go appe s~~~. According to Sargon, it is a men’s fault if we cannot differentiate between a woman that wants us for the money from a woman that wants us. Nevermind that 50% of marriages end up in divorce, and 80% of divorces are initiated by women. Women NEVER lie, and men can read MINDS, right?

That is the same guy that said that men don’t accomplish anything without women.

In a nuttshell: These guys are assholes.

And that is why Western civilization is doomed. Because it was built on LIES. It was build on DEMANDING sacrificies without acknowledging the real price. It was build on a pipe dream that “women are equal to men”, but at the same time “different”. Isn’t that what MRA’s and anti-feminists say? They keep repeating “sexual dimorphism” when arguing with feminists regarding WOMEN’S choices, but when MEN decides to walk away, then we are f~~~ing EQUAL because, again… reasons.

I don’t know what the future has reserved for any of us. Maybe the majority of men will wake up and finally try to live the lives they want instead the ones these people want them to live. Maybe they will go back to the plantation.

All I know is this: I won’t. I TRULLY want an equal, or be left alone. If civilization crumbles, so be it, but I will NOT sacrifice MY LIFE for f~~~ers that don’t have the GUTS to keep their OWN F~~~ING STANDARDS when it comes to reasoning people that use THOSE SAME STANDARDS to criticize them.

F~~~ Sargon, f~~~ Armored Skeptic, f~~~ ShoeOnHead. F~~~ them all.

I’m gone my own way.

Cheers Brothers.

[Anonymous]

Hi Tim, the seeds of MGTOW were planted in me during the early 1970s and blossomed in Jr. high school when a man hater feminist teacher trained her guns on me. She was by all means a c~~~! She introduced me to a new prefix, Mzzzzzzzzzzz! That and seeing all the campers evicted in 1973 from this land, and the endless bad treatment from the town government that made me go hyperspace!
Tim, the law is corrupt as conspiracy rules the land. When an institution of government turns “broken arrow”, such as it did here by self destruction, the only option is to take measures necessary (constitutional equivalent to GO YOUR OWN WAY)

I see the same severity and level of corruption in the federal and state governments as I do here in the forbidden land.

The future for men and marriage is much more grim than it is now as so many of the gynocentric laws haven’t had time to ferment and fester, the ones we do see fermented and festering has caused a stampede of men fleeing women, marriage, and the gauntlet of gynocentric binding laws.

It’s all about the law and personally I’ve seen its f~~~ trickery for a long long time, I’ve been legally alienated from the republic by the binding agreements and deed restrictions on this land (under the law).

We’re a nation of laws that oppress men! It’s just that simple! The corruption has been thrust into overdrive! The only thing missing is the whips and chains!

Turning men into the surfs of gynocentric law has shown to be destructive beyond measure! It always leads to violent revolution or a slow meltdown into extreme poverty and sub human living conditions, like it is here in B.C.F.C., a national monument to a nation of laws now damning men, women, children, family, and even human life! Human existence!

A Massachusetts Corporation est. September 10’th 1968…

Permanently enjoined, lawfully prohibited from operation on January 10th 1974 by FINAL DECREE! (big ass red-pill to swallow)

Placed under Zoning order to CEASE AND DESIST, on July 18th 1997… (more red pills)

Roped off and legally closed on the same day. (does it get any more red?)

The first building lot sold from this destroyed subdivision was in 1965.

51 years of progress and this is all we have to show for it… We’re a nation of laws… Laws that say “f~~~ the men”.

Tim, It’s no different with marriage laws, we’re on the wrong time line, the outlook is horrific! I can see it clearly from the c~~~pit of my time machine!

The law becomes a lethal weapon when it’s molested and perverted by the people entrusted with it.

I see men suffering the same sort of fate involving themselves with modern woman owned and operated by the state! How? All in the name of the law…

The law has become a violation of trust, a manifestation of legally binding destruction, it serves no legitimate purpose, it’s become the definition of reprobate! It’s that f~~~ing bad!

Our Their laws are filthy and corrupt! They had lawyers during the slavery days that could do NOTHING for the lashings and beatings slaves received from their by-law masters! Why? Because like now, they were considered PROPERTY under the law! The law has become an obnoxious and vile beast!

Get married and the state now OWNS your ASS! Men were never intended to become default property of the state. They’ve created a beast, and like any beast there will be a day of slaughter, the day a man marries a woman (all rights slaughtered).

I gotta say it, it just sounds so right, so true;

a man needs marriage like fish needs a bicycle.

[Puffin StuffParticipant]

The world is changing fast and men have to adapt to succeed. Women have turned against men. It is taking men a little while to adjust, first you have to see the trees before you can see the forest. But women have shown that they are the the most self centered species ever bred on the planet. They are eagerly willing to throw their brothers, sons, fathers and, most enjoyably, husbands under the bus.

Who would believe that our own sisters, daughters, mothers and wives would be so eager to plunge in the knife and saddle their men with backbreaking debt we call child-amony, legalized purloining of children and laws that make women into queens and men into second class worker citizens.

But they do and they did.

Now it is our turn to take what we need.

Don’t harm yourself because of the avarice of the feminine of the species. You can do much better ignoring the world than reacting to it. That to me is one of the essences of MGTOW, go your own way and f~~~ everyone else.

But don’t harm yourself. Drinking yourself blackout drunk is damaging your liver, heart and brain. It seems it’s not working anymore.

I think you started at the right place by speaking out. MGTOW is a kind of support center for single men that have gone their own way.

The next step is to read and listen to the guys here who inhabit the same f~~~ed up system that you do and have found ways of coping.

If you continue to feel worse or have any feelings of hurting yourself more than you already have, see a professional.

Depression has a mortality rate.

Depression and suicide:

Depression is the cause of over two-thirds of the 30,000 reported suicides in the U.S. each year. (White House Conference on Mental Health, 1999)

For every two homicides committed in the United States, there are three suicides. The suicide rate for older adults is more than 50% higher than the rate for the nation as a whole. Up to two-thirds of older adult suicides are attributed to untreated or misdiagnosed depression. (American Society on Aging, 1998)

Untreated depression is the number one risk for suicide among youth. Suicide is the third leading cause of death in 15 to 24 year olds and the fourth leading cause of death in 10 to 14 year olds. Young males age 15 to 24 are at highest risk for suicide, with a ratio of males to females at 7:1. (American Association of Suicidology, 1996)

The death rate from suicide (11.3 per 100,000 population) remains higher than the death rate for chronic liver disease, Alzheimer’s, homicide, arteriosclerosis or hypertension. (Deaths: Final Data for 1998, Center for Disease Control)

http://www.dbsalliance.org/site/PageServer?pagename=education_statistics_depression

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[VerityPhantomSpectator]

@maraudrz1 Thanks man, but I think you’re all actually right on this one… I think I just got my hopes up and thought that it was my big break to have a kid of my own. I was planning on altering the contract to state that when I am ready and willing to have a child of my own that one of them would be the surrogate. But that’s just silly now that I think about it. Like you said, the courts always favor women and when I finally did want to have a kid of my own. They would probably just dishonor the agreement.

[RigParticipant]

Welcome!

It’s a wonderful thing to see that you are not alone, isn’t it? There are a lot of men who shun women. And they got good reasons. They are not selfish, not stupid and not ‘rebellious’. They just saw how it is.

Do you have a feeling that the world started to be easier and more open?
I had, once I decided to be MGHOW. Dropping one “life goal” just opened a door to every other things.
You see, I did a lot of things in my life, but many decisions were like “and what I will have a GF in a year from now?”. That was terrible, like an anchor. Now… I’m free. Never been as free. My plans now are aimed at me. At my pleasure. At my happiness.

It’s a freedom of removing a undesirable liability from your check list… Like a finally paid debt… relief.

Cheers!

[Anonymous]

GREAT POST JAN. Your best yet. +10
I can be reached at randy@mgtow.email

Lately I have felt like – what do I do now? The rage at relationships, hypergamy, and duplicity has burned it self out and now it is time to move on but I won’t leave the forums because I can help younger guys thru their crises. All you guys that are feeling the same way; know that somewhere there is a guy that you have helped even if it was just a “Welcome to MGTOW”

What am I doing to improve myself?
2016 – 17 Take a course in motorcycle/ATV repair. Registered for Sept. Not to get a job but for my own self interest. Maybe do a little “backyard mechanics”.
Learn to play the blues harmonica at the lake this summer. Scotch, campfires, and Blues. Peace and harmony for me.

Finally, I wasn’t going to let this out of the bag just yet but I feel there are some guys that are flagging and maybe looking for something to look forward to.
This: In July of 2017, a long time friend and I planning a motorcycle ride down US Route 66 for our 65 birthdays. Yes the Route 66 show of the 50’s and 60’s. We would leave from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada – thru Minneapolis to Chicago (the official starting point of Route 66) thru St. Louis, Oklahoma City, Sante Fe, the Grand Canyon and all the way to the Santa Monica Pier in L.A. From there it is North along the Pacific Coast Highway thru Oregon and Washington, crossing the Canadian border to Vancouver Island and then West across the Rockies to Winnipeg and home. I expect the entire trip will take a few months. My feeling is that I will only turn 65 once and if I don’t do it then I will always regret it as the road not taken.
This is the official invite to any MGHOW to join me for any part or all of the trip. Even just a meet up for beers as I pass thru your town would be fun.
Google Route 66 and check it out. I can be contacted for discussion at the above MGTOW address.

PS. We are riding as the “Sons of Arthritis” motorcycle club. Google that too.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

And when she finally understood that I would never marry her, she went to plan B and showed me “crazy town.”

The Manipulated Man wrote:

They then proceeded to bring me outside to handcuff me and bring me to jail. I was in shock, numb, and unable to speak up for myself.

The Manipulated Man wrote:

No one at work, except me, believes him.

Thank you The Manipulated Man.

I have gone through a long road in understanding sex. This might be a personal interpretation of the thing, so I wanted to get your feedback if you see it like me.

Before marriage I was viewing sex as a natural and wonderfully thing, but nothing special. Obviously I wanted new experiences and had fantasies I wanted to try out.

Right after marriage things changed. There was a baby, the wife gained weight and was “insecure”. So, despite all my reassurements, sex dwindled and I started suffering.

Why the hell was I suffering for something that previously was not that important?

All I knew was that I wanted and could not have, while was accused of being “insensitive” for asking. You all know the script:
– guy stops asking because the denial hurts (why?)
– guy tries to learn the new rules, so that he can create all the necesssary conditions (but rules change or simply do not work)
– guy makes plans to be romantic, buys sex toys, sexy clothing… Anything to make her more interested in sex (she carelessly dismiss the attempts).
– finally guy starts researching the problem…

I found lots of advices, saying that you had to be “helpful”, romantic, sensitive.I even got some vitamins (natural stuff) that where supose to help her… Nothing ever helped.

Then one day I found an online course on being a “quality husband”, and started understanding women and especially myself.
The first and most important distinction is how we perceive sex.

Women are EMOTIONAL beings that need EMOTIONAL stimulation to get physical satisfaction. Men are PHYSICAL beings that need sex to get an emotional satisfaction.

I was overwhelmed with this teaching: men are shamed for ONLY WANTING SEX, but actually search EMOTIONAL FULLFILMENT, while women’s fulfilment IS SEX?

As I looked at my feelings I understood that my pain was not only the frequency of sex, but also the quality; how much my wife wanted to have sex with me. It would not happen if it was only physical.

Absorbing these revolutionary concepts I changed the framming of my value. My validation was no longer external and in the hands of my wife, but in myself. I had to see value in my own actions and build myself to a quality male. Then, according to the theory, my wife would react sexually to me, instead of me reacting to her.

At the end it did not work like this, since my wife did not react as expected. I realized that we did not share core values and she would never value my values over her’s. So I had to replace this women for a more compatible one.

At this point I realized that my pain had been propelling me through this learning process. So, was I supose to learn more? Was I simply avoiding further improvement? The situation was not completely clear.

Then one day it became clear. I was chasing an illusion of fulfillment, doing all these changes in myself for the sake of one instinct. Please note that we can control instinctive behaviour, but cannot NOT HAVE IT. I have been reading in mgtow that even here men’s mind is sex and womem. That is just how we are build.
Women say we are “pigs” for being what we are and have to “learn” to control our instincts.
But they have instincts as well, they are emotional, they behave and dress to attract men. They are certainly proud and defend THEIR NATURE.

So, i realized that there is no real control of an instinct, just repression. It works as a pressure cooker, blowing up eventually. We can sublimate the energy into other things, but there is always a hole and the man is incomplete.

My solution was full understanding of what is behind this. I analized all that excited me and realized why it was exciting. I play detective when womem attract me. I am can see nature’s game.
Women have no power over us except the one we give them.

It is all an inside job, so we just have to know ourselves to beat the game.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Nature is the only way back from this s~~~.

Once the feminist experiment blows up …. whatever is left will be driven by nature.

It’s the planets final solution.

[Charles BSpectator]

@The Skank Spanker

I definitely try to blend in as a blue piller for the most part. And whenever s~~~ like men’s and women’s issues come up, I tend to just ignore it. If they ask me about something, such as marriage, I usually just end up saying s~~~ like “I may or may not end up getting married, but for right now, I just want to focus on my career.” That shuts them up sometimes.

I’m also sure all women can in a sense, sense that you’re MGTOW if you give off a “no f~~~s given vibe.” So I try to act like a mangina as much as possible while I’m still at my parents’ place.

As for IT, I’m currently working towards getting a job in programming. Right now, I’m learning Java so that I can end up writing Android apps. Then when I actually end up finalizing my first few apps, I plan on posting them on Github to show employers my code and experience.

I’ve never thought of growing a beard or anything. I’ll try and start doing that as well. At least that way, it’ll make me seem a little bit older. I’m also starting to work out more and gain more muscle.

And I do have a mountain bike and tend to ride it about 1 hour or so a day. It helps relieve all the stress that’s caused by me living with my parents.

@keymaster

Thanks for that Keymaster. I’ll be looking forward to your advice as well.

@machiavelli

Thanks, I’ll look up the book. Right now, I’m getting plenty of job interviews. It’s just that they never call me back; and if they do, they end up telling me “they need someone with more experience.”

I’ll just be glad once I do finally achieve my goals.

[OracleSummonParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

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What is “send you to see a therapist”? you are adult, no one should tell you what to do. Just get your life on track and move out, no stupid bulls~~~ after that.

That is why I put the word “tries”. Refusing to go is my plan as I cannot be made to go. And moving out is in the future as I just need one final Certification in order to be accepted at the place I wish to work for the career I want. My job is in the STEM field, particularly the computer field.

[narwhalParticipant]

In HS had planned to take this girl out. I was the new guy at school and she actually asked me. Found out from her two best friends that she was only asked me to my her BF (or maybe it was who she was pining for) jealous. She was going to stand me up, and they thought that was pretty lousy..

So, I did I decide I was going to stand her up, then since I was now free Friday night, I asked her two friends if they had plans. Turns out they were both available…had a pretty good time.

The last woman I actually pursued at all stood me up…however, I’ve learned. We agreed, on a Friday, to meet for a Sunday night dinner, but did not set a place or time. I texted her Sunday morning to set the details…no response. I texted ounce or twice more without response, so I never ever left to go anywhere. Finally heard from her late Sunday with an apology, but no explanation. When I asked for one, she got all defensive and starting acting like I was a jerk for asking. I just was looking for some reason to possible reschedule, because other then her great t~~~, I had none at that point. She was likely with some other guy, which wouldn’t have bothered me really.

But yes, in this day and age, I would follow that formula. Agree to the night, but don’t set a place and time till a few hours beforehand. Besides sending the message that she’s not important to plan ahead, she is unlikely to respond to a text if she doesn’t plan on meeting, thus you aren’t going to waste your evening.

Ok. Then do it.

[StargazerParticipant]

Hammerhead wrote:

After that, I only planned events that I could enjoy alone even if the girl/woman didn’t show up.

You learned this a lot earlier than I did. When I was a teenager, you found out you are getting stood up when you got to her place and she told you she couldn’t go. But over time, women started to insist on “meeting there” rather than being picked up at home.

For the longest time, I thought this was about equality and safety (hey, I was raised in Alabama) and it took me quite a number of years to figure out that it wasn’t so she could drive herself and therefore control her own destiny, but rather to give her the freedom to flake without notice or confrontation if she felt like it… and to have her unwillingness to commit be capable of producing maximal social and financial pain to a man.

In the day you’d ask a girl out and in order to accept the offer, she’d have to give you her phone number and address, set a day and time and, if she intended to actually follow through, be reasonably bound to it… otherwise she’d have to say “no” on the spot.

But women don’t want that kind of responsibility so in order to “avoid confrontation”, they can now lie and say they’re in and excited to go and will meet you there, then totally and completely forget all about it two minutes later while you spend a week making reservations and rearranging your schedule and budget to make room for the event. Then you go and tell the hostess that you’re expecting someone and the bartender keeps trying to pour you drinks and pretty soon they figure out you’re just having water and are being stood up.

Then it’s just a matter of how long will you wait before accepting the inevitable while the staff giggles at you from around the corner and you finally give in and either eat an expensive dinner by yourself or bug out and hit the Taco Bell drive through to stuff your face with shame.

Yes, this happened to me more than a few times in my blue pill days.

And the best part is when you confront them the next day about standing you up and they get offended, play the victim card and try to make you feel like an asshole (or crazy) for placing expectations on them…

Eventually you go from butthurt to no longer confronting them the day after to making plans where you won’t look like a fool to just going to places you want to be anyway to not caring if you have a date or not any more. And then they talk about where all the good men have gone… like there is something wrong with us.

Congrats on saving yourself a decade or two of buols~~~, I wish I had figured that out when I was 20 rather than 40, but “nice guy” habits die hard.

Woman’s magazines and newspapers have entire sections dedicated to astrology. Astrology is the study of the movements and relative positions of celestial bodies interpreted as having an influence on human affairs and the natural world. To sum of the beliefs of astrology basically they believe that the position of the planets and the stars have an effect on their destiny, (Such as their marriage, their personality, their character, and their future) It is not a logical belief and has been debunked in the scientific community.
http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/astrology-and-horoscopes-debunked/

Not only women are into astrology but they also consult more fortune tellers then men. It is noted that astrology is fortune telling but there is a wider world of the magical beliefs then just simply astrology, (Tarot card reading, palm reading, parrot astrology, the cystal ball, and hydromancy). These are also beliefs more women subsribe to compared to men. These are not found in science nor are they proven to be true or accurate.

So not just with the fortune telling but women are more religious then men. With women making up a majority of the church attendance in america. With 69% of women compared to 31% of men. Religion is magical thinking because they believe that god made them so special that he sent his own kin to be tortured for YOU because he loved YOU so much. Those women who do go to church leave out the unkind parts of the bible (God killing everyone but noah and his family, god commands the hebrews to kill everyone of the opposing tribe including the animals, and gods promise to eternally punish everyone who does not believe).
http://www.gotquestions.org/men-in-the-church.html

And the final part is the one saying the men are more devoted to religion then women. Men are more likely to be hold off sex till marriage, They are more likely to give up meats on friday for lent. And they are more likely to devote their lives to their god.

So why are women more magical thinkers then men? is it due to being unable to accept death? Or is it more of a way of thought? i was in a hurry too finish this one.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Anonymous]

We aim to serve all of our Brothers.

To paraphrase Side Car: Why would a decent woman need to go online? I know there’s like 4 of them on the planet but still.

#4 is going to be the final nail in the online coffin for all to see. I may lose my POF account but don’t care. I’m swinging for the fence.

I also paid POF for this foray so I’m investing in helping other MGTOWs. I learned 18 years ago online was bulls~~~. I just game it now. The goal for #4 will be to entice a Gold Digger and then stand her up on the date. I’ll even get a burner phone number for her.

I could have bought another Fleshlight sleeve with the money wasted on POF.

[AFTParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

But you’re not hearing about that in the media, are you?

Hard to find

http://www.mediaite.com/online/why-did-kidnapping-girls-but-not-burning-boys-alive-wake-media-up-to-boko-haram/

Quote – “Some of the students were gunned down as they attempted to flee. Others had their throats slit. In some buildings, Boko Haram militants locked the doors and set the building alight. The occupants were burned alive.

All of the victims were boys. Reports indicated that the young girls the militants encountered were spared.” _ end Quote

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/colinfreeman/100270947/dont-forget-that-boko-haram-targets-boys-as-well-as-girls/

Quote – “So why is it, then, that it is the girls’ suffering, rather than the boys’, that is finally bringing Boko Haram’s mayhem to world attention? Plenty of media-analysis stuff has already been written on this, and I don’t have much more to add.
But one of the reasons is this: the girls are still alive, while the boys are all dead”

Ohh, simple explanation, another explanation could be GYNOCENTRISM.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan