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Feminists are being confronted with the harsh reality of biology.
Did I note a small hint of surrender in this article? Especially, the part where she advocates that sex-ed should include education about ‘respect’?
Some solid redpills in the comments section.
But those shiny summer nails couldn’t mask a breaking heart. Because as my friend held my newborn, a few kilometres away the man she loved was holding his. Babies, he’d told her throughout their decade-long relationship, were not part of his life plan.
Yet here he was, 18 months later, a father.
How many women relinquish their child-rearing years to men who say they don’t want children only to find their beloved has knocked up someone else months after the relationship is over?
Actor Guy Pearce got me thinking about it this week.
There are enough babies in the world, he said.
I’m not consistent enough to be a parent, he said. It’s really hard work having kids, he said.
But five months after he announced he and his wife of 18 years had amicably split, he’s confirmed he’s expecting a baby with Game of Thrones actress Carice van Houten.
I’m not having a crack at Pearce. Private lives are just that and by all accounts Pearce’s ex felt just as ambivalent about having kids.
But for the rest of us, as careers have become our life’s focus and relationships have grown more transactional I’m seeing more and more women living lives carved out by circumstance not choice.
Women need to ask themselves if they want children. First at high school, then in their early 20s, then every two years thereafter.
If the answer is consistently “yes”, they need to plan for it as determinedly as they might a promotion or a financial goal.
Just as they’ll leave a job if it’s in the best interest of their professional aspirations, so they must leave relationships if they’re inhibiting their personal ones.
Men, too, must take responsibility. If you don’t want children yet she does, then be a grown up and let her go.
You can change your mind in later years and sprog ’til you’re 80, but if you squander her biological window through arrogance or false promises then you’re a selfish jerk.
Stealing a woman’s child- bearing potential when you have no intention of having a child is morally reprehensible and can have as profound an effect on her future wellbeing as violence or sexual assault.
Being honest about your fatherly intentions is as vital as telling someone you have HIV.
Yet transparency and integrity are no longer central elements in the brittle world of sexting, Tinder and porn. Schools, flailing between birds and bees biology and government-mandated tolerance of gender fluidity, are failing to teach our kids the values at the heart of all relationships: respect, honesty, care. Of course, this also has to be learnt at home — that life is not just what we do with our bodies and brains, it’s what we do with our hearts.
As sex infiltrates our kids’ lives ever earlier through technology and pop culture, and their self-worth is predicated on how they look not what they think, it’s imperative we teach them that relationships are the building blocks of life. If we’re going to pour in sex advice, careers advice, bullying advice and how to pass exams advice, then we also need to nourish them with love advice.
Research out this week highlights the gulf in what kids are being taught and what they want to know. The focus is still on function rather than feeling, according to the research by Deakin University.
“Students are telling us they want learning to extend beyond how to put a condom on a banana,” Dr Debbie Ollis says. “They want to know more about how to handle the emotional side of relationships — respect, love, starting a relationship, breaking up, sexual pleasure, and a host of other topics.”
Parents, too, need to guide. They need to play old love songs and talk about their romantic lives and be bold enough to say that porn is not real sex. They need to counter the shallow, saccharine, hyper-groomed dating on The Bachelor with old photographs of camping trips with their boyfriends, love letters and memories of kisses under waterfalls. Finally, they need to tell their children about the moment they were born, how precious it was, and that one of the most important decisions they’ll ever make is whether they want that for themselves.
As more men wake up, there are going to be a lot more unhappy females out there.
Any man who donates sperm is a traitor to his gender.
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I read that she wants girls to learn to shackle men before giving up the milk. It’s an old argument.
It’s interesting that she thinks government indoctrination centers, schools, should teach about “love”. “Love” is femspeak for hatred of men for something about love women don’t get before giving up the milk.
It’s gotten pretty rotten in today’s government indoctrination centers for children.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
To me it sounds like another woman blaming men for all her problems. Women are free to walk away when the guy doesn’t want a kid, she is willingly and consciously wasting her own time if she does want a kid.
Sure she says respect should be taught, but do you really think she meant respect towards men?
Sounds like he doesn’t want to have kids… WITH YOU.
Maybe he realizes that a relationship with you is like having a f~~~ing kid already and he doesn’t want to raise TWO f~~~ing kids.
Maybe he realizes having kids is your way to secure all his f~~~ing resources FOR LIFE and you just flat out aren’t worth it.
Maybe you’re blaming YOUR fickle fragile little f~~~ing mind on him after you’ve told him for a decade “you don’t want kids either” (but now suddenly do).
Maybe he can tell you aren’t solid in your convictions in any way, and having a kid with you is like building a sand castle at low tide.
F~~~ off you f~~~ing c~~~ with your “telling a woman you don’t want kids is as bad as verbal or physical abuse” bulls~~~.
Spoiler alert, EVERY DUDE will tell a whore he doesn’t want kids.
"Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves" -BBR
Men, too, must take responsibility. If you don’t want children yet she does, then be a grown up and let her go.
HAHA, I wish I could just have sex with a girl and then tell her to leave, but she won’t leave! She wants more, you see we men know how to take responsibilities, but apparent that’s foreign concept for you ladies. And what’s the point of taking responsibility for a bitch whom herself doesn’t even care about her wellbeing?
Stealing a woman’s child- bearing potential when you have no intention of having a child is morally reprehensible and can have as profound an effect on her future wellbeing as violence or sexual assault.
OHHH, I SEE, what else can have as profound an effect on her future wellbeing, not buying her that GUCCI bag she always wanted? not buying her 500 pairs of shoes? not buying 1000 new dresses which she never wear? If women stop spreading their legs for bad boys, we won’t have this problem.
Being honest about your fatherly intentions is as vital as telling someone you have HIV.
F~~~ I think I just tore my left ball… Just a thought, if you could tell women to be more honest up front that will be great. If a man doesn’t say I want to fertilize you now, then it means he doesn’t want to have a child. But you ladies love surprising us with your little “oh i forgot to take pills” accidents…
Finally, they need to tell their children about the moment they were born, how precious it was, and that one of the most important decisions they’ll ever make is whether they want that for themselves.
Ye, I can imagine how you father told you the story. Angela: the moment your mum burst you out of her vagina covered with blood and moist while yelling “get the f~~~ out of me” was so beautiful, I was there right next to your mum, and I cried, because BIATCH bit my arm like a ferocious monkey, unfortunately she pushed a bit too hard, and you landed on the floor… head first. You were one of your mum’s many accidents, unfortunately I didn’t have the b~~~~ to say no, so there you are, a strong independent woman, who’s going to repeat her mum’s footsteps.
To me it sounds like another woman blaming men for all her problems. Women are free to walk away when the guy doesn’t want a kid, she is willingly and consciously wasting her own time if she does want a kid.
Sure she says respect should be taught, but do you really think she meant respect towards men?
Certainly agree.
But the fact that this is published in mainstream media shows that they are losing it. Why whinge if everything is going so well?
Stealing a woman’s child- bearing potential when you have no intention of having a child is morally reprehensible and can have as profound an effect on her future wellbeing as violence or sexual assault.
The choice not to impregnate a woman, is never morally reprehensible nor is it wrong in any and every situation. This argument is null and void on every level and to compare sexual assault to this is disgusting.
The fact that I share a country with Angela Mollard disgusts me.A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
I read that she wants girls to learn to shackle men before giving up the milk. It’s an old argument.
It’s interesting that she thinks government indoctrination centers, schools, should teach about “love”. “Love” is femspeak for hatred of men for something about love women don’t get before giving up the milk.
It’s gotten pretty rotten in today’s government indoctrination centers for children.
This is the entire rationale (albeit reworded) for the paternalistic shackles phallocentric males imposed upon females all through the ages.
When the “shackles” came off, that was a signature of a civilization in decline.
Yes, she should demand a marriage under the old laws from back when divorce was near impossible. No, her feminist “sisters” have diddled her out of that. And, as an extra bonus, her sisters have encouraged her to believe giving the milk was better for her than demanding full payment, in perpetuity, for the milk cow.
A milk drinker, in these post-feminist days, can drink his fill with certain knowledge that a superannuated dried up cow will be replaced with another milk full-producer without his even knowing it. He, and all the old cows, have modern feminism to thank for this.
He’s bound to be lots happier than an old cow destined for the slaughter house (assuming he even thinks about it), while the young cows and calves are laughing. After all didn’t the old cow laugh at her elders back in the days when she was tender veal and they were tough old flank steaks?
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Maybe he just didn’t want to have children with her.
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Yet today’s young women are too stupid to understand why previous generations of women didn’t put out so easily outside of wedlock, why they married younger, and why they had kids well before they thought oh s~~~, I better have kids real f~~~ing soon or I won’t be able to.
You can change your mind in later years and sprog ’til you’re 80, but if you squander her biological window through arrogance or false promises then you’re a selfish jerk.
Stealing a woman’s child- bearing potential when you have no intention of having a child is morally reprehensible and can have as profound an effect on her future wellbeing as violence or sexual assault.
I love her reasoning:
Men cannot be doubtful and confused about the thought of fatherhood: men are superior beings without uncertainties, fears and thoughts.
So if a man drags out on becoming a father he is not uncertain, confused, doubtful – he is a selfish arrogant jerk.
Women, on the other hand, are weak, confused, full of doubts.
Men are awesome superior creatures, women are confused delicate flowers – she said exactly so.
That’s why men have no right to be doubtful, afraid, confused: if men are so, then it’s “VIOLENCE OR SEXUAL ASSAULT”!!!Any man who donates sperm is a traitor to his gender.
That’s awesome, and it’s going in my signature… 🙂
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My comment on that whiny article…
The woman has a choice when she hears the man say “I don’t want children” Leave or stay. Don’t stay and think “my love will change his mind”. Leave and find a man who does want to have children with you. This is what all the reproductive freedom you fought for was all about. Taking control. You can’t legally demand a man provide you with a child (Yet) he didn’t want with you. Writing about it and whining here accomplishes nothing. The simple fact is that when a man says “I don’t want a child” he is actually saying “I don’t want a child with you.” Understand it and move on.
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This whole article is basically her saying:
Waaahhhhh! I want to have my cake and eat it too and men won’t give it to me! Waaahhhhhh!
What this selfish, entitled bitch doesn’t understand is that every man today knows HE CAN’T HAVE CHILDREN! They are never his children. They are her children. They are the state’s children. They are never his.
All he gets is the bill.
So to all you female lurkers, because you can’t seem to figure this out on your own, when a man doesn’t want to have children with you, laydeez, it’s not because he doesn’t want children. It’s because he doesn’t want to risk being on the hook to you for 216 monthly payments.
That’s not selfishness or dishonesty. It’s common sense. And it has nothing to do with who he is, but everything to do with who you are. You are a bad risk. Deal with it.
They wanted to be strong, independent women.
So now they can f~~~ off and bitch and cry all they want, im not going back to the plantation.
Why would any mgtow want to have kids with a c~~~?
Even men that arent mgtow, the purple pill kind of guy, realizes that women and kids are just to expensive.
Feminism and gynocentrism f~~~ed up humanity.
Men are going agains their biological imperative of having sex with women.And women are going against their biological imperative of having children.
And, as allways, its men fault, not the feminists fault.
Great.How often when I told a woman “No kids / No ring / No way”, just to have her jump to shaming, guilt trips, crappy pop-psychology and high pressure sales tactics ? Which, BTW, is very quickly followed by dumping her.
If men are open from the beginning, they are shamed and pressured.
If men “keep their cards close”, they are “Stealing a woman’s child- bearing potential”.
BS !
Young men who say they don’t want to get married and have children are told to “man up”, are called “Peter Pan” and treated like garbage. The problem is not young men thinking before acting, it is people who can’t handle the damn truth !
No man can “steal” your “child-bearing potential”. If a man doesn’t want kids, just move on to another one instead of trying to change him.
How ironic, when some women chose to steal a man’s income potential by spermjacking or “forgetting” to take the pill in order to get pregnant and “make him stay”.
How many women squandered their “child-bearing potential” by wasting time trying to “changing him” or having fun with Chad & Co. instead of looking for a good potential partner ?
No Babies
No Ring
No Way !Don’t like it, there is the door. Quit wasting my time and your eggs. I’ve not had nearly as many women leave me over “baby rabies” as I have dumped women over it.
Frank V.
respect works both ways. speaking of being morally reprehensible and a destructive force regarding a person’s future wellbeing- i was upfront from day one with my ex about NEVER wanting children. only seven more years of child support to go…
and by the way, adoption is a viable alternative, unless you think that your genes are just way too fantastic to deny the world. so f~~~ you and your biological clock.
Anonymous12But for the rest of us, as careers have become our life’s focus and relationships have grown more transactional I’m seeing more and more women living lives carved out by circumstance not choice.
Welcome to equality, any man will tell you that you can have this or that, but seldom both. Make a decision.
Stealing a woman’s child- bearing potential when you have no intention of having a child is morally reprehensible and can have as profound an effect on her future wellbeing as violence or sexual assault.
I get it, so this now becomes a new form of domestic violence punishable by jail time or the woman being able to sue.
Good luck darling, your fellow woman is quite happy to dance naked on tables for us and spread her legs for money in brothels, we don’t need to worry if the other half of womanhood close their legs until marriage.
Don’t like it, there is the door. Quit wasting my time and your eggs. I’ve not had nearly as many women leave me over “baby rabies” as I have dumped women over it.
Why would they leave you over it? Unless you’ve already got snipped all it means is they have to poke a hole in a condom or lie about the pill and you are equally responsible whether you willingly and knowingly impregnated her or she had to lie and deceive you to get her pregnant.
Its always a smart move to leave if the baby rabies hits and you aren’t shooting blanks.
It seems to me that the question of ” Do you want children?” from a woman is a disguise for the question ” Do you want to pay child support for the next 18 years and possibly not be allowed in the child’s life?”.
Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.
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