A solution to gynocentric society

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

Hey guys i found this two videos on youtube from turd flinging monkey and they explain a lot about goverments, human nature and female nature.
And it proposes a solution that seems reasonable.
End marriage, friend with benefits, women pay for 50% of the househould, no divorce.

It seems a good ideia but society has to colapse before women here man’s reasoning.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Perhaps. A better solution is for men to just walk away.

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[StargazerParticipant 12505]

We can no more change female nature than we can change our own. Even the total collapse of society won’t change anything. Were that to happen, women would go back to being wholly dependent on men for provision and protection and they’d be begrudgingly subservient for a while, but eventually men would repair the damage and re-establish comfort and stability and women would go right back to hypergamy.

Do you honestly think there was ever a time in human history when we were not gynocentric? TFM himself makes the point… women have always been protected and defended because their eggs and wombs are simply too important.

Male dominance and female hypergamy are simply coded into our very nature. To change that nature you’d have to change what we are (through genetic engineering or some sort of bio-technical synthesis a-la the Kurzweil Singularity) and then we aren’t even human any more and none of this matters.

Society is what it is because men and women are what we are. So you either close your eyes and run, skip, crawl and stagger through the mine field hoping to make it across in one piece, or you pull out every tool, technique, skill and ability you have and attempt to carefully cross that field hoping you’re good enough to make it, or you just turn to the side and avoid it entirely.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Stargazer wrote:

We can no more change female nature than we can change our own. Even the total collapse of society won’t change anything.

Actually, the collapse of civilization will change women in that there will be no mechanisms to enable and reward women for bringing out their worst personality traits to the forefront.

[RhettParticipant 637]

I propose we build a wall! A big beautiful wall! Of course us men will have to build it but the women can finance it. We’ll put all the women on one side and us good men will stay on the other.

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Manginas will still be there, enabling. Small government will not fix this.

Small government is not a collapse. A small government has a working system. A collapse is no system at all. And even a mangina will think for himself when his stomach is empty.

[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

Who the f~~~ gives a s~~~ in trying to change gynocentric societies? The way I see it, all societies have been gynocentric whether they be tradconish or liberal in nature. The best thing for me is just to avoid all the bulls~~~ and go my own way.

I don’t give a s~~~ about society or what it does. I just want to be left out of it as much as possible.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

As stardusk said, we’re not repairmen.
Case closed.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

InfernalShadow wrote:

Who the f~~~ gives a s~~~ in trying to change gynocentric societies? The way I see it, all societies have been gynocentric whether they be tradconish or liberal in nature. The best thing for me is just to avoid all the bulls~~~ and go my own way.

I believe the core issue is we men are expected to do all the work but women get all the rewards. Society cannot function that way. As presently seen with western society slowly collapsing due to men either checking out of the bad deal they found themselves in, or burning out with no strength left to work.

[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

@faust For Science

Oh, I know that. And I know even some MGTOWs here will like a change in the political scenery that favors them instead of women. However, I know that’ll never happen because women are seen as the more valuable people because they can get pregnant and men can’t.

Which is why I just ghost it and try to avoid it altogether.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Perhaps. A better solution is for men to just walk away.

Absolutely. And make popcorn when society inevitably collapses without them.

Stargazer wrote:

Were that to happen, women would go back to being wholly dependent on men for provision and protection and they’d be begrudgingly subservient for a while,

Who needs subservient? I’d settle for a little goddamn appreciation from them, but they can’t even do that. At least not when their bellies are full. So keep them hungry.

Women only value men for what they hope men will do for them, not for anything men have already done.

Manginas will still be there, enabling.

Not for long. In a SHTF scenario, mangina chumphood is not a survival trait.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

it all boils down to privilege.
women have all these priviliges over men, so they will never listen.
And unfortunately society will collapse as a result.

mgtow is the only rational solution to men today.
when every alternative is bad, just dont play the game.

what makes me deeply sad is seeing the centuries men spend building western civilization and a century of feminism is enought to destroy it.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Not to sound dismissive here, but this time, men can take a break from taking it upon themselves to find a “solution”.

Best thing for it, really.

You have to wonder why men always feel compelled to fix everything – even when it was broken by someone else. Men will even do this in a person relationship. Woman starts pouting, and what does a man do? He asks her “what’s wrong?” – like her problem is HIS to fix.

No.

Who wants another beer? This round’s on me.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

InfernalShadow wrote:

Oh, I know that. And I know even some MGTOWs here will like a change in the political scenery that favors them instead of women. However, I know that’ll never happen because women are seen as the more valuable people because they can get pregnant and men can’t.

That is a vastly oversimplification of the issue.

But then, we are dealing with simple minds that cannot think behind their immediate surrounding. It is not just women getting pregnant. But, which women get pregnant and how their children turn out.

These are the type of people that think foreign mothers, welfare whores, or those whom are both, popping out six children that whom end up as criminals, whom are a drag on the resources of society is better than one law abiding man helping to keep the whole system running.

Back in 1993, when I first saw the movie “Demolition Man”, like most people, I thought the film showed a politically correct 1984 tyrannical world.

Now, 23 years later, I realize the world in that movie was not about tyranny, but about reigning in the insanity. I can imagine how that society was formed, and why. No sex. No kissing. Complete control of when a woman gets pregnant. It is a response to reigning in feminism, and the insane situation of the wrong women getting pregnant and breeding criminals. All without turning one gender into the slave class of the other gender.

[Anonymous 3]

It would be one thing if I hated women and society. But that burned out a long time ago. Hate can still be turned to passion and action.

When hate burns out and you’re left with apathy, it’s pretty much over. It’s all but impossible to come back from that. So in that regard, women should be massively panicking that MGTOW exists, but at the same time it’s already much too late to do anything about it.

MGTOW aren’t going to fix society. If we still cared we wouldn’t be MGTOW in the first place. This isn’t a strike, MGTOW isn’t a ploy to get women interested in us.

We didn’t just leave the table, we left the building, sold our house, sold our car, moved out into the country on the lakeside, bought a fishing boat and are now out fishing. And now women are demanding we come back to the city and trudge into the dreary building in an oppressive room to, what exactly, listen to them make demands?

We’re gone, we’re not in that business anymore. That’s why you have to measure your own bargaining power and not p~~~ off your business partners. Women made the game personal, like they always do, and looked at it as a competition where they had to destroy the opponent, rather than work at a partnership for mutual benefit.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Keymaster wrote:

Not to sound dismissive here, but this time, men can take a break from taking it upon themselves to find a “solution”.

Ah, but this time walking away and not giving any f~~~s as it all falls down IS the solution.

MGTOW is saving the whole world one man at a time.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I’d say the bet solution is to walk away and not play the game. It’s like tug of war between men and women, there’s no game if one side decides to walk away and not give a f~~~. The end result? Men are off getting some beer and women are all knocked flat on their asses. And the best part? Women are the ones who did it. They did it to themselves.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

@faust For Science

It may be an oversimplification, but it’s true if you think about it. The only thing complicating the issue now a days is the rise of feminism because of women’s hypergamey. That, and I truly think women envy men and wish to be them. But, they can’t, so they throw tantrums and cause drama because of this.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

InfernalShadow wrote:

It may be an oversimplification, but it’s true if you think about it.

If it was true, than women would not be the slave class of some societies.

[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

@faust For Science

I doubt women are ever the slave class in any society.

In either case, I still don’t give a s~~~ because I don’t plan on finding a solution to a gynocentric society. I just plan on living my life the way I want without having to worry about women in the first place.

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