A solution to gynocentric society

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

InfernalShadow wrote:

I doubt women are ever the slave class in any society.

Women are a slave class in several muslim nations, and african nations. Slavery does exist in this world.

[Anonymous 3]

Faust For Science wrote:

InfernalShadow wrote:

I doubt women are ever the slave class in any society.

Women are a slave class in several muslim nations, and african nations. Slavery does exist in this world.

lol sure they are.

Just like they were a slave class in the US and are now victims of a patriarchy and rape culture, right?

Don’t be so naive.

Women have never been a “slave” class in any culture in world history. Maybe some women were slaves, but then they had male slaves right next to them who had it worse than them.

[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

Faust For Science wrote:

InfernalShadow wrote:

I doubt women are ever the slave class in any society.

Women are a slave class in several muslim nations, and african nations. Slavery does exist in this world.

Slavery may exist in this world, but men are seen as the slaves in every case. Even in Muslim and African countries, women are far more protected than men are. Men are expected to fend for themselves because we’re stronger and smarter than women. Which is why women are more “babied” than men in societies.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Faust For Science wrote:

If it was true, than women would not be the slave class of some societies.

In those societies men are the “shot in the back of the head and dumped into a pit they were just forced to dig” class. Not that anyone seems to give a f~~~ about that. No, it’s always all about the poor “oppressed” women.

Would those “oppressed” women in those societies rather be a corpse than a “slave”? I doubt it. So gynocentrism is still the order of the day there.

Remember all that brouhaha about those kidnapped Nigerian school girls? Remember how nobody bothered to ask what happened to their male classmates? Remember how nobody was doing #bringbackourboys hastags? That’s because nobody gave a f~~~ about them, and you can’t bring back the dead even if they cared.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

sidecar wrote:

Remember all that brouhaha about those kidnapped Nigerian school girls? Remember how nobody bothered to ask what happened to their male classmates?

Wow, I never even thought of it, are you telling us that there were boys KILLED and no f~~~s given about it in the media?
I find that absolutely incredible in the most reprehensible and disgusting way.
I am finding that red pill hard to digest, not saying you’re wrong, just saying that was a cold harsh eye opener, that I’m finding hard to accept.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

AFT wrote:

Wow, I never even thought of it, are you telling us that there were boys KILLED and no f~~~s given about it in the media?

Have you seen any f~~~s about it in the media? I haven’t.

Boko Haram literally means “western education is sinful”. Their agenda and modus operendi is specifically attacking schools. When they attack a school for girls, they kidnap the female students and force them to convert to islam and get married. When they attack a school for boys they shoot all the male students and burn to death any survivors. But you’re not hearing about that in the media, are you? At most you might hear “a school was targeted by terrorists” or some such dismissive reporting.

Where are all the #stopkillingourboys hashtags?

[AFTParticipant 2722]

sidecar wrote:

But you’re not hearing about that in the media, are you?

Hard to find

http://www.mediaite.com/online/why-did-kidnapping-girls-but-not-burning-boys-alive-wake-media-up-to-boko-haram/

Quote – “Some of the students were gunned down as they attempted to flee. Others had their throats slit. In some buildings, Boko Haram militants locked the doors and set the building alight. The occupants were burned alive.

All of the victims were boys. Reports indicated that the young girls the militants encountered were spared.” _ end Quote

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/colinfreeman/100270947/dont-forget-that-boko-haram-targets-boys-as-well-as-girls/

Quote – “So why is it, then, that it is the girls’ suffering, rather than the boys’, that is finally bringing Boko Haram’s mayhem to world attention? Plenty of media-analysis stuff has already been written on this, and I don’t have much more to add.
But one of the reasons is this: the girls are still alive, while the boys are all dead”

Ohh, simple explanation, another explanation could be GYNOCENTRISM.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Anonymous 42]

Western media outlets are not news, their propaganda, through and through. I’ve looked into the slaughter of Christians in the middle east and I sign petitions almost weekly, I don’t like to bring my findings here, as they are truly disturbing, we’re living in the times of Kow Tau cowards…

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

sidecar wrote:

Would those “oppressed” women in those societies rather be a corpse than a “slave”? I doubt it. So gynocentrism is still the order of the day there.

You are using example of the congo. I was thinking South Africa, and North Africa, and parts of the middle east. Where women are treated as cattle.

Given what has gone on in Africa. We could post examples all day to support both our points of view.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Not my problem to fix.If you make your bed ,lay down in it.
Now do what ever you want to do.Walk around naked with a hotdog sticking out of your pussy if you want.I don’t care.

The only solution is for men to stop playing the game and walk away.
As long as men continue to play the game everyone looses.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Anonymous 3]

Faust For Science wrote:

sidecar wrote:

Would those “oppressed” women in those societies rather be a corpse than a “slave”? I doubt it. So gynocentrism is still the order of the day there.

You are using example of the congo. I was thinking South Africa, and North Africa, and parts of the middle east. Where women are treated as cattle.

Given what has gone on in Africa. We could post examples all day to support both our points of view.

How would you know how they’re treated? Have you ever been there?

They used to pretend women were treated badly in India and Japan, before the internet started blowing the lid off that particular bulls~~~. If you look carefully, you can see the stories for the Middle East, South America and Africa as well.

If you believe the MSM on how things are in other countries you haven’t learned anything. And I sincerely doubt you have any other source.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

AFT wrote:

Hard to find

Your google-fu is better than mine. I could barely find anything mentioning the slaughter of boys, and nothing about the hypocritical treatment by the media.

Faust For Science wrote:

You are using example of the congo. I was thinking South Africa, and North Africa, and parts of the middle east. Where women are treated as cattle.

I have examples from those places too. In fact that picture I posted was from the middle east.

Given what has gone on in Africa. We could post examples all day to support both our points of view.

Wrong. Every single society on the planet that treats women “badly” treats men worse. You will not find an exception to that. Don’t try to use any apex fallacy examples to counter that, either, because I’m telling you up front they aren’t valid.

[NewgroundsParticipant 558]

I like the premise he proposes in the video I just wish there was a detailed outline on possible ways to attain it besides shocking people into it, Maybe all of this is just the tip of the iceberg. I feel like we are scratching at the surface on something that can truly be the deciding factor on if our species will last long enough to colonize the galaxy and beyond. It’s interesting to think about but it seems like it can be something someone can become obsessed with and almost futile in a way since I don’t see anyone in the mainstream seeing these sorts of problems in great numbers in my lifetime, I hope I’m wrong but for now It’s time to go my own way

|Right Wing Death Squad| Swallowed both Red Pills /pol/MGTOW

[HitmanParticipant]

Not our problem.
Not fixing it.
SAVE YOURSELF!

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Faust For Science wrote:

Actually, the collapse of civilization will change women in that there will be no mechanisms to enable and reward women for bringing out their worst personality traits to the forefront.

Until comfort and safety are rested by men and then women will go right back to expressing their base nature. No, there is no golden age of soft patriarchy to go back to. It’s either “accept women for what they are and do with them and yourself what you will” or “do away with the need for sexual dimorphism entirely”. Those are the only paths forward.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Faust For Science wrote:

I was thinking South Africa, and North Africa, and parts of the middle east. Where women are treated as cattle.

I can’t speak to the specifics of life in these countries but I will say that “treated like cattle” sounds a lot worse than it really is. Cattle are treated remarkably well, all things considered, because they are valuable assets.

You may have meant to say “chattel” which means personal property… and if you understand property law, you’ll understand that personal, moveable property depreciates rather significantly over time and is limited to a far greater degree than real property (i.e. land).

I don’t know about how you live, but in my world, being a piece of my property is quite a privilege. My cars are kept clean and in good working order, my furniture treated with care and respect, my appliances serviced and well maintained, my effects looked after, stored properly and utilized with consideration… yeah, being my chattel is a pretty groovy position because I honor and protect the things that make possible the quality of life I want to live.

A woman in this situation would do quite well… a hell of a lot better than she would living with her s~~~ty, abusive parents in a crap town in the middle of nowhere suffering from stress and anxiety, abusing alcohol and drugs so she can maintain her gig stripping for cash to pay for cosmetology school in the hopes of some day making enough money to move to her own place in the ghetto.

Economic independence and social freedom for her would be as cruel and wasteful as dropping my leather sofa out in the middle of a freeway and expecting it to thrive on its own. Both are MUCH better off being under my careful supervision and curation.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Stargazer wrote:

Cattle are treated remarkably well, all things considered, because they are valuable assets.

Lets look at the cattle analogy a little closer while we’re at it.

Even female cattle are treated better than males. The females are kept safe and healthy for as long as possible, bred regularly, and only required to produce milk and calves in return, which is something they would already be doing naturally, though without the benefit of modern veterinary medicine. Domestication is a vast improvement to their lives.

The vast, vast, overwhelming majority of male cattle are castrated and slaughtered for meat. Many are used for veal, so they don’t even get a chance to grow up.

So even with cattle, gynocentrism is the order of the day.

[Anonymous 0]

InfernalShadow wrote:

Who the f~~~ gives a s~~~ in trying to change gynocentric societies? The way I see it, all societies have been gynocentric whether they be tradconish or liberal in nature. The best thing for me is just to avoid all the bulls~~~ and go my own way.

I don’t give a s~~~ about society or what it does. I just want to be left out of it as much as possible.

You and I feel the same. Leave me out of it. I do not want to be a part of society if i can help it.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I like the friends with benefits option. As far as trying to reason with women, like TurdFlingingMonkey said, it’s useless. You can reason with NAWALTs like GirlWritesWhat, but their numbers are too small to affect any sort of societal change. If our society is going to hell, I think the best thing to do is to buy some land a remote location, build a bomb shelter, dig a well, and stock up on freeze dried food. Meanwhile, we can work, educate ourselves, stay healthy, save our money for retirement (the money that would’ve been spent on a wife and kids), and live well.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

FunInTheSun wrote:

I like the friends with benefits option.

I see that as a redundant statement. A friend with benefits is just a friend. I can see how a friend with detriments might be a thing, but I don’t see the point of it. If there aren’t any benefits, only detriments, why be friends?

NAWALTs like GirlWritesWhat

She’s only marginally NAWALT because she sees just how completely screwed her sons are in this society. Without them she’d likely be just another AWALT. That being said, she does serve a useful purpose by speaking truths that would never be heard were they said by a man.

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