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[Mr. SpockParticipant]

Number 6, 9 and 13 were the ones that I am guilty of caving to. 13 was the one when I was probably the biggest mangina on the face of the planet. I look back on that now and feel embarrassed. Why should I worry about people thinking I am a bad guy? Only HER family and friends probably thought that and the only one I was married to was her. Who cares what the other knuckleheads thought? Obviously at the time, I did. Number 9 was a big one for me to get over. I filed for divorce in 2008 but I was already thinking about it as early as 2002. At the time, I didn’t want to give up the equity we had in the house and the money in the bank and retirement accounts. Dumb move on my part because I wound up losing even more when I finally took the red pill and saw clearer. By staying, we were merely accumulating more wealth and assets that she would ultimately get. In 2008 the retirement accounts were worth more and the house was paid off. By waiting so long, I simply made HER a richer person.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[UntamedParticipant]

Cursedgenie wrote:

As we in australia over the last week have had a few high profiled domestic violence cases against women here, (dont get me wrong i think domestic violence on either side of the fence is flat out wrong). The governement has taken it upon itself to rush together a bill for protection of domestic violence victims.But as our government has always rushed things and not actually thought of the double edge sword the will be imposing on people rights, mainly males in general are about to take a huge hit to what may be some mens last avenuer.
let me quote tony abbott and why more males are about to cop the brunt of what will be an unfair and unjust law
Any man who attacks a woman is “weak and gutless”.
That’s the message Tony Abbott wants heard in every Australian home.
The prime minister is preparing to announce later this week further efforts to stem a wave of domestic violence across the country.
“Violence against women and children is never, ever acceptable,” he told reporters in Perth on Sunday.
“Any man who raises his hand to a woman is weak and gutless. If you hit a woman, you’re not a man.”
So what about the female that physically and mentally abuses a man, where is his protection is he just meant to man up and take it, yes i think these deaths again these individuals is uncalled and unjust, but what about the other side of the coin how far did he get pushed before he snapped, where was their help when they needed it(councilling or just someone to talk to, how long had it been going on, before it finally became all to much.), if i need help as a man there isn’t really many places i can turn to. but just googling a place for a female i can find a place to help me out with no hassle at all.
And what about the abuse this system will cop from females holding a gun to a males head figuratively speaking, if he tries to leave she could just threaten him with going to that cops. even though the law hasn’t been drafted yet, i can see it heavily favouring women cause of the upcoming election abbott will want favour and this will give him a huge boost from the female voters and the blue pillers that follow.
i could be calling the sky is falling but i see this is a knee jerk reaction to a big condition that is only treating the symptons and not the cause, we are going to impose all these laws, but what about educating females and males about domestic violence and take it out of the taboo cnr and finally deal with the condition. but that would require thinking about planning and actually having to admit that males are the drones anymore, that we wont just take it, we are starting to push back. Sometimes the right way, and sometimes the wrong way but men are starting to realise it is time to wake up.

I guess we’ll be welcoming more mgtowers from Australia in the next months and years. That’s the good part.
This move by Abbott doesn’t surprise me. Most western-styled governments are rotten with feminism from the inside.
The War on Men is heating up. Expect more insane laws being passed.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

As we in australia over the last week have had a few high profiled domestic violence cases against women here, (dont get me wrong i think domestic violence on either side of the fence is flat out wrong). The governement has taken it upon itself to rush together a bill for protection of domestic violence victims.
But as our government has always rushed things and not actually thought of the double edge sword the will be imposing on people rights, mainly males in general are about to take a huge hit to what may be some mens last avenuer.

let me quote tony abbott and why more males are about to cop the brunt of what will be an unfair and unjust law

Any man who attacks a woman is “weak and gutless”.

That’s the message Tony Abbott wants heard in every Australian home.

The prime minister is preparing to announce later this week further efforts to stem a wave of domestic violence across the country.

“Violence against women and children is never, ever acceptable,” he told reporters in Perth on Sunday.

“Any man who raises his hand to a woman is weak and gutless. If you hit a woman, you’re not a man.”

So what about the female that physically and mentally abuses a man, where is his protection is he just meant to man up and take it, yes i think these deaths again these individuals is uncalled and unjust, but what about the other side of the coin how far did he get pushed before he snapped, where was their help when they needed it(councilling or just someone to talk to, how long had it been going on, before it finally became all to much.), if i need help as a man there isn’t really many places i can turn to. but just googling a place for a female i can find a place to help me out with no hassle at all.

And what about the abuse this system will cop from females holding a gun to a males head figuratively speaking, if he tries to leave she could just threaten him with going to that cops. even though the law hasn’t been drafted yet, i can see it heavily favouring women cause of the upcoming election abbott will want favour and this will give him a huge boost from the female voters and the blue pillers that follow.

i could be calling the sky is falling but i see this is a knee jerk reaction to a big condition that is only treating the symptons and not the cause, we are going to impose all these laws, but what about educating females and males about domestic violence and take it out of the taboo cnr and finally deal with the condition. but that would require thinking about planning and actually having to admit that males are the drones anymore, that we wont just take it, we are starting to push back. Sometimes the right way, and sometimes the wrong way but men are starting to realise it is time to wake up.

I was having a conversation with a couple of unlikely gentlemen this morning… a bearded, Guy-Fawkes-mask-carrying member of “anonymous” who bore a striking resemblance to the dude from the movie 300 and a grizzled Native American with feet so beat and blackened that he needed offer no further credentials to have his point of view taken seriously.

The three of us watched in silence as a beautiful, porcelain skinned redhead who was clearly tripping b~~~~ on shrooms repeatedly rejected the offers of a “love bombing” young woman of African descent to drive the redhead’s car home for her so that she could get home safely. They did eventually leave together, accompanied by a second car of the black girl’s friends but with the tripping girl behind the wheel and the other girl hanging on nervously in the passenger seat.

We all looked at each other, all thinking the same thing,.. and Mr. Anonymous finally articulated it: “Why do women make such stupid decisions over and over again like that?” We tossed the idea around a bit and I presented this insight which I felt I would like to share with you,

Females witness men making decisions and taking action every day but what they do not see is the thought, preparation, planning, training and anticipation of possible failures and fallbacks that we put in before taking action because, traditionally, we do not do these things in their presence. So when they attempt to model masculine behaviors, as they are more and more prone to do these days, they make their decisions and take their actions but in the absence of said preparation. Instead, they do so on the basis of their feelings, desires and opportunities of the moment,.. which they must, perforce, believe that *we do as well*. And then they find themselves f~~~ed… a day late, a dollar short, out of time, out of gas and with nothing to fall back on except for US.

And so we step in, as we always have, and draw on our experience and skills honed over long years of having to exercise authority and take responsibility, in order to save their asses from whatever disasters they have created for themselves.

I’ve found myself in just such a situation with the last four females I have encountered. One who did drugs she could not handle while boating and could have drowned or been left behind, another who got blackout drunk and put herself in a position where she could have been raped, a third who wandered off into the desert to be alone, leaving behind her children and less capable friends for others to take responsibility for and this one I speak of now who spent her entire evening chasing feels with no consideration of who she was with, what she was doing or how she was going to make it out the other end.

At some point, females must begin to realize that we do not simply choose and act based on whim, but that there is an entire process behind our choices and actions that drive them and give them a chance for success. They can either learn by watching us, or by failing on their own the way we did, I think you can guess which path I believe this process will take,.. only I doubt that most females are truly resilient enough to stand and fall and stand again on their own feet without the safety net that we provide to them invisibly, unrecognized and for free,

Brothers, it is time for us to stop doing that. If females are ever to be afforded the rights, privileges and responsibilities of adults, we have to stop treating them like helpless children.

[ToadParticipant]

I knew watching this would p~~~ me off. Anyone seen it?

I saw it. back in the 2010 and i remember me blind of angry because, same as the lie about feminism, i understand that the ruin of most part of my family members had been planned…
now that today after years of suffering, horror, depression and believing that there won’t be light at the final of the tunnel, i am in peace for now… crisis is like feminine nature… a lie , and even now that i’m in peace i know that there is always risk of falling again in their traps…
“i touch wood”…like we said in my country for avoid bad luck…

[sidecarParticipant]

The whole “you’re going to die alone” from women is just more projection of their own fears onto men. Be it fears or faults, women project a lot. They are so narcissistic they cannot conceive that other people are not like them.

: You’re going to die alone.
: Don’t be ridiculous. I have plans. Dying alone is something you should be worried about, honey. Statistically speaking, you’ll stroke out at 80 in your lonely one bedroom apartment and lie there on the floor for a few days unable to move until you finally die of dehydration. Do you think your cats will wait until you’re completely dead before they start to eat you?

[Soldier-MedicParticipant]

Mad Dog & Glory. Loved that movie. I heard once (rumor?) that in preproduction, Murray and Deniro wanted to swap roles because they had done the role of gangster or the what ever you would call Deniro’s role.

I enjoyed The Watchmen. The character of Rorschach was the linchpin for the entire movie. Men and women with extraordinary abilities and he is the only one that has not compromised his principles. This was a lonely character. The lone anti heroes from movies such as High Planes Drifter, but with the ability to articulate. The efforts that he makes to take down bad guys isn’t rooted in protecting society so as it is in destroying evil. He is a megalomaniac, with elevated sense of self that would have not purpose if every criminal got locked up tomorrow. If not for one minor bit of humility, when he had the courage to apologize to his friend, Rorschach would be almost ill redeemable as a person. This character illustrates that being standing by your principles with no compromise will often leave you alone.

Rorschach’s journal, October 12th 1985. Dog carcass in alley this morning, tire tread on burst stomach. This city’s afraid of me. I’ve seen its true face. The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood. And when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up around their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout “Save us!”… and I’ll whisper “No.” Now the whole world stands on the brink staring down into bloody hell. All those liberals, and intellectuals, and smooth-talkers; and all of a sudden no one can think of anything to say. Beneath me, this awful city, it screams like an abattoir full of retarded children. And the night reeks of fornication and bad consciences.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[RhapsodysparadoxParticipant]

RoyDal wrote:

I have heard of slander and libel. Disrespectful is a new one on me, as far as democracies go. Say or write something disrespectful about a dictator, and off to jail you go — that is a given. So has the Western World finally turned into a collection of police states? Well, yes. Yes, it has.
I am just old enough to remember what freedom was, and I miss it.

My experience with police states is that the “authorities” literally get away with anything they want, and nobody stands up to them for fear of disappearing into a concentration camp. for that to happen in Canada/United States there would be a civil war to crush the people who would rise up against it. What we do have here in our two countries is a gang of wannabe dictators who fantasize about turning our two countries into outright tyrannies, but they keep getting roadblocked and opposed. Sure cops get caught planting evidence on so called “suspects”…… You know what happens in China? The person who “caught” the cops f~~~ing disappears if he/she says a word about it.

No whats going on is these f~~~tards keep tryin to smack someone in an isolated incident in the face with a rape dildo, just to see if the rest of us will get used to the idea. It may be a s~~~ty situation to be in; but its a far cry from the free-reign gang raping that goes on in some countries.

This particular rant inspired by AncientWisdom. Sorry dude, but it’s all your fault.

A lot of us have had tragic childhoods. I won’t dwell on it much, but I feel that some explanation on my beginnings will help move the story along. My father was a physically, emotionally, and verbally abusive man. I honestly believe that he had some sort of mental disorder. Perhaps an Antisocial Personality Disorder or perhaps a Boderline Personality disorder. My oldest sister, whom my father had sexually abused, had left when I was very young. I do remember that she could be more than a little bit of a bitch in her own right. This left me with a brother and the youngest sister, seven and 3 years older respectively. The bitch of it was that my sister had inherited whatever twisted mental architecture my father had. When my sister was having a bad day, she would walk in to the room I shared with my brother and start pulling my hair. I was not allowed to defend myself nor was I allowed to retaliate, because my brother said, “You don’t hit girls”. The issue got sorted out when I finally tired of the abuse, despite my brothers warnings of a beating if I hurt her. In essence I beat the hell out of her while my brother was desperately trying to peel me off of her. Then I got my ass royally kicked by my brother.

Days later my brother decided to have one of those man-to-man talks about how things are going to be from now on. I interrupted him and told him that it’s going to be my kicking my sister’s ass on a regular basis if she doesn’t learn to keep her hands off of me. He started to say something else, and I interrupted him and told him that his opinion doesn’t matter. He isn’t the one getting beaten up by his bitch sister and has a f~~~ed up brother telling him he can’t defend himself. Also, seeing as he is much older than I am, does he think his threats are going to change my attitude? He would be leaving soon, and I would have free reign to defend myself. What is more, our father couldn’t stand her, so if it came down to it, who is he going to want to believe when she finds her nose broken, and she goes crying to one of our parents? I guess he had a talk with her, because her violence disappeared.

Fast forward to the point that I am a young man, you would be able to understand that I consciously didn’t judge women based upon both of my sister’s behavior. All of our upbringing was in some of the most disturbing of circumstances, and it’s bound to mentally twist at least one person. So NAWALT. Fast forward to my mid-twenties as a soldier. A lot of soldiers are some of the lowest fore headed people that you may meet as well as being terribly misogynistic. Or at least I perceived them as being brutish women haters. The bitch of it was that hearing men complain about their wives actually reinforced by blue pill period. I came to the belief that these men were miserable in their marriages because they were such assholes, and I made a promise to myself that if or when I get married I wasn’t going to be like them.

Fast forward to 2007, I am 39 years old and have stopped questioning my own needs and actions and have quietly started to watch my ex-wife’s behavior. This is where a real rant or long dissertation about her bulls~~~ would ensue, but, well, f~~~. You guys have heard just about everything from every other guy that has introduced himself here.

AncientWisdom said in one of his threads, I would like to open a chapter where men share their pivotal point of realization that women aren’t: “Sweet, spice, and all things nice”.

So here is my answer, when I was 39 years old. After I had been all over the world, had three sons, had multiple relationships, and multiple combat tours, it was my wife that finally taught me that women are the most narcissistic, vile, and morally reprehensible creatures to walk the planet. Stephen King has never written anything as horrific as the inner working of a woman’s mind.

So I am going to have to apologize. If ever you were one of the men that I heard complaining about his wife, I was probably the guy on the fringes thinking you were some sort of asshole. I am really sorry that I thought those things about you. I am even sorrier that I didn’t listen to you.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[PhantomParticipant]

Your words hit home for me in many ways. I have been thinking about your post for a few hrs now.
I have raised my daughter who is 17 1/2, but my 4 yr old son is an entirely different matter.

Was with the last woman I was ever with. It’s a long as story that I share in some detail in my intro.
In short, never seen him and she doesn’t want me to. He turned 4 yrs old last month.

marriage=misery wrote:

She is a manipulative, deceitful, conniving, pretentious, lazy aspiring “real housewives” Without belaboring the point, she is every woman a man should never marry. After some accelerated aging and many threats of divorce, I decided to finally follow through. Now that I filed, she has revealed sides of her that make me nauseous. I’m glad I stuck to my guns this time, but the thought of not seeing my son everyday brings me to tears. I’ve never wept so much in my life.

Without any hard proof/evidence of abuse/neglect from her towards your son, it doesn’t look pretty on the courts awarding you custody. Unless that is something you can work out with her, either out of court, or through mediation or arbitration through the court. Been a while here, since I went through that hellish nightmare.

marriage=misery wrote:

The facts relevant to the question I have are: I am a good father (she has said this to her counselor) and she is not a terrible mother. Have any of you had any experience winning primary residence with their child in a scenario where egregious behavior like abuse, etc was not involved? I have a diary documenting many of the precipitating events leading to our divorce and through the process and while anyone with cerebral blood flow would agree she is a terrible partner, I can only prove that she is not a great mother, not that she is a terrible mother. Hope that makes sense.

Without any hard evidence, primary custody is gonna be damn near next to impossible. Especially if she has $.$ in her eyes for Alimony AND Child Support. You could spend tons of $ on lawyers and fight it out and still lose.

With everything you have said about her, you are in no man’s land here. I don’t know how vindictive, or anything else she is willing to be over this. I can assure you from experience with my divorce, I was blindsided by just how vindictive my 2nd XW was. I thought I had a pretty good idea of her BS based on my 8 yrs with her prior to the divorce. Damn, was I wrong.

I can not encourage you enough to tread lightly and have a plan. Recording devices, cameras, discussing this in public places, are some great ideas others have mentioned.

I hope it goes better for you than it did for myself bro. It’s stormy waters you are in for sure.
I am not a lawyer nor am I giving legal advice here….just my 2 bits for what’s it’s worth.

Cheers & Jolly Good Luck man

[PhantomParticipant]

Hey bro, you remind me of my perils when I decided to take the deep plunge regarding my second marriage. I could sit here and parrot you on everything I went through, but seeing you already have that covered, there is really no need.

That being said, I would like to translate what I read based on my own experience, in regards to yours…

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

Finances, her attitude, s~~~ testing, her desire for kids, my feeling she hates her job and kids are her plan B, all of it

This is really plan A, make no mistake. Her agenda is to get it implemented asap at any & all costs. It is just a matter of time. Having you rope tied & providing resources by way of CS and/or alimony is the jackpot she is wanting to secure and cash in on.

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

Next 2 weeks were very good, sex on tap like a faucet was opened, even got a great BJ for the first time in like 2 months. She wasn’t s~~~ testing me, and was actually starting to follow through on promises and listening to me. Suckered me right back in.

She markets herself and the sex she gave for 2 weeks to be more than adequate in getting you to give her what she wants. The whole 2 weeks was a s~~~ test. Again, I am basing it on my round 2.

What I am saying is this. I basically went through this same gambit and my 2nd xw used this tactic. The lure of sex on tap, and I thought that I had won and got my way, and the sex on tap as well as me being in charge of the relationship from then on was no longer an issue.

I was up til the moment I signed the marriage license.

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

I told her she sounded p~~~ed off, she claimed the next day she was “only kidding”.

This, this and more of this!!!

Forget red flags here, NO, really… Nuclear launch detected, detonation & obliteration imminent. I see she has pulled out the sucker punch with the “only kidding” ploy.

Make no mistake, this IS the BIG ONE.

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

Make your partner feel s~~~ty then say you’re only kidding – hilarious right?

This is NOT the question here you should be FOCUSED on. It still puts your point of view through her eyes and stand point.
You would better serve yourself by looking at how she is manipulating you.

Do you believe that if and/or after she gets her way, that this tactic will be a dead issue? That she will never use it again to get the next thing she wants from you? Say, like a baby or two?

I wanted the peace and relationship so bad, I fell for the sucker punch, and finally got married for the second time….hoping that the girl I had once seen & “fell in love” with, would resurface.

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

God f~~~ing forbid I don’t put you first every f~~~ing day

This became my mantra, and I wasted 8 yrs of my life going through untolds amounts of hell & bulls~~~.
If you don’t make her first on everything she wants every day, the BS will escalate & continue, and (at least for me) you will never hear the end of it.

She would always act like she forgot stuff I would say, but it never ceased to amaze me, on how she could recall times I did not put her first, even if it was 7-8 yr old news.

I am really not kidding at all on all this stuff, but what’s really the kicker is this. That sex on tap thing, that she is using as leverage now, will make the desert look like an ocean after she gets her agenda set in motion.

I went months not getting sex, let alone intimacy or having my xw make love to me.

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

We strive for that companionship, and affection. When I wasn’t in a relationship, I wanted to be in a relationship.

I gave her all she wanted, and caved….and still didn’t have the companionship, affection, and relationship….or even SEX.

A few days ago, I finally got fed up enough with my leaking bath tub faucet to see what I could do to fix it. I was kind of intimidated by the prospect because I was afraid that I would have to tear the tile out of the wall to deal with the problem. I looked up stuff on the internet until I found a YouTube video that demonstrated just how easy it was to do. Turns out all I had to do was turn off the water main to the house and disassemble the shower valve under the handle. All I had to replace was the “cartridge”. I actually took me more time to go to Home Depot and buy the part than it did to take it apart and put it back together. All in all, a fairly easy task to do.

Some of us here aren’t the most mechanically inclined. Some of us are better at mathematics, etc. My brother is one of those guys. He can do calculus equations in his head, but don’t even try to talk to him about the inner workings of a pickle jar. But, my brother is exceptionally intelligent. He would be at least classified as at least brilliant, but he couldn’t operate a hammer to save his life. Me, I remodeled the guest bathroom. I took the entire thing down to the studs and concrete foundation, and built a shower stall from scratch and finished the outside with glass block.

Where did I lean to do all of this? Books and the internet.

My favorite hobby has always been woodworking. When I was married I would read books and practice techniques. If I read something or saw a video once or twice I could almost always do it on the first try. I once built a corner plant stand using design and construction techniques from an article I had finished reading. It took me about two days (six hours total) to finish the project. The weird thing was that my ex-wife would ask me how I learned to do things like that, I would respond by telling her I read a book or article. He response was this strange mixture of confusion, and the same odd disbelief you would associate with someone that wanted to cry “Witch Craft!”

I’m pretty sure that I was more intelligent than her. I would say at least one standard deviation to the right (more). She knew this, but she would still quasi freak out when I was able to do something by just reading about it. This was before YouTube.

Have any of you guys experienced this?

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Gratus84Participant]

Qcummer wrote:

now go read “The Predatory Female” and then you are on your way to seeing more clearly than ever before….

Well, I started it last night and just finished it now. I have been struggling with a cold my roommate brought home. The last part of the book around page 150 was very hilarious. Translating what a woman says and what it really means. It might be posted on here somewhere but I’ll share some snippets with you guys I reflected on in my past dealings in my brief 31 years on this planet.

I WANT YOU TO MEET MY FAMILY.
She doesn’t want you to meet her family, she
wants them to meet you to evaluate your
financial prospects.

When I finally met my previous ex’s family four years ago when I was a roofing contractor she bragged to them at dinner to tell them how I made 20,000$ one month.

YOU ARE GOING TO END UP A
LONELY OLD MAN.
You have refused to allow her to con you into
the matrimonial hustle and she resents you for
it.

January of 2013 I was in a short relationship with a real predatory type, not like boomerang, much more ruthless. I was fed up with her bulls~~~ when she came over one day and met my mom who was visiting at the time, and tattled on me, vouching information to her (eating fast food, playing video games). This created an argument when I called her out on that and expressed my disapproval and she was “just being honest and not going to lie”. Of course she will lie whenever it suits her agenda. I told her to just leave and went to the other room to lift weights and ignore her. She followed me in and started calling me a jerk and an asshole and I reiterated my position. She said I would never land a girlfriend and be alone if I didn’t act like a gentlemen. My response (although four weeks later she reduced me to a skeleton of a human being), I told her I don’t need a woman I am happy alone. Let me be a gentlemen and SHOW YOU TO THE DOOR! Blah blah blah you’re mean… BYE! I AM BEING A GENTLEMEN YOU NEED TO LEAVE.

That night I got a message on Facebook from her that was similar to:

WE NEED TO HAVE A TALK.
You haven’t been as obedient as her roommate’s
boyfriend and it’s becoming socially
embarrassing for her.

So that we didn’t have little fights like this. Yeah ok. Whatever.

YOU’RE NOT THE PERSON YOU WERE
WHEN WE MET.
The Walt Disney ending to your affair that
she and her pedestrian friends expected did
not materialize. Moreover, you’ve stopped
grinning stupidly while she makes long distance
calls from your phone.

I’M LOOKING FOR A STABLE,
MATURE, KIND, RESPONSIBLE MAN
WHO IS FINANCIALLY SECURE,
CONSIDERATE OF MY NEEDS, GIVES
ME MY OWN SPACE, AND SHARES MY
INTERESTS.
Another self-centered predatory female,
totally lacking in originality, who gets her
lines from the “personal” ads in the local
singles rag. This is a girl who demands her
support payments on time and will expect you
to be cheerful about it.

Every woman’s online dating profile ^

I’M NOT THAT KIND OF GIRL.
Pure donkey dung. An hour ago she was at
the gynecologist’s office letting a perfect
stranger finger f~~~ her in the name of
modern medicine.

Anytime someone tells you what they are NOT, you can bet they are lying.

WHAT DO YOU DO?
Probably the most common question posed
by the predatory female in a social setting. A
quickie audit of your financial potential.

I’ve started an experiment with lying and playing the cat and mouse game. Snake charming is fun. I am surprisingly a little less cynical.

CAN’T WE DO SOMETHING ALONE
FOR A CHANGE?
You aren’t accessible enough when protected
by friends and loved ones

ARE YOU MARRIED?
Are you the only one spending your money?

ARE YOU DIVORCED?
If you fell once, you could fall again.
Predators are always attracted to the vulnerable

There are others… One take away from reading both “The Manipulated Man” and “The Predatory Female” is the concept of the social chameleon. I will make a post in the online dating section from an encounter from today that I am currently playing out as an experiment.

Finally an article that says it like it is:

http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com.au/2014/12/porn-is-better-than-average-woman.html

just as Keymaster says “is the juice worth the squeeze?”

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

I was reading Managing Oneself by Peter Drucker and I stumbled across this section of that excellent book that applies to us.

WHAT SHOULD I CONTRIBUTE?

Throughout history, the great majority of people never had to ask the question, What should I contribute? They were told what to contribute, and their tasks were dictated either by the work itself—as it was for the peasant or artisan—or by a master or a mistress—as it was for domestic servants. And until very recently, it was taken for granted that most people were subordinates who did as they were told. Even in the 1950s and 1960s, the new knowledge workers (the so called organization men) looked to their company’s personnel department to plan their careers.

Then in the late 1960s, no one wanted to be told what to do any longer. Young men and women began to ask, What do I want to do? And what they heard was that the way to contribute was to “do your own thing.” But this solution was as wrong as the organization men’s had been. Very few of the people who believed that doing one’s own thing would lead to contribution, self-fulfillment, and success achieved any of the three.

But still, there is no return to the old answer of doing what you are told or assigned to do. Knowledge workers in particular have to learn to ask a question that has not been asked before: What should my contribution be? To answer it, they must address three distinct elements: What does the situation require? Given my strengths, my way of performing, and my values, how can I make the greatest contribution to what needs to be done? And finally, What results have to be achieved to make a difference?

This is the solution to the implied question of Men Going Their Own Way. Yes, we decide for ourselves where we are going, but to get there is the problem. Most people will never achieve their self-defined goals. I think it’s important that we do.

Anyway, check out the book. It’s like 60 pages long and worth the hour or two it takes to read.

[StargazerParticipant]

I have to throw my hat in here and agree with most of what’s been said so far.

The fact that you’re living together means you can’t just cut her off,.. leaving the house you share would give her incredible power over you and your stuff and most females in that situation will turn vengeful and use everything they have to take you down and make you pay for rejecting them and, in their mind, causing them to have wasted all the time and effort they put into pinning you down.

So yeah, go with KeyMaster.’s plan of turning yourself into a sniveling, pussy whipped, clingy loser. The only thing I would add is that you need some kind of turning point to make the change in your behavior believable… like maybe watch some chick flick about a guy who loses his dad or suffers some abuse or some kind of bulls~~~ and then act sullen and withdrawn for a couple of days after then come out with the new persona after a long heart to heart talk about how deeply that movie effected you and made you think about how important real love is in a relationship blah blah.

Connecting it to some traumatic experience (real or made up) that you had will give you cover for not wanting to have sex for a while… it just hurts too much to do that after these feelings have come back to you blah blah… then the “loss” of your job can be covered by your sudden change in life priorities and the challenges you’ve been facing coming to terms with your new, more emotional self.

All of it dovetails into the final move where you tell her you really need her to stand by you through this and that, while it may take a long time and she may have to carry you financially until you get back on your feet, you really need her and love her and money, working hard and wasting your time on material goods just doesn’t really matter to you any more now that you realize how important your feelings are.

Give her the “win” of dumping you and you’ll never have to worry about her again.

[Gratus84Participant]

Your body’s ability to repair itself will largely depend on a number of things.

Muscle catabolism does not happen if there is a surplus of building materials available.. The 25 g protein absorbed per meal is a myth, a lot of it stays in the small intestine, I could find the research article if you’d like but if there’s one thing I’d want to be OCD it would just have to be making sure that every workout I have proof that what I’m doing is working.

The stronger and bigger you get, the longer you will need to take to recover from training sessions ALL THINGS EQUAL. You can not change the fundamental laws of physics and nature, some processes in the body take longer to adapt to.

I have asked the same question as you and thought on this subject for the later part of my twenties. There is only so much food we can shove into our bodies based on the individuals motivation and what’s reasonable for that person. I’m sure you’ve heard of “There’s no such thing as over-training, only under-eating and under-sleeping.” Well I used to think that, but when you start getting into heavier weights you have to factor in changes in bone density, ligaments, tendons, even changes in the heart.

New vasculature, increased blood volume, the nervous system creating more synaptic connections.. The harder you are able to tax your body the more damage you do to it, the longer and more demanding your recovery dictates on the system. Like the mother lifting the car over from her kid or what not. Or when you hear about some meth or crackhead having superhuman strength. I don’t believe there is a one size fits all.

The bigger the injury the longer the recovery. If you keep training and tearing something that is not fully built up, you never allow the “scar” tissue or new muscle to be built. You have to repair the tear first, then add on to it, and that was what I kept thinking about that made the most sense. It’s in a sense kind of a “waste” of food in that you never really did use it to build new muscle… just repair something again that you never let fully recovered.

To address this I have spent a good amount of time working on a solution and template in google sheets where I can assess things based on performance, comparing apples to apples.

I always have a workout where I perform more total work. Period. Volume must ALWAYS increase. But that’s not enough, every main exercise must be increasing in weight, or the average training max/training weight is constantly on the rise. I use a moving average of 4 workouts to tell where I really am, and typically when I am lifting a same exercise like bench press it’s once every 8 to 9 days.

Keep in mind that if you are training other parts of your body that’s going to increase the recovery time of other muscle groups.

The most successful training and the way I currently do now is very simple.

Having had my fair share of nagging minor aches and injuries I’ve come to this conclusion and am conservative on my numbers, especially when I came back from my broken leg. It helps when you have a path and a log and it makes sense to you. The numbers speak for themselves. The iron never lies to you. I never have a bad workout when I train this way. The ONE time I started to plateau or even feel run down, I pushed the workout a day back, and I smashed the previous days records.

It’s a take away from Minimalist Training, but it’s fantastic for people that don’t want to live in the gym, and it works, and personally I feel it is sustainable long term and that’s why I am so enthusiastic about it. I don’t have to watch something to get pumped up or get motivated. I know exactly what I am doing every time I go in and have an awesome workout because I’ml rested and stronger. I focus on a few things per muscle group, and I stick with them. I would rather be 10% under trained, uninjured, and rested than even just 1% over-trained.

Your protein intake is going to vary. You can build muscle on a high-fat keto diet, but it’s not optimal in my opinion if you lack the discipline to control your carbs. I’ve never seen a keto lifter dead-lifting 800 pounds or benching 500. I even considered veganism with that german strong man, but he is frankly just has too much fat on him for me to consider that an option. I personally would like to see either of those cases happen with a ripped and strong lifter, but I haven’t found one that wasn’t more than 190 pounds soaking wet at 5’11”.

A targeted Keto diet with fast carbs timed around your training sessions is good, but a Cyclical Keto diet with carb refeeds is the best for both musclular development and low bodyfat.. although it’s even harder to have the self-restraint for that. It would be like smoking a pack of cigarettes one day then going through withdrawals then doing it all over again. Manipulating your carbs however is hands down the most efficient way to get that look.

I’m all for slow and steady with training. I typically pyramid up on the competition lifts or whatever it is that’s the focus for me, that will normally be along the lines of 10 sets (including warm ups) but this varies from group to group.

Spreading your muscle groups out over a 8 to 12 day rotation has it’s advantages, but it’s not practical for competing year round unless you plan ahead for it. The anxiousness you are talking about I know what you mean. Having something to do everyday alleviates that, as does having a proven method. Hell you could even just lift once a month and go all out and you could make progress and not change anything else. Four days rest sounds perfect to me if you are going hard.

I’ve done the maxing out on squat everyday, and higher frequency lifts. It’s the same principal but my issue with that is the joint pain and micro-trauma that accumulates. The ebb and flow of the weights you will be able to handle goes up and down, but like I said before, so long as the total work being done is increasing over time, you know what you are doing works. It’s just such a damn time sink.

Fundamentally it’s no big deal to push things another day back if life isn’t presenting itself the best opportunity or you have something else that needs your attention and can’t make it to the gym that day. Took me a long time to finally accept that and it’s better in the long run than training your dick into the dirt.

Find whatever works for you that makes sense and is something you can stick with.

Yeah that guy was Dr. Manhattan in watchmen. Very cool!

Hey boys, about 80%+ out of a really toxic relationship with this woman who ended up having a million red flags that sent me spiraling into this crazy depression; but I have a few final hang ups that are still getting me.

1:She worked as a flight nurse and I was OBSESSED with her job for a long time – due mainly to her and my interest in helicopters and rescue. She CONSTANTLY bragged how ‘she saved this guy, that guy’ etc etc, but the reality was in my mind all I could think about was her flying around the state/mountains going to these cool calls, landing and ‘saving the day’. I have some serious envy, that she gets to live and see this great state from the air, meanwhile I’m grinding in an office.

2: She was ultimately married/lived with guy – she never told me until I figure it out near end and was major reason I left, but it p~~~es me off she KNEW what was up, and can go back to her happy little life and I was left emotionally wrecked, she goes back to being the big flight nurse saving the day and Im the boy left behind.

3. If I was ‘stronger’ I could have kept my heart out of this and f~~~ed her endlessly for a while (I rarely think of this, as the marriage thing could bring some real pain if the husband found out.)
3a: I considered myself moral and I have a bit of an identify crisis that I was involved in an affair, wtf happened to me?!

4: The thought I ‘owe’ her an explanation why I dropped her so hard and never looked back, this was a woman we said ‘love you’ to each other.

5. Her crimes were essentially: lie by omission (husband/lived with him) and constant putdowns of me /brags of her yet I try to excuse it as ‘she never meant to hurt me’ major stockholm syndrome I know. That I ‘loved’ her so I shouldnt hold hate, that I should try to be friends, etc.

Anyway any help to annihilate these last vestiges of this bitch would help huge, thanks!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@oruixo13

OK listen to me now, man. With everything you are, Im gonna share this with you because I was in EXACTLY the same situation.

She was exactly 23. I was 35. I was sick and f~~~ing tired of her baby s~~~. Exactly as you said.

The thing is that I don’t know why but she has managed to absorb my complete life. She requires my complete attention at all times when we are home and gets very emotional when I say I would like to have more time on my own. Starts to cry and all the drama starts.

One night she’s laying in bed facing away from me, and we have a talk about this, and I suggest she moves out, “finds herself”, gets a job (she had a job but something more siginificant), get her own place, be her own woman. Stand on her own. Encouraging independence in her. She is sobbing like crazy because she thought I was dumping her. I wasn’t. I was trying to give myself some f~~~ing room to breathe!!

I caved.

I let it run it’s course. I did my best and gave it a shot – for better or for worse (without the contract). I put up with all kinds of s~~~ I normally wouldn’t – just to be able to say I did my best and I was there through anything. When I reflect back on what I SHOULD have done, I go right back to that moment when she was crying facing away from me. I should have stuck to it and pushed her out the f~~~ing door. It all went downhill from there. And let me tell you “what a GREAT advantage a man can have over a woman, if he only knew what cold and calculating thoughts are going through her mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears”. – The Manipulated Man.

When I read that quote in that book many years later, I fell back in my chair and looked at the ceiling like a universe had just opened up for me.

DONT do what I did and allow it to go in for 3 more years.

She made the final year MISERABLE and was complaining and crying every other day.. For a YEAR. I remember finishing work, and on the way home thinking I have to work another shift now. That’s what it was like. Going to MY OWN HOME to work another f~~~ing job.

Also she is a true drama queen and I fear that she will destroy my belongings or harm me.

Here’s how i got rid of this one. Same kind of profile. Drama princess.

“FEIGN BETA”. Make yourself as repulsive to her as possible. Make that vagina as dry as the Sahara. Tell her how much you love her, how beautiful she is, “i love you so much”, you can’t live without her, and s~~~ like “she’s the reason you breathe”. All that disgusting s~~~ women hate. One random day, tell her you lost your job and you have no money. She will plan her departure by the end of the week, and if you do it right, she will be slurping on another dick cum Friday. Then go to work the next day same as usual, but make like you’re LOOKING for work. Be creative. You know her better than anyone. Whatever it takes to make the breakup HER idea. Be bad in bed. CRY where she can see it. S~~~ like that.

Make her sick of your sniveling beta s~~~. It works.
She won’t destroy your s~~~ if she’s grossed out by you and dumps you.

So how did it all end? Well after the break up, I saw her once.
You know what she said? “You didn’t allow me to be myself”.

lol!! Go straight to hell you f~~~ing bitch.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

I read that article yesterday on the :”free the nipple” campaign and checked out the first picture. Once I looked past the rolls of hog fattt, there were 3 women parading with signs held WAY above their heads: “GO TOPLESS!!!”. The one in the middle was wearing a shirt.

Thanks sir. It was the first thing I saw too KeyMaster. A bit like running one of the famous three-legged races at a family picnic, but without two people’s legs tied together. Cheat much? Who knows, maybe she thought that day was “FREE DONUTS” day, but grabbed a sign anyway, because feminism.

Soldier-Medic wrote:

I was half way through the third paragraph before I realized it was a joke.

Escaped Mental Patient wrote:

I had to leave the pictures out, unfortunately. My camera was s~~~ on.

F~~~ing funny.

Gotcha! It was a s~~~ty thing to do, sorry bud.

Untamed wrote:

I just want know if a CNN reporter, her camera man and their van got s~~~ on.
But the article is top notch.

Sorry man, they weren’t available. Something about some other event called “SECRET PRICING: Men Pay Less For Groceries Than Women Do!”

Jon the Ex-Squid wrote:

You’re s~~~ting me! I bet the street sweepers were yelling “Scat! Scat!’. They must’ve been pretty pooped after all that effort. Though I suspect this event might be enough to get the Constipation Parade finally moving.

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Sphincter.

Alas. The Constipation Parade is postponed this year. They showed up on the sidelines to cheer their brethren on, but the Laxative company sponsoring “FREE THE SPHINCTER” accidentally passed out Dulcolax as refreshments, and just went and blew all the plans out their arse.