The Question Every MGTOW Needs To Answer

[MochaParticipant 90]

I was reading Managing Oneself by Peter Drucker and I stumbled across this section of that excellent book that applies to us.

WHAT SHOULD I CONTRIBUTE?

Throughout history, the great majority of people never had to ask the question, What should I contribute? They were told what to contribute, and their tasks were dictated either by the work itself—as it was for the peasant or artisan—or by a master or a mistress—as it was for domestic servants. And until very recently, it was taken for granted that most people were subordinates who did as they were told. Even in the 1950s and 1960s, the new knowledge workers (the so called organization men) looked to their company’s personnel department to plan their careers.

Then in the late 1960s, no one wanted to be told what to do any longer. Young men and women began to ask, What do I want to do? And what they heard was that the way to contribute was to “do your own thing.” But this solution was as wrong as the organization men’s had been. Very few of the people who believed that doing one’s own thing would lead to contribution, self-fulfillment, and success achieved any of the three.

But still, there is no return to the old answer of doing what you are told or assigned to do. Knowledge workers in particular have to learn to ask a question that has not been asked before: What should my contribution be? To answer it, they must address three distinct elements: What does the situation require? Given my strengths, my way of performing, and my values, how can I make the greatest contribution to what needs to be done? And finally, What results have to be achieved to make a difference?

This is the solution to the implied question of Men Going Their Own Way. Yes, we decide for ourselves where we are going, but to get there is the problem. Most people will never achieve their self-defined goals. I think it’s important that we do.

Anyway, check out the book. It’s like 60 pages long and worth the hour or two it takes to read.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I don’t feel like I’ve contributed much to the world. I would like to do some songwriting in the future ’cause I like to listen to a variety of music.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[UntamedParticipant]

I did not chose to go my own way. This mode of survival I’m in was imposed upon me fifteen years ago by the laws, policies, discrimination and norms of this society. They said I did not matter, whether I lived or died. Only thing is, it matters to me.
Based upon my rights as a man, my race and social status as defined by this society, it became clear that my very existence was in jeopardy. So I did what any man with an once of vision would have done.
There is no end goal to this way I’ve chosen, besides living as I see fit and It’s not the destination that imports here, it’s the journey.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Untamed wrote:

I did not chose to go my own way. This mode of survival I’m in was imposed upon me fifteen years ago by the laws, policies, discrimination and norms of this society. They said I did not matter, whether I lived or died. Only thing is, it matters to me.
Based upon my rights as a man, my race and social status as defined by this society, it became clear that my very existence was in jeopardy. So I did what any man with an once of vision would have done.
There is no end goal to this way I’ve chosen, besides living as I see fit and It’s not the destination that imports here, it’s the journey.

Ditto

[OgreParticipant 5863]

There is another question that begs to be asked to answer your question. Who is it that’s determining what you SHOULD be doing? Society, the Government, or women? Since male sovereignty is exactly that, freedom from the requirements of anybody else and fulfillment of our own desires, the author’s perspective is flawed. Only somebody who is plugged in and concerned with what “they” want has to consider beyond “What do I want, and how do I get it?” I can answer your specific question with the expectations of me. I was expected to get a job that paid me as much as I made for the previous 20 years, I was expected to pay huge amounts of taxes to support “the system”, and I was expected after many years of marriage to just take what was offered as what I got. I work a ghost job, you wouldn’t ever know I was there and I’ll never make a good deal of money at it. I do this to avoid paying Uncle Sugar Daddy any more than the bare minimum until I can fully disengage and leave all of society behind to live 100 miles away from the nearest place with a population over 3,000 people. Let the people who take from society partake in the needs of the society instead of just reaping the bounty, me I’m just doing enough to make the waves from my disconnection dissipate into ripples before I disappear forever.

My path only applies to me, and it includes very little creature comforts or monetary concerns. I’d rather live a pauper on my terms than be a well compensated slave.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Ogre wrote:

My path only applies to me, and it includes very little creature comforts or monetary concerns. I’d rather live a pauper on my terms than be a well compensated slave.

Ding ding ding.. A winner

Allow me to paraphrase in a general sense.
Whats in it for me?

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[RoyDalParticipant]

There is a long list of parables from Chinese Daoist philosophy. The short version is the “useless” man is the happiest.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

Those questions are easy:

What does the situation require?

The collapse of western civilisation as we know it is required.

Given my strengths, my way of performing, and my values, how can I make the greatest contribution to what needs to be done?

The greatest contribution I can make is to leech off the regime and hasten its bankruptcy.

And finally, What results have to be achieved to make a difference?

The deprivation of revenues and the explosion of expenses must cause the printing of paper currency to the extent that it creates hyperinflation. Once the people see the incompetence of western regimes, maybe something less stupid and hostile to men might come in to place. See also – Turd Flinging Monkey’s The Egalitarianism Cycle.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I have started, and over time will add more, created a playlist of videos I am doing on Finding Your Way, which looks to give tools to MGTOW to find their way in life. By not being Blue Pill, a lot of standard expectations are removed,

Anyhow, here is the playlist so far:

I have a video planned in the coming weeks on intrinsic motivation for it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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