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    Is there a plan for a chat room in the works?

    Actually yes! We would have implemented already but we had to get serious about fixing other problems. The “force strong passwords for everyone” thing (On Oct 22) was the best move we made, really. Big inconvenience for everyone , but damn near NOBODY complained about it and made big changes you can’t see – like supporting local image uploads(!!!!) and things like that.

    TIP: If you want to localize an image here (instead of relying on picture from another website0, you can post it on your “wall” and the right click to get the local link for it. It goes in YOUR member# folder so we know who uploaded it.

    The entire “upload” / avatar thing was just FINALLY sorted the other day and we are very happy about that.

    Haven’t formally announced it yet because we have some bugs with the “follow” feature and a few others, but we are kicking ass to bring at all as quickly as possible. We just added custom fields ahead of schedule yesterday (which you can edit now – like your display name) and we still have custom signatures to do.

    We also want to do everything properly.……… so while we can just trow a chat feature up pretty quickly, there has to be a strict QA (quality assurance) phase…. and we have to ask all the questions and find the BEST solution. Like what is it for? How many users will it support at once? Do people want it ? Should it be only for those in a certain group? Should we have groups? And all of that. A few other things first before live chat. And we have a few surprises we want to release first.

    @keymaster not sure if this is the right place to ask but here I go,
    When it comes to writing a post what is the time scale of that post before it no longer belongs to the the OP? as in being able to edit it or delete it, Im not looking to edit anything but I have noticed my posts are no longer mine in this respect but not been able to ascertain the reasons and time scale (only that it would mess replys up)
    Liking the changes to the site
    Thank you.

    You can ask anywhere, really, but the Q&A forum is where others will go to read other questions. This may be less visible to others. But I will answer it here.

    We restrict the ability to edit your post to 30 minutes. We can increase that to an hour if you really want it, but the reason we don’t allow edits after a certain time is important. You don’t want someone (or even a troll) to post a bunch of s~~~….. have a bunch members spend their time reading and replying to exactly what they wrote…….. and THEN still have the ability to change or delete anything / or everything. It just adds an extra level of removing asshole behavior. It’s not right to generate replies from others and then change it.

    As an example….. a member recently asked us to delete 3 entire threads — after generating like 100 replies – because they didnt get the responses they were hoping for. It was like a dickhead troll who just wanted to stir up s~~~….. and then in convenience us to delete everything. What the f~~~ is the point of that?? We can’t allow members to play with other people’s time like that.

    You have 30 minutes to make a change or an edit, and if you want to make one later, just send us a link to the post you want to modify. Happy to comply, but throwing entire threads out is not a cool practice.

    Thanks KM makes prefect sense now you have explained it, 30 mins is plenty even for me that always reads my posts from an outsider looking in only after its up and 30 mins is usually enough time, preview button would help me in that respect, I think Im making sense when writing it but only notice it makes no sense at all after reading it a few times lol bit slow like that me.
    Thanks again

    Cool story babe now go make me a sandwich


    Anonymous

    Great question!

    I’m one of the young, future successful MGTOWs you mentioned. I’m athletic, decent height, and I’m outgoing/sociable.

    My main reasons for MGTOW:
    1) I don’t like compromising on my future/life plans. I’ve never liked it, really. and I have a long personal history of questioning everything, not “keeping up with the Joneses,” and thinking for myself instead of going along with what friends want just to “fit in.” I’m proud of my ability to be an advocate for myself.

    My basic principle is: this is MY life. And ultimately, what I do will impact me and my happiness. so I AM THE ONLY PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR MY HAPPINESS.

    If I want to go on a trip overseas, I will go. If I want to quit a job and join another one, I will go. I don’t want to have to discuss and clear it by someone else first.

    So being a MGHOW grants me that personal liberty/freedom and that is why I like it.

    2) Horrible Female Behavior- between the false rape claims, the consumerism to keep up with the Joneses, the vanity that I’m seeing gin today’s girls- taking selfies every couple of minutes, the inability to keep a conversation, etc. it’s just not worth it for me.

    3) Auxiliary reasons- Divorce rape, Alimony, Courts biased against men, etc.

    So, in summary, my MGTOW character derives from 3 major reasons.

    The first (and most important) is my desire for independence and self-advocacy, which is something I have valued for a long time. This is an inherent desire, and when my friends want to go do something that I’m not interested in, I just tell them no thanks and do my own thing. I’m not afraid to say no.

    The second, more situational but equally important, reason to me is the horrible behavior by women, as we have observed by the various stories uploaded on here by our brothers.

    And finally, the environment we live in- with the courts.

    EVEN IF THE LAWS BECOME FAIR, ALIMONY IS REMOVED, AND WOMEN TREAT MEN KINDLY, I WOULD STILL REMAIN a MGTOW BECAUSE I VALUE PERSONAL LIBERTY/FREEDOM.

    You sound like me when I was younger. The only problem is that as you get older, things get lonelier. If you have an issue with being alone, that will be a problem. It’s not really an issue for me, and I have read things that indicate younger men are forming stronger social groups of their own instead of plugging into the matriarchy system of families, but you guys are still young so who knows in 10, 15, 20 years how things look.

    I hate to give any credit to Fat Horney’s thinking. Women have always been extremely easy, especially if all you wanted was sex. I was always more of a traditional man when I was younger, more interested in a serious family and serious commitment. But I had the body and looks of a “Chad” as people call it these days. I had a ton of female attention, and all women ever wanted was to have sex. No relationships, those were reserved for the men they DIDN’T want to have sex with. To this day that still is mind boggling to me. There was a time when I let my beliefs go, became apostate, and willingly engaged on women’s terms.

    It was awful. I do not think either men or women were designed to want these types of encounters that modern feminism has pushed onto us. Woman was created as a help meet, a companion for men. Sex is supposed to be something between loving partners and as exclusive. A trust needs to even be built up first and continuing onwards after. Obviously modern women fail at every point.

    And as you point out, even if the laws change, it’s still a great sacrifice for a man to be with a woman. And frankly they’ll change the laws back again, they did it once, why wouldn’t they do it again? As long as the State is around or a threat to be around, it’s impossible for healthy male-female relations. But even if it were healthy again, for my part I’m too old to care, for your part you’re too independent and will become too old to care.

    Ironically enough, most of the “red pill” theory I’ve been given through my life has been from women. I’ve been encouraged to run around pump and dumping ever since I was in my late teens. And this was a long time ago, so it’s not like it’s just this current generation of young women. Women have been like this at least for decades, for as long as I’ve been alive. They maybe reserved these ideas for a smaller selection of men, and hence why it was such a shock to see this is what women were really like, but now with the internet and everything, it’s obvious that this is what women are. How can any man commit? And if you are a man with religious conviction, you can’t even fornicate either, so what good are women at all?

    Oneforfreedom
    Oneforfreedom
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    Great question!

    I’m one of the young, future successful MGTOWs you mentioned. I’m athletic, decent height, and I’m outgoing/sociable.

    My main reasons for MGTOW:
    1) I don’t like compromising on my future/life plans. I’ve never liked it, really. and I have a long personal history of questioning everything, not “keeping up with the Joneses,” and thinking for myself instead of going along with what friends want just to “fit in.” I’m proud of my ability to be an advocate for myself.

    My basic principle is: this is MY life. And ultimately, what I do will impact me and my happiness. so I AM THE ONLY PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR MY HAPPINESS.

    If I want to go on a trip overseas, I will go. If I want to quit a job and join another one, I will go. I don’t want to have to discuss and clear it by someone else first.

    So being a MGHOW grants me that personal liberty/freedom and that is why I like it.

    2) Horrible Female Behavior- between the false rape claims, the consumerism to keep up with the Joneses, the vanity that I’m seeing gin today’s girls- taking selfies every couple of minutes, the inability to keep a conversation, etc. it’s just not worth it for me.

    3) Auxiliary reasons- Divorce rape, Alimony, Courts biased against men, etc.

    So, in summary, my MGTOW character derives from 3 major reasons.

    The first (and most important) is my desire for independence and self-advocacy, which is something I have valued for a long time. This is an inherent desire, and when my friends want to go do something that I’m not interested in, I just tell them no thanks and do my own thing. I’m not afraid to say no.

    The second, more situational but equally important, reason to me is the horrible behavior by women, as we have observed by the various stories uploaded on here by our brothers.

    And finally, the environment we live in- with the courts.

    EVEN IF THE LAWS BECOME FAIR, ALIMONY IS REMOVED, AND WOMEN TREAT MEN KINDLY, I WOULD STILL REMAIN a MGTOW BECAUSE I VALUE PERSONAL LIBERTY/FREEDOM.

    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Is there a plan for a chat room in the works?

    Actually yes! We would have implemented already but we had to get serious about fixing other problems. The “force strong passwords for everyone” thing (On Oct 22) was the best move we made, really. Big inconvenience for everyone , but damn near NOBODY complained about it and made big changes you can’t see – like supporting local image uploads(!!!!) and things like that.

    TIP: If you want to localize an image here (instead of relying on picture from another website0, you can post it on your “wall” and the right click to get the local link for it. It goes in YOUR member# folder so we know who uploaded it.

    The entire “upload” / avatar thing was just FINALLY sorted the other day and we are very happy about that.

    Haven’t formally announced it yet because we have some bugs with the “follow” feature and a few others, but we are kicking ass to bring at all as quickly as possible. We just added custom fields ahead of schedule yesterday (which you can edit now – like your display name) and we still have custom signatures to do.

    We also want to do everything properly.……… so while we can just trow a chat feature up pretty quickly, there has to be a strict QA (quality assurance) phase…. and we have to ask all the questions and find the BEST solution. Like what is it for? How many users will it support at once? Do people want it ? Should it be only for those in a certain group? Should we have groups? And all of that. A few other things first before live chat. And we have a few surprises we want to release first.

    @KeyMaster not sure if this is the right place to ask but here I go,
    When it comes to writing a post what is the time scale of that post before it no longer belongs to the the OP? as in being able to edit it or delete it, Im not looking to edit anything but I have noticed my posts are no longer mine in this respect but not been able to ascertain the reasons and time scale (only that it would mess replys up)
    Liking the changes to the site
    Thank you.

    You can ask anywhere, really, but the Q&A forum is where others will go to read other questions. This may be less visible to others. But I will answer it here.

    We restrict the ability to edit your post to 30 minutes. We can increase that to an hour if you really want it, but the reason we don’t allow edits after a certain time is important. You don’t want someone (or even a troll) to post a bunch of s~~~….. have a bunch members spend their time reading and replying to exactly what they wrote…….. and THEN still have the ability to change or delete anything / or everything. It just adds an extra level of removing asshole behavior. It’s not right to generate replies from others and then change it.

    As an example….. a member recently asked us to delete 3 entire threads — after generating like 100 replies – because they didnt get the responses they were hoping for. It was like a dickhead troll who just wanted to stir up s~~~….. and then in convenience us to delete everything. What the f~~~ is the point of that?? We can’t allow members to play with other people’s time like that.

    You have 30 minutes to make a change or an edit, and if you want to make one later, just send us a link to the post you want to modify. Happy to comply, but throwing entire threads out is not a cool practice.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #133476
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    Most people have no clue how jacked up the divorce/child custody system is until it’s too late. The short version of it is this…

    – Marriage is a BUSINESS contract which favors the women the majority of the time. Don’t ever let anyone tell you that it’s not a BUSINESS contract first and foremost! That always gets lost in the Love and Marriage speeches that are drummed into our head since birth.
    – Unless you are very deliberate and plan ahead you will suffer significant loss in any divorce whether kids are involved or not. If you have kids with her its almost certain it ends up that way.
    – Don’t ever put your girlfriend or wife’s name on any bank accounts, vehicle titles, mortgage agreements etc. It has absolutely no advantage to anyone but the woman in that situation and will come back to haunt you when you split.
    – Do not let a girlfriend or wife deposit or withdraw money into your bank accounts or make payments in her name to your mortgage company or other bills. It is considered co-mingling of assets in many situations and can give her legal claim to a portion of your accounts or home. If she insists on helping pay for bills that is great…..have her give you cash or a personal check but do not let it get deposited or paid directly to your accounts.
    – DONT put her name on any accounts of assets….I am saying this again to get the point across.

    And finally marriage is BUSINESS contract that favors the woman no matter how it ends and the stats say that it will. Don’t let your priest, mom, or college roommate ever tell you otherwise.

    ILiveAgain
    ILiveAgain
    Participant

    The sad facts in all this are:

    1. A feminist making it

    2. She has to crowd fund coz her sisters won’t help

    3. A female on men’s issues. Just think this the other way round

    4. Who will learn from it?

    5. Will it change anything?

    6. It will be forgotten when the next episode of s~~~ starts.

    7. Man Up will be the mantra after.

    I wish it could be different. I wish this woman was a man. I wish the feminist was a mgtow. I wish …… well no ….. I wish nothing any more …. just like most of us …. I stopped wishing … I now ‘do’

    There is nothing for men …. NOTHING.

    There’s your film right there.

    30 seconds to explain this simple fact.

    I would gladly fund that.

    I’m sorry you got a hard time here … but what did you expect?

    Coming to slaves and telling them the plantation owner has asked around and now realises his slaves have a raw deal ….

    There won’t be a solution. Women won’t change …. nor the politics. I fear it will just p~~~ everyone off.

    Slave owners don’t like the truth & it’s not teaching the slaves anything they don’t already know.

    If this was genuine … then I’m sorry. I wish it had been 50 years earlier.

    We mgtow have long past the helping hand stage. We know there is no search and rescue.

    We are on our island and making do with what we have …. NOTHING …. but each other.

    The irony is … having nothing but our brothers …. is interesting women. We have the least to offer but still they want in?

    You gotta love that about them.

    Finally, from myself, I wish you good luck ….. you’re going to need it …

    Just ask the guys re BBC and then you may grasp why the door is being slammed.

    Jackinov
    Jackinov
    Participant

    So in February 2015, I weighed 215lbs, and not a lot of that was muscle. I know this because in September 2014, I weighed 140 lbs (I was 17). Around March, I decided to take charge of my health and lose weight. I went down to 190 through mostly cardio.

    I began keep a graph of my weight to strength ratio when I began to work out. I started working out in late July. For reference, I’m 18, and 5’10.

    I started at:

    Bench Press: 90lbs
    Leg Press: 150lbs
    Incline: 50lbs
    Squat: 90lbs
    Bicep Curl 60lbs
    Tricep Machine: 90lbs
    Butterfly Machine: 90lbs

    Currently, I’m 178lbs and am now at:

    Bench Press: 175lbs
    Leg Press: 415lbs
    Incline: 150lbs
    Squat: 225lbs
    Bicep Curl 160lbs
    Tricep Machine: 180lbs
    Butterfly Machine: 300lbs

    I’m almost f~~~ing ripped. The muscle mass gain, to me, is ASTOUNDING. I’ve broken personal records I didn’t know I’d even get close to. However, If I can manage to cut about 10 more pounds, I’ll be where I’d like to be. I’ve hit a plateau it seems, and it’s hanging on around my stomach/chest area, making me look a LOT fatter than I am.

    Sunday, one of my friends (250lbs+) jumped on my back. Now a couple months ago, I was barely able to stand carrying him. This time however, I was able to run with him on my back.

    So what I’ve done is this: I’ve thrown out every single last piece of s~~~ junk food that I have, and have replaced it with trail mix. Not the bulls~~~ kind with m&ms and skittles in it, it has dried fruit and nuts only. It was calculated that I need at least 3100 calories to maintain my weight SO I’ve run a test today.

    I packed 1 cup and a half of trail mix to eat throughout the day. That’s 7:00am to 10:00pm. I munched on that every 30 minutes, and it had the effect I was looking for- I didn’t feel hungry at all today. I had that, orange juice, and 2 homemade chicken quasadias when I got home for a total calorie count today of 1300.

    If I keep that up, the weight should just fall the f~~~ off.

    Which leads me to my final point. Every-time I see some Facebook or Instagram t~~~ saying s~~~ like “omg losing weight is so hard” or “being fit vs cake, cake wins” etc just disgusts me. It always gets hundreds of likes from equally lazy t~~~s I know locally. It’s promoting and feeding self-indulgent LAZINESS, pure and simple.

    I talk to guys in the gym, and you know what their motivation was? “GETTING PUSSY”. I spoke to over 30-40 guys so far, and that’s all I’ve heard. Not “I want to take care of myself” or anything similar, just “I wanna get pussy”. F~~~ing disgusting.

    I would like to know if this is a good plan for cutting the last of the fat off, because I’m not sure if this’ll have the effect I want.

    are you a chia pet in man drag

    Ssrviennas
    ssrviennas
    Participant

    Hello MGTOW brothers. I am a 19 yr old mgtow from so cal. Heres my story and how i found the red pill

    . I really only started getting into girls at age 18, Before that I was mgtow and didn’t give a f~~~ about girls, just my friends and my weed. So I did a couple of online relationships, but they all ended with me getting dumped, The first girl I dated online I planned on seeing her in person and we talked on the phone but i was bluepill and always trying to be her ”comforter”, that just ended up me getting dumped. So fast forward a year, I find another girl online, and she drives and meets me. I should have known she was a slut, but I let my blue pill thinking get the best of me. She was really affectionate and we made out a lot on my first date ever with a girl. I sucked her breasts and that was an amazing experience.. So the months go by and we see each other every other week, we became really close, she would get a hotel room for us and she would cuddle with me and kiss me all night.

    Then I got super attached to her and was falling in ”love”. She said she was falling for me too and asked me to be her BF. I gladly accepted. This chick was pretty mentally ill. She was molested as a child and had a eating disorder and self harming, but she was going to therapy and recovering, I told her i was a porn addict and i was willing to get into therapy and i wanted to make this relationship last a long time. So we spend the weekend together on my birthday planning our future together and falling more in ”love”.

    Finally, a week after she asks me to be her BF, she texts me and tells me she cant do this anymore and she needs time to her self. She said she was really busy with college and work. I knew it was bulls~~~ because if you really loved some one you would have time to make it work. After she dumped me i became really f~~~ing depressed, Literally I have been depressed since last febuary when she dumped me, Since FEB i have been numbing my self with Porn and food, i gained about 40 lbs.

    Guys this is pure hell, I found out about MGTOW after she dumped me and i was really f~~~ing angry, I would text her and tell her what a bitch she was to me and how hurt i was. She would just say how sorry she was and how she made a mistake. So today i woke up and had a dream about her, and i looked her up on Facebook, i was shocked to find she was in a relationship. I guess she was in this relationship since February right after she dumped me.. Guys i have been numbing my self for almost a year now and i cant continue numbing my self, but on the other hand, im still not over this damn bitch and knowing she lied about the reason she broke up with me really hurts bad. I am 3 days sober from porn and the memories and pain are really hitting hard core.

    The reason i am mgtow is i know the fickle and backstabbing nature of women, and i never want to go through the pain of a heart break again, i really have no desire to deal with women again because i always know its going to end up in suffering. If any of you can give me some advice or tell me how you dealt with your pain of a break up it would be much appreciated.

    Cheeky Bastard
    Cheeky Bastard
    Participant

    Another amusing detail is, though it isn’t the most popular definition of MGTOW on Urban Dictionary. They were still accepted through their so-called peer review process.

    1.“A group of men who are angry at the fact that women are finally taking their place in society.”

    2.“whiny douchebags who can’t get girlfriend” with “blatant hatred of women” “because they can’t get laid”

    3. “toxic selfish society of men”

    4.Some of the less popular ones that still got through the so-called peer review process are.

    a.“Social terrorists”
    b.“Belligerent” “Narco terrorists” “which the plan to bring down Western civilisation by lowering the birth rate”.
    c.“Unpatriotic” “tea party confederate racists” little confusing their seeing MGTOW is a multinational movement, but was still approved
    d.“misogynistic” “basement dwelling pigs”

    They literally approve of hate speech as long as it’s against men

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    MOWsince95
    MOWsince95
    Participant

    Thought I’d provide a follow-up to the thread 2 weeks ago for the Chilean trip where told my now-forgotten cumdumpster “I’m going to Chile, you do what you want.”

    First things first – thanks for the advice, gents. No, I did not pay for her flight so no money lost. Also, I’ve had a vasectomy and always use condoms so no serious chance of her pulling the knocked up routine. NEVER put your money nor your sperm in the control of a woman unless you long to be f~~~ed over.

    That point aside, cumdumpster cut me off from her “Vag-Almighty” for the 2 days before the trip anyway. Such a loss … not sure how I endured the terrible suffering … so I gleefully go on my trip alone (the empty seat next to me made the flight far better) and Chile is absolutely freakin fabulous. Incredible beauty, nice urban scenes, good people, good food, lots to do and see … highly recommend it. To me it’s like Italy but better and half the price.

    Though I generally despise tours, while there I went on one early to a coastal area and on this tour I met a jaw-dropping-gorgeous Brazilian chick about 35 years old also traveling alone. We hung out for the tour and for the next week (her flight out left same day as mine). After a couple days we were up at the apartment I’d rented and fell asleep together on the couch. Nothing much between us had happened at this point. About 2 hours later I wake up and she has her pants and panties off and is grinding it hard on my leg. The animal part of me is thinking “hot” but the sane MGTOW part is thinking “if I were a woman and woke and some guy had dropped his drawers and were rubbing his c~~~ on my leg without my consent, I’d jail and sue his ass and win in a heartbeat.” Anyway, it’s a vacation, I didn’t object, let her get herself off a few times and helped a bit, but didn’t nail her for a couple more days. I relish their reaction when you decline.

    So I arrive back here last week Wednesday and no sooner do I stopover in Houston than the ex-cumdumpster is messaging me saying what an asshole I am and that she is cutting me off permanently. Hey, perfect – now I don’t need to deal with the Christmas s~~~ I despise, and I don’t answer. 20 other messages come thru from her in the next 8 hours trying to lure me into her psycho-drama, all of which I ignore, p~~~ing her off more because to women nothing can be worse to a man than denying him their pussy.

    But then the best part – Brazilian chick (35-ish yrs old, impacting the wall) messages me on the same day I land that she wants me to fly to Brazil to see her again. I reply that I basically just got off the plane and have real s~~~ to take care of and am not even thinking of my next trip yet. She tries to lure me with promises of her hole, I ignore it. Next day she messages that she wants to fly up here at Christmas when I am at my parents to meet them and spend time with me and then drive back to my house with me. WTF? – meet the parents? This effin’ B who raped my leg while I slept thinks I am so enthralled by her slutty ass that I want her to meet my folks while she worms her way into my life. Needless to say I shut that down quickly and brutally and haven’t heard another word from her in 2 days, thank God.

    So that’s it. Chicks are convinced that the minute they get you in their hole, they own you lock, stock, and barrel. Once they cop that attitude, dump them. Hell, just dump them before.

    Finally, here is a pic of the sunset over Santiago from my apartment for you to enjoy. Beautiful, I think …

    If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
    If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.

    #132451
    Tripvan
    tripvan
    Participant

    So from my understanding, this is the state of things
    1) Is global climate change real and a fact ? Yes, very much so.
    2) Is global warming real and a fact ? No idea. At the moment, it seems to be just a hypothesis.
    3) Should we take steps to reduce pollution, use more efficient utilities and use alternative energy sources ? Yes, absolutely.

    1) In the semantic war, no, it is not real in the sense that other people use this term. Yes it is real when speaking about global variations in average temperature, but keep in mind this term has been politicized to almost exclusively imply human causation.

    2) Yes, and so is global cooling, these are statements of observation, not hypothesis. But again, this word has been politicized to refer to an ´unmistakable´ trend towards the warming of the global average temperature. The hypothesis is that humans are directly responsible, but this is seen as a foregone conclusion.

    3) Depends. Does it make sense to swap out all your cheap sources of cleaner-burning ´dirty´ power for the construction of expensive, resource-heavy, ´clean´ windmills that can not be relied to supply base-load power? In other words, how ´clean´ are these new technologies when you choose to factor in the environmental cost for their development, mass production and shelf-life sustainability? Sure there are other options besides windmill, but each have their own unique environmental and financial burdens too.

    You see the long term issue is not about being sustainable for nature. It is about negatively affecting the economy by making electricity an expensive commodity – wrecking small and large businesses/industries which can not afford to function at competitive levels with these ´clean´ prices.

    HOWEVER On this theme, I agree that we need to stop pollution. Why? For our ecosystem, for our own living standards, lots of reasons. BUT, this can be done best by organizing communities in your own local area at the grass roots level to petition against organizations polluting around you.

    The worst aspect about this global warming facade is that it has ultimately given a large banner to march under, and more than ensured the ´environmentalists´ distance from those who could really help them on the local level – those who already know something is fishy with the global warming science. Why is this so important? Because:

    1) Most of those following under the larger banner follow to look good among their gynocracy,
    2) then the least among them follow and are side-tracked from local issues to go follow their world crusade, and finally
    3) those of us who are convinced against human caused global warming could use our minds to trigger environmental activism at the local level, working against industries and businesses which pollute in our communities. But alas, we inherently stay away from such activities because it means we have to get along with all global warming activist church and left-wing influenced organizations i.e. greenpeace, etc.

    Favourite books on the subject:

    Michael Crichton – State of Fear
    http://www.amazon.com/State-Fear-Michael-Crichton/dp/0061782661/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445774961&sr=8-1&keywords=michael+crichton+state+of+fear
    Being so phased by the global warming movement, it took me a long time to get around to reading this book. I wish I had read it a lot earlier. It is truly a -thrilling- read, and gives you a taste of the darker sides of the environmental movement.

    Roger Scruton – How to Think Seriously About the Planet: The Case for an Environmental Conservatism
    http://www.amazon.com/Think-Seriously-About-Planet-Environmental/dp/0199371245/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445775136&sr=8-1&keywords=roger+scruton+climate
    Don´t let the C-word scare you on this one. Scruton gives a valuable description of how the politics intertwine with reality, and more about what I have been talking about – the importance of environmental activism at the local political level. In fact I would go so far as to say that the larger political movement was created to stifle this kind of local activism.

    #132131
    Dybbuk
    Dybbuk
    Participant

    I don’t seem to have much of a problem with ads. Anyway, here’s the list for those who don’t want to click. It’s better with the pictures, but oh well…

    20. Whining About Your “Lost Freedom”
    You made your choice, pal. Nobody held you at gunpoint going down that aisle. You voluntarily committed to domestication. You made your bed, now sleep on the very edge of it with no blanket and a knee in your back.
    19. Acting Like You’re Friggin MacGyver Every Time You Turn A Screw
    Let’s all marvel at your wrench abilities after you just tightened the washing machine hose. Wow, you’re amazing, Tool Man. You have absolutely no idea what you’re doing and only just learned a Philips head from a flat head last week. When you were a bachelor, you called the super every time the air filter needed a change. You’re done, sit down.
    18. Joint Facebook Accounts
    Aww, do you miss your b~~~~? Nobody likes joint accounts and the only thing we hate more than joint accounts are the people who have them. You look like an idiot and it makes us wonder if you keep your tampons in your pocket or in the man-purse she makes you carry. People with joint Facebook accounts are why terrorists want to kill us.
    17. Pretending You Still Gamble On Football
    Oh yeah, like The Warden lets you spend your allowance when the Bears are -14.5 over the Packers. Sure you are, Ace. We all know you haven’t spoken to your bookie since the bachelor party and probably forgot how to read a moneyline.
    16. Leaving Happy Hour At 5:45 Because Wifey Doesn’t Know You’re Out
    Seriously, why did you even come out? Go home to your woman. We’d rather have you skip Happy Hour than watch you fidget with your phone the whole time and then cut out after one round because you “have a lot of stuff to do around the house.” Just don’t go. It’s fine, we’ll get over it.
    15. Pretending You Enjoy Antiquing When There’s Perfectly Good Football Being Played
    Do you seriously expect us to believe your c~~~amamie “I’m fine, I DVR’d it” story? No, because you’re not fine, and we’re going to tell you the score before you get home, just on general principle. The antiques lasted 75 years, we guarantee you they’ll still be there when the Pats have a bye week.
    14. Expecting Sympathy For Your Utterly Pedestrian Sex Life
    It cannot be said enough: You signed up for this. It’s a well-known fact that marrying a girl will cause her to turn the booty faucet way down, if not completely off. We don’t care that you’re not getting it like you used to and that when you do it’s like snaking out a shower drain. Don’t tell us about the stuff we warned you about going into it. We prefer our non-guaranteed but enjoyable sex to whatever it is you’ve got going on over there. You brought this on yourself.
    13. Trying To Check Our Man Card When We Don’t Go Out The One Weekend She’s Away
    Josie’s on a vacation far away? Is that so? And you want to go out to the bar? You say we’re all kitten vaginas for not going out with you? Really, Chad? You’re going there? Where were you the last twelve times we went to Chotchkie’s for a beer? You were at home knitting potholders is where you were. You also told us you’re not about that anymore, you’re a married man. Know what, Chad? We’re all busy tonight. You’re on your own, Broseph.
    12. Using Your Nauseating Pet Names For Each Other Outside Of Your House
    if you’re okay with her calling you “Trumpetbutt” and you want to call her “Whistlebritches” — more power to you. That doesn’t mean Public has to hear that. Call your wife Anne or Sarah or Denise — or whatever name her parents gave her. Come on, man… how do you live with yourself?
    11. Bragging About The Man Cave She Let You Build
    We have a Man Cave too. It’s called “the entire place.” We don’t let someone else tell us what to watch and where to watch it in the house or apartment that we pay for. And stop saying she’s so “awesome” for giving you permission to build this shrine to the memory of when you had b~~~~. If she was so awesome, she’d watch football with you instead of sending you to your room.
    10. Sticking By Your “I Don’t Miss The GTO” Story That We Know Is Baloney
    Because of course you’re happier in that moronic dad car she forced you to trade the 1970 Judge in for. We all believe that. We also believe the aliens pick the World Series winners every year and that Floyd Mayweather is a good guy. Don’t claim you prefer the shackles of a wife-imposed midsize sedan over the American muscle you surrendered. It just insults us all.
    9. Letting Her Talk You Into Matching iPhone Lock Screens
    That’s just… wow. Yeah, let’s maybe just don’t. If you need your iPhone’s lock screen to remind you what your wife looks like — that’s bad. In a world where even having a photo of you two as the lock screen is bad, when they’re puzzle pieced? Come on. Just don’t.
    8. Giving Us Round-By-Round Recaps Of Arguments
    That’s a shame you got in an argument. Is it better now? Good… leave it alone. The less we know the better, because we don’t want to get dragged into a married people argument. That’s like taking sides with the Israelis and Palestinians — nobody wins. It’s not something we need to hear every single “she said this, then she said that, then she said this” for. It’s boring and we don’t really care.
    7. Telling Us It’s “Okay To Look”
    Well, no… it’s actually not okay. That’s kind of how this whole marriage thing works. When you tell us it’s “okay to look”, we never know if you’re trying to convince us or yourself. We’re okay to look because we are not married and have remained as such for a reason. You have “forsaken all others” and we’re not going to thumbs up you for not acting like it. Looking is one thing, justifying it to your buddies is another thing entirely.
    6. Acting Like You Forgot What Public Is Like The One Night We Do Go Out
    So you finally got paroled for the night, we’re all free, and we go out. Everyone’s having a good time, except you… pounding beers and shouting “Spring Break ’09 woohoo” at the top of your lungs. We understand you need to cram six months of going out into one night — we get that. But you’re about to get left at the bar.
    5. Going Along With Your Wife’s Stupid Ideas Like You Agree With Them
    Yeah, like you totally think everyone who walks into your house should take their shoes off. Give us a break, we know she decreed it and you just said yes in order to preserve your monthly sex night. The wife reads some baloney on Pinterest about kids not needing to eat honey or look at the color green, and you just say “Yes, dear.” Don’t act like you’re into this. It insults us all.
    4. Endless Retelling Of Bachelor Party Anecdotes
    Yeah, yeah, you went there, you went here. You got all kinds of wild and had a third beer. Uh huh. Every bachelor party story you tell is one more sign you’re desperately trying to hang on to being cool. Bachelor parties are meant as one last hurrah. Not your arsenal of crazy stories for the rest of your pathetic life. If you want crazy stories more than a year after your wedding, grow a pair and start coming out with us.
    3. Expecting Us To Keep Your Secrets For You
    According to Section 14.3.21 of the Bros Before Hoes statute of Guy Code, we are bound to keep your secrets for you. That means you can tell us your secrets, not that you should. If you don’t want her to find out you blew a whole $15 at the track, here’s a novel idea — don’t tell her. There’s no need to pull us into your petty web of lies. Fibs like this are the gateway drug to hiding affair children and layoffs.
    2. Asking Us When We’ll Join This Cult Of Yours
    “So when are you gonna get married?” When we decide our freedom isn’t worth living anymore. When we grow tired of coming and going as we please. When the craving for being bossed around gets too much to bear. Do you guys get some kind of conversion points for each one of us you bring over? It’s like asking when you’re going to get around to doing muay thai boxing. Maybe it’s not your cup of tea.
    1. Obsessing Over Your Yard
    Mowing the lawn, landscaping, planting stuff — it’s a bizarre obsession. Sure, it makes your house look good, but you go on and on and on about it. You mow the lawn during football. You ask opinions on hedges and flower planters. You show off your new riding mower like it’s something we care about. How about you just hire a gardener and we talk about sports again?


    Anonymous

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/21/julia-gillard-from-australias-first-female-prime-minister-to-international-superstar?CMP=soc_567
    Julia Gillard was the politically appointed prime minister of Australia. She was selected by a secret Labour party group to replace our duly elected Prime Minister.
    Even by political standards her actions were a new low, yet women across Australia accepted and supported her simply because she’s a woman.
    In all political usurping in Australian history, every prime ministerial coup candidate has been well known to the sitting Prime Minister. Not in this case. Right up to the last minute this reptile was hugging, smiling and privately and publicly swearing friendship and allegiance.
    She claimed to the Australian public her betrayal was because of a snap decision but much concrete evidence has since emerged that she had plenty of time to think about it. She lied.
    Out of the blue, when she was Prime Minister, she made her Misogyny speech in parliament. Even the article above tells of how weird and humorous it was to political observers.
    Men had no idea how fanatically the women of Australia would support Gillard for it.
    In one session she smeared and painted the opposition leader so badly with the Misogyny brush that he never really recovered. All her accusations against him were just her opinions and interpretations. Women in social media HATE him because of it.
    Sexual harassment is a powerful feminist theme that appeals to over half of voters, despite the avalanche of legislation that keeps men cowering in work places, treading on egg-shells, being discriminated in criminal and civil law and directly discriminating against them as a result of quota laws.


    Hillary is making no secret of her fanatical feminist agenda and Julia Gillard is part of her agenda.
    Her war cry of sexual discrimination and harassment (the same as Julia Gillard) is her centralized theme, despite her certain knowledge that the opposite is true.
    Hillary is upfront that her fight is for “Women and Girls”, especially female education, despite the landslide of peer reviewed published statistics on the decline of men’s education in all western countries.
    Violence against women is also another big vote winner despite peer reviewed published papers constantly showing domestic violence is marginally more initiated by women, and all statistics showing men are the overwhelming proportion of victims in all other areas from war zones, civilian life and online.
    https://www.facebook.com/ACurrentAffair9
    We now have Oprah coming out of her “retirement” and indoctrinating the population on the theme of sexual harassment in the lead up to Hillary’s run.
    Oprah’s history of telling women what they want to hear needs no explanation on these forums. History will show that Oprah logic was the biggest influence of fanatical feminism.
    She’s now enhancing the illusion of discrimination against women thereby creating a need for Hillary. A standard marketing ploy.
    She would be one of the most powerful indoctrinating figures on the planet and it’s now clear she’s in war mode for Hillary.

    http://www.upworthy.com/lady-gagas-powerful-new-video-shows-the-reality-of-campus-sexual-assault
    Gaga has also jumped on the wagon to “Show the reality” of campus rape, despite the real reality.
    The above article quotes all the nonsensical feminist statistics despite the statistics constantly being refuted to the point of fabrication.
    Gaga’s staff would have spent at least 10 minutes on the net to know this phenomenon is a creation.
    The timing with the other hive queens with the same “Male Oppression” agenda is indicative.

    Gaga may seem trivial compared to the clout of the others but a quick glance at the YouTube numbers shows how effective her influence is compared to all MGTOW, Red Pill and MRA combined.
    Just this one video, in one month, nearly 18 MILLION hits, with over 300,000 thumbs up. It dwarfs all men’s voices combined.

    Women are getting their “Reality” from these hive queens and not the facts.
    There are hordes of other hive queens doing the same right now, too many to list in one post.
    Don’t dismiss radical feminism as a political movement. They’ll soon have supreme political power.
    If you think the law and discrimination is bad now you’re in for an unpleasant surprise.
    Stealth and MGTOW is your best weapon/defense.

    #130529
    DeepInThought
    DeepInThought
    Participant

    Well this s~~~ show finally ended last night when an ex female friend, she’s a grubby little gossip, decided to be a real piece of work and send me a pic of the happy couple on their wedding day. What a real piece of work huh?

    Anyway, I havent seen my ex for 2 years and OMG I cannot believe how haggered she looks, youd expect that after she punched a kid out at 40. Anyway this is what made me laugh. The Groom had the exact platinum wedding ring we had designed for me when we were planning our future and it was a casual beach wedding and the bride wore this lacey white dress. The dress was what she wore around in summer with me and I remember so vividly pulling it up and f~~~ing her so many times against the wall. Now it was her wedding dress. Oh the irony!

    Everything you guys said is 100% true, im a believer.

    Frank V.
    Frank V.
    Participant

    Let’s see here, you haven’t been married, don’t have kids, aren’t cohabiting with a women, and not planning on it, and are doing whatever the f~~~ you want. If your doing these things, your a mgtow.I don’t know how much more somebody can be mgtow than that. I’d say some brothers here will be proud of you and say wear it as a badge of honor.

    In terms of “relationships”, I only do it as an equal on cleary defined terms. I have no reason to ever sell myself into slavery, even if I got the money I asked for, the price would be terrible because I would be not free to spend it. Equality is not negotiable and attempts to “put it on the table” will result in a clear and final “no”. That kills the deal on anything like Traditional Marriage or family roles at the getgo. I am interested in sex and possibly companionship, nothing more.

    What has really amazed me is the striking adjustment I am making in this forum. In the face of strong and clear evidence that “something is wrong” with Traditional Marriage, people like me who chose a different path are often seen as walking scandals as though it is the 1950’s ! It is easy for me to feel isolated, like I am the lone biker or cowboy taking a path less traveled.

    But WHAMO, I end up here and am surprised by the friendly crowd ! Wow, someone just threw me a beer, invited me to one hell of a tailgate party and now I want to reach into the saddlebag and get out that bottle of Maker’s Mark to share it !

    I was told I would be lonely and sad taking this path. But as I sit down to a burger off the grill and a cold beer, hearing someone pouring themselves a generous double shot of the whiskey, I look out my binoculars at the minivan traffic jam on the main highway.

    “Those poor suckers” I mutter around a mouthfull of burger and shake my head.

    Guess I am still getting used to the crowd !

    Frank V.

    #129489

    In reply to: Everything is S~~~!

    JollyMisanthrope
    JollyMisanthrope
    Participant

    Took me a few decades to decide that mankind is f~~~ed and I have no intention of trying to help delay the fall.

    The cosmos has a perverse sense of humor and I choose to tap into it and let it bring me happiness.

    I think Adam Corolla said something to the tune of “Other human beings were put onto this planet for my amusement.”

    Our species is the absurd result of a universal rolling of the dice. On one hand our emergence is beyond what one would consider a miracle, when the odds are taken into account, and on the other hand, given what kind of a miracle took place, the final result is still a bunch of self-aware animals running amok.

    This is why the pretentiousness of all the two-faced do-gooders out there trying to save the planet and mankind make me want to puke in my suit.

    The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    It’s all part of Left Wing Socialism

    ^^ That’s it.

    Equality is bulls~~~ and it’s bad for you. When everyone is “the same”…. nobody can be “better”. These retards think there should be 9 winners in a race. “Everyone is special”….. is just another way of saying NOBODY is. Equality makes everyone as poor as the poorest, as attractive as the fattest, and it promotes laziness and complacency with no desire to improve themselves.

    F~~~ this planet.

    Venezuala recently reached the final stage of socialism: No toilet paper.
    http://www.cato.org/blog/venezuela-reaches-final-stage-socialism-no-toilet-paper

    That’s what it “accomplishes”. Everyone is “so special”….. they can’t even wipe their own asses anymore.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #128962
    Beer
    Beer
    Participant

    Haha…its the beauty of feminism and being a slut being empowering for women. F~~~ some slut for a few months…as soon as she mentions marriage or babies, ditch her, find another slut. Its hilarious how she says she has gone through a string of guys in her 30s who all pretty much let her down…maybe if she wasn’t so easy she wouldn’t get used for sex lol.

    I know this chick who is 34 who is doing the same exact thing. She’s pretty decent looking…but she blew her 20s “having fun.” She had her share of c~~~s and partying, and now she’s left with fading looks and a s~~~ty job because she always had guys willing to buy her s~~~ because manginas do that s~~~ for decent looking girls. In her early 30s and she found herself single with baby rabies. For the last 3 years she’s probably gone through 15 boyfriends that all last 1-3 months. The current guy she is “dating” is divorced, and in his late 40s with a teen age kid…the guys got a decent job and a house making himself a target for any woman with baby rabies. He told her he doesn’t plan on having any more kids as he doesn’t want to deal with a teenager in his 60s or another round of child support as he is finally almost done with the first round, and she thinks she can change his mind lol. I’m fairly certain the guy is snipped and just enjoying the fun for a few months until she realizes he is serious, then its on to the next c~~~.

    I suspect in a few more years when her ovaries are completely dry, she’ll be bitter and blaming men for her failures. It cracks me up how backwards women are these days. If I was a chick that wanted a husband+kids there would be no pussy given until I knew we were on the same page with marriage/kids in the future, and the relationship was exclusive. Instead chicks like this think if they give a guy a pussy buffet up front the guy will love them so much they’ll stick around for marriage/kids. Instead once the marriage/kids thing is brought up the guy just goes on to one of the other millions of desperate sluts in the same situation.

    She is 36, and believe it or not single.

    Gee, whatta surprise. What could have gone wrong with her life plan? What is in the least wrong with partying like a crazed weasel until you are 36 and then start looking around for a “nice guy” to marry?

    But that is what she has been led to believe she can have! She has spent her 20’s on the c~~~ carousel partying and f~~~ing Alpha men who make her vagina tingle. She was having such a good time that she has left it to the absolute last minute to finally settle for one of those nice men who will give her a house, children and basically support her from now on.

    Now they are moaning there are no good men out there, when these are the very men they would not have looked twice at when they were in their 20s! No surprise that these guys are not prepared to take you on when they have watched the Alpha’s f~~~ you for free. These are the women who are now on tinder/POF and getting pumped and dumped by these decent men who now realise these women are only any good for a quick f~~~.

    These women could get away with it years ago because Blue pill men believed that these women had spent their 20’s f~~~ing men with neck tattoos because it wasn’t until their 30’s that these women realised that what they really wanted was a nice, decent man (with a decent job, house and money!), before divorcing him and going back on the c~~~ carousel.

    With the internet the game is almost up as there are a million stories of blue pill men being taken to the cleaners by these women, so they soon realise they can also hit it and quit it and don’t have to marry it.

    Sorry women, you did it to yourself, it is as stupid as expecting me to pay full retail for a 10 year old car with 7 owners and 120K miles on the clock.

    For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant

    @russky:
    That sounds like a good plan, but here’s something you might also consider: Instead of buying something fairly decent right now, get the cheapest, most insignificant ride you can’t possibly get by with, and pump everything you can into savings or investments she can’t find. Apply the same strategy to everything: housing, food, whatever. Then, the moment she’s cashed the last of your 216 monthly payments, and you’re finally of the hook, you should be able to afford to go out and get yourself something you REALLY want. And there will be nothing she can do about it. Women HATE that.

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