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[Eric LauderParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

MGTaoist wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

I believe your definition and interpretation are incorrect. If it was correct, then the likes of Barbarossa, HUMAN and other prominent MGTOW who have a woman in their lives would be “blue pill”. That would be completely ridiculous. There are also many prominent members here who have a girl. Are they also “blue pill”? I think not. The red pill is merely reality. And reality may well be that we have a deep seated need for a woman in some capacity (indeed I believe that much is self evident) and that for some men, life is better when they choose to be with one despite the risks. This cuts to the core of my original message.

If you live with a woman, then you’re either blue pill or trapped in a blue pill situation, it doesn’t matter if you’re Barbarossa or someone else.
But that’s just my opinion.

MGTaoist wrote:

I doubt even so called monks can totally banish the need. Being a monk is a strategy to alleviate the urge. Fine if you can’t figure it out mate, it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid for some men. Personally I consider there are a lot lot of ‘monks’ who are actually blue pill because they are running scared of women. Note I said a lot of, not all.

I can’t speak for other men, but in my case my urge is what make me monk, it’s exactly because I have strong urges that being monk is far better than living with a woman.
Every morning I have an erection when I wake up. I had been married with a woman and also cohabited with another woman, I also had many other experiences but it doesn’t matter so much since I didn’t live with them – however even those experiences gave me some hints.
I KNOW that if I would live with a woman MOST mornings I couldn’t f~~~ her (I’m okay with that, her body her choice) NOR use a fleshlight (f~~~ off, that’s my body and my choice!), so sexually speaking living with a woman would be A SACRIFICE. Such sacrifice could be worthy if I would want children (I don’t want other kids, I already have kids) or if I would think that she can give me other benefits: benefits aren’t company or being loved (there are friends and kids for that) nor cooking and cleaning (that’s a joke, it’s not so much work, sometimes I even like to cook) but a good benefit it could be a person who is very able to save money, manage money and investments, and such person should also be someone who can be ABSOLUTELY trusted – women who are very able to manage, save and invest money are extremely rare, and they can’t be trusted, no matter how much good could be the person, due our laws and society actually encouraging women to stole half the man’s stuff when they’re bored – so, since I’m not bad at saving and managing my money and at investments, the risk isn’t worth the sacrifice (see the part about sexuality).
Regarding one-night stands: why not? If I don’t have to make efforts. I’m not going to make efforts to get sex with a condom, I already had a lot of one-night-stands in my 20s, a fleshlight is technically better, the good in one-night-stands is psychological satisfaction not physical pleasure but I don’t care anymore about such kind of psychological satisfaction.

You have an erection because you want a woman. No amount of intellectual thought will change that. I have said many times that for a lot of men the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. But some fully MGTOW men still choose to scratch the itch and they are not lesser MGTOW. If you believe that you haven’t understood what MGTOW is. Nor are they necessarily less red pilled. If you are not being with a woman because she is x or y or isn’t z then you are still clinging to some blue pilled notion of what you wish women were. I know exactly what women are but despite that they still bring relief to my life. F~~~ off to anyone attempting to shame me for that choice, I go my own way.

I don’t know and it doesn’t matter why I have an erection every damn morning: point being that a woman within my bed CANNOT SATISFY ME MOST MORNINGS, a woman isn’t going to have sex with her partner all the mornings, and not even most the mornings: this isn’t an “intellectual thought” but a VERY PRACTICAL THOUGHT, actually the very opposite.
I couldn’t care less about definitions and abstract concepts: either a woman is able to have sex with me EVERY morning or she’s not able to do it.
The overwhelming majority of women aren’t able to do it. Game over, then, I’m not going to invest my time in pursuing a woman and then trying to live with her hoping she turns out to be an unicorn, especially not with actual laws: in my country living with a woman already give her rights on my stuff.
To be totally fair: except for a case, women giving me strong signals aren’t fugly nor poor, they’re at least pretty decent regarding both, and even the fugly case still has a ittle more income (though unstable) than me, I have to admit that they aren’t obiouvs gold-diggers, but I don’t care: I know how things work, and that suffice.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Anonymous]

Eric Lauder wrote:

MGTaoist wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

I believe your definition and interpretation are incorrect. If it was correct, then the likes of Barbarossa, HUMAN and other prominent MGTOW who have a woman in their lives would be “blue pill”. That would be completely ridiculous. There are also many prominent members here who have a girl. Are they also “blue pill”? I think not. The red pill is merely reality. And reality may well be that we have a deep seated need for a woman in some capacity (indeed I believe that much is self evident) and that for some men, life is better when they choose to be with one despite the risks. This cuts to the core of my original message.

If you live with a woman, then you’re either blue pill or trapped in a blue pill situation, it doesn’t matter if you’re Barbarossa or someone else.
But that’s just my opinion.

MGTaoist wrote:

I doubt even so called monks can totally banish the need. Being a monk is a strategy to alleviate the urge. Fine if you can’t figure it out mate, it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid for some men. Personally I consider there are a lot lot of ‘monks’ who are actually blue pill because they are running scared of women. Note I said a lot of, not all.

I can’t speak for other men, but in my case my urge is what make me monk, it’s exactly because I have strong urges that being monk is far better than living with a woman.
Every morning I have an erection when I wake up. I had been married with a woman and also cohabited with another woman, I also had many other experiences but it doesn’t matter so much since I didn’t live with them – however even those experiences gave me some hints.
I KNOW that if I would live with a woman MOST mornings I couldn’t f~~~ her (I’m okay with that, her body her choice) NOR use a fleshlight (f~~~ off, that’s my body and my choice!), so sexually speaking living with a woman would be A SACRIFICE. Such sacrifice could be worthy if I would want children (I don’t want other kids, I already have kids) or if I would think that she can give me other benefits: benefits aren’t company or being loved (there are friends and kids for that) nor cooking and cleaning (that’s a joke, it’s not so much work, sometimes I even like to cook) but a good benefit it could be a person who is very able to save money, manage money and investments, and such person should also be someone who can be ABSOLUTELY trusted – women who are very able to manage, save and invest money are extremely rare, and they can’t be trusted, no matter how much good could be the person, due our laws and society actually encouraging women to stole half the man’s stuff when they’re bored – so, since I’m not bad at saving and managing my money and at investments, the risk isn’t worth the sacrifice (see the part about sexuality).
Regarding one-night stands: why not? If I don’t have to make efforts. I’m not going to make efforts to get sex with a condom, I already had a lot of one-night-stands in my 20s, a fleshlight is technically better, the good in one-night-stands is psychological satisfaction not physical pleasure but I don’t care anymore about such kind of psychological satisfaction.

You have an erection because you want a woman. No amount of intellectual thought will change that. I have said many times that for a lot of men the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. But some fully MGTOW men still choose to scratch the itch and they are not lesser MGTOW. If you believe that you haven’t understood what MGTOW is. Nor are they necessarily less red pilled. If you are not being with a woman because she is x or y or isn’t z then you are still clinging to some blue pilled notion of what you wish women were. I know exactly what women are but despite that they still bring relief to my life. F~~~ off to anyone attempting to shame me for that choice, I go my own way.

[Eric LauderParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

I believe your definition and interpretation are incorrect. If it was correct, then the likes of Barbarossa, HUMAN and other prominent MGTOW who have a woman in their lives would be “blue pill”. That would be completely ridiculous. There are also many prominent members here who have a girl. Are they also “blue pill”? I think not. The red pill is merely reality. And reality may well be that we have a deep seated need for a woman in some capacity (indeed I believe that much is self evident) and that for some men, life is better when they choose to be with one despite the risks. This cuts to the core of my original message.

If you live with a woman, then you’re either blue pill or trapped in a blue pill situation, it doesn’t matter if you’re Barbarossa or someone else.
But that’s just my opinion.

Anonymous wrote:

I doubt even so called monks can totally banish the need. Being a monk is a strategy to alleviate the urge. Fine if you can’t figure it out mate, it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid for some men. Personally I consider there are a lot lot of ‘monks’ who are actually blue pill because they are running scared of women. Note I said a lot of, not all.

I can’t speak for other men, but in my case my urge is what make me monk, it’s exactly because I have strong urges that being monk is far better than living with a woman.
Every morning I have an erection when I wake up. I had been married with a woman and also cohabited with another woman, I also had many other experiences but it doesn’t matter so much since I didn’t live with them – however even those experiences gave me some hints.
I KNOW that if I would live with a woman MOST mornings I couldn’t f~~~ her (I’m okay with that, her body her choice) NOR use a fleshlight (f~~~ off, that’s my body and my choice!), so sexually speaking living with a woman would be A SACRIFICE. Such sacrifice could be worthy if I would want children (I don’t want other kids, I already have kids) or if I would think that she can give me other benefits: benefits aren’t company or being loved (there are friends and kids for that) nor cooking and cleaning (that’s a joke, it’s not so much work, sometimes I even like to cook) but a good benefit it could be a person who is very able to save money, manage money and investments, and such person should also be someone who can be ABSOLUTELY trusted – women who are very able to manage, save and invest money are extremely rare, and they can’t be trusted, no matter how much good could be the person, due our laws and society actually encouraging women to stole half the man’s stuff when they’re bored – so, since I’m not bad at saving and managing my money and at investments, the risk isn’t worth the sacrifice (see the part about sexuality).
Regarding one-night stands: why not? If I don’t have to make efforts. I’m not going to make efforts to get sex with a condom, I already had a lot of one-night-stands in my 20s, a fleshlight is technically better, the good in one-night-stands is psychological satisfaction not physical pleasure but I don’t care anymore about such kind of psychological satisfaction.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Anonymous]

Eric Lauder wrote:

If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

I believe your definition and interpretation are incorrect. If it was correct, then the likes of Barbarossa, HUMAN and other prominent MGTOW who have a woman in their lives would be “blue pill”. That would be completely ridiculous. There are also many prominent members here who have a girl. Are they also “blue pill”? I think not. The red pill is merely reality. And reality may well be that we have a deep seated need for a woman in some capacity (indeed I believe that much is self evident) and that for some men, life is better when they choose to be with one despite the risks. This cuts to the core of my original message.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

(I post this every now and then, I wrote it a few years back)

Men Going Their Own Way

Credit to Stardusk (Thinking Ape) and Barbarossa for concepts herein
Hypergamy: Women are the limiting factor in reproduction.

If the population of women were suddenly decreased, we could face extinction due to the 9 month cycle women need to reproduce humans. If the numbers of men depleted in masse, we would not face this same threat of extinction. Because of the unique physical demand and time consuming burden that women face in reproduction, evolution in our species took a course to correct for the vulnerability of our survival. It’s evident that evolutionary biology played a role in shaping human psychology differently for each sex, so that females would be naturally favored as to ensure our survival. It stands to reason that hominids would not have survived if they weren’t looking after their weaker sex that was vulnerable during their 9 month reproduction cycles. It’s key to remember this helped hominids survive for millions of years.

Due to this evolved psychological survival mechanism, we can see that modern men to a fault, driven by a profound expression of ‘love,’ seek to protect and provide for women. This goes beyond the desire for sex, a survival tool itself. Men harbor naturally selected evo-psych traits to safeguard the species by protecting women who are a weak link in the species because they require considerable time to make new humans and can’t defend themselves well. Females on the other hand, have an equally powerful instinct driving their behavior which seeks to secure provisions and safety at all costs for themselves and their offspring.

We call this instinct in women, hypergamy. For millions of years it was crucial to our survival, but in a modern framework it causes extraordinary distress for men and society. It could be argued that the invention of marriage was an attempt to correct for hypergamy which plays out in a variety of ways that wreak havoc on social bonds between women and men. Also of note here, is that hypergamy is the reason why women show own group preference. Men do not have this natural urge to favor their own; they always favor women and children instead thus ensuring the survival of the species—evolutionary psychology.

For new people who stumble onto “MGTOW” you have likely already been polluted by a dozen different YouTube channels and have no idea what MGTOW is, why it is, and what it is. It’s asking for a miracle, for you to find this thread but here it is anyway.

Beyond the standard MGTOW.com definition, there is more to it.

Here the MGTOW.com definition which is fine and dandy:
Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else.

That’s great. For anyone needing more of a philosophical explanation about what is going on between men and women, I HIGHLY recommend hearing out the entire Stardusk Compilation. I’m sorry its 6 hours long but if there was ever one single MGTOW sandwich you could eat and be good, then this is it, the SOURCE code of MGTOW, along with some Barbarossa content. These two effectively kick-started the MODERN mgtow interest.

Stardusk Compilation (Thinking Ape)

Follow it up with this: Barbarossa

There are hundreds of other mgtow channels; some were instrumental in the formation of MODERN mgtow. Many of the producers moved on or seldom add content. Ask around here for additional seed content. We’re talking about the raw, pulp content…not all the new, fun mgtow channels that watered down the message or just rehashed old content. Yes, we still love those channels but if you’re new to mgtow, you need to know about certain content creators that came first, IN MY OPINION.

Below are some of MY favs. Some lost/deleted Messenger Rising *Fake Pregnancy: Serious Advice(edited to remove names) Some Spetsnaz Some Colttaine Some lost/forgotten ManWomanMyth

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP_5UYemwT2k_xJHTc-PARg

Any questions, just ask, there is more…..

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant]

xanthine wrote:

GravelPit wrote:

Badger wrote:

then refer them to MGTOW and Villar, Chinweizu, and Shannon

That’s the funny part about MGTOW, I have no idea who “Villar, Chinweizu, and Shannon” are. I got my foundation laid with Stardusk Compilation, some Barbarossa, Messenger Rising and Spetsnaz. Beyond that is a blur…. As long as the message is still concentrated and not being diluted, more power to ’em. I’m monk-mode myself, or as I sarcastically put it to some…MGTOW Classic son! LOL

Untamed wrote:

don’t happen to guys like him… Until they happen!

Amen to that Untamed, it’s like explaining algebra to a fish. They will think you’re an asshole for talking like that. THEN, 5 years later you see them and they say…”everything you told me was true, should’ve listened…” Happened so many times I don’t even bother.

But they always ask about my “love life” and why I’m not married. I just wave them off with a hearty laugh, “no way man, not me, don’t want to be tied down, love freedom….” Which is usually met with soft shaming about “being a man” and I say, “I’m happy you’re happy with a wife.. congrats…”

It’s funny as hell when people think you’re defective for being a 32 year old single guy, never married, no kids, no relationship in sight, no girlfriend, admitting 5 years celibate and talks like a ‘misogynist.’

They won’t be laughing or shaming me later when she pulls the trigger. No s~~~.

Screw it, let him find out the hard way then.

Being single in your 30’s (prime $$$ making years) is just smart. This is when all the c~~~s who spent their best years slutting around are looking for a sucker to pick up the tab for her lifetime of poor decisions and buy her all the s~~~ she is too lazy and entitled to work for herself. This is also when you will have the most freedom and resources to pursue your dreams and goals. What the f~~~ does a woman bring to the table? The ability to instantly ruin you financially? The ability to tie you down and prevent you from doing all those things? What the hell do any of them have to offer?

Anyone who wants to shame me for being a single never married guy with no kids in my 30’s can f~~~ right off. I’ll be ready for retirement right around the time they get divorced, lose their family, house, and entire net worth, and have to start over from scratch while paying child support to a greedy bitch for the next 18 years. We’ll see who feels like less of a man then.

Those guys will be asking you to crash on your couch when the s~~~ hits the fan. Sorry, warned you!

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[xanthineParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Badger wrote:

then refer them to MGTOW and Villar, Chinweizu, and Shannon

That’s the funny part about MGTOW, I have no idea who “Villar, Chinweizu, and Shannon” are. I got my foundation laid with Stardusk Compilation, some Barbarossa, Messenger Rising and Spetsnaz. Beyond that is a blur…. As long as the message is still concentrated and not being diluted, more power to ’em. I’m monk-mode myself, or as I sarcastically put it to some…MGTOW Classic son! LOL

Untamed wrote:

don’t happen to guys like him… Until they happen!

Amen to that Untamed, it’s like explaining algebra to a fish. They will think you’re an asshole for talking like that. THEN, 5 years later you see them and they say…”everything you told me was true, should’ve listened…” Happened so many times I don’t even bother.

But they always ask about my “love life” and why I’m not married. I just wave them off with a hearty laugh, “no way man, not me, don’t want to be tied down, love freedom….” Which is usually met with soft shaming about “being a man” and I say, “I’m happy you’re happy with a wife.. congrats…”

It’s funny as hell when people think you’re defective for being a 32 year old single guy, never married, no kids, no relationship in sight, no girlfriend, admitting 5 years celibate and talks like a ‘misogynist.’

They won’t be laughing or shaming me later when she pulls the trigger. No s~~~.

Screw it, let him find out the hard way then.

Being single in your 30’s (prime $$$ making years) is just smart. This is when all the c~~~s who spent their best years slutting around are looking for a sucker to pick up the tab for her lifetime of poor decisions and buy her all the s~~~ she is too lazy and entitled to work for herself. This is also when you will have the most freedom and resources to pursue your dreams and goals. What the f~~~ does a woman bring to the table? The ability to instantly ruin you financially? The ability to tie you down and prevent you from doing all those things? What the hell do any of them have to offer?

Anyone who wants to shame me for being a single never married guy with no kids in my 30’s can f~~~ right off. I’ll be ready for retirement right around the time they get divorced, lose their family, house, and entire net worth, and have to start over from scratch while paying child support to a greedy bitch for the next 18 years. We’ll see who feels like less of a man then.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Badger wrote:

then refer them to MGTOW and Villar, Chinweizu, and Shannon

That’s the funny part about MGTOW, I have no idea who “Villar, Chinweizu, and Shannon” are. I got my foundation laid with Stardusk Compilation, some Barbarossa, Messenger Rising and Spetsnaz. Beyond that is a blur…. As long as the message is still concentrated and not being diluted, more power to ’em. I’m monk-mode myself, or as I sarcastically put it to some…MGTOW Classic son! LOL

Untamed wrote:

don’t happen to guys like him… Until they happen!

Amen to that Untamed, it’s like explaining algebra to a fish. They will think you’re an asshole for talking like that. THEN, 5 years later you see them and they say…”everything you told me was true, should’ve listened…” Happened so many times I don’t even bother.

But they always ask about my “love life” and why I’m not married. I just wave them off with a hearty laugh, “no way man, not me, don’t want to be tied down, love freedom….” Which is usually met with soft shaming about “being a man” and I say, “I’m happy you’re happy with a wife.. congrats…”

It’s funny as hell when people think you’re defective for being a 32 year old single guy, never married, no kids, no relationship in sight, no girlfriend, admitting 5 years celibate and talks like a ‘misogynist.’

They won’t be laughing or shaming me later when she pulls the trigger. No s~~~.

Lübeck is a major port city in Schleswig-Holstein, northern Germany. Located on the Trave river it was the leading city of the Hanseatic League, and because of its extensive Brick Gothic architecture, it is listed by UNESCO as a World Heritage Site. The old part of Lübeck is on an island enclosed by the Trave. The Elbe–Lübeck Canal connects the Trave with the Elbe River.

Humans settled in the area of Lübeck after the last Ice Age ended about 9700 BCE. Several Neolithic dolmens can be found in the area. Around AD 700, Slavic peoples started moving into the eastern parts of Holstein, an area previously settled by Germanic inhabitants; the latter had moved on in the course of the Migration Period. Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor 800–814), whose efforts to Christianise the area were opposed by the Germanic Saxons, expelled many of the Saxons and brought in Polabian Slavs allies. Liubice (the place-name means “lovely”) was founded on the banks of the River Trave about four kilometers (2.5 miles) north of the present-day city-center of Lübeck. In the 10th century it became the most important settlement of the Obotrite confederacy and a castle was built. In 1128 the pagan Rani from Rügen razed Liubice.

In 1143 Adolf II, Count of Schauenburg and Holstein, founded the modern town as a German settlement on the river island of Bucu. He built a new castle, first mentioned by the chronicler Helmold as existing in 1147. Adolf had to cede the castle to the Duke of Saxony, Henry the Lion, in 1158. After Henry’s fall from power in 1181 the town became an Imperial city for eight years.[citation needed] Emperor Barbarossa (reigned 1152–1190) ordained that the city should have a ruling council of twenty members. With the council dominated by merchants, pragmatic trade interests shaped Lübeck’s politics for centuries. The council survived into the 19th century. The town and castle changed ownership for a period afterwards and formed part of the Duchy of Saxony until 1192, of the County of Holstein until 1217, and of the kingdom of Denmark until the Battle of Bornhöved in 1227.

Around 1200 the port became the main point of departure for colonists leaving for the Baltic territories conquered by the Livonian Order and, later, by the Teutonic Order. In 1226 Emperor Frederick II elevated the town to the status of an Imperial Free City, by which it became the Free City of Lübeck. In the 14th century Lübeck became the “Queen of the Hanseatic League”, being by far the largest and most powerful member of that medieval trade organization. In 1375 Emperor Charles IV named Lübeck one of the five “Glories of the Empire”, a title shared with Venice, Rome, Pisa and Florence. Several conflicts about trading privileges resulted in fighting between Lübeck (with the Hanseatic League) and Denmark and Norway – with varying outcome. While Lübeck and the Hanseatic League prevailed in conflicts in 1435 and 1512, Lübeck lost when it became involved in the Count’s Feud, a civil war that raged in Denmark from 1534 to 1536. Lübeck also joined the pro-Lutheran Schmalkaldic League of the mid-16th century After its defeat in the Count’s Feud, Lübeck’s power slowly declined. The city remained neutral in the Thirty Years’ War of 1618–1648, but the combination of the devastation from the decades-long war and the new transatlantic orientation of European trade caused the Hanseatic League – and thus Lübeck with it – to decline in importance. However, even after the de facto disbanding of the Hanseatic League in 1669, Lübeck still remained an important trading town on the Baltic Sea.

And so why all this reminiscence? The Marienkirche was a central feature of of the city. The main organ in the church dated from 1377 but the Church was also home to the “Totantanz” organ. And instrument of great renown. The Dance macabre organ (Totentanzorgel) was installed in 1477 on the east side of the north arm of the “transept” in the Danse Macabre Chapel (so named because of the Danse Macabre painting that hung there) and was used for the musical accompaniment of the requiem masses that were celebrated there. After the Church Reformation it was used for prayers and for Holy Communion services. In 1549 and 1558 Jakob Scherer added to the organ among other things, a chair organ (Rückpositiv), and in 1621 a chest division was added. Friedrich Stellwagen also carried out extensive repairs from 1653 to 1655. Thereafter, only minor changes were made. For this reason, this organ, together with the Arp Schnitger organ in St. James’ Church in Hamburg and the Stellwagen Organ in St. James’ Church (de) in Lübeck, attracted the interest of organ experts in connection with the Orgelbewegung. The disposition (de) of the organ was changed back to what it had been in the 17th century. But, like the Danse Macabre organ, this organ was also destroyed Palm Sunday 1942.

For those interested in the whole Danse Macabre/totentanz thing see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danse_Macabre

The organists of this Church were also men of frame, Franz Tunder, and Dietrich Buxtuhude. Bach, Handle and Bruhns had all traveled to Lubeck at one time or another to play this instrument. Tonight’s recording was made on the original 1477 instrument in 1941 as part of a radio broadcast some six months before the RAF fire bombed the city Palm Sunday 1942 and destroying most of the church and the organ. The RAF admitted that the city was of little military value but since most of the building and structures were made of wood it seemed a good target for fire-bombing. The accompanying video is really interesting from a historical point of view and takes us through the bombing and into the present. So enough of the history lesson lets get on with the music and the video.

Track list:
0:00 Nicolaus Bruhns “Little” Praeludium in E minor
5:16 Dietrich Buxtehude Praeludium in C, BuxWV 137
10:55 Dietrich Buxtehude Toccata in D minor, BuxWV 155

[Diamond DogParticipant]

Santiago wrote:

Anyway… Hi! Glad to have found this group… and please be gentle. I don’t know where on the scale of “pathetic” I fall compared to others here, but I figure that, to myself… it’s pretty bad.

You’re better than the average idiot who stays in Blue Pill La La Land.

Anonymous wrote:

Find a way to honor yourself & live off your last best decision, then good choices will accumulate & suddenly you will find yourself self in a whole new space.
Thanks for posting.
This can be your new beginning.
Read other intros.
You are not alone
You are/will b OK
MGTOW is real FREEDOM

Johnny Zero is correct as this can be a new beginning for you. Read, post and learn all you can on here and watch Mgtow related content on Youtube. I’d recommend Turd Flinging Monkey, Barbarossa, or Sandman. There is a whole bunch more Mgtow creators I haven’t mentioned that you can find on this website. Just click on sections and then channels. Welcome aboard!

Don't be a "provider" unless you are providing for yourself.

This theme is inspired by one of the most recent Barbarossa’s video, available on link:

Where I’ve been

At latter part of abovementioned video, Barbarossa explains, along with future plans and strategies, his intention to hire MGTOW to help him in his content creation.

What interested me then is the question: how exactly he would be able to do that?

I look at this general question as on part of a bigger task to create men-only working environments, whereas likeminded men, MGTOW might be able to pursue their own ways without interference of women as much as possible. Least to say it would be good!

Although I anticipate some shift in today’s working environments due to #metoo gestapo-alike witch hunt, this men-only working spaces seems to me quite difficult to create.

Here is the list of difficulties, which instantly comes to my mind:

How exactly one should advertise a job vacancy?

How to screen the MGTOW from anybody else?

How to avoid fines for absence of women if this issue would become visible to government?

How to ghost in legal field of misandry, whereas you and you colleagues would be aware of the fact that you and your colleagues are MGTOW?

How to co-op properly without primitive blue-pill s~~~ in instinctive forms of domination/sexual reproduction/survival?

I truly believe that creation of men-only workplace is possible. I know it was done in the past, in can be realized in the future. That’s why I’m looking at these questions as on sub-tasks, temporary difficulties on a way to goal. Who knows, maybe somebody around the world has already implemented it in today’s society?

I would be really glad to know your thoughts on these themes, gentlemen.

Any of your insights would be much appreciated. Cheers, RD.

I run a small shop. 2 years ago this young man was in the neighborhood, drinking a lot and always with a woman on his arm. He was carefree.

A few weeks later he asked me for some money. Said that his woman had thrown him out of his apartment. He was smelling like vodka and all miserable.

That is when I gave him the ol’ MGTOW redpill advice. I was 3 years into my own Monkhood and Sobriety. I tried to tell him about Stardusk and Barbarossa. Told him about the migtau dot com. Tried to explain that there was nothing in it for him to be tangling with those women. Only risk.

Well, two years later; guess who shows up to tell me I was right. He spent two years of his existence in a Texas pen. All it takes is one phone call gentlemen.

No s~~~! Some people think this is a game on YouTube for popularity and subs. They think its a boys club for immature grown men. They think it’s a sympathy group for virgins and involuntarily celibate ugly guys.

MGTOW saves lives and keeps men out of prison. Anylurkers reading this. There is no excuse, you were exposed to MGTOW. You had the tools available to inform yourself what can happen when you go picking up women and living for pussy.

All it takes is a six pack of beer and a woman in your home. She only has to dial 3 digits on her phone. You will be in handcuffs and may not see the light of day for years.

This guy got off relatively easy. Imagine child support and accusations of rape to accompany your misery in jail.

Some may think this is hyperbole. Is it? Do the statistics suggest you’re the lucky one? Just sharing some of my experience today.

I’m not saying you should give up drinking, or that you should give up women. I’m saying that you are taking a risk.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

OldBill wrote:

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

Churchill came to power LONG before the Barbarossa Campaign.

Thirteen months. May of ’40 to June of ’41.

He rallied the British to fight it out, and hoped to god for a turn of events.

Yup, that’s why I wrote: “What Churchill did was keep the war going long enough for first the Russians and later the US to join that war. If in 1940 the UK had sued for and received the “white peace” Germany was offering, the war would have ended before the Russians could join.”

Thirteen months is an enternity when your country is under siege. My point was it would have made a big difference in history if some pussy was in charge of the UK…thus, props to Churchill.

I think we agree 100%. Western history is distorted. In the West, we are taught that the Western Allies won the war. That d-day won the war. 100% false. The war was already over by then – the Russians won, as you said, not even up for debate. The western front was a side show. WW2 in Europe was Nazi Germany vs. Soviet Union. We agree on this because it is a fact.

If the UK had a “Trudeau” in power, the west would have capitulated. Russia still would have won the war most likely, but the course of history would have changed. That’s why I give Churchill his props. He didn’t “beat” Nazi Germany lol. No…the west could not have defeated the Nazis without the East.

I missed your other statement – re: Churchill holding on – on my first read – my bad. Agreed.

The answer, is no.

[OldBillParticipant]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

Churchill came to power LONG before the Barbarossa Campaign.

Thirteen months. May of ’40 to June of ’41.

He rallied the British to fight it out, and hoped to god for a turn of events.

Yup, that’s why I wrote: “What Churchill did was keep the war going long enough for first the Russians and later the US to join that war. If in 1940 the UK had sued for and received the “white peace” Germany was offering, the war would have ended before the Russians could join.”

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

I agree with old bill for the most part. The Russians won WW2.

However…

Churchill came to power LONG before the Barbarossa Campaign. He was the first in the West to say f~~~ you to Hitler and stand his ground. This cannot be overstated or underestimated. Nazi Germany was the preeminent power in Europe at the time. The UK was massively overextended. Churchill told them to go f~~~ themselves. He rallied the British to fight it out, and hoped to god for a turn of events.

History provided Churchill these turn of events (Hitler invades the Soviet Union as planned in Mein Kampf…then the Japanese attack Pearl Harbour resulting in Hitler declaring war on the USA).

He was exactly the right man, at exactly the right time. He saved Western civilization.

I’m sure he’d be proud now (/sarc).

The answer, is no.

[OldBillParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

That’s pretty interesting Old Bill, thanks for posting. Weren’t all the Nazi airplanes running on American oil? I thought I heard that somewhere, where us American businessmen were making a killing off selling airplane oil to Germany (hence not entering the war sooner lol).

No, nothing of the kind. Even before 1939, the Germans got most of their oil from the USSR and Eastern Europe. The Soviets were still shipping oil to Germany for nearly a week after Barbarossa kicked off in ’41.

After war in Europe broke out in ’39, exports to all belligerents were greatly constrained under the Neutrality Acts. Those acts didn’t effect various sales and licensing agreements already in place. IBM had sold Germany punch card systems in the 30s which were used to keep track of concentration camp inmates among other things. Similarly, US oil companies licensed the production of additives necessary for high performance aviation fuels to German companies.

Global trade, business, and markets created the situation and not the “herp derp gonna help the Nazis” thinking many simpletons believe. There are many other examples of this economic “interconnection” both in WW2 and across history. During WW1, for example, UK shells were manufactured using a fuse design licensed from Krupp in Germany. The license had been sold before WW1 and the UK manufacturers paid the fee up until the war began. When war broke out, they banked the fees rather than send checks to Essen. After the war, Krupp tried to recover the money and was told to f~~~ off.

This topic is very complicated. If you’re interested in it, a good one volume treatment is Adam Tooze’s The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy. It’s a good book to start with and it’s bibliography can point you to other, more specialized, works.

Well, we didn’t enter sooner also because FDR was a nancy boy who preferred to watch France fall rather than lift a finger, what a smeghead.

Not in the slightest. While FDR was one of worst presidents, he strenuously worked for an earlier intervention from the beginning. Congress, acts like the one I mentioned above, and public opinion tied his hands. His administration even had trouble preparing for the war everyone knew was coming. In November of ’41 Congress, for example, reauthorized the draft by only 2 votes.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[FreyParticipant]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Is your thesis basically that we shouldn’t waste time trying to explain the red pill to most people? If so, I can agree with that. Some people are too thick, some too stubborn, some can’t be convinced by arguments and need gynocentrism to rape them in the ass several times over before they get it, and others will never swallow it no matter what happens (namely, the white knight types who would give their lives for the holy vagina).

I recall hearing Barbarossa say that the red pill simply isn’t for everyone. For one reason or another, some people just aren’t able to digest it. So yes, I keep my “mansplaining” to a minimum, and you can be sure I’d never even consider trying to explain red pill to a female. But once in a blue moon, you meet someone who seems just open minded enough, and then I’ll mansplain to my heart’s content.

Read me like a book.

Coincidentally, part of what motivated me to revisit this topic was because of how a fellow friend of mine recently tried to red pill his close friends.

They were blue pulled fellows as far as I understand, naturally the situation backfired.

I wasn’t too surprised at the outcome but it did get me thinking a man’s generosity can potentially be his own worst enemy so to speak.

The might of masculinity has been lying dormant for quite some time. But as the cycle of life comes full circle, history shall come to repeat itself. We have fallen, and thus, we shall rise again.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Is your thesis basically that we shouldn’t waste time trying to explain the red pill to most people? If so, I can agree with that. Some people are too thick, some too stubborn, some can’t be convinced by arguments and need gynocentrism to rape them in the ass several times over before they get it, and others will never swallow it no matter what happens (namely, the white knight types who would give their lives for the holy vagina).

I recall hearing Barbarossa say that the red pill simply isn’t for everyone. For one reason or another, some people just aren’t able to digest it. So yes, I keep my “mansplaining” to a minimum, and you can be sure I’d never even consider trying to explain red pill to a female. But once in a blue moon, you meet someone who seems just open minded enough, and then I’ll mansplain to my heart’s content.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

I once found YouTube useful, for car repairs, knowledge for camera techniques etc, as well as mgtow content, loved Barbarossa, stardusk, spetsnaz, TFM and even Sandman, miss some of Niko Choskis early work, his video entitled “to the sleeping man” was one of my first intros to MGTOW. If you can find it, highly suggest it.

However after watching TFMs latest video and the hoops he is jumping through to keep his channel open it’s obvious what YouTubes game plan is and it’s time for mgtow content creators to move on to another platform. Not sure what that would be, but youtube hates MGTOW.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."