Stop MGTOW becoming a cult

[Anonymous 38]

MGTOW.com is fast-becoming become a self-congratulatory club for men who’ve sworn off women. Observations about women get shouted down with “I don’t care about women”, unless you’re a long-standing member and then it’s often a different response. Men are called “fools” for merely being with a woman in any capacity, despite many of our members doing the same. It is like there is a small sect of ‘true MGTOW’ who don’t consider you real MGTOW unless you’ve gone monk.

This leaves men who still want to fulfill their carnal desires feeling like they don’t belong here, but neither do they belong to some PUA or trad con forum either.

This shouting down of knowledge of female nature is anti-learning.
Instead we see endless linking posts to articles and videos by men who apparently are ‘totally red pill’. But who clearly are not nearly as NFG as they claim to be. Otherwise why the endless linking to s~~~ we already know.

There is no acknowledgement that there are women who do not fit the mold of your typical nasty gold-digging c~~~. I know not whether this is because the situation in the USA is really bad or because the men have never experienced a good woman. Saying “ALL women are bad” is pretty pathetic. It is totally wrong and intellectually dishonest. It is no better than being one of those women that swear ALL men are bad.

Some of us have experienced good women. And while it’s not worked out, it wasn’t always because we were ‘f~~~ed over’. So you want to live life completely on your own terms – fine. But to say that reciprocal relationships don’t exist is plain false.

I expect this to be quite a controversial post. But MGTOW.com has changed lately and I don’t like what it’s turning into. It used to be more supportive, more about learning. It was never an elitist club for MGTOW monks, which is what it seems to have become. That and a repository for linking to trite posts about all and sundry in the blue pill world. Yawn.

I advocate the red pill in everything. That includes calling out what I see as the slow disintegration of MGTOW.com because men who don’t fit the narrative are deemed not worthy.

A lot of guys, MGTOW included, will seek to pair bond or have short-term casual relationships. MGTOW here would do well to remember what the acronym stands for, and not to act superior to men who aren’t as monk-like as themselves.

To lurkers and newer members, never be afraid to post your own truth. The moment we become too afraid to risk the wrath of the group, is the moment we realize that this group is probably not worth being part of.

[Anonymous 43]

do what you want, what works for you may not work for me. no one is giving you s~~~ for what you want to do.

mgtow is about making rational choices based on good information. if getting your doinkus wet is a good fit for you, great. good luck with that amigo.

[Anonymous 12]

Sooo…

NAWALT?

go ahead, risk “the Call”.
Your path.
We laugh.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Anonymous wrote:

do what you want, what works for you may not work for me. no one is giving you s~~~ for what you want to do.

mgtow is about making rational choices based on good information. if getting your doinkus wet is a good fit for you, great. good luck with that amigo.

Exactly. As the sociology-political and cultural climate of society changes, those that go MGTOW will change to adapt to their altering situations.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

To lurkers and newer members, never be afraid to post your own truth. The moment we become too afraid to risk the wrath of the group, is the moment we realize that this group is probably not worth being part of.

We had/have a few trolls here that tried to shut up every opinion that they did not like.

You are basically repeating what Old Sage/Heyoka was stating:

“This has become a club of Monks and I am no longer part of it”.

And I get “called out” (LOL) by “the smartest of the monk-clan” for any and every sexual joke I make.

Well, these inside trolls were very effective in running off “thinking” members who then realize that “they have better things to do” and stop posting.

The inner trolls exploited the fact that KM was not here to put some limits on them.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 43]

mgtow is not a cult. stop stirring up garbage like this.

a cult has a leader. mgtow has no leader, we go our own way. members of a cult are not allowed to leave. this mgtow thing is voluntary, f~~~, that goof sparky has left the site 19 times in the past week.

also a cult requires all the money a member has. $5 a month for the site is not a cult thing.

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

I read the post quick, and I thought it said, “Stop MGTOW becoming a c~~~”, and I thought that this one should be good. LOL LOL

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

Fulfilling your carnal desires is fine, there is nothing wrong with that. But believing you’ve found some unicorn and ignoring the tenets of MGTOW is a potentially life-altering mistake. In a nutshell, the most basic tenets are:

1. Do not marry
2. Do not impregnate
3. Do not cohabitate

Basically, you always want to have an escape, and never become trapped. And ideally, you want to minimize your other risks as well, which means you have to be aware of all the possible ways a woman can ruin your life. I’m talking about false rape/abuse accusations, lying about birth control or intentionally getting pregnant, committing paternity fraud, calling the cops on you, physically attacking you, stealing from you, lying about you on social media or behind your back, so on and so on.

We talk about these issues on this site because they are happening every day and destroying good men’s lives. And if you don’t know about it, or you choose to ignore it because you think you’ve found someone special, it could easily happen to you. It is important to be aware of female nature and keep your defenses up at all times if you choose to engage them, because not doing so for even one instant could be a potentially life altering or even fatal mistake.

Not all women are bad…but ALL women have the potential to ruin your life. And in most cases, they could do it quite easily.

Personally, i am not the strongest MGTOW. I do occasionally have moments of weakness or loneliness. That is why I need daily reminders of what females are capable of. I need to hear the stories of all the men who have had their lives destroyed, so i don’t let it happen to me. And i think that is why most people on this site won’t encourage you to date or have relationships with women, because many of us ended up here only AFTER finding out the hard way just what they are capable of.

So if you do choose to date, f~~~, have relationships, whatever, by all means do it, but do not expect a ton of support and encouragement from this site, and heed our warnings. NEVER use condoms that she has had access to. NEVER cum inside her or believe her when she says she is on birth control, cant get pregnant, etc. Do not give her a key to your place or let her move in. Do not give her access to your cash, bank account, or finances of any kind. They will stab you in the back when you least expect it, and it will be completely devastating when they do. Be smart, protect yourself at all times, and stay safe.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

One thing is for sure and this is my take on why we are becoming a monk society:

Things have changed since 2016, when I joined.

Politically, the gender war went on to new heights.

Things like #metoo made sexual encounters dangerous to any man’s well being and career.

“The phone call” removal of men from their own homes has also become so much a part of every day reality that even radio commercials are now featuring it.

This website has changed because the world has changed for the worse.

We simply reflect our personal consequences and our new life decisions (based upon updated facts) – in what we post here.

And the only real and SAFE consequence a man can draw from the current political climate is going Monk.

Politics have turned this place into a monk club by tightening the war on men.

Things like the Fox News “War on men” series with Tucker Carlson are proof of what’s going on.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 12]

It’s not that I am forcing myself to avoid women, it’s just when that Red Pill takes hold it is hard to see them as pleasant creatures to be around. In other words they are not attractive to me.

Not to mention the risks with interacting with them are just too high.

But if another man wants to play Russian Roulette with 5 out of 6 barrels loaded that is his business.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Saying “ALL women are bad” is pretty pathetic. It is totally wrong and intellectually dishonest. It is no better than being one of those women that swear ALL men are bad.

I think you are still in the bargaining phase amigo…Plus, the point here is not about woman but about focusing on yourself and what you want in life…We are just voices that shared our experiences and found out AWALT…If you want to risk it, no one is stopping you…Go find that unicorn in this day and age…I sincerely wish you luck in this endeavor…

As for me, it is a bitter realization that AWALT…Once, I was a blue pilled idiot who dreamed the same things you did…My world was turned upside down by the unicorns and coming here made sense of everything that happened…It was spot on…

I hated the fact that I am awake and I could no longer look at a beautiful woman the same way…Now I have to find my own happiness, my own validation…It is a massive paradigm shift that I am slowly overcoming…The old guys knew it…Now I know what the older guys were saying to me when I was young to live “MY” life…Go back to the plantation and find that unicorn…Sometimes, you have to learn things the hard way…Good luck amigo with the bargaining…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[Anonymous 42]

I love pussy but hate headaches! Both heads can’t be satisfied at the same time! It’s one or the other! Be careful how you choose, the little head always gets you in trouble whereas the big head keeps you safe, happy, and secure!

Tough choice for some, but for me it’s a no brainer! Relationships run me down and wear me out! No thanks! To each his own.

Cults have leaders, who is the alleged leader of this renegade band of Monks you speak about?

[Anonymous 1]

I don’t think its a cult. Maybe NAWALT works for you. If you are lucky and find some extreme outlier on the probability curve. Good for you, but be careful either way.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOW included, will seek to pair bond

Jesus h christ is this for real or a wind up?

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

We see that in the rising member counts…

33,000 as of yesterday – if anyone noticed…

…that we are “right on reality” and speak what attracts new men to this site.

The monk-dom among men is currently spreading like a wildfire and all of this is not of our own making.

Soon, the PUA communities will have problems with men getting #metoo-ed and drop out. Then their posts will become “more careful” and “monk-ish” as a result.

Why don’t we call it “Monks Going Their Own Way”?

Women nowadays are so possessive and controlling that men who want to retain control of their lives will almost be forced to lead a monk life.

Or to put it in different words:

Once you live a life under your own control most women will run out on you and all of her hive(s) will follow suit… And you’ll end up monk. Or move to some place to start over…

One thing leads to another.

But we are not here to judge men who manage this “balance act” of dealing with women while still staying in control of their lives.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[It’sallbsParticipant]

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http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Anonymous 18]

Anonymous wrote:

There is no acknowledgement that there are women who do not fit the mold of your typical nasty gold-digging c~~~.

Anonymous wrote:

Saying “ALL women are bad” is pretty pathetic.

Anonymous wrote:

Some of us have experienced good women. And while it’s not worked out

The hind brain in all of us will want to stick it inside a moist wet hole. Time to time.

There shouldn’t be a doubt that going monk is the highest of achievements even among MGTOW men. Akin to people who are exceptional in their fields, being a monk and rising above one’s carnal desire is a goal for ALL men to aspire to.

I try and fail.

AWALT. You were essentially in a oneitis period. Despite that it didn’t work out.

There is a lot of sense in man chasing pussy. But the idea of MGTOW is beyond seeking female companionship for one’s validation/killing boredom/seeking meaning.

If that MGTOW sentiment is cult-like, then gravity, DNA replication, disease pathology, or its subsequent treatment could all be labelled as cult-like.

The truth doesn’t have versions.

AWALT. Monk > Man seeking women for *insert why*.

But I understand why men seek women and sex knowing the folly that is women-kind. I seldom engage in it too and always regret not killing the blue pill longings at the roots.

[Anonymous 6]

Wait, so a guy who’s complaining about others says they don’t fit MGTOW is saying that others don’t fit MGTOW?

[TrapperParticipant 2912]

I’m one here who isn’t monk… yet. A big part of it is my location. The biggest event in my little town is a rodeo. There’s still a strong sense of family in this tiny place.

That said, most women here still feel social pressure to fake it.

Don’t misunderstand, I have no interest in a long term anything. I’ve worked to hard to risk what I’ve earned.

Crazy horse chicks are the standard here. I’ll be the first to admit they look good in tight jeans and a roll in the hay occasionally occurs. They just don’t look nearly as good in my house or bank accounts.

Fortunately they seem to have short attention spans and I spend most of my time out of state.

I personally can’t stand dating. I hate having my days planned and endless growing expectations. Not for me. I have my own damn plans!

[It’sallbsParticipant]

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NerdTunneler wrote:

was a blue pilled idiot who dreamed the same things you did

Exactly.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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