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    Anonymous
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    REDUNDANT

    Hold on Taoist…
    look at the word “redundant”, that oen is key here.

    There is a man who has a woman in his life. she is essential.

    There is a man who has a woman in his life. she is not essential/redundant.

    The first one is closer to the blue pill than the second.
    The first one needs his woman, the second one does not need her.

    The second one, he can walk away from his woman any time, because he does not need her.
    He knows he does not need her.
    Whether he DOES walk away or his own way is not told, just that he has the ability.

    ========================
    Conclusion:
    He who has a redundant woman in his life, can go his own way.

    Whether he does is a question for another day.

    #817147
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    Monk
    Monk
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    16979

    There is no acknowledgement that there are women who do not fit the mold of your typical nasty gold-digging c~~~.

    I know not whether this is because the situation in the USA is really bad or because the men have never experienced a good woman. Saying “ALL women are bad” is pretty pathetic. It is totally wrong and intellectually dishonest.

    […]

    Some of us have experienced good women. And while it’s not worked out, it wasn’t always because we were ‘f~~~ed over’. So you want to live life completely on your own terms – fine. But to say that reciprocal relationships don’t exist is plain false.

    This is the NAWALT position.

    I suspect that the writer has adopted it out of desperation. I understand the desire for a relationship, family, and so forth. It is a natural urge, after all.

    However, NAWALT is nonsense, as women are hardwired for hypergamy and betrayal. There are by definition no ‘good women’, only ones who are kept within bounds.

    #817178
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    MrMe
    MrMe
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    651

    I like you MGTaoist. You make alot of sense as usual. Good post.

    #817211
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    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    12043

    If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
    I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

    I believe your definition and interpretation are incorrect. If it was correct, then the likes of Barbarossa, HUMAN and other prominent MGTOW who have a woman in their lives would be “blue pill”. That would be completely ridiculous. There are also many prominent members here who have a girl. Are they also “blue pill”? I think not. The red pill is merely reality. And reality may well be that we have a deep seated need for a woman in some capacity (indeed I believe that much is self evident) and that for some men, life is better when they choose to be with one despite the risks. This cuts to the core of my original message.

    If you live with a woman, then you’re either blue pill or trapped in a blue pill situation, it doesn’t matter if you’re Barbarossa or someone else.
    But that’s just my opinion.

    I doubt even so called monks can totally banish the need. Being a monk is a strategy to alleviate the urge. Fine if you can’t figure it out mate, it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid for some men. Personally I consider there are a lot lot of ‘monks’ who are actually blue pill because they are running scared of women. Note I said a lot of, not all.

    I can’t speak for other men, but in my case my urge is what make me monk, it’s exactly because I have strong urges that being monk is far better than living with a woman.
    Every morning I have an erection when I wake up. I had been married with a woman and also cohabited with another woman, I also had many other experiences but it doesn’t matter so much since I didn’t live with them – however even those experiences gave me some hints.
    I KNOW that if I would live with a woman MOST mornings I couldn’t f~~~ her (I’m okay with that, her body her choice) NOR use a fleshlight (f~~~ off, that’s my body and my choice!), so sexually speaking living with a woman would be A SACRIFICE. Such sacrifice could be worthy if I would want children (I don’t want other kids, I already have kids) or if I would think that she can give me other benefits: benefits aren’t company or being loved (there are friends and kids for that) nor cooking and cleaning (that’s a joke, it’s not so much work, sometimes I even like to cook) but a good benefit it could be a person who is very able to save money, manage money and investments, and such person should also be someone who can be ABSOLUTELY trusted – women who are very able to manage, save and invest money are extremely rare, and they can’t be trusted, no matter how much good could be the person, due our laws and society actually encouraging women to stole half the man’s stuff when they’re bored – so, since I’m not bad at saving and managing my money and at investments, the risk isn’t worth the sacrifice (see the part about sexuality).
    Regarding one-night stands: why not? If I don’t have to make efforts. I’m not going to make efforts to get sex with a condom, I already had a lot of one-night-stands in my 20s, a fleshlight is technically better, the good in one-night-stands is psychological satisfaction not physical pleasure but I don’t care anymore about such kind of psychological satisfaction.

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    #817218
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    Ranger One
    Ranger One
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    16836

    One thing is for sure and this is my take on why we are becoming a monk society:

    Things have changed since 2016, when I joined.

    Politically, the gender war went on to new heights.

    If I hadn’t gotten 2 gf’s in January 2017, I would probably be monk now. If and when the remaining gf leaves (or does something stupid like cheating), then I’ll be a monk.

    It took me 6 months to get 2 gf’s in the last half of 2016… too much time and energy. I would have said too much money, but I really didn’t spend all that much money, especially towards the last 3 months because I was a lot smarter and more efficient. (1st date at Starbucks or hiking)

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #817307
    +1
    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    The EXCEPTION proves the rule. No one is saying there isn’t a good woman for you out there. But you will be injured trying to find her.

    #817324
    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    At best you might be able to call it a club

    I agree, and to add to it.

    MGTOW is filled to the brim with different sorts of men, their politics, their philosophy/religion. Many of the views are totally contradictory. We’re not unified at all. Our only unity is our disunity.

    You’ve got Xtians and Atheists, you’ve got Liberals and Alt Righters, Blacks and Whites, rich men, poor men, high IQ and dumb as a doorknob. We’ve got lunatics and visionaries here, doctors and scum scrappers. We’ve got PUAs, confused teens, married ol’timers and guys paying down child support.

    You’re free to ask a woman out and have a merry time. In fact, I encourage it, much like a sober guy will tell a bare knuckle drunk, “just go drink.” Just f~~~ing do it. Go see.

    This is why I always say, MGTOW is not a destination, its a journey. NO ONE walks into MGTOW thinking ‘AWALT & monk forever,’ it takes HEAVY indecision and argument and even going back out to test the water. My last date/relations~~~ was in 2013. I knew all about the MGTOW, even then. I still tried to make it work.

    Just like AA ruins your drinking. MGTOW ruins your dating. You can’t unsee it. There is no going back. Go ahead and be p~~~ed off about that for awhile. Its okay. That is what Spetsnaz videos are for.

    MGTOW ruins dating because the truth cant be argued with, when its right in your face and you realize this was going on long before you ever even heard about it.

    #817345
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    for some men, life is better when they choose to be with one despite the risks. This cuts to the core of my original message.

    Some men think life is better when they use heroin daily too. There aint much difference. She triggers a chemical release in your brain.

    NAWALT’s do indeed exist. As one guy was saying about his small town out in the countryside, or in more traditional pockets of society. I’ve even met certain mountain women born and raised in Montana in other isolated places that display genuine virtues. I’d marry one in a heartbeat but good luck chasing one of those wild mustangs down pal.

    I’ve also met many older women, post-55 years age who ‘get it.’ And despite their neurotic hysterics which occur in brief intervals, most the time they are as lucid and as a rational 35 year old male. I’d also marry one of them if it wasn’t for the fact that they’re twice my age…it’s a bit too taboo for my tastes.

    What I’m trying to say is. They are out there, there is not denying it. You’re free to go rope one in. Let us know how it works out. I do not mean that sarcastically. I’m genuinely hoping you will achieve something few men can.

    As for me, I’m done chasing. Done searching. Done being hurt. Done believing a lie.

    Those pussy addicts like Barbar, Human, Spetsnaz and Colttaine. Some of those guys are studs, lets face it. They got used to being able to pick up women easily. They worked that young pussy into their schedule and they have conditioned themselves to need it. Its a f~~~ing addiction. And they know good and well they are taking a gargantuan risk.

    They may as well smoke 4 packs a day and chug maple syrup. Using them as an argument is silly. They’re all one phone call away. And even if it that lifestyle is sustainable, is the time spent worth it? You have 80 years on this Earth, you really want to spend 3 hours a day with your nose in a woman’s ass? I’d rather paint a painting or build a house, day trade or learn a skill…

    #817349
    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    Eric’s native language is not english?

    Yea, I couldn’t tell whether I liked that guy or not. We have to consider how far reaching this site is. We’re lucky it’s even in English. Hell, there is probably a Russian MGTOW.com or something…

    I know the Spanish speaking Mexicans started spreading MGTOW.

    Hardcore. I just look for what their overall stance is as best I can. We’re all somewhere on the Manosphere spectrum.

    #817482

    Anonymous
    38

    If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
    I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

    I believe your definition and interpretation are incorrect. If it was correct, then the likes of Barbarossa, HUMAN and other prominent MGTOW who have a woman in their lives would be “blue pill”. That would be completely ridiculous. There are also many prominent members here who have a girl. Are they also “blue pill”? I think not. The red pill is merely reality. And reality may well be that we have a deep seated need for a woman in some capacity (indeed I believe that much is self evident) and that for some men, life is better when they choose to be with one despite the risks. This cuts to the core of my original message.

    If you live with a woman, then you’re either blue pill or trapped in a blue pill situation, it doesn’t matter if you’re Barbarossa or someone else.
    But that’s just my opinion.

    I doubt even so called monks can totally banish the need. Being a monk is a strategy to alleviate the urge. Fine if you can’t figure it out mate, it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid for some men. Personally I consider there are a lot lot of ‘monks’ who are actually blue pill because they are running scared of women. Note I said a lot of, not all.

    I can’t speak for other men, but in my case my urge is what make me monk, it’s exactly because I have strong urges that being monk is far better than living with a woman.
    Every morning I have an erection when I wake up. I had been married with a woman and also cohabited with another woman, I also had many other experiences but it doesn’t matter so much since I didn’t live with them – however even those experiences gave me some hints.
    I KNOW that if I would live with a woman MOST mornings I couldn’t f~~~ her (I’m okay with that, her body her choice) NOR use a fleshlight (f~~~ off, that’s my body and my choice!), so sexually speaking living with a woman would be A SACRIFICE. Such sacrifice could be worthy if I would want children (I don’t want other kids, I already have kids) or if I would think that she can give me other benefits: benefits aren’t company or being loved (there are friends and kids for that) nor cooking and cleaning (that’s a joke, it’s not so much work, sometimes I even like to cook) but a good benefit it could be a person who is very able to save money, manage money and investments, and such person should also be someone who can be ABSOLUTELY trusted – women who are very able to manage, save and invest money are extremely rare, and they can’t be trusted, no matter how much good could be the person, due our laws and society actually encouraging women to stole half the man’s stuff when they’re bored – so, since I’m not bad at saving and managing my money and at investments, the risk isn’t worth the sacrifice (see the part about sexuality).
    Regarding one-night stands: why not? If I don’t have to make efforts. I’m not going to make efforts to get sex with a condom, I already had a lot of one-night-stands in my 20s, a fleshlight is technically better, the good in one-night-stands is psychological satisfaction not physical pleasure but I don’t care anymore about such kind of psychological satisfaction.

    You have an erection because you want a woman. No amount of intellectual thought will change that. I have said many times that for a lot of men the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. But some fully MGTOW men still choose to scratch the itch and they are not lesser MGTOW. If you believe that you haven’t understood what MGTOW is. Nor are they necessarily less red pilled. If you are not being with a woman because she is x or y or isn’t z then you are still clinging to some blue pilled notion of what you wish women were. I know exactly what women are but despite that they still bring relief to my life. F~~~ off to anyone attempting to shame me for that choice, I go my own way.

    #817484

    Anonymous
    38

    There is no acknowledgement that there are women who do not fit the mold of your typical nasty gold-digging c~~~.

    I know not whether this is because the situation in the USA is really bad or because the men have never experienced a good woman. Saying “ALL women are bad” is pretty pathetic. It is totally wrong and intellectually dishonest.

    […]

    Some of us have experienced good women. And while it’s not worked out, it wasn’t always because we were ‘f~~~ed over’. So you want to live life completely on your own terms – fine. But to say that reciprocal relationships don’t exist is plain false.

    This is the NAWALT position.

    I suspect that the writer has adopted it out of desperation. I understand the desire for a relationship, family, and so forth. It is a natural urge, after all.

    However, NAWALT is nonsense, as women are hardwired for hypergamy and betrayal. There are by definition no ‘good women’, only ones who are kept within bounds.

    ‘There are no good women is almost an absurd a statement as there are no good men’. Drop your notions of what is a good women. There are women who are re hypergamy us tk varying degrees. That is their nature. It’s your choice to call them good or bad. Saying all women are bad is the most loserish position I can think of. I agree 98% of women are utter s~~~ but some want genuine relationships. You’ll call AWALT on that as expected but it only shows you’ve missed my point, such is the hysteria of your typical brainwashed MGTOW.

    #817487
    +2
    Hermit
    Hermit
    Participant

    You have an erection because you want a woman. No amount of intellectual thought will change that. I have said many times that for a lot of men the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. But some fully MGTOW men still choose to scratch the itch and they are not lesser MGTOW. If you believe that you haven’t understood what MGTOW is. Nor are they necessarily less red pilled. If you are not being with a woman because she is x or y or isn’t z then you are still clinging to some blue pilled notion of what you wish women were. I know exactly what women are but despite that they still bring relief to my life. F~~~ off to anyone attempting to shame me for that choice, I go my own way.

    I think in your first post of this thread, (and now in the post above this one), you said something about how we shouldn’t think that all women are no good. That’s about the only thing I disagree with you on. I absolutely believe that ALL WOMEN ARE NO DAMN GOOD and I believe that because they are allowed to be that way. If there are any that are worth a s~~~, I’ve not met them in the half a century I’ve lived on this planet.

    However, I really enjoy having sex with women and I will continue to do that from time to time. They look good and they feel good so I’m gonna’ f~~~ ’em. I’ll never have any kind of relationship with them beyond sex, that’s for sure. That’s all they are to me, a cum dumpster. That’s all any of them are good for.

    If someone wants to say I’m not a MGHOW because I’m not monk, who gives a s~~~? Think what you want. I’m living my life the way I want to live it and I don’t give a f~~~ about what anyone else thinks.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #817496
    +1
    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
    Participant
    12043

    If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
    I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

    I believe your definition and interpretation are incorrect. If it was correct, then the likes of Barbarossa, HUMAN and other prominent MGTOW who have a woman in their lives would be “blue pill”. That would be completely ridiculous. There are also many prominent members here who have a girl. Are they also “blue pill”? I think not. The red pill is merely reality. And reality may well be that we have a deep seated need for a woman in some capacity (indeed I believe that much is self evident) and that for some men, life is better when they choose to be with one despite the risks. This cuts to the core of my original message.

    If you live with a woman, then you’re either blue pill or trapped in a blue pill situation, it doesn’t matter if you’re Barbarossa or someone else.
    But that’s just my opinion.

    I doubt even so called monks can totally banish the need. Being a monk is a strategy to alleviate the urge. Fine if you can’t figure it out mate, it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid for some men. Personally I consider there are a lot lot of ‘monks’ who are actually blue pill because they are running scared of women. Note I said a lot of, not all.

    I can’t speak for other men, but in my case my urge is what make me monk, it’s exactly because I have strong urges that being monk is far better than living with a woman.
    Every morning I have an erection when I wake up. I had been married with a woman and also cohabited with another woman, I also had many other experiences but it doesn’t matter so much since I didn’t live with them – however even those experiences gave me some hints.
    I KNOW that if I would live with a woman MOST mornings I couldn’t f~~~ her (I’m okay with that, her body her choice) NOR use a fleshlight (f~~~ off, that’s my body and my choice!), so sexually speaking living with a woman would be A SACRIFICE. Such sacrifice could be worthy if I would want children (I don’t want other kids, I already have kids) or if I would think that she can give me other benefits: benefits aren’t company or being loved (there are friends and kids for that) nor cooking and cleaning (that’s a joke, it’s not so much work, sometimes I even like to cook) but a good benefit it could be a person who is very able to save money, manage money and investments, and such person should also be someone who can be ABSOLUTELY trusted – women who are very able to manage, save and invest money are extremely rare, and they can’t be trusted, no matter how much good could be the person, due our laws and society actually encouraging women to stole half the man’s stuff when they’re bored – so, since I’m not bad at saving and managing my money and at investments, the risk isn’t worth the sacrifice (see the part about sexuality).
    Regarding one-night stands: why not? If I don’t have to make efforts. I’m not going to make efforts to get sex with a condom, I already had a lot of one-night-stands in my 20s, a fleshlight is technically better, the good in one-night-stands is psychological satisfaction not physical pleasure but I don’t care anymore about such kind of psychological satisfaction.

    You have an erection because you want a woman. No amount of intellectual thought will change that. I have said many times that for a lot of men the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. But some fully MGTOW men still choose to scratch the itch and they are not lesser MGTOW. If you believe that you haven’t understood what MGTOW is. Nor are they necessarily less red pilled. If you are not being with a woman because she is x or y or isn’t z then you are still clinging to some blue pilled notion of what you wish women were. I know exactly what women are but despite that they still bring relief to my life. F~~~ off to anyone attempting to shame me for that choice, I go my own way.

    I don’t know and it doesn’t matter why I have an erection every damn morning: point being that a woman within my bed CANNOT SATISFY ME MOST MORNINGS, a woman isn’t going to have sex with her partner all the mornings, and not even most the mornings: this isn’t an “intellectual thought” but a VERY PRACTICAL THOUGHT, actually the very opposite.
    I couldn’t care less about definitions and abstract concepts: either a woman is able to have sex with me EVERY morning or she’s not able to do it.
    The overwhelming majority of women aren’t able to do it. Game over, then, I’m not going to invest my time in pursuing a woman and then trying to live with her hoping she turns out to be an unicorn, especially not with actual laws: in my country living with a woman already give her rights on my stuff.
    To be totally fair: except for a case, women giving me strong signals aren’t fugly nor poor, they’re at least pretty decent regarding both, and even the fugly case still has a ittle more income (though unstable) than me, I have to admit that they aren’t obiouvs gold-diggers, but I don’t care: I know how things work, and that suffice.

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    #817629
    +1

    Anonymous
    38

    You have an erection because you want a woman. No amount of intellectual thought will change that. I have said many times that for a lot of men the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. But some fully MGTOW men still choose to scratch the itch and they are not lesser MGTOW. If you believe that you haven’t understood what MGTOW is. Nor are they necessarily less red pilled. If you are not being with a woman because she is x or y or isn’t z then you are still clinging to some blue pilled notion of what you wish women were. I know exactly what women are but despite that they still bring relief to my life. F~~~ off to anyone attempting to shame me for that choice, I go my own way.

    I think in your first post of this thread, (and now in the post above this one), you said something about how we shouldn’t think that all women are no good. That’s about the only thing I disagree with you on. I absolutely believe that ALL WOMEN ARE NO DAMN GOOD and I believe that because they are allowed to be that way. If there are any that are worth a s~~~, I’ve not met them in the half a century I’ve lived on this planet.

    However, I really enjoy having sex with women and I will continue to do that from time to time. They look good and they feel good so I’m gonna’ f~~~ ’em. I’ll never have any kind of relationship with them beyond sex, that’s for sure. That’s all they are to me, a cum dumpster. That’s all any of them are good for.

    If someone wants to say I’m not a MGHOW because I’m not monk, who gives a s~~~? Think what you want. I’m living my life the way I want to live it and I don’t give a f~~~ about what anyone else thinks.

    I like your style bro.

    #817633
    +1

    Anonymous
    38

    REDUNDANT

    Hold on Taoist…
    look at the word “redundant”, that oen is key here.

    There is a man who has a woman in his life. she is essential.

    There is a man who has a woman in his life. she is not essential/redundant.

    The first one is closer to the blue pill than the second.
    The first one needs his woman, the second one does not need her.

    The second one, he can walk away from his woman any time, because he does not need her.
    He knows he does not need her.
    Whether he DOES walk away or his own way is not told, just that he has the ability.

    ========================
    Conclusion:
    He who has a redundant woman in his life, can go his own way.

    Whether he does is a question for another day.

    I can walk away from any woman in my life. In fact I always do. I only keep them around as long as they serve my needs. I suppose I am a user of women. I can’t love them any more, it is not possible since becoming res pill. I look at them as children. It is usually fun for a few months then it gets dull and I move on. I can go for long periods without pussy, but to do so permanently would make life very bleak. I get something valuable from short term relationships. Now you can say if I just stayed a monk that h would eventually ‘get over’ my ‘need’ and be done being a monk for life. I do not think that is a given. Not at this point in my life anyway.
    Essential.. most things are not essential to me however they make my life enjoyable, tolerable. Playing football, drinking good wine, spending time with a woeman.

    Almost every man was at this stage once in his life so let us not shame those men for following their will. By all means we must make men completely aware of their nature and the risks involved but not shun them for getting some pussy.

    #817639
    +1
    MACHO
    MACHO
    Participant

    Stop MGTOW becoming a cult

    No Way Sir we’re not a Cult!

    MGTOW.com is fast-becoming become a self-congratulatory club for men who’ve sworn off women. Observations about women get shouted down with “I don’t care about women”, unless you’re a long-standing member and then it’s often a different response

    So then.. why not bite the bullet until like you wrote.. you become a long standing member?

    That is their nature. It’s your choice to call them good or bad. Saying all women are bad is the most loserish position I can think of. I agree 98% of women are utter s~~~ but some want genuine relationships. You’ll call AWALT on that as expected but it only shows you’ve missed my point, such is the hysteria of your typical brainwashed MGTOW.

    Why are you butting heads with the general spirit of the site? You like attention or maybe you would like to steer the site in a different direction? who are you to request this?

    I know exactly what women are but despite that they still bring relief to my life. F~~~ off to anyone attempting to shame me for that choice, I go my own way

    Good enjoy them!

    You must own a better Crystal ball than I
    #817785
    +2
    Hermit
    Hermit
    Participant

    REDUNDANT

    Hold on Taoist…
    look at the word “redundant”, that oen is key here.

    There is a man who has a woman in his life. she is essential.

    There is a man who has a woman in his life. she is not essential/redundant.

    The first one is closer to the blue pill than the second.
    The first one needs his woman, the second one does not need her.

    The second one, he can walk away from his woman any time, because he does not need her.
    He knows he does not need her.
    Whether he DOES walk away or his own way is not told, just that he has the ability.

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    Conclusion:
    He who has a redundant woman in his life, can go his own way.

    Whether he does is a question for another day.

    I can walk away from any woman in my life. In fact I always do. I only keep them around as long as they serve my needs. I suppose I am a user of women. I can’t love them any more, it is not possible since becoming res pill. I look at them as children. It is usually fun for a few months then it gets dull and I move on. I can go for long periods without pussy, but to do so permanently would make life very bleak. I get something valuable from short term relationships. Now you can say if I just stayed a monk that h would eventually ‘get over’ my ‘need’ and be done being a monk for life. I do not think that is a given. Not at this point in my life anyway.
    Essential.. most things are not essential to me however they make my life enjoyable, tolerable. Playing football, drinking good wine, spending time with a woeman.

    Almost every man was at this stage once in his life so let us not shame those men for following their will. By all means we must make men completely aware of their nature and the risks involved but not shun them for getting some pussy.

    I’m pretty sure I understand where you’re coming from, but your wording has apparently not set well with some.

    I see nothing wrong with being monk. I see nothing wrong with playing with fire and f~~~in’ around with women sometimes. If you keep your wits about you and play safely with the fire, you can have some fun and not get burnt.

    I sometimes wish I could get rid of the sexual urges, but some of those evil bitches look and feel so damn good, I sneak in and get what I want and then run the hell out and I’m satisfied for a while.

    I have been ignoring my urges more and more however. Life without women is so much easier and pleasant. It’s just easier to say, “f~~~ it”, it’s not worth the hassle to get laid.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

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    Anonymous
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    Why are you butting heads with the general spirit of the site? You like attention or maybe you would like to steer the site in a different direction? who are you to request this?

    Why do men post here at all? To share, to educate. Other than posting merely to assimilate with the hive you could say every single post has an intention, to educate, to influence. This isn’t a power play from me. I don’t care about attention or being likable. I’m just speaking what I believe to be the truth and I’m open to discussion. I’ve taken a lot from the many responses here and consider myself more informed now than prior. Looking back at my original post I can see why it’s ruffled feathers and being honest not everything that comes from my mouth or keyboard is perfectly formed. I meant no disrespect to anyone here.

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    Anonymous
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    Almost every man was at this stage once in his life so let us not shame those men for following their will. By all means we must make men completely aware of their nature and the risks involved but not shun them for getting some pussy.

    Personally, if you were to ask me who i shame…?
    Not the Mgtows, not the Bluepiiers, not the Purplepillers not the Females, lefties, Gheyyys or Lesbians, Trans, Attack Helicopters and whatnot.,
    Shame is not a valid argument, neither for us, nor for anyone else- shame is useless waste of time.

    Some MGTOW have a higer resistance to shaming tactics – being looked down upon and never being good enough is part of what brought us to our current point in life.
    Only those who swallowed the red pill very recently, and still wonder is they should turn their backs and walk away… have a vulnerability to shame.
    guys like you, like me… Thick skin, words bounce off, wether written or spoken.
    We do our thing and still bang for our own reasons.
    No marriage, no cohabitation, never a woman´s bitch.

    Done and dusted.

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    You’ll call AWALT on that as expected but it only shows you’ve missed my point, such is the hysteria of your typical brainwashed MGTOW.

    You have made it clear that you still believe that there are unicorns (the elusive 2% wanting a ‘genuine relationship’ to which you refer).

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