Stop MGTOW becoming a cult

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Christopher wrote:

Sidecar gave a drive by shooting that transcended your interpretation.

Actually I just quoted the Tao Te Ching. Chapter one. Verse three.

Seriously, abandoning desire is literally the very beginning of the book.

I am forced to conclude that the handle “MGTaoist” is the forum equivalent of this tattoo:

[G.O.A.TParticipant 1459]

I don’t give a F~~~, if you’re a monk, or not. Doesn’t matter if our ideologies differs from one another.

But, one thing we all can agree on.

WOMEN ARE EVIL.

Men are also evil.

But, unlike men, they have society behind them.

Just be careful when dealing with these little pieces of s~~~.

Money is God.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

May I ALSO remind you..

Now here is a CULT:

MANSPREADING was TAKEN seriously? How MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT ON THIS????

RENAMING HURRICANES? No Really, they tried..

How about a MOVIE causing women to throw blood in a bookstore, and Urge other people to SKIN MEN ALIVE?. All due to a movie. American Psycho? THIS WAS A REAL ARTICLE AND TALKED ABOUT IN THE NEWS!!!!

Talk about STUPID:

FEMEN was founded by a man named Victor Svyatski. Svytaski chose the women he’d most like to see topless, and in the name of feminism, they strip down and bare all.
THAT”S RIGHT! A MAN CHOOSE WOMEN TO PROTEST TOPLESS FOR HIS ENJOYMENT! AND WOMEN WERE HAPPY TO DO IT. For the Dumbest s~~~ too.

How about WOMEN and FEMINIST banning CONDOMS? Why? The “Public reason” was to not rely on men.. The REAL REASON? So WOMEN were able to be in control of MEN. PERIOD.
And yet NOT A WORD WAS SAID. Women quickly realized that all they had to do was poke holes in the condom, or just sperm jack.

How about BANNING PORN? Again, women that were doing it had NO PROBLEMS. But again, ALL ABOUT CONTROL OF MALE SEX. PERIOD. ALL ABOUT CONTROL.
This c~~~:

Wanted to BAN IT FOR EVERYONE… While also at the same time and no I am not making this up. Making it ILLIGAL FOR MEN TO MASTRBATE. That was the rumors of what she talked about.

And if anyone wants some REAL F~~~ED UP NEWS? the Klueless Clan SUPPORTED WOMEN’S RIGHT TO VOTE SO THEY COULD BAN ALCOHOL! No, I am not making this s~~~ up. THEY SUPPORTED FEMINISTS because guess what? WOMEN WERE THE MAJOR SUPPORTERS OF THE KLAN!
So lets see. here..

Lets not forget THIS F~~~ING GEM!

Dworkin has expressed disapproval for most heterosexual sex between two partners, BUT she has endorsed incest.

Dworkin wrote, “The destruction of the incest taboo is essential to the development of cooperative human community based on the free flow of natural androgynous eroticism.”

But if you think Dworkin’s fondness for incest means she’s the family type, think again. She’s expressed an antipathy for male offspring, claiming, “Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman.”

The only thing she may have ever said that makes sense is this. And ONLY if you take it out of HER CONTEXT and Apply it to men. Because that’s where we are now.

And what about this CULTS thinking about SCIENCE?

She keeps saying we have a missing fluid. Well f~~~ so does SHE.
Here’s MINE!

And you WANT to talk about VIOLENCE?

CHECK OUT THIS BOOK! And IT CALLS FOR KILLING MEN AND CARVING THEM UP.
And guess what? TOTALLY OKAY!

Have you heard of Cell 16? No? Guess where all the CRAZY s~~~ we have now COMES FROM?

I want you to REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS. THis WOMAN who SHOT A MAN ON PREMEDITATED MURDER only got 3 years in jail.. .

Let me say this again. THIS WOMEN SHOT ANDY WORHOLE.. And got 3 years in jail.

And later on got out, and STALKED HIM. And just got told she was a mental case. Bug people are still following her books, her plays, and still talking about her.

……. June 3, 1968, Solanas showed up to Warhol’s art studio, opening fire on the artist and his friend Mario Amaya.

Warhol suffered extensive injuries from the shooting, narrowly avoiding death. Doctors had to perform open-heart surgery on

****** Warhol, who remained debilitated by the attack for the rest of his life.*******

Following her arrest, Solanas represented herself at her trial and told the presiding judge,

“I have nothing to regret!”

After the remarks in court, the judge had her admitted to Bellevue Hospital for psychiatric observation.

Following this evaluation, Solanas was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.

*****Sentenced to three years for the near-murder, ******

Solanas devoted herself to her feminist cause in prison. She also maintained her unflinching hatred of Andy Warhol.

Asked about almost killing the man, Solanas replied, “I consider that a moral act. And I consider it immoral that I missed. I should have done target practice.”

Post-release, Solanas was arrested for stalking Warhol in 1971. She spent the rest of her life drifting in and out of mental institutions around New York City until she died of pneumonia in 1988 at the age of 52.

Let me say this again. She got LESS TIME from SHOOTING A MAN WITH A MISSION TO KILL HIM .. OVER LOSING A SCRIPT SHE WROTE.

After being shot by Valerie Solanis, Andy would wear a girdle or belt for the rest of his life in order to keep himself together.

And this F~~~ING COMPLETE FAILURE gets BOOKS written about her that call her STRONG?

WHO is the F~~~ING CULT NOW?

Last time I heard, MGTOW.com member. (besides me) never told anyone to seek violent acts towards women. Never TOLD Men to hurt children. And Never went out of our way to tell men to sacrifice themselves for an IDEOLOGY.

Not ONE MAN has EVER told me here to go with my plans, not have they tried to encourage me to seek vengeance for the death of a 3 month old Baby boy, or the sexual abuse that has been covered up. NOT ONCE.

CULT? I will show you CULT.

NOw… THAT s~~~ is a CULT. Pony F~~~ERS…

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

May I ALSO remind you..

Now here is a CULT:

MANSPREADING was TAKEN seriously? How MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT ON THIS????

RENAMING HURRICANES? No Really, they tried..

How about a MOVIE causing women to throw blood in a bookstore, and Urge other people to SKIN MEN ALIVE?. All due to a movie. American Psycho? THIS WAS A REAL ARTICLE AND TALKED ABOUT IN THE NEWS!!!!

Talk about STUPID:

FEMEN was founded by a man named Victor Svyatski. Svytaski chose the women he’d most like to see topless, and in the name of feminism, they strip down and bare all.
THAT”S RIGHT! A MAN CHOOSE WOMEN TO PROTEST TOPLESS FOR HIS ENJOYMENT! AND WOMEN WERE HAPPY TO DO IT. For the Dumbest s~~~ too.

How about WOMEN and FEMINIST banning CONDOMS? Why? The “Public reason” was to not rely on men.. The REAL REASON? So WOMEN were able to be in control of MEN. PERIOD.
And yet NOT A WORD WAS SAID. Women quickly realized that all they had to do was poke holes in the condom, or just sperm jack.

How about BANNING PORN? Again, women that were doing it had NO PROBLEMS. But again, ALL ABOUT CONTROL OF MALE SEX. PERIOD. ALL ABOUT CONTROL.
This c~~~:

Wanted to BAN IT FOR EVERYONE… While also at the same time and no I am not making this up. Making it ILLIGAL FOR MEN TO MASTRBATE. That was the rumors of what she talked about.

And if anyone wants some REAL F~~~ED UP NEWS? the Klueless Clan SUPPORTED WOMEN’S RIGHT TO VOTE SO THEY COULD BAN ALCOHOL! No, I am not making this s~~~ up. THEY SUPPORTED FEMINISTS because guess what? WOMEN WERE THE MAJOR SUPPORTERS OF THE KLAN!
So lets see. here..

Lets not forget THIS F~~~ING GEM!

Dworkin has expressed disapproval for most heterosexual sex between two partners, BUT she has endorsed incest.

Dworkin wrote, “The destruction of the incest taboo is essential to the development of cooperative human community based on the free flow of natural androgynous eroticism.”

But if you think Dworkin’s fondness for incest means she’s the family type, think again. She’s expressed an antipathy for male offspring, claiming, “Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman.”

The only thing she may have ever said that makes sense is this. And ONLY if you take it out of HER CONTEXT and Apply it to men. Because that’s where we are now.

And what about this CULTS thinking about SCIENCE?

She keeps saying we have a missing fluid. Well f~~~ so does SHE.
Here’s MINE!

And you WANT to talk about VIOLENCE?

CHECK OUT THIS BOOK! And IT CALLS FOR KILLING MEN AND CARVING THEM UP.
And guess what? TOTALLY OKAY!

Have you heard of Cell 16? No? Guess where all the CRAZY s~~~ we have now COMES FROM?

I want you to REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS. THis WOMAN who SHOT A MAN ON PREMEDITATED MURDER only got 3 years in jail.. .

Let me say this again. THIS WOMEN SHOT ANDY WORHOLE.. And got 3 years in jail.

And later on got out, and STALKED HIM. And just got told she was a mental case. Bug people are still following her books, her plays, and still talking about her.

……. June 3, 1968, Solanas showed up to Warhol’s art studio, opening fire on the artist and his friend Mario Amaya.

Warhol suffered extensive injuries from the shooting, narrowly avoiding death. Doctors had to perform open-heart surgery on

****** Warhol, who remained debilitated by the attack for the rest of his life.*******

Following her arrest, Solanas represented herself at her trial and told the presiding judge,

“I have nothing to regret!”

After the remarks in court, the judge had her admitted to Bellevue Hospital for psychiatric observation.

Following this evaluation, Solanas was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.

*****Sentenced to three years for the near-murder, ******

Solanas devoted herself to her feminist cause in prison. She also maintained her unflinching hatred of Andy Warhol.

Asked about almost killing the man, Solanas replied, “I consider that a moral act. And I consider it immoral that I missed. I should have done target practice.”

Post-release, Solanas was arrested for stalking Warhol in 1971. She spent the rest of her life drifting in and out of mental institutions around New York City until she died of pneumonia in 1988 at the age of 52.

Let me say this again. She got LESS TIME from SHOOTING A MAN WITH A MISSION TO KILL HIM .. OVER LOSING A SCRIPT SHE WROTE.

After being shot by Valerie Solanis, Andy would wear a girdle or belt for the rest of his life in order to keep himself together.

And this F~~~ING COMPLETE FAILURE gets BOOKS written about her that call her STRONG?

WHO is the F~~~ING CULT NOW?

Last time I heard, MGTOW.com member. (besides me) never told anyone to seek violent acts towards women. Never TOLD Men to hurt children. And Never went out of our way to tell men to sacrifice themselves for an IDEOLOGY.

Not ONE MAN has EVER told me here to go with my plans, not have they tried to encourage me to seek vengeance for the death of a 3 month old Baby boy, or the sexual abuse that has been covered up. NOT ONCE.

CULT? I will show you CULT.

NOw… THAT s~~~ is a CULT. Pony F~~~ERS…

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Camille Paglia is actually a real example of NAWALT, just said.
However it’s irrelevant, since she’s lesbian (that’s probably why she’s a true NAWALT, lesbianism is somewhat like a bizarre form of brain cancer: 99% affected people become misandrous monsters, 1% become geniuses).

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[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Being adamant that it is not a good idea to stick your hand into a chainsaw is not being cult-like.
Being adamant that it is not a good idea to stand in the middle of the freeway is not being cult-like.
Being adamant that it is not a good idea to jump off a skyscraper is not being cult-like.

Being adamant that it is not a good idea to have a woman near you or in your company is not being cult-like. Just because it’s generally agreed upon doesn’t make it wrong. It’s been stated time and time again that of course all women don’t ACT like c~~~s- it’s that they can be, and ALL of them have the law on their side, if at any point they decide they don’t like you. You’re placing your entire well being in her hands.

If running the risk of getting your life destroyed over some pussy is the “way you wanna go” then more power to you. But it’s not a good idea, it’s not going to be encouraged, and it’s questionable that it is MGTOW behavior.

The huge fallacy that people keep trying to bring up is that since MGTOW means you “go your own way”, you can do anything you want without anybody saying anything about it, otherwise that’s against the MGTOW way, and they are suddenly hypocrites. And that is simply not true- if you decide the way you are going to go is get married and be a blue-pill simp, well sir, you are NOT MGTOW. If you decide to go put pussy on a pedestal, and act like you are second rate to a woman, you’re NOT MGTOW.

Now those are some overly obvious situations, but the point is that no, you are not going to be pat upon the back for a bad decision. I’d be pretty confident in saying that there is no actual MGTOW advice that will hurt you or get you into trouble, unlike a lot of other things.

It’s all risk mitigation when dealing with women, and every risk you decide NOT to mitigate when it comes to them is NOT MGTOW behavior.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

MGTOW shaming?

This is exactly what I did as a kid in the presence of c~~~ speak.

And still do.

(Man, they get p~~~ed once you do that!)

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 1]

All great stuff posted by iMickey503. Another key difference I can add to this. Feminism was created by the CIA and funded by the Rockefellers. It was kept secret during the 1960s but has recently been exposed. MGTOW is a grass roots phenomena. Feminism was created top down by well financed and controlled leaders. Big difference right there.

[Anonymous 38]

sidecar wrote:

Christopher wrote:

Sidecar gave a drive by shooting that transcended your interpretation.

Actually I just quoted the Tao Te Ching. Chapter one. Verse three.

Seriously, abandoning desire is literally the very beginning of the book.

I am forced to conclude that the handle “MGTaoist” is the forum equivalent of this tattoo:

I reject all doctrines, that’s why I choose Taoism. You need to look a little closer. Abandoning desire isn’t a requirement. It’s certainly wise in some respects but the point is to aren’t in harmony with your own nature. The fact you are alive is because you desire.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

I reject all doctrines, that’s why I choose Taoism.

Literally facepalming here.

Abandoning desire isn’t a requirement. It’s certainly wise in some respects but the point is to aren’t in harmony with your own nature. The fact you are alive is because you desire.

Lessen selfishness and restrain desires.

Without desire there is stillness, and the world settles by itself.

There is no greater crime than desire.
There is no greater disaster than discontent.
There is no greater misfortune than greed.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Maintaining the ‘AWALT’ mindset is kinda like wearing your seat belt. Even though the chances of getting into a horrible collision on only a 30 second car ride might be infinitesimally small, we all (or most of us) still buckle up….

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

The point isn’t “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve gone monk”, the point being “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve made women redundant in your life”.
This is my idea, just consider that, from my point of view, MGTOW is the logical final stage of being PUA and PUA-like.
Think about fordism and automation: PUA is like fordism, all women are the same, only difference being f~~~able and unf~~~able, just like all the decent workers are interchangeable for fordism. MGTOW is just like fordism who is switching to automation. Shaming the production that still need skilled human workers is silly and even harmful, but it’s understandable that such production is different from the general mindset, the general trend and the final goal.

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[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Eric’s native language is not english? LoL. No one can tell bro. F~~~ing smart people… MGTOW is Full of their kind now.

Welcome to btw.

Eric Lauder wrote:

The point isn’t “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve gone monk”, the point being “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve made women redundant in your life”.
This is my idea, just consider that, from my point of view, MGTOW is the logical final stage of being PUA and PUA-like.
Think about fordism and automation: PUA is like fordism, all women are the same, only difference being f~~~able and unf~~~able, just like all the decent workers are interchangeable for fordism. MGTOW is just like fordism who is switching to automation. Shaming the production that still need skilled human workers is silly and even harmful, but it’s understandable that such production is different from the general mindset, the general trend and the final goal.

Engineer? or electrician of some kind. Possibly a chef. Must be a CAR guy!

I got dibs on Eric being a car guy! Or deals with Aviation.

The Logic is Spock like here.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Anonymous 38]

sidecar wrote:

MGTaoist wrote:

I reject all doctrines, that’s why I choose Taoism.

Literally facepalming here.

Abandoning desire isn’t a requirement. It’s certainly wise in some respects but the point is to aren’t in harmony with your own nature. The fact you are alive is because you desire.

Lessen selfishness and restrain desires.

Without desire there is stillness, and the world settles by itself.

There is no greater crime than desire.
There is no greater disaster than discontent.
There is no greater misfortune than greed.

You seem to be suggesting that aligning with a philosophy is akin to following a doctrine. I find that illogical.

[Anonymous 38]

Eric Lauder wrote:

The point isn’t “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve gone monk”, the point being “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve made women redundant in your life”.
This is my idea, just consider that, from my point of view, MGTOW is the logical final stage of being PUA and PUA-like.
Think about fordism and automation: PUA is like fordism, all women are the same, only difference being f~~~able and unf~~~able, just like all the decent workers are interchangeable for fordism. MGTOW is just like fordism who is switching to automation. Shaming the production that still need skilled human workers is silly and even harmful, but it’s understandable that such production is different from the general mindset, the general trend and the final goal.

Interesting point. This opens a wider debate on what constitutes making a woman redundant in your life and even if that is a pre requisite for being MGTOW.

Monk hood is indeed a wise choice for many men. But not all.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

You seem to be suggesting that aligning with a philosophy is akin to following a doctrine.

It is the way you’re doing it.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Anonymous wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

The point isn’t “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve gone monk”, the point being “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve made women redundant in your life”.
This is my idea, just consider that, from my point of view, MGTOW is the logical final stage of being PUA and PUA-like.
Think about fordism and automation: PUA is like fordism, all women are the same, only difference being f~~~able and unf~~~able, just like all the decent workers are interchangeable for fordism. MGTOW is just like fordism who is switching to automation. Shaming the production that still need skilled human workers is silly and even harmful, but it’s understandable that such production is different from the general mindset, the general trend and the final goal.

Interesting point. This opens a wider debate on what constitutes making a woman redundant in your life and even if that is a pre requisite for being MGTOW.

Monk hood is indeed a wise choice for many men. But not all.

If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

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[Anonymous 38]

Eric Lauder wrote:

MGTaoist wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

The point isn’t “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve gone monk”, the point being “you aren’t real MGTOW unless you’ve made women redundant in your life”.
This is my idea, just consider that, from my point of view, MGTOW is the logical final stage of being PUA and PUA-like.
Think about fordism and automation: PUA is like fordism, all women are the same, only difference being f~~~able and unf~~~able, just like all the decent workers are interchangeable for fordism. MGTOW is just like fordism who is switching to automation. Shaming the production that still need skilled human workers is silly and even harmful, but it’s understandable that such production is different from the general mindset, the general trend and the final goal.

Interesting point. This opens a wider debate on what constitutes making a woman redundant in your life and even if that is a pre requisite for being MGTOW.

Monk hood is indeed a wise choice for many men. But not all.

If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

I doubt even so called monks can totally banish the need. Being a monk is a strategy to alleviate the urge. Fine if you can’t figure it out mate, it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid for some men. Personally I consider there are a lot lot of ‘monks’ who are actually blue pill because they are running scared of women. Note I said a lot of, not all.

[MACHOParticipant]

I wouldn’t be surprised to find another plucked chicken on here soon!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Anonymous 38]

Eric Lauder wrote:

If women aren’t redundant in your life, then you need women in your life, and that’s textbook definition of blue pill.
I never saw, and I can’t even figure out, a PUA / PUA-like needing a woman in his life, that’s even more true for MGTOW monks since they don’t even need real pussy.

I believe your definition and interpretation are incorrect. If it was correct, then the likes of Barbarossa, HUMAN and other prominent MGTOW who have a woman in their lives would be “blue pill”. That would be completely ridiculous. There are also many prominent members here who have a girl. Are they also “blue pill”? I think not. The red pill is merely reality. And reality may well be that we have a deep seated need for a woman in some capacity (indeed I believe that much is self evident) and that for some men, life is better when they choose to be with one despite the risks. This cuts to the core of my original message.

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