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[GargamelSpectator]

LionOnTheLoose wrote:

sjt1975 wrote:

Gargamel wrote:

Still f~~~s with me having forgotten to backup Coterie.

“You can’t win ’em all”, as the saying goes. You did a fantastic job with backing-up MGTOW Is Freedom; you should get a medal for that alone!

Oh wow, Gargamel are you the genius responsible for backing up Big John?? That’s like saving Shakespeare before all the books get burned. You need to be awarded a MGTOW medal. Amazing job, thank you so much brother! I’ve only just started working my way through the videos, but they are gold.

Not quite, Big John was also backed up by an unknown stranger who put it on Archive.org.

I just found that place and posted it here.

But parallel to that, I uploaded by own YT backup to my FTP and gave KM the key to download them. (For posting them here)

So if that stranger had not done a backup, I would have done so.

But now I have opened my own archive.org account, wanting to mirror MGTOW 101 but I saw the same day that he continues on YT which means that I do not infringe copyrights as long as these things make money for the creator.

But I now have way over 1 TB of videos from dozens of creators. And I try to keep them updated and keep them mirrored on at least 2 server grade HDD’s.

TFM is 350 GB by himself.

Spetsnaz, Sunrise Hoodie, Barbarossa, MGTOW 101 and his new mirrors, Stardusk (Thinking Ape), Independent Man, Colttaine, Red Pill Wisdom, Voltaire, Sandman, huMan, Howard Dare, Messenger Rising, Groundworks…, SMF, Raging Golden Eagle and at least 10 others are saved and updated from time to time.

I can’t watch them all but when the time has come I have them to go through.

Not all of it is gold, but HDD’s aren’t that expensive.

But if one creator dies, his stuff will live on.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

[GargamelSpectator]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

This is spot on! Women never wanted good men, and with all the different forms of SM available, the worst aspects of female nature are on full display.

Violent men make them wet. They are mentally and physically stuck in the caveman age.

Here is Barbarossa’s classic on Hybristophilia:

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

[KingofWisdomParticipant]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

It’s true and false at the same time. Women are inferior for sure but they are more than just a lay and a sandwich maker. I also agree that Traditionalism sold women short of their utility. Barbarossa used to talk about that.

They are when they demonstrate they are. Our women have entitlement complexes and no desire to acquire useful skills or add any value to another person’s life. It’s all egocentrism. They demand their partner be funny, successful, handsome, supportive, and motivated while they live off their Instagram likes. Wait, I take it back… they do have stuff to offer… headaches and STDs.

They really aren’t more than either a sport f~~~. They can’t even make a decent sandwich anymore.

This is why I’m a monk.

Yes, they offer you nothing (except for headaches and STDs) but expect the world from you. This is why we’re walking away.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

They are when they demonstrate they are

I hear you bro, I agree to your post.

We’re just musing about the shortcomings of the Traditionalist system, you know that 50’s pipedream where things seemed to work. Though it was better than now, it still had major flaws Barbarossa used to talk about.

For men, we were still just tools. Human ‘doings’ to slave away nine to five while Mrs. Jones hung out at the house totally underutilized. We all know the arguments but women pose more use to the species than homemakers. This is why we sometimes refer to the other version of Feminism, the “good” feminism. They just took it to the extreme and rather than highlighting female attributes and finding a niche for them in the economy, feminists just sought to take men’s spot instead…

But yeah I get it, todays young women are doubly useless. They can no longer work a kitchen, suck at all male professions and they ditched motherhood, or seek to raise kids with the State as the daddy…

Where have all the good men gone? LOL …more like, what have women become?

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

It’s true and false at the same time. Women are inferior for sure but they are more than just a lay and a sandwich maker. I also agree that Traditionalism sold women short of their utility. Barbarossa used to talk about that.

They are when they demonstrate they are. Our women have entitlement complexes and no desire to acquire useful skills or add any value to another person’s life. It’s all egocentrism. They demand their partner be funny, successful, handsome, supportive, and motivated while they live off their Instagram likes.

They really aren’t more than either a sport f~~~. They can’t even make a decent sandwich anymore.

This is why I’m a monk.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

The most ironic aspect is that many women delude themselves into thinking that they’re just as happy as men w/the ONS/casual sex.

Yup, both sexes are entirely delusional about that. Men go into old age alone and so do women. The whole thing is broken. I can see why men think they have the one-up, no strings attached sex… but I don’t find it amusing at all that the only intercourse on offer is with loose women who probably have an STD. I this is why I rave about MGTOW being mainly Monk, because PUA behavior is the exact thing keeping male SMP value low. Stop laying these c~~~s, stop poisoning the well, let demand for men rise. But they like it all low and s~~~ty like that. They think with their dicks.

Ancientwisdom wrote:

if women no longer offer men monogamy through a sanctified marriage, then they are viewed solely for casual sexual purposes/ONS.

It’s true and false at the same time. Women are inferior for sure but they are more than just a lay and a sandwich maker. I also agree that Traditionalism sold women short of their utility. Barbarossa used to talk about that.

Ancientwisdom wrote:

They project their own ideals of what they find attractive in a man, onto themselves; as though any man has any of the above on his list for what he finds attractive in a female.

LOL so true bro

Ancientwisdom wrote:

voluntarily seared their conscious w/a proverbial hot iron – we call it the 1,000 c~~~ stare

LMAO

Its all confusing but I just stay away from chicks because every time I meet one, they have an attitude or are clearly unintelligent. I just don’t see the point of dealing with them

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Mgtow is a lot more than Sandman and Turd Flinging Monkey.

In my opinion, the quintessential mgtow content is Stardusk first and foremost, the compilation. That six hours is the easiest access to his old content. Its the quickest way to be immersed in MGTOW followed by Barbarossas playlists. Barbar

Barbarossa, Messenger Rising, Spetsnaz, and dozens of others that came later. That cartoon s~~~ is funny but it is not enough to understand Hypergamy and what sexual dimorphism really is.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

This is just surface level mgtow fun.

You want to know what mgtow is, be engulfed by the real redpill? Just play xbox or whatever and LISTEN for all 6 hours. Take it in, hear what he says.

Listen to these next for good measure, Barbarossa.

After about a week of taking in that content, now hit ManWomanMyth to round the bases.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP_5UYemwT2k_xJHTc-PARg/videos

Essential MGTOW Viewing Spetsnaz and MGTOW Messenger (Messenger Rising/Lazarus (he deletes his channels and videos a lot– much is no longer available but we have it saved)

[Gravel PitParticipant]

(I wrote this like 3 years ago, its more or less how I understand it based on the Stardusk Compilation)

Men Going Their Own Way
Credit to Stardusk (Thinking Ape) and Barbarossa for concepts herein

Hypergamy: Women are the limiting factor in reproduction.
If the population of women were suddenly decreased, we could face extinction due to the 9 month cycle women need to reproduce humans. If the numbers of men depleted in masse, we would not face this same threat of extinction.

Because of the unique physical demand and time consuming burden that women face in reproduction, evolution in our species took a course to correct for the vulnerability of our survival.

It’s evident that evolutionary biology played a role in shaping human psychology differently for each sex, so that females would be naturally favored as to ensure our survival. It stands to reason that hominids would not have survived if they weren’t looking after their weaker sex that was vulnerable during their 9 month reproductive cycles. It’s key to remember this helped hominids survive for millions of years.

Due to this evolved psychological survival mechanism, we can see that modern men to a fault, driven by a profound expression of ‘love,’ seek to protect and provide for women. This goes beyond the desire for sex, a survival tool itself. Men harbor naturally selected evo-psych traits to safeguard the species by protecting women who are a weak link in the species because they require considerable time to make new humans and can’t defend themselves well.

Females on the other hand, have an equally powerful instinct driving their behavior which seeks to secure provisions and safety at all costs for themselves and their offspring. We call this instinct in women, hypergamy. For millions of years it was crucial to our survival, but in a modern framework it causes extraordinary distress for men and society.

It could be argued that the invention of marriage was an attempt to correct for hypergamy which plays out in a variety of ways that wreak havoc on social bonds between women and men. Also of note here, is that hypergamy is the reason why women show own group preference. Men do not have this natural urge to favor their own; they always favor women and children instead thus ensuring the survival of the species—evolutionary psychology.

Maybe i should have done this a long time ago .

Because it appears to me that there are a few here who have no idea what MGTOW is .

With stupid questions like ” Duh can MGTOWs get laid? ”

Anyone here who asks a question like that IMO is probably a troll or tuna or both .

#1
Briffaults law :

By Robert Briffault 1876-1948
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. … Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.

With these corollaries
Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.

Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1)

A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male (which is not bloody likely).

Look This Up .

#2

Esther Vilar and her book The Manipulated Man .
Look it up .
From the cover
“Men have been trained and conditioned by women, not unlike the way Pavlov conditioned his dogs, into becoming their slaves As compensation for their labours men are given periodic use of a woman’s vagina. ”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manipulated_Man

#3
Bar Bar/Barbarossaa
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDoNFQZqQpd6aL32Ua4JPTQ
http://sheddingoftheego.com/

#4
Thinking-Ape/StarDusk
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1qRcO1OehgkOD_fHsu_uQ

Moving on .
Spetsnaz
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbbeOA5K7Hhc3I2vWG1jZ0w

TFM
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbgzmK-mfpjULHZ8SMCuhdg

Tom Leykis

Home

Men are reading and listening and coming to conclusions and have come to some conclusions .

One of them is Never Get Married .
MGTOW do not get married .Despite what Mz Piggy says or does not say .

Another conclusion that men have come to is Associating with Women Is a Risk

How much risk a MGTOW wants to or is willing to accept is up to him .

Understand ?????

If this offends you then perhaps MGTOW is not a place for you .

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Veritech AceParticipant]

Aaron Clarey turned anti-MGTOW when he sided with AVFM back when Elam and Barbarossa were having their spat. Bar Bar eventually started advocating a split from the MRA because it became clear that there was an ideological impasse. Here’s the relevant video where he called for that split:

It was around that time of that split when Clarey sided with the MRA and started calling MGTOWs “virgin-TOW,” and it is widely believed that Clarey involved if not responsible for doxxing Bar Bar. Clarey can eat a back of dicks for all I care.

Here’s the 2 hour video that Bar Bar refers to in the previous video in case you’re interested:

[FunInTheSunParticipant]

I like to watch Barbarossa & Turd Flinging Monkey videos because these guys are very much enlightened. I would recommend their channels for any man discovering the MGTOW lifestyle as well as the veterans of the gynocentric war zone.

Lately I’ve been watching Big John videos via Loyal Eugene’s channel:

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[GargamelSpectator]

– Big John, mirrored on archive.org
– Red Pill Wisdom
– Misandry Today (DDJ)
– Miggy 101 (ex MGTOW 101)
– Voltaire
– Thinking Ape
– True Grit Productions (Pat Riot)
– Sunrise Hoodie
– Independent Man
– Man Paradise
– Colttaine
– Raging Golden Eagle
– Turd Flinging Monkey
– Niccolo (German)
– Bar Bar (Barbarossa)
– Howard Dare

And some others who create good content.

Most of them are also archived here in case they get shut down.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant]

Barbarossa has a gf and Stardusk said he might still have sex with a woman if it was on a plate, but felt no genuine desire to have sex. Telling other men not to have sex is laughable and they will not listen. The sex drive is basic. Now celibacy might be the safest option in today’s toxic society but I think MGTOW is more awareness of the dangers of gynocentrism, the opposite of PUA worship of pussy and mitigating those risks. It is a spectrum and treating it like a club where we get to decide who is “in” or out is interesting but futile. In a sense a man’s actions and freedom to follow his own path, not one society or women have defined for him is the freedom of going your own way and the nebulous nature of the term is also its strength as it is difficult to hit a moving target.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

The acronym began as a way to describe a problem. Some men, who had been screwed by divorce and misandric laws in the system were trying to form a meeting (online or in person) and they were failing because “all the men were just going their own way” and isolating. They didn’t want to talk or meet. The phrase illustrated their problem of trying to bring men together. They adopted that phrase and began a forum going by the name. That was close to twenty years ago.

Those early guys had varying sentiment towards interaction with women. Some were Traditionalists who believed sincerely in reestablishing roles for men and women. These early attitudes were more MRA than anything. They were pro going back to women and working things out. Not all but most just wanted to re-establish masculine and feminine roles for men and woman. Marriage and sex was no problem.

As the internet began growing in the early 2000’s, eventually we got YouTube and ManWomanMyth. Watch those, because it was the spark that started a wildfire and a morphing of the MGTOW idea.

Those trad con ideas (traditional conservative) were shot full of holes later by Barbarossa (see the playlists by Barbarossa on YouTube). He took the tradconesque MRA early form of MGTOW into a whole new direction, a much more PUA direction. Then Stardusk really amped it up and took MGTOW into a MONK direction. The whole evolution, the number of men discovering mgtow was increasing the whole time.

After a few years of Barbar and Stardusk, MGTOW numbered in the several thousands. The overall flavor of mgtow was monk with little exception.

MGTOW is a journey for us. Many of us are still testing the water with women. Whether MGTOW is compatible with marriage and relationships is up to you, based on your experiences. For me, I’m a monk.

I began a thread about this recently. https://mgtow.com/forums/topic/origins-of-modern-mgtow-ragnar-mr-e-barbar/

Well, as you yourself pointed out, what MGTOW was, and stood for has changed, and the reality is, will continue to change. It has changed even here. Yes, there is, and will always be some underlying tones that are standard principles of MGTOW.

As for me personally, I don’t need, and never needed the label. I lived in such a way and continue to live in a way that is MGTOW. Well before I ever knew the terminology. That will never change.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

The acronym began as a way to describe a problem. Some men, who had been screwed by divorce and misandric laws in the system were trying to form a meeting (online or in person) and they were failing because “all the men were just going their own way” and isolating. They didn’t want to talk or meet. The phrase illustrated their problem of trying to bring men together. They adopted that phrase and began a forum going by the name. That was close to twenty years ago.

Those early guys had varying sentiment towards interaction with women. Some were Traditionalists who believed sincerely in reestablishing roles for men and women. These early attitudes were more MRA than anything. They were pro going back to women and working things out. Not all but most just wanted to re-establish masculine and feminine roles for men and woman. Marriage and sex was no problem.

As the internet began growing in the early 2000’s, eventually we got YouTube and ManWomanMyth. Watch those, because it was the spark that started a wildfire and a morphing of the MGTOW idea.

Those trad con ideas (traditional conservative) were shot full of holes later by Barbarossa (see the playlists by Barbarossa on YouTube). He took the tradconesque MRA early form of MGTOW into a whole new direction, a much more PUA direction. Then Stardusk really amped it up and took MGTOW into a MONK direction. The whole evolution, the number of men discovering mgtow was increasing the whole time.

After a few years of Barbar and Stardusk, MGTOW numbered in the several thousands. The overall flavor of mgtow was monk with little exception.

MGTOW is a journey for us. Many of us are still testing the water with women. Whether MGTOW is compatible with marriage and relationships is up to you, based on your experiences. For me, I’m a monk.

I began a thread about this recently. https://mgtow.com/forums/topic/origins-of-modern-mgtow-ragnar-mr-e-barbar/

In the spirit of arguing over mgtow…..we’re men and we like to argue. 🙂

Here is some very old content from Rocking Mr. E. and Barbarossa. I haven’t heard it in at least a year so this will be a refresher for me too.

If anyone has content from the original MGTOW forum, post some stuff for us. Let’s dig up some roots here, if anyone is interested in doing it.

As far as the argument for behavior of a mgtow, do we still get laid, date, cohabitate….. well…you have to listen and research the early stuff and figure it out for yourself. Even back then, there were guys trying to steer us back to hanging out with chicks, trying to get laid.

By all means, post early content that is interesting.

[Anonymous]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Mgtow isn’t going anywhere, we’ll be here and you have plenty of time to:

A. Go live with a woman get her prego

B. Avail yourself of classic mgtow content. Start with Manwomanmyth, Barbarossa and Stardusk.

Watch ALL of it. It will take you weeks. We’ll still be here.

Then come back and tell me that Mgtow can be married or date casually. At the very least, that definition is disingenuous.

We’re not telling men what to do, we’re defining a term that honestly shifted quite a bit in less than 5 years.

I think this website and a few content producers stayed true to it.

Im not mad about it. Its an old debate. I actually posted an old chat on MGTOW day that actually promotes going back out and seeing women. I even uploaded it to Youtube since Spetsnaz took it down.

I just like to bring it up (classic Mgtow) because I believe we’re going to see a revival of just plain ghosting relationships and sex all-together.

If you want to go back to women, watch atuff like this:
Validated Pain, Provoked Self-Rescue: https://youtu.be/Ejqn_iFg6k0.

If you think its too much a risk watch this:

Fake Pregnancy: Serious Advice: https://youtu.be/xpn4m4ly6Bc

This is what I mean. I’ve listened to it all mate. Hubdreds or even thousands of hours of the main creators and some smaller ones. Still I choose to engage in my terms, knowing the risks.

It doesn’t make men like me any less of men going their own way. In my eyes the likes of you are a lesser MGTOW cos you’re still trying to tell men what MGTOW is.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Mgtow isn’t going anywhere, we’ll be here and you have plenty of time to:

A. Go live with a woman get her prego

B. Avail yourself of classic mgtow content. Start with Manwomanmyth, Barbarossa and Stardusk.

Watch ALL of it. It will take you weeks. We’ll still be here.

Then come back and tell me that Mgtow can be married or date casually. At the very least, that definition is disingenuous.

We’re not telling men what to do, we’re defining a term that honestly shifted quite a bit in less than 5 years.

I think this website and a few content producers stayed true to it.

Im not mad about it. Its an old debate. I actually posted an old chat on MGTOW day that actually promotes going back out and seeing women. I even uploaded it to Youtube since Spetsnaz took it down.

I just like to bring it up (classic Mgtow) because I believe we’re going to see a revival of just plain ghosting relationships and sex all-together.

If you want to go back to women, watch atuff like this:
Validated Pain, Provoked Self-Rescue: https://youtu.be/Ejqn_iFg6k0.

If you think its too much a risk watch this:

Fake Pregnancy: Serious Advice: https://youtu.be/xpn4m4ly6Bc

[IRuleMeParticipant]

That is a whole different thing that is off topic. Ugly men and neurotic men can still get laid by fat chicks. They can still father children and pay child support….. Ugly girls and ugly men bang all the time. All those topics are elementary.

Not if they have a vasectomy. Not if they don’t engage in sex.

Wrong. Dude I respectfully disagree with your entire post. MGTOW the acronym has multiple origins that can be debated. The only one that matters is when it went viral by way of Stardusk and Barbar. Yes, there was ManWomanMyth before that and Enlgishmen arguing on an old forum from as early as the nineties. But real MGTOW, the one that exploded into what we have now, began with Stardusk and Barbarossa and it was very clearly, a departure form women in total…that includes sex and relations~~~s.

Woefully ignorant. But of no surprise since you take that position because you think it suits your argument. There is no such thing as “REAL MGTOW”. Least of all one that started with two people. MGTOW has been around for thousands of years in some form or another, and to simply pigeonhole the concept into one set of beliefs ignoring the rest is again, ignorant. You’re taking the opinions of two people on the internet and trying to present them to me as fact. Barbarossa and Stardusk are two men with opinions. They are not the be all, end all authority on MGTOW.

WRONG, SO WRONG. Go watch Messenger Risings videos, please. Watch the one I just posted. Not getting married is not going to protect you from false rape accusation, false abuse accusation, pregnancy, jail, suicide…. etc….. You guys are playing a popularity contest on youtube and mgtow.com trying to be cool and in the ‘club’ and have no idea what a woman can do to you. There is a bloody reason mgtow exists. Again, go watch mgtow messenger until you wise up. OR just go bang a bunch of women and see what happens. You’re walking a razors edge!

Again, you’ve constructed your entire argument about being MGTOW to be simply about women, which shows you really don’t get it. Those things can happen to you whether you’re MGTOW or not.

There is no freewill.

You lost your entire argument there. If that’s the case, then nobody is MGTOW. Without free will, then how can you go your own way? The problem with your argument is, you keep trying to convince me to go YOUR way. Which is contradictory to the concept of me going MY way. Nobody forces me not to engage in relationships with women. I MAKE that choice. Nobody forces me NOT to f~~~ women. I MAKE that choice.