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[Gravel PitParticipant]

IRuleMe wrote:

Actually the original MGTOW expression was

Wrong. Dude I respectfully disagree with your entire post. MGTOW the acronym has multiple origins that can be debated. The only one that matters is when it went viral by way of Stardusk and Barbar. Yes, there was ManWomanMyth before that and Enlgishmen arguing on an old forum from as early as the nineties. But real MGTOW, the one that exploded into what we have now, began with Stardusk and Barbarossa and it was clearly a departure from women in total…that meant no sex and relations~~~s, not a pledge of celibacy but at bare minimum we are not PUA’s….get it straight

IRuleMe wrote:

What you’re talking about really doesn’t differentiate MGTOW from INCELS and TFL’s

That is a whole different thing that is off topic. Ugly men and neurotic men can still get laid by fat chicks. They can still father children and pay child support….. Ugly girls and ugly men bang all the time.

IRuleMe wrote:

The only standard required for MGTOW is maintaining your sovereignty and freedom.

WRONG, SO WRONG. Go watch Messenger Risings videos, please. Watch the one I just posted. Not getting married is not going to protect you from false rape accusation, false abuse accusation, pregnancy, jail, suicide…. etc….. You guys are playing a popularity contest on youtube and mgtow.com trying to be cool and in the ‘club’ and have no idea what a woman can do to you. There is a bloody reason mgtow exists. Again, go watch mgtow messenger until you wise up. OR just go bang a bunch of women and see what happens. You’re walking a razors edge!

IRuleMe wrote:

It’s not impossible to be MGTOW while married, but it’s quite rare, and very difficult under the circumstances. The only reason most men on here even bring up the marriage issue is because most men here are divorced

OH MY GOD, where did you come from, when did you get here and what content have you watched? This is outrageous. If you’re married, youre not mgtow, period! You may understand your situation but youre not free. And to assume most men here were divorced is silly. Most men here got burned by a woman whether it was a two week relations~~~ or a 20 year relationship…. the raito of divorced men, to not, is probably like 1/5…..most of us are in our 30’s, never been married but learned enough not to ever do it. The divorced guys admittedly have more battle scars so we listen better to their elderly advice. The teen and twenty year olds, some virgins, most still unknowledgeable about the awful depths that a woman is going to take you to. Have fun.

IRuleMe wrote:

You either CHOOSE to live like a MGTOW, or you don’t.

Negative. There is no freewill. You either get burned by fire and never put your hand there again out of pain, or your get burned and you study why that hurt and never do it again. The ones who don’t educate themselves or weren’t hurt bad enough, go back out for seconds out of sheer animal instinct to fornicate. There is no choice in it.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

It’sAllBS, thanks. I admit, I’ve often toyed with the idea of going back out. Why not pick up that brunette at the donut shop, or that one with great knockers….I could get out clean I know it….

But sanity usually prevails. I do not do it. I have not had sex since 2013 and have no plans to going forward. If I don’t pursue it, it never happens and I’m fine with that. I did not swear an oath but I see the game for what it is and I have internalized the Stardusk Compilation message many times over. I know better.

But this is a HUGE ongoing debate. People like Spetsnaz, he made great content, but that guy is probably married now. He advocated for male growth and eventually going back to engaging with women and the whole nine yards.

Barbarossa, we all know, he was living with and banging chicks the whole time. We all know his type. Big dick, black/Puerto rican, endless lines of wonderful pussy just begging him for sex, how could he say no? He was never mgtow but he created timeless content. He was a PUA

If I go out and end my sexless streak tomorrow, if I start a relationship with the brunette cutie, that is fine. I know full well the risks but I don’t have the arrogance to say I’m going my own way, while engaged in such behavior.

Thanks for your agreement.

No one in mgtow is bossing other men around. But we call it like we see it.

Now I will take a moment of silence for all the sex addicts, married men and guys locked in a perpetual relations~~~ with a woman they cant quit.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Being 100% red pilled means being completely aware of reality, it’s actually not about women per se.

I know that it’s far more than that. Think about what my forum name is and then understand how ironic it is you informing me of that.

But you appear to me to be grabbing on to anything you can to convince yourself that they arn’t really that bad and NAWALT.

Well I got news for you AWALT.

Anonymous wrote:

PS I highly recommend you check out Barbarossa and HuMAN on YouTube. You’ll be telling me you’ve never heard of Stardusk next.

I haven’t

Keep trying to convince yourself son-you still secretly search a unicorn otherwise you would not be positing on here about relationships.

You would be pumping an dumping.

You know you will never get the true bond with a woman so stop trying to find it f~~~ them and dump them-buy a dog or something for the bond and companionship.

I knwo I odn’t sugar coat what I say but actually you will find many on here agree with me.

Anonymous wrote:

Actually there’s a lot of guys that can’t get over their blue pilled notions which is precisely WHY they stay away from women. You could be such a man for all I know

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha are you really saying that It’sallbs I was practically born mgtow captain. I looked like a male model when I was younger, tuna was all over me like a burtons suit. I always pumped and dumped.

Although it’s probably true of some people.

If you want to fcuk them fair enough -you know the risks-but the companion ship their company is awful -ever had a conversation with one?

As for what’s natural it’s just chemicals in your brain so we reproduce.

I don’t need to watch videos brewster hahahahahah jesus you do know your talking to It’sallbs don’t you.

Anonymous wrote:

PS I highly recommend you check out Barbarossa and HuMAN on YouTube. You’ll be telling me you’ve never heard of Stardusk next.

hahaahah hes telling bs he need sto watch MGTOW videos.

fcunk me that’s funny.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Anonymous]

It’sallbs wrote:

mgtow_taoist wrote:

Apparently It’sallbs would class Bar Bar and HuMAN as “blue pill” as they are in some sort of relationship with women… ha ha ha.

Human and BA ba I don’t know them I have said many times people can be stuck in a marriage and then wake up anyone who actively seeks more than pump and dump is still to some degree blue pill or a masichist as Carnage says.

I don’t want to keep flogging a dead horse so this is the last I’ll say on the matter, but that’s completely wrong. Being 100% red pilled means being completely aware of reality, it’s actually not about women per se. One reality is that most men have a deep need to pair bond and desire for sex. You don’t become ‘less red pilled’ by scratching that itch in some way, that’s absolute nonsense akin to saying “you’re not a real MGTOW if you associate with women”. If a man refuses to admit he desires women then ironically he’s more blue pill because he’s denying reality. You, and Carnage to an extent, have made a value judgement where you say I’m nuts for wanting to associate with something that’s toxic. But that only makes sense if I’m expecting anything other than reality from her, which as you’ll see from my posts is not the case.

Actually there’s a lot of guys that can’t get over their blue pilled notions which is precisely WHY they stay away from women. You could be such a man for all I know. Women offer me sex and occasional company, not honour and love. I don’t expect those things from a woman any more because I’m not blue pill.

Hit the Mangina button if you wish, I doubt you’ll get much support.

PS I highly recommend you check out Barbarossa and HuMAN on YouTube. You’ll be telling me you’ve never heard of Stardusk next.

[Anonymous]

All the others you’ve mentioned are great as an introductory but Bar Bar or Barbarossa’s videos were by far the best to objectively understand the dynamics of female mindset and behavior. There’s no going back once you’ve seen his videos.
He hasn’t made anymore for a year or more. I looked and found the best way to study his work is to sort his videos by popularity and download the ones over 20 minutes or so.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hey! Thanks for asking. @ChasePesos

Planned to create an exclusively red-pill men’s interest site since 2010. Partially because I have always been “red pill” and wanted to do something like that, and partially because of my father (who died a few years prior)…. and partially because of my well travelled experiences . . . but MOSTLY because it was really f~~~ing necessary.

In fact we registered another name and launched it for ONE DAY . . . . but didn’t like it. So we pulled it down, and we waited.

I personally read the old MGTOWForums site often and like many of you, my reaction was “holy s~~~ , I’m not living on an island after all”. So I signed up and made an intro – which was actually mandatory over there.

I don’t know what in hell I could have said wrong, but I was uncerimoniously banned for no reason whatsoever. No word about it or anything. Apparently there were others who experienced exactly the same. Then it happened AGAIN and I couldn’t even read or visit anymore.

I found this extremely hurtful and unnecessary.

As far as I am concerned, you don’t EVER slam the door in a MGHOW’s face – when he didn’t have it coming. You can bet his journey to arrive there was already difficult enough.

So we thought…. “why “join” when we can create our own?“

Then the old “MGTOW Forums” closed early 2014 and noticed mgtow-dot-com was available and up for auction. This was shortly after Barbarossa made a rather public video plea for “someone” to create an archive mechanism to stop s~~~ from being mysteriously disappearing from youtube and elsewhere.

I was also very active on Yahoo for a while, and noticed that it was a s~~~hole feminist hive (like you wouldn’t believe!) and “the male opinion” was being deleted from there — left and right — by a bunch of sick feminists running the show. They were truly mentally sick thought-control freaks.

I developed a nice little “following” there (and in a few places online) where I started engaging in banter with other guys and was STRONGLY encouraged to do something about it. Also knew that it was only a matter of time before someone else would attempt to lay claim to “MGTOW” (dot com) and could have ruined it altogether.

So I felt compelled to jump on it before others did.

At the time, MGTOW.com was just a static non-member based website of about 5 pages. A couple of related videos. Some information and links to some “men’s rights” sites…. and knew we could really do something with it.

Nobody responded to our attempts to reach out (including Barbarossa) – probably because they didn’t think we would have the knowledge, ability or resources to do it. Can’t really blame them for that either.

So I knew it had to be a “if you build it , they will come” thing.
And that’s what we did.

We knew we couldn’t wait for “permission” or “funding” or the consent to arrange it as a group effort, so we had to make it FIRST – ourselves – sink or swim. The demand and success would either arrive originally, or it wouldn’t work at all.

It wasn’t a prime motivator, but I was also once falsely accused too, and the bitch didn’t get away with it because I was much smarter than she was. But she tried to ruin my biography. Turns out this is not a one-off (by a long shot) ….. and I was also tired of seeing young men beating themselves up (or even feeling compelled to eat a bullet) about the current state of things in dating, modern relationships and marriage.

By 2014, the gyno-crazy was off the charts and out of control.

We acquired the site in Jan 2014. Previewed to get an idea of general interest in Feb/ March. Opened the doors April 6…. and by popular request, the forums opened exactly 3 months later. July 7th 2014.

The rest is history. And it’s all because of you fine gentlemen.
Thank you for being here and making it a good decision.

Anonymous wrote:

We don’t ask those questions here.

Can point to a couple of videos where I have said the same as above. Don’t mind the question at all. In fact, as time goes on, the story and origin becomes more interesting and I’m happier to share it.

But lets not hold a fireworks display just yet. Have a f~~~-tonne of work left to do, and not enough hours in the day to do it! But I like to think . . . . you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Sincerest thanks to everyone for your encouragement and continued loyalty.
It goes a LONG way to inspire us to continue.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous]

See Barbarossa’s “The Post-Feminism Man” video. When you become this man you realise you hold the power, any power others have over you is that which you gave away. Don’t get me wrong, it takes time to learn how to harness, and let’s be fully aware of the reality of relationships but let’s not be helpless victims against the gynocracy.

I was just doing some general MGTOW browsing last night and I came across this old post: /forums/topic/the-best-of-barbarossa/

The first part of that video REALLY struck a cord – thought i’d share it below:

“We live in a time where the ‘you-go-girl’ culture, along with the the hyper-sexualisation of society has simply eradicated the value of men.

By creating a breed of man so desperately sex craved that he’ll do anything entitled females demand of him to get it.

The men who wont bow down to women must now come to terms with the fact that when he’s in a relationship or even a marriage with a women, there is a legion of men waiting like cackling hyenas for YOU to slip up.

Women know this and this is why a so called equal relationship between a man and a women cannot exist in western society”

#ICETHEMOUT

Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT

[crushhighlanderParticipant]

Love Age of Empires. I once used the Wololo remark, when I was playing the Barbarossa campaign and Henry the Lion turned against me, funny thing is I won the first time around. This will sound super geeky but I even learned a few words in the characters’ remarks. I used to admire womanizers and the like but now I take it as an unsolved aspect of their psyche. It’s flattering to think that more than one person finds you appealing, but it can really get out of hand. Thus, MGTOW monks, I salute you.

No more hassles, no more nonsense, no more drama. Long live MGTOW!

[Blue SkiesParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Symbolically that’s what the regular participant guys of the forum do to the new guys.

yes, that’s exactly what i thought when I first saw this video.
not only MGTOW.com, but also the pioneers of MGTOW on youtube, like barbarossa, stardusk, spetsnaz, and etc…

These guys, along with men from these forums led by example, and extended a hand to those men who need it. Once upon a time, i was one of those men who needed red pill guidance.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

With the advent of witch hunt against men by femnazis YT has also started cracking down on mgtow content so I think quite a few will lay low until things are a bit more stable.

I really would like to hear from Barbarossa and Spetsnaz. It’s been too long if you ask me.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

OldBill wrote:

Don’t hold your breath. I suggested that almost a year ago and was told it wasn’t necessary.

It wasn’t really possible since we didn’t start recoding “last login” as an easily calculable unix time stamp. But we recently changed it to a proper timestamp so that we COULD that using simple math.

Except it’s going to p~~~ a lot of members off. Paul Elam, for example. Would it be right to just delete his account because he hasn’t logged in in over a year? Or Barbarossa? Or Messenger? They are founding/important members in the MGTOW online community. Plato is the first poster. Vile Nord I remember being a REALLY important original forums contributor.

They should stay unless they request otherwise.
It’s their “mark”. They made their mark.

Who cares if we p~~~ off Paul Elam? Has Paul Elam posted here? Why should he care if is account is removed? Paul Elam is just a person. Not a cult of personality. I can understand not removing accounts of people who haven’t posted in a while (they could come back), but no reason not to remove accounts with no posts at all. Lurkers don’t need accounts to view content. If they want to post, they can sign up. In fact, given that Tom Leykis distanced himself from MGTOW, get rid of his s~~~ too. He came here and all he did was kiss our ass and promote his streaming radio show. He offered nothing of value when he came here. All he did was waste everyone’s time and get their hopes up. Just like a woman.

Just because they “signed up” doesn’t mean they left their mark. They left their mark doing whatever it is they do. But whatever it is they do has nothing to do with this site. The website registration numbers are not important. It’s meaningless. What carries value is the PEOPLE who come to this site and CONTRIBUTE. The ones who extend the olive branch and tell their stories of the s~~~ they’ve been through, and contribute to the betterment of their fellow brothers like a beacon. If this site had only 2,000 accounts and all of them were active, it would be better than 250 active accounts with a 30,000 registered user database.

If it were just about the numbers, I could sign up with 10 different accounts tomorrow with 10 different emails, and different ip addresses and you would never be any wiser for it.

[GargamelSpectator]

Keymaster wrote:

Except it’s going to p~~~ a lot of members off. Paul Elam, for example. Would it be right to just delete his account because he hasn’t logged in in over a year? Or Barbarossa? Or Messenger? They are founding/important members in the MGTOW online community. Plato is the first poster. Vile Nord I remember being a REALLY important original forums contributor.

They should stay unless they request otherwise.
It’s their “mark”. They made their mark.

I want you to keep my posts for the next 1000 years. Even if I die tomorrow.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

[KeymasterKeymaster]

OldBill wrote:

Don’t hold your breath. I suggested that almost a year ago and was told it wasn’t necessary.

It wasn’t really possible since we didn’t start recoding “last login” as an easily calculable unix time stamp. But we recently changed it to a proper timestamp so that we COULD that using simple math.

Except it’s going to p~~~ a lot of members off. Paul Elam, for example. Would it be right to just delete his account because he hasn’t logged in in over a year? Or Barbarossa? Or Messenger? They are founding/important members in the MGTOW online community. Plato is the first poster. Vile Nord I remember being a REALLY important original forums contributor.

They should stay unless they request otherwise.
It’s their “mark”. They made their mark.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Here’s a list of my favorite classic and essential mgtow content, like Stardusk Compilation and Barbarossa hits. I got informed and went MONK but that is just me.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Hats off to Turd Flinging Monkey, Misandry Today, Sandman, hUMAN, MGTOW 101, Terrence Popp and many others.

not so fast on “perfect comment” the dude hat tips a bunch of 2nd wave mgtow producers, not the glorious, golden content makers like Stardusk and Barbar.

Regardless of how we feel about them, Stardusk’s name needs to be first on any list of content producers. Next is Barbarossa or ManWomanMyth. All the blokes who showed up after that to cash in are 2nd wave.

Sorry, I enjoy TFM to an extent and also huMAN but the rest I don’t even check on once a year.

Hello guys!

I planned and wrote a big article on this theme, but apparently that thing won’t work in the way I expected. So, due to these reasons:
– A lot of original materials used in article were written in Russian
– A lot of data is biased
– My laziness to translate and filter all that s~~~
– Technical issues with posting of all that s~~~
– Big articles with figures and facts won’t work in comparison with style of presentation of Terrence Popp or Barbarossa
So screw that initial plan!
I’ll drop some compressed concentrated bits of Red Pill knowledge from Russia about marriage and divorce.

This time it would be this list:
– Current 2016 / 2017 divorce rate in Russia is more than 85%!
– Most of them (more than 70%) are initiated by women
– 4 out of 5 marriages were done in first 5 years
– 4 out of 5 marriages left from initial pool were done in next 5 years, so it is very similar to English speaking countries
– All things that man bought, received as gift, or obtained somehow in marriage are considered as common property of both spouses and consequently, after divorce court, you guessed it – as property of fishy self-moving c~~~! With ratio of 50 / 50 in the best case scenario
– There is no such thing as exactly divorce court in Russia, so man’s case would be viewed among with cases of thieves, burglars, murderers and other felons
– So called wife can falsely accuse husband of rape at any time. No evidence is needed
– There is no “right on sex” in Russia as it was mythologized, wife can f~~~ with anybody at any time, and consequently can not to f~~~ with husband at all
– If husband will initiate a divorce with reason of infidelity, there won’t be any distinct difference in outcome, except for that statement. Reasons means nothing there
– If you have no kids, but your ex-wife got pregnant from chad and born a child in time of little bit less than one year from divorce date (sorry, I don’t remember exact number, but it is way more than 9 months), you’ll be legally considered as “father” without your participation or consent
– Alimony can be set without participation or consent or notification of man (except of post-factum)
– Alimony can be ordered even in existing marriage
– Alimony size – from 25% of man’s income up to 70% of it in “extra” cases. All man’s deposits and stuff can be confiscated to fill alimony debt hole, if he didn’t paid them, even if it was just one payment period (1 month for example)
– Alimony debt pit – if man didn’t pay it, then he’ll pay alimony debt interest rate – 183% per annum, and there are extra fines except of that. Also men’s right to leave Russia will be banned, and he’ll be prosecuted as felon, once again.
– If man got kids – they will stay with so called “mother” in more than 97% of all cases (even if there is no law saying to do that so)
– If man got order from court to be “Sunday dad” – she will interrupt his communication with his kids, reduce amount of its time, or just won’t allow it to happen (by moving into another city), and there is no responsibility and retaliation for that, even if he’ll get another order from court, court executors won’t execute it.
– There is a lot of data (in Russian, backed by DNA tests) which is showing that 25 up to 50% of all husbands’ children ARE NOT THEIR OWN CHILDREN!!!
– Alimony won’t be compensated, if he’ll prove that fact above in court (by DNA test, for example)
– Not all divorce courts consider DNA tests as lawful evidence in court (it depends on region of Russia)
-There won’t be any legal way to bring that self-moving fishy hole to responsibility for fake paternity
– Marriage contract does not work in Russia, and even if man made it abroad it won’t be considered as lawful document in Russian court, ‘cause, you guessed it again – “it can interfere with interests of one of sides in conflict”
– It is very likely, that husband’s kids would be alienated and turned against their father by so called “mother”
– Self-moving c~~~s have a lot of free s~~~ dropped on them by state – maternity leave up to 3 (!!!) years with conservation of workplace, maternity capital (not family, but only for so called “mother”, fathers cannot receive it at all) for 2 kids (~ 7600 USD), which can be used to buy house or to deposit it sum on “mother’s” pension account. Also there is monthly payments from state for some other s~~~, and bingo – there is legal status of SINGLE MOTHER, fixed in laws!!! And this status provides even more free s~~~ dropped by state. Divorce court does not neither reduce amount of payments, nor ban any kind of status. More than that, that self-moving c~~~ can obtain state awards as medal of motherhood, order of mother’s glory and mother-heroine without any distinction in status in comparison with self-moving c~~~s, who made the same in marriage!!!
– Self-moving fishy hole can legally make abortion for free (by state money, of course, and it is fixed in laws; abortion provided so easily, as to say, as medical examination of therapist) without agreement, consent or notification of father or husband. Number of abortions does not affect outcome of divorce court decision or any other payments or status
– All of that s~~~ is happening in Russia since 1917 communist coup, which immediately destroyed remnants of patriarchy in Russia by feminism in laws. For example, there was a Decree on the nationalization of women, that legally considered all self-moving c~~~s as common property! Here are some excerpts from it:
“Since March 1, 1918 in the city of Vladimir, the private right to own women has been abolished (marriage abolished as a prejudice of the old capitalist system). All women are declared independent and free. Every girl under the age of 18 is guaranteed the full inviolability of her personality. “Vigilance Committee” and “Bureau of Free Love.””
“Any girl who has reached the age of 18 years is declared the property of the republic. She must be registered with the “Bureau of Free Love” under the “Committee of Vigilance” and have the right to choose her partner among men from 19 years old up to 50 years old as temporary roommate-companion. Note. The consent of a man is not required. The man, to whom the choice fell, has no right to protest. Likewise, this right is also granted to men in choosing among girls who have reached the age of 18 years.”
“The right to choose a temporary partner is granted once a month. “Bureau of free love” saves its autonomy.”
Can you imagine what sh~~show was happening back then?
– Alimony and “single mother’s” payment was implied in 1926, maybe even earlier, and I think Russia is the first country in the world that was forcibly infested with feminism and divorce court system. So you guys can write it down: Divorce court – destroying families since 1926!
– And this s~~~storm is going to be worsened by implication of plans to set alimony up to 25 years (now it is 18 years in Russia), banning DNA tests, and other abhorrent vile s~~~.

Despite the fact that I only made a tiny scratch on a vast ice surface of this of sh~~ty dark waters, I hope that my work would be useful for you, guys. I think at least these bits of knowledge would be useful in order to understand what had happened in Russia, what is happening, what would be happening in the world and how to change it to our own advantage if needed.
Thanks for reading!

[Golgotha777Participant]

I don’t know if you’re relatively new to MGTOW but I recommend some of the classic youtube channels, Stardusk, Barbarossa, TurdFlingingMonkey, etc.

The older stuff is really good, I might just go back and watch some of TFM’s archive.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

When you get down to the core of mgtow, you come face to face with biological determinism. I watched the Stardusk Compilation over and over until I understood this. Here are helpful videos of what mgtow is in my view. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6LSuPWDeAAXb_mT1t0zBMOsyAw0a8YRI

Essential Barbarossa MGTOW content

MGTOW know that we are not going to be able to re-write female nature. We bred the intelligence out of them. Their hypergamy and other undesirable characteristics were evolved. Its done.

MRA’s do not think along these lines because it is antithetical to their religious ideals. They don’t believe in Determinism. They don’t believe in evolution. They don’t want to understand biology and what women are, at the genetic level. Instead, they want to maintain the religious view of how women and men should get on together.

They think women can be salvaged. They think culture and law can be salvaged.

MRA traditional conservatives are a lot like peeing in the wind.

[Anonymous]

You’re absolutely right Trailboss, men are the emotional gender.
“Men are the romantics masquerading as realists and women are the the realists masquerading as romantics”
Barbarossa’s site name “Shedding Of The Ego” says it all! We have to shed our indoctrinated belief systems. It’s the myth we base our egos and self worth on that women use to control us. They have men in a life long hamster wheel of trying to prove they’re REAL MEN.
Men are in perpetual denial of the fact that they’re the emotional ones. Women use this aspect of nature to shame and manipulate.
You can compare many aspect of cats and dogs to women and men but it’s never going to properly illustrate the reality.

Esther Vilar states in “The Manipulated Man”
“We have already mentioned woman’s lack of emotional capacity. The fact that women make every attempt to suppress man’s ability to express his emotions is a certain indication of this. Yet she still contrives to create the myth of feminine depth of feeling and vulnerability.
and
Women really are callous creatures – mainly because it is to their disadvantage to feel deeply. Feelings might seduce them into choosing a man who is no use to them

The latest generation of women are so indoctrinated with entitlement they’re choosing chad f~~~s over beta bucks. It’s got nothing to do with emotions.
They’re so entitled they believe some beta has an obligation to support them when they fall off the c~~~ carousal and hear their clocks ticking. Hence the modern day cry of post wall women, “Where have all the good men gone”

The more distant you become from women, the more you see how sociopathic and calculating they are towards men as resources. Their “emotional” tantrums ALWAYS have a purpose.