MGTOW vs MRA

[TwistParticipant]

Thought this was a fair and balanced study by PE.

MRA vs MGTOW: Explaining the MRM

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

No contest.

The MGTOW wold not step in the arena.

Don’t waste your time.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[MonkParticipant 17021]

MGTOW = Man OUT.

MRA = Man IN.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

The problem with this analysis, as well as the MRAs in general, is that they believe women can be their equal partners. But they are chasing a pipe dream. Forget all the gynocentric laws: women are simply not physically, emotionally, and mentally capable of doing what men can do. Egalitarianism will always fail because it flies in the face of human nature.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I don’t think an apple is superior to an orange. Comparing men and women in this way is futile.

Men and women are all humans and deserving of the same legal human rights listed in the constitution and no more.

Women shouldn’t get custody preference.

Women shouldn’t get sentencing favoritism.

Women shouldn’t get favoritism in school or hiring positions.

Women should be drafted.

The patriarchy is not a real thing and it should be called out for the fake news that it is.

And on and on…

But on the face of it, women are equal under the law with men. In practice the differences are obvious and undeniable.

Other than passing laws what can you do?

These public campaigns against men are just p~~~ing men off.

Thanks feminism.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

MRA = Active appeasement

MGTOW = Passive resistance

[UntamedParticipant]

Thanks for the article, Twist. Nice read and to the point, no bulls~~~ and genuine, just what I’ve come to expect from Paul Elam. I get his points on the differences between MRM, AVFM and MGTOW and I think of the two former ones as ugly cousins to MGTOW because we base our views of weemins on concepts thought of hundreds of years into the past, if not a thousand years, and I believe that trying to “change the narrative” is a sword swipe through a waterfall when all the media are essentially geocentric.
What I agree with him on is that through their actions and giving the femtards knee-jerk reactions they have contributed to swelling the ranks of Red-Pill Men but then again, feminists do the same by sheer hateful stupidity.
Ultimately, I believe MGTOW is the ONLY way Men can regain their sovereignty, pride in themselves and their freedom while MRA and AVFM want to compromise and debate, which is useless when everything that comes out your mouth can and will be used against you in a Court of public opinion.
MGTOW for life or domestic slavery in a C~~~’s Plantation, that’s the reality facing Men nowadays, not some deluded Blue-Pill parrot opinions based on a dangerous hateful ideology.
You could change public opinion but the State and the inJustice system will still be there to gang-rape you on a woeman’s say-so.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[CoolbreezeParticipant 442]

I think the point that MRAs don’t fully grasp is that to fully realize their end state requires rational thinking by the feminist movement, which clearly was not established as a vehicle to achieve equal rights- because last time I checked, men are not even close to being legally equal and now, more than ever, we are becoming less valued socially.

How many times have you seen or heard the “don’t need no man” sentiment?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

MGTOW / MRA is a very important distinction and it’s totally lost on detractors too.

A few years ago, they called everything that wasn’t outright vagina-sucking “anti-feminist”. That didn’t stick ( because women are anti feminist too ), so every red-pill man who didn’t demonstrate weak ass-kissig behavior was now rolled into an “MRA”… “s~~~lord”… etc.

Realtalk is all it is.

This MGTOW/MRA distinction gets exhausting after a while so I started to prefer “s~~~lord” myself. Had a nice ring to it. But now its….

“YOU’RE JUST F~~~ING MISOGYNIST S~~~LORD MRA!!!!”

“You may call me SIR.”.

And just leave it at that.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

MGTOW vs. NOTHING! TRAIL IS OVER!

[Anonymous 54]

Mras want to fix something.

We realize its to f~~~ed up to fix, walk away alone and look for our own greener pastures.

Mras are wrenching on a ford pinto.

I have better things to do with my life.

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

MRA is a romanization of how it should be if xyz had been done, instead of 123.

MGTOW is accepting reality, and continuing to live.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I consider myself an MRA and having gone my own way. In my estimation I have gone my own way for the last 19 years when I got full custody of my son and needed no one except myself to take care of me and my son.

I was on the Fathers Rights side of things and have participated in marches, sign posting, petition signing, letter sending and mainly conscience raising through internet postings.

I posted for years on other sites but they got shut down in the purge of 2012 over the SPLC hate watch report.

Now that my son is raised I find myself on MGTOW.com. I rarely post on mra reddit.

I was always on the extreme rhetorical side of the mra’s. That’s why I don’t post there or associate myself with A Voice for Men.

My leanings is toward the “National Coalition of Men”. This group was invited and met with DeVos when making changes in justice for men falsely accused of rape at college.

They are recognized on a national level.

This is the first step to institutional power. The power to enforce workplace harassment for men justice. The power to change education to include programs good for boys.

Increase funding for prostate cancer and homelessness.

IMO.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[CoolbreezeParticipant 442]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

I consider myself an MRA and having gone my own way. In my estimation I have gone my own way for the last 19 years when I got full custody of my son and needed no one except myself to take care of me and my son.

I was on the Fathers Rights side of things and have participated in marches, sign posting, petition signing, letter sending and mainly conscience raising through internet postings.

I posted for years on other sites but they got shut down in the purge of 2012 over the SPLC hate watch report.

Now that my son is raised I find myself on MGTOW.com. I rarely post on mra reddit.

I was always on the extreme rhetorical side of the mra’s. That’s why I don’t post there or associate myself with A Voice for Men.

My leanings is toward the “National Coalition of Men”. This group was invited and met with DeVos when making changes in justice for men falsely accused of rape at college.

They are recognized on a national level.

This is the first step to institutional power. The power to enforce workplace harassment for men justice. The power to change education to include programs good for boys.

Increase funding for prostate cancer and homelessness.

IMO.

Frankly, it’s time for all of us to support the valuable resource that has long kept us safe from dangerous forces and our society in a state of good repair. History clearly shows that humanity has depended and still depends on men to build, enhance and protect us and our life-sustaining infrastructure.Source

This is what gets me as well.

[Anonymous 54]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

I consider myself an MRA and having gone my own way. In my estimation I have gone my own way for the last 19 years when I got full custody of my son and needed no one except myself to take care of me and my son.

I was on the Fathers Rights side of things and have participated in marches, sign posting, petition signing, letter sending and mainly conscience raising through internet postings.

I posted for years on other sites but they got shut down in the purge of 2012 over the SPLC hate watch report.

Now that my son is raised I find myself on MGTOW.com. I rarely post on mra reddit.

I was always on the extreme rhetorical side of the mra’s. That’s why I don’t post there or associate myself with A Voice for Men.

My leanings is toward the “National Coalition of Men”. This group was invited and met with DeVos when making changes in justice for men falsely accused of rape at college.

They are recognized on a national level.

This is the first step to institutional power. The power to enforce workplace harassment for men justice. The power to change education to include programs good for boys.

Increase funding for prostate cancer and homelessness.

IMO.

I resepct you for being willing to fight the good fight.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Anonymous wrote:

I resepct you for being willing to fight the good fight.

I’m retired. It gives me something to do.

And, I really benefited from the awareness of the judge to the situation of parental alienation by my ex-wife. She accused me of abuse because I told her she wasn’t allowed to pay the bills due to being on serious mind altering medication.

My ex-girlfriend accused me of abuse and called the cops on me and almost got me arrested for calling her father because she had been out all night from my house doing drugs with strangers she met online.

So, I’m aware of some of the issues driving men to go their own way.

If my experience helps one man to avoid a trap, then my time here is well spent.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

MRAs accomplish nothing .

Fk that sht

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[TwistParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

This is the first step to institutional power. The power to enforce workplace harassment for men justice. The power to change education to include programs good for boys.

Increase funding for prostate cancer and homelessness.

Puff, since you are familiar in those circles (legislative), with the recent appointment by Trump of Penny Nance as ambassador for women’s BS, it there any rumbling for creating a corresponding “men and boys” czar? I know this was discussed during Obama’s time, and (of course) deferred. Sorry to be vague, but I am having too good a time watching the Hurricanes hammer the Irish.

thanks

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

I usually like Paul Elam’s style, but this time, I read a lot of paragraphs, and found no substance. What’s he saying? That he’s not trying to change law, and that he’s not trying to completely write off women. So… what is he doing? Because it seems to be those are the only two options.

narrow road traveler wrote:

MRA is a romanization of how it should be if xyz had been done, instead of 123.

MGTOW is accepting reality, and continuing to live.

In other words, MRA = Tradcon.

Now that we have given women equal rights, and see what they do with it, I can say with ease that nature definitely intended for women to be essentially sexual livestock for men. Women are a mess inside and out, and can accomplish absolutely nothing without a man (or surrogate man, ie gubmn’t).

[AttonParticipant]

I think the video on this subject was more comprehensive.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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