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Watch this MundaneMatt video on this movie being trumpeted as some sort of feminist superhero movie:

Apparently a woman dealing with her own inner demons alone is seen as a superhero.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ValleyFever101Participant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Can it be said MGTOW means moving beyond this? If you go MGTOW, I would say you don’t care about having an alpha to follow. But, do you care even you have followers? Any thoughts here? Does anyone care here to have a bunch of followers? I believe part revolt to the whole “neomasculity” thing being pushed, besides it being repackaged PUA, is there is an implied “do this to be alpha”. So, your thoughts?  

I don’t think terms like “alpha male” or “beta male” really would apply to human beings anyway, at least not in most structured “civilized” settings.  It’s all based on artificial contrivances, not anything truly natural.

For instance, in disaster movies, one might see which characters would be considered “alpha” before the disaster.  But then after the disaster hits, when all the contrivances are gone and the insulated urban “comfort zone” no longer exists, then “alphas” and “betas” tend to line up along a more natural pattern.  The instinct for survival will always trump the instinct to get laid, and this is where most of the “alpha”/”beta” discussion gets a bit skewed and somewhat off the mark.

In contrast, when we are in our urban comfort zone (which might be most of the time for most of us), then good citizens are expected to conform to society’s standards for acceptable and civilized behavior.  We are socialized along these lines from birth, and in many households and sub-cultures in this country, one might face sanctions or punishment for not conforming and not behaving according to the principles of society and civilization.

Those who might be regarded as “alpha males” are those who may have been too indulged in their youth and never actually got the lessons that the “beta males” received on how to behave properly in a civilized society.  The “alpha males” clearly know this and take advantage of the fact that “betas” have been conditioned to behave in a legal and morally predictable pattern that the “alphas” depend upon.

The “alpha” is not deriving his alleged strength or power from anything natural.  His position is analogous to an armed criminal entering a community where he knows guns have been banned.  He knows that the law-abiding “betas” will be unarmed, giving the “alpha” the advantage.  But the power is not really his.  The “power” derives from the larger society and the rules of civilization which he is deliberately flouting.  In that sense, the “alpha male” is really nothing more than a spoiled child relying solely upon parental indulgence and the belief that society won’t really punish him too severely for misbehavior.

And given our society’s rather soft and permissive attitude towards criminality and other forms of bad behavior, they somehow manage to get away with it, all the while pounding their chests at being an “alpha male.”  But it’s a total crock.

What I find somewhat amusing is that, whenever a so-called “beta male” stands his ground or fights back against the “alpha,” suddenly the “alpha” acts like a victim and starts whining.  Once the “alpha” is exposed as the fraud that he is, his true colors start to show.

It’s just like in the movie Casino when all the top bosses were arrested.  The “alpha males” at the top of the pyramid, when facing trial and a possibly long prison sentence, showed up in court looking seriously ill, with oxygen masks and doctors standing by.  They looked like a bunch of scared cowards, afraid to stand up and say “Yes, we did it!”  That’s definitely not “alpha male” behavior, and yet, this is how popular culture would define it.  If they were truly “alpha,” they wouldn’t have to hide what they do or fear the consequences of getting caught.

[AncientwisdomParticipant]

S~~~: Im single and do this. I thought it was man dealing with the (f~~~ed up) world handed to him. Correct me if Im wrong (other) single dudes?

Myself? Been dealt some good hands and massively poor ones in life. The latter trumped the former, and YES alcohol has been an easing mechanism. It is what it is. But I differ from women for recognizing cause and effect.

Id be shocked if MOST men on here dont use the drink. Im honest with myself, and anyone who cares to ask. Glad you did.

Resident cynic.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

MgtowWave wrote:

Women being used for status? B.S.! Women want to be with and be seen being with men who have status. Female psychology 101 :hypergamy . Women want to be with the Donald Trumps and George Bushes and Al Capones of the world. Men who are unsuccessful in life and with women are shunned, shamed and rejected even further. Women who are unsuccessful get a lot more sympathy and compassion. There are special programs just for women who want to go into STEM. Governments like in China spend money helping women find mates and husbands. Men are either successful or they are a POS. Women not so much.

Ok, please take what I said about woman as accessories, more of an image the media pushes to make a guy look successful, than a reality.  And my discussing it was an attempt to try to clarify if a MGTOW would even give a flip about that at all.  It looks like it got derailed.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[MgtowWaveParticipant]

Women being used for status?

B.S.!

Women want to be with and be seen being with men who have status.

Female psychology 101 :hypergamy  .

Women want to be with the Donald Trumps and George Bushes and Al Capones of the world.

Men who are unsuccessful in life and with women are shunned,  shamed and rejected even further.

Women   who are unsuccessful get a lot more  sympathy and compassion. There are special programs just for women who want to go into STEM. Governments like in China spend money helping women find mates and husbands.

Men are either successful or they are a POS. Women not so much.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MitzrealParticipant]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I aslo dont need a false dichotomy, based on bull s~~~ premises. If Im going to choose my OWN way, Ill choose it on my own

@ancient The dichotomy you see about red vs. blue is not a true dichotomy, its merely a metaphor for the paradigm shift that happens when you wake up to reality. What you’re arguing over has not real point (as far as antagonism and argument go). It serves merely to bring higher concepts down to a level easily understood for all men (a common denominator that you seek).

As far as the common denominator of MGTOW in my opinion (and only mine) it is realization that your life is yours and that there for your desires, wishes, and very sovereignty trump everything from the biological imperative (the need to find a woman and make babies, i.e. natures desire for a species to propagate) to the social propaganda that tells man to be a worthless and disposable producer to feed the government machine and their chained voting slaves…

False dichotomies are annoying, I get that but not everyone is capable of seeing reality color blind, in truth all of life’s situations are endless shades of gray.

However to be a sovereign being you must take a stand, you must define those things for which you live and in which you believe. This requires turning a monochrome world of higher thought and philosophy into a duochrome world of black and white.

Live your mental and spiritual life in the world of grays if that pleases you, but to successfully navigate the minefield that is modern life/society/and legal system one must carry this set of black and white tinted lenses. These lenses allow you to distinguish the traps from the trails… This doesn’t mean your philosophy or even life has to be black and white merely that in order to discern what is best for you and what is harmful the black and white lenses are necessary.

[RoyDalParticipant]

No, I am not surprised. She has all the trump cards in the game of political correctness. Her victims do not.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

RedHeadedStranger wrote:

o yeah man, I get it, she was a bitch. she tried project pure rationality when interviewed. she loved to ‘play the bad guy’ by taking the hard line in interviews. when doing interviews, she went for sensationalism and emphasized the trader principle — even regarding love — in order to cause a stir and cause people to talk about her. she sold a several tons of books. listen man, i’m not gunna badger you any more on this. I was just glad to hear that someone here was interested and I took the opportunity to clear up a misconception that I saw in your post. If I failed then I failed. not the first time, lol.

She was pretty much a Diva, which I guess happens to a woman if too many men worship the ground she walks on, which is apparently what happened to her.  And if you ever even turned on her, she would go into bitch mode, which is what she did with William F Buckley Jr., blacklisting him.

I will admit I do have more to read up on, as I have to work more of the Objectivist side of life anyhow, in regards to self-determination, and get a broader perspective.  I am there. Self-Determination is a core value of living MGTOW, once a guy gets past the hang up with women, it is what follows.  I just happened to have been trumpeting more collectivism for years, doing stuff with Occupy and so on, and I was left with an empty bag.  But, I press on.  I do see in MGTOW stuff though, that ends up more balanced with things, men coming from all over who had enough.  My hope is that MGTOW has MGTOWN (Men Going Their Own Way Network), and not have the your own way be a position of continued abuse.  I see with men, they will play the womanizer card, and PUA thing as a way to put down other men and show where they are on the food chain.  I saw that in Kanye West’s reworking of Daft Punk’s Bigger, Stronger, to end up talking about how his conquest and so on.

I guess in this, let me say I am likely to have a more balanced view of Objectivism, and won’t say one can’t be a giver and an Objectivist.  For me, I do believe to survive one has to think of others and connect and have things other want.  I say that while struggling to be genuine and also connect in the marketplace with others.  I also don’t consider the chatting being badgered.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know about pendants but as a sign I am going my way this will be the next wedding ring I purchase for some unlucky little strumpet.

-$ 1.79

https://www.google.com/#q=toy+wedding+rings&tbm=shop&spd=16049616305773209170

That’s one dollar over budget but it’s a wedding, let’s splurge.

[treelville..miamiParticipant]

The state already pays off college debt for single moms and theres no shortage of those. You see em everywhere now, its like they’re having babies as a vacation and or career choice. I seen this with my ex all she did was eat and sleep all day while she was pregnant, bitch made one phone call and ALL of her college debt was consolidated.

So Women control the majority of the wealth also manage the stores and corporations (which they should not be doing, men should) but men are the ones producing, if men decide to walk then there’ll be no product therefore no corporations or stores to manage basically the machine will break down. I feel men still hold the trump card they’re just waiting for the oppurtune time to use it. I could be wrong and in that case we’ll just have to make the best of it and bunker down.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Well there you have it gents. Proof that Roosh has lost his mind and it’s a level of hypocrisy only trumped by a fat army of feminists.

In an article entitled: “Warning Signs A Girl Isn’t Worth A Relationship” he says (direct quote – no need to link)

There is absolutely no reason for a girl to tell a man “you should…” ever. It insinuates that not only are you currently doing something wrong, but that she knows more than you, which is extremely unlikely. She is free to say, “Have you thought of…” or “What do you think about…” but the moment she brings out the word “should,” a synonym of “must,” I know she’s a arrogant c~~~ who thinks she knows more than she really does. The only things I should or must do are pay my taxes and die.

And now it’s:

They must be restrained and managed by rules or by those who know what’s best for that individual more than the individual himself.

Together with “Don’t Tell A Man What Type Of Woman He Should Be Attracted To”….
…. he has turned himself into a zero credibility piece of s~~~.

Or more accurately, according to his own definition, he’s an: “arrogant c~~~ – who thinks he knows more than he really does”.

For somebody who posits its unacceptable to tell a man what to do, say, and think, right down to who to be attracted to, he successfully made a joke out of himself pretending to know what’s best for the individual more than the individual himself.

You have to wonder if his mother had any children that lived.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Lord VatsParticipant]

tofu916 wrote:

20’s is for learning, 30’s is for earning…

Totally a myth bro! 20s is for working 80 hrs a week like a dog. Only then, you get to earn those really big bucks in 30s. The sooner people realize this, the better. For e.g. My cousin has friends who chase skirts 4 days a week while he’s working hard and getting so good at his job that it isn’t even funny anymore. He’s in running for VP a bulge bracket Investment Bank. Not to say he doesn’t have a social life, he goes out two days a week religiously.

20s is the time when you can really put in the hours because your body can take the punishment. Try doing that in 30s and you’ll end up killing yourself. Remember men age like wine, women age like milk. A 30ish man with a tax free million $ put away in the Caymans is a pussy magnet. When you have a million $, you don’t even need to pretend about “game”. You have a natural f-you game that men in 20s can never have.

20s aren’t supposed to be easy, college isn’t supposed to be easy. If you scooted through 20s easily, then you are setting yourself to fail in the long run.
It’s hard not to, because people always tell you that you are young, energetic and can conquer the world. You’ll have enough time to make money later, just enjoy your youth for now. Those people are bulls~~~ters and you should delete their contacts from your phone and never see them again.

Get up and dust yourself off buddy, you were suckered into marriage but you are free now. It not too late for money, power, glory, and happiness. You can start a minimum wage job now and still make ends meet because you’re not carrying dead weight. But you already have a career which is good. Put in the hours and enjoy the life.
Always remember that hard work trumps everything (intelligence, talent, connections…).

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant]

Fermat271 Wrote: This formula though intended to be more of a jest than anything serious has hidden nuggets of truth I don’t think you realize.

I have read HRP’s previous post involving math logic and I would give (two to one) odds (one time only) that he does realize those nuggets of truth are there…he has drawn a map and put an X to mark the spot… having money trumps every other part of the equation.. ie.  With enough money nothing else matters..looks, workhorse variables, fame or status, age, sexual prowess or anything else you may toss into the math problem that is sexual market value…(Daddy’s credit card syndrome)

 

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[MgtowWaveParticipant]

Fighting feminism(for men) is a waste of time.Really only to be engaged in as a hobby for fun.

Its like swinging a stick at bees.They will continue to buzz around looking for a place person animal or thing  to sting and you will accomplish nothing.All you are doing is giving them a reason to buzz around.

A huge part of their strategy and tactics is to use anything to claim to be a victim. so in fighting them you are giving them what they want.The impression of being oppressed.

To a person who is religiously or politically convinced that 1+1=3 you cannot use reason and logic to convince them that 1+1=2 because they are using emotional reasoning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_reasoning

THEY WILL BELIEVE YOU ARE TRYING TO DAMN THEM TO HELL AND HORRIBLE SUFFERING FOR ALL ETERNITY.

They do and will fight with violence.They will fight with  shaming, with fear ,with anger, with chanting in the street, with chanting on college campuses and burning bras ..Anything and everything.

the other part of this equation that the MRAs ignore is  how feminism propagates is simply female and human nature.

With our modern technology ,with our modern political systems ,At the very time women perceive that men arent necessary for day to day life ,women do and will abandon men.Showing that men really have very little real value to women as human beings.

Added to that women ,have an innate psychological  in group bias for women.Men do not have such a bias for men.In fact if anything men have a bias in favor of women.

Think about it.

If a woman were to go on line somewhere and say “Im so lonely and horney that i want to kill myself” How many people would react and want to do something to help?

vs

If a man were to go on line somewhere and say “Im so lonely and horney that i want to kill myself” How many people would react and want to do something to help?

or

A man in danger.

vs

A woman in danger.

Who give a f~~~ about men ?Who does and will have greater priority ?

Man you better take care of your self vs woman hold on help is on the way.

Thats reality.

It is a human psychological mechanism to help women ,no matter what their perceived problem, bulls~~~ or not and feminism uses this neatly and nicely and it fits into human nature like an old glove.

Feminists very well know this.

Women claim oppression and modern governments and people will spend their life savings and their great,great,great grandkids tax money to help no matter how much bulls~~~ it may turn out to be.

Directly and openly and overtly fighting feminism is just what they want.It bounces right off their  shields and defenses like a rock thrown by a child at a main battle tank  and feeds their offensive capabilitys .

Which is- “Some woman hating kitten eating MRA used logic and then he called me a c~~~ and told me to get out of his face at a warren farrel   lecture so call out the marines and the army and radfem hub and everyone who reads the scum manifesto”

Logic is abuse LOL http://shrink4men.com/2011/10/18/an-immodest-proposal-domestic-violence-groups-claim-the-use-of-logic-by-men-is-abuse/

This causes an arms race between MRAs and feminists.Feminists have gynocentrism on their side.Gynocentrism is a trump card.

Innocent men and boys pay the price.

So now MRAs have sling shots and drive 1960s era VW bugs to battle and feminists have main battle tanks and modern infantry and air support.

 

MRAs will never win and at least some of them know it.elam will be living it up on donations and feminism will still be here long after he is gone.Thats just a fact of human nature.

Feminists will get millions from governments.

The only way to win this game is to opt out and not play.

Opt out and Go Your Own Way.

If your walking down the sidewalk alone and some woman is walking towards you give her a wide birth.

If your walking down the sidewalk with a friend and some woman is walking towards you and your friend is talking about pinching her ass as you walk by walk away from him too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[FreeGhostSpectator]

Men and women have close to equal IQ’s but there are more outliers from the average for men. There are more low IQ and high IQ males along the bell curve than females, this explains why nearly all inventions are by males. Society values attractive women because they are healthy matches for breeding, especially big butts and big t~~~ and are excellent marketing pawns. Intelligence is obviously valued by society for males, but less so as wealth continues to be unequally distributed to the top 20% of income earners. I am not advocating communism/leftist ideologies but our current political system is unfair under crony capitalism. It’s better to be born Donald Trumps son with an IQ of 125 than a relatively nobody with an IQ of 145 even being a graduate in the STEM fields.

[treelville..miamiParticipant]

Brotherhood is everlasting, it trumps any fickle slut pact/bond that women pretend to have.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[RedHeadedStrangerParticipant]

Google/Wiki the non-aggression principle.  I’ll sum it up; but won’t do it justice.  One shouldn’t INITIATE the use of force against another person.  Force includes: assault, fraud, and threats.  This means, that you shouldn’t beat someone’s ass, you shouldn’t cheat or steal, and you shouldn’t threaten to beat their ass, cheat, or steal from them.  This is the basis of english common law and maritime law.

Of course, if someone initiates force against you by fighting, cheating, stealing, or threatening you; go ahead and kick the s~~~ out of them, then take back what they stole from you, and threaten to beat their ass again if they ever again try that s~~~ on  you.

Like I said there is more to it, and there are some famous exceptions.  For example, if you are in a life or death situation, and the only way for you to survive is to steal, then it is not immoral to steal (survival is the purpose of morality, so it trumps morality) — but only if you take full responsibility and admit to your action and (if at all possible) make reparations plus damages to the person from whom you stole.  In such a case, your initial action would be considered an amoral action, not an immoral action.

Also, sometimes a situation is so f~~~ed up that you have no choice but to ‘violate’ the non-aggression principle.  Where there is no free choice, there is no morality.  So if someone is going to kill you unless you club an old man to death, you are not violating the non-aggression principle by complying.  This sounds odd at first, but remember, where there is no free will, there is no culpability.  The blood is on the hands of the f~~~tard that put you in the situation, you simply did what you had to do.  Again, your action would be considered amoral, not immoral.

There are volumes more to say on this topic, and I have probably fuct it up horribly.  So please wiki it.

 

 

[BrainPilotParticipant]

Even the traditional marriage vows say, “Love, honor, and cherish…”.

Trust is not mentioned.

I believe one reason for this is that once you are at the altar, they already own you. It no longer matters if you trust them anymore or not. It’s too late to do anything about it. The trust of a man is only relevant insomuch as it is necessary to get him to the church. Once he’s committed, she already owns everything of value that there is to be owned.

The other thing the article does not mention is that trust must be earned. I trust things that are based on reason, logic and science. But these things take some effort and some discipline, and they don’t always produce results that serve my own interests. But based on my experience with them, I have found them to be the most reliable sources of accurate (aka trustworthy) information.

Also based on my experience, what comes out of a woman’s mouth is generally based on emotion and designed to maximally serve their own self interest. Their own self interest trumps accuracy, logic, honor, law, morality and reason. It is also generally isolated from accountability. In this, they have much in common with what comes from the mouths of little children, so I grant both a similar degree of (mis)trust.

I am certain that if I say this out loud near a woman, she will use that same mouth to try to make this mistrust my fault. The difference between me and a man who’s been lured into those vows is that while we both have to hear to that crap, I don’t have to pretend to listen or believe it in order to have a peaceful home to live in. As long as I don’t trust them enough to let them in, my goals are already achieved.

Declining to trust women is not the problem, it’s the solution.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Notice her first response to my saying NO. Not even an apology or “gosh I’m really sorry. I … “.

She just starts in with “I’m interested in….” as if her interests trump everything.
F~~~. How is that even possible.

What’s the point in even asking the question(?) “are you guys open to this”? when she simply won’t accept “NO”. Why ask! Just be a c~~~ and come right on in! Too used to getting her own way. Can’t even imagine hearing a “no”.

“Are you open for some sex tonight?”

“No”

“I respect that. But I’m gonna f~~~ you anyway.”

Jesus Christ.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous]

I think most men are actively seeking a way to blot out the truth about women. There is now no shortage of magazine and newspaper articles about the dangers of marriage that most men know about it.

It is some form of mental illness similar to Stockholm syndrome whereby seemingly intelligent men forget all good reason and throw away their lives for some mousy little strumpet with a pig for lineage and the education of a horses ass.

This syndrome should be in the DSM VI.

I’m open to ideas about what we name this temporary psychosis that afflicts men when meeting a hot young female leading to disastrous life consequences.

(Example: See George Clooney)

George Clooney and Amal Alamuddin are getting a divorce – it isn’t a question of “if” they will end their four month marriage – but more a question of “when.” When George Clooney wed human rights attorney Amal Alamuddin in November 2014, the world was shocked because the couple had literally nothing in common and Amal despised the Hollywood scene. Now, Amal is starting to realize what we knew all along – George Clooney is never going to give up his A-List status in Hollywood and celebrity pals to follow her and her career around the globe.