Aaron Clarey – I Can't Believe This Guy is Against MGTOW

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I honestly believe this cat might be one of us; perhaps he simply hasn’t discovered it yet.

All roads lead to MGTOW and to Monk as the end-point.

Monk by choice, no by TFL.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[UntamedParticipant]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

A few of you disagree w/me, which is interesting.

I don’t disagree with you, what he says is MGTOW – to a certain extent – but he doesn’t believe it, he’s just selling it.

Ancientwisdom wrote:

What aspects of his philosophy do you guys think aren’t MGTOW (apart from his anti-MGTOW video, obviously) ?

I haven’t watched enough to discuss his philosophy, I’ve watched enough to think he’s fake.
Maybe he’s facial expressions and mannerisms rub me the wrong way, I don’t know, they don’t match what he says. There’s something about him…

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

What’s the deal w/him that so many of you have a problem?

He is somewhat preachy like a woman.

Anonymous wrote:

Like slapping people in the face.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

sidecar wrote:

He’s anti-MGTOW because he’s a whore with a product to sell.

And MGTOW don’t need his product. MGTOW will never be his customers. In fact everything he tries to sell, MGTOW give away for free.

(He also has some definite trad-con leanings, so there’s that as well.)

tl;dr: f~~~ him

This.

Aaron is selling his product, which is “become rich, be financially independent and f~~~ bitches left and right. Be a player, enjoy the ride!”.
Aaron is a PUA, therefore, when MGTOW come with the idea that you don’t need no women, and if you don’t need women, you can have a more fulfilling life, without the need to get rich and waste your life doing what you don’t want to do, it is an enemy to him.

Aaron is a PUA, and he supports a few of the MRA propositions.

And, like Untamed and Sidecar said, f~~~ him.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

How/why is he a ‘loser’; and by the way, you misspelled ‘loser’. It’s with 1 ‘o’ NOT two ‘oo’ s.

So much for being a “lOOser”.

Again, how is he a loser? <–correct spelling for the “lOOser’s.

If your going to make superfluous attacks, you better make sure your not superficially retarded.

Thanks for the correction, dude. I really appreciate your help! Now zip your lip and get lost. Your work is done.
I hope it doesn’t count as a superfluous attack?

Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Jesus F~~~ING CHRIST. LOOSER. LOOSER LOOSER.

Looser-> Imickey5o3 for NEVER using SPELL CHECK when I need to make a point, and not look like an idiot.

I guess it a part of my charm.

And for the record, Clary does have to watch his tone. You can say what you want about women, but as long as it meets the legal boundaries, he’s good. He has a lawyer, and he has used him in the past. THAT MUCH I DO KNOW.

Again, he is actually one of google adsense partners as well. So he has some skin in the game, and so does google.

It’s one just ONE of the reasons why I have not been taken offline. I sell amplifiers, and do computer consulting for some very large IT firms that work with google in the past as well as PR shots for Product placement.

There is a guidebook of how to keep yourself off the radar. It’s not really a written manual, just a way around the usual tactics in use.

And as far as Cleary, (Love his books) if he’s not MGTOW or disses on us MGTOW WHO CARES?

The idea is to ghost and go under the radar. You do know that there is one ONION who happens to be one of the bigger TUbers out there is STRAIGHT UP a MGTOW with a pussy addiction.

He got Burnt like f~~~, I gave him some advice, and he’s doing well by treating women like s~~~. And things are going great.

The more knowledge you have about women the more freedom you have. And when you have nothing to lOOSE. THERE I DID IT.

Might as well go for it. Women love cheaters and assholes. It gives them a sense of validiy. Throw in a new chick in there, and women do not want to fight other women. Its a loosing battle.

Anyways, I still stand by what I said. I don’t give a f~~~ what he does, but this dude is no fool. You do things to attract an audience. ANGRYMGTOW did the same thing by telling women to go to hell, and he still is one of the first to always get publicity.

ANd I deeply apologize for the lack of literary sophistication of my very Poorly written and non complete arguments. And, THANK YOU for helping me be better.
That’s not a sarcasm. That’s the truth.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Suggestius wrote:

Ancientwisdom wrote:

How/why is he a ‘loser’; and by the way, you misspelled ‘loser’. It’s with 1 ‘o’ NOT two ‘oo’ s.

So much for being a “lOOser”.

Again, how is he a loser? <–correct spelling for the “lOOser’s.

If your going to make superfluous attacks, you better make sure your not superficially retarded.

Thanks for the correction, dude. I really appreciate your help! Now zip your lip and get lost. Your work is done.
I hope it doesn’t count as a superfluous attack?

Now now boys, No one needs to bring out…

GRAMMAR NAZI!

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Untamed wrote:

There’s something about him…

May be its…
https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Maybe+its+maybelline_dafaea_4062800.jpg

Meh, who cares. Nothing wrong with drinking or chasing women. If it’s what you want to do, you know the risks.

It’s like Popp. If you just saw his work on youtube, you would just think he was just another hat trying to make a buck.

Look into his 501c, and tell me he got anywhere. He did not. And Guys still come here saying, “HI I’M A LAWYER Shmoo! AND I WANT TO HELP”

We all know we have 2 faces.

One is are “o” face, and the other is serious MAN is Serious.

The best depiction of this was in the harry Potter books.

Sometimes, the thing you love, you must be someone else.

It is why some of us welcome our insults. And suffer in our own prisons. We do it for more then some people will ever know.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

Aaron thinks that he gets laid. Believes it, to a point where he talks about it (in two of his books).

And as a result and in a way to validate and attempt to make it remotely believable:

He says that he is anti-MGTOW. Because he thinks distancing himself from MGTOW, by default makes his claims at getting laid more plausible.

It’s not his fault. He’s just so stuck on trying to convince the world that women ride his c~~~ that he uses his anti-MGTOW stance to try to bolster his claim and delusional narrative that he gets laid and has sex.

[Veritech AceParticipant 699]

Aaron Clarey turned anti-MGTOW when he sided with AVFM back when Elam and Barbarossa were having their spat. Bar Bar eventually started advocating a split from the MRA because it became clear that there was an ideological impasse. Here’s the relevant video where he called for that split:

It was around that time of that split when Clarey sided with the MRA and started calling MGTOWs “virgin-TOW,” and it is widely believed that Clarey involved if not responsible for doxxing Bar Bar. Clarey can eat a back of dicks for all I care.

Here’s the 2 hour video that Bar Bar refers to in the previous video in case you’re interested:

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Keep in mind, Tom Leykis used to promote Aaron Clarey because Aaron sponsored his shows. And since Tom never identified as a MGTOW, but as a PUA, it’s easy to see the path that Aaron (also a PUA) would take exception to MGTOW even if he himself gave MGTOW type advice about financial independence.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Just another pussy-chaser…

[Anonymous 0]

Men need marriage like a fish needs a bicycle.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I tend to agree w/most of what he says

What he’s selling is largely common sense, so it’s to be expected that you’d agree with most of it. However he’s still trying to sell it, and therein lies his problem. He’s trying to sell something that cost him nothing and which can (and should) be had elsewhere for free. That makes him a whore.

– w/the exception of his anti-MGTOW vid.

Someone paid him to make every single one of those videos he’s posted, because there one born every minute. However everything he says can be learned (or refuted) right here, on these forums, for free. So of course he’s going to trash talk MGTOW, and do everything he can to keep men away from it. Because every man who Goes His Own Way is a potential mark lost to him.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Anonymous wrote:

Clarey is basically MGTOW in his life philosophy, except he doesn’t believe in the “no women” part. This is basically the same as my outlook, at this point.

Who made the rule no woman for MGTOW??
I will tell you who. NOBODY!!

Don’t marry, don’t cohabitate, don’t (unwillingly) procreate. That’s MGTOW and no more.

So where is the line between MGTOW and PUA?
That’s the real question.
I don’t think any of us will agree on the answer.
Unless the answer is go your own way and make-up your own mind about it.
I agree to that.
My way is only rule of MGTOW I follow.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

FrostByte wrote:

So where is the line between MGTOW and PUA?

PUA put effort into getting laid. They are all about playing the “game”. They judge a man based on how many women he’s f~~~ed.

MGTOW know putting effort into getting laid is counterproductive. They’ve learned the only way to win the “game” is to stop playing it. They judge a man based on how many women haven’t f~~~ed him.

That being said, I know for a fact that some MGTOW get laid all the time. Far more than any PUA. We just know it doesn’t mean anything.

[Anonymous 2]

I don’t get how a man can realize that the game is completely rigged in favor of women, yet go around shaming men that refuse to play the game. It’s basically saying “Just stay on the plantation, and if you keep asking your female masters to stop treating you as a disposable and treat you fairly, they will.”

It’s sheer idiocy. You don’t get a bully off your back by continuing to give him your lunch money every day and saying, “Please stop bullying me! Pretty please!” You get the bully off your back by standing up for yourself and saying “I’m not going to take this s~~~ anymore!”

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

sidecar wrote:

That being said, I know for a fact that some MGTOW get laid all the time. Far more than any PUA. We just know it doesn’t mean anything.

Yes, what I said in my earlier post. These PUA (fake-wealth) guys get jealous and p~~~ed when women give you attention without any effort on your part.

These PUA’s have to jump trough burning hoops to get pussy and you get it thrown at you for free.

It makes these guys mad when the loser from school suddenly “steals their show”. (They silently wished they still had you as a friend but they f~~~ed it up back then by insulting you and making your life miserable)

Yes, 1-2 decades later, the loser/loner from long ago is suddenly wealthy and gets pussy attention without any PUA’ing.

And we get so much, we no longer worship it.

LOL.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s sheer idiocy. You don’t get a bully off your back by continuing to give him your lunch money every day and saying, “Please stop bullying me! Pretty please!” You get the bully off your back by standing up for yourself and saying “I’m not going to take this s~~~ anymore!”

Yes, we ACTIVE MGTOW forum participants and video content creators are some kind of “Rights activists” by actively speaking up for our rights and bringing dysfunctional social patterns to a wider audience.

But we are not fighting “for things to get better”, as the MRA does but we fight for our own sovereignty and self-ownership as men.

Passive resistance – staying away from the plantation and drying up the well – WILL make things move.

They can no longer poison a well that has dried up…

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

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