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An oath of celibacy is crazy. Monks are celibate by default, by happen-chance of just doing their own thing and sex never occurring.
In my opinion, an oath of celibacy is an extremely strong choice, but is not necessarily a sign of craziness/insanity, as it may be well-reasoned (or not); it would only be classified as being ‘insane’ my blue-pill standards.
In my opinion, men who take an oath of celibacy should also be classified as being MGTOWs.
This is a very interesting topic.
but is not necessarily a sign of craziness/insanity,
Yes, I was using the term crazy, loosely. An oath of celibacy is no big deal, like a personal struggle or goal. For it to be used to define MGTOW is excessive. That was where I look back now and laugh at myself. Too passionate lol.
GravelPit – Thank you for clarifying, again. It has been interesting, getting your point-of-view, which I understand now.
So basically you admit that you’re a troll, and that you’ve been here before. Duly noted. Probably the most genuine thing you’ve said in this thread. Sad that you are just an empty vessel for a video’s talking points since you can’t argue anything of substance without pointing to some youtube channel as your defense for an argument. I was skeptical of you when you arrived here. I’ll bet your intro wasn’t even legit. Now that I’ve given you enough rope and you’ve exposed yourself with it, I think it’s officially time to call for a punt.
Mr. El C~~~o Punto (IRULEME),
Listen my friend. I’m not pulling rank or bossing anyone around. I’m defending the classic MGTOW, period. I come clean since the beginning about who Iam, why I’m here, what I stand for.
I started this profile last October, after a 2 year absence from this site.
I came back because yall were posting about a Dallas Meet Up for mgtow. In my city. That was awesome as far as I was concerned. Id been a mgtow for over 4 years and never once met another one. I had no idea it had developed over here to that extent.
Aren’t you also in Dallas? And didn’t all of you guys totally wimp out and not show up to your own meet up, (you refused to announce the location because you’re afraid of lesbians).
And what did I do? I came out, unafraid and said where Id be and when id be there. I made the Dallas meet public and I showed up wearing my face. Where were yall?
So don’t come here and say stuff like, we’re ready to punt him… I’m a man going his own way, crucified through fire for years bro. I belong here. I have the brass to show up in public, announce it prior and show up. You do not! You are hiding behind the profile calling for banishment when you yourself didn’t have the b~~~~ to show up and meet a fellow mgtow brother.
Whatever man. I’m still here. Still in Dallas. Still outcasted by people who have been in mgtow half the time I have, who have digested half the content I have.
You’re the guy going on dates and s~~~ and then reporting back to us about it. And my reaction is, why the hell are you going on dates? this is mgtow.
Around the time Sandman and Thinking Ape had that show down about marketing and the MGTOW Man CAves, wallowing in filth and misery…that whole s~~~show which resulted in MGTOW Messenger changing his name to Messenger Rising.
That was when mgtow changed and became a diluted form of itself. That was where good friends went separate ways, when good men here, for no reason at all, started banishing eachother… you weren’t even here yet dude.
Stop saying, we should punt someone…. you know, Ive never once ever, in 3 profiles and 3 years of coming here, ever recommended someone be booted. Ive also never come across a woman on here either…. its rare. I’m sure they exist but jeez, stop trying to get people kicked off.
When you see those “Holier than thou” people, avoid them like plague.
Same applied to these “MGTOWier than thou” people.
post of the day.
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
Womin shame men and womin who don’t act how they want. The last thing any man should do to another man is shame him into expected behavior.
Anonymous38So now we have “classic MGTOW” as opposed to those who associate with women, with the same man telling us he’s gagging for some poon… Lol. And a self professed “real awakened” by a close minded douchebag. Great laughs lads!
Mgtow isn’t going anywhere, we’ll be here and you have plenty of time to:
A. Go live with a woman get her prego
B. Avail yourself of classic mgtow content. Start with Manwomanmyth, Barbarossa and Stardusk.
Watch ALL of it. It will take you weeks. We’ll still be here.
Then come back and tell me that Mgtow can be married or date casually. At the very least, that definition is disingenuous.
We’re not telling men what to do, we’re defining a term that honestly shifted quite a bit in less than 5 years.
I think this website and a few content producers stayed true to it.
Im not mad about it. Its an old debate. I actually posted an old chat on MGTOW day that actually promotes going back out and seeing women. I even uploaded it to Youtube since Spetsnaz took it down.
I just like to bring it up (classic Mgtow) because I believe we’re going to see a revival of just plain ghosting relationships and sex all-together.
If you want to go back to women, watch atuff like this:
Validated Pain, Provoked Self-Rescue: https://youtu.be/Ejqn_iFg6k0.If you think its too much a risk watch this:
Fake Pregnancy: Serious Advice: https://youtu.be/xpn4m4ly6Bc
Just Do Whatever the f~~~ ya each Want to do….
Anyone that has been around these forums is KEENLY Aware of All the Issues surrounding Women, Female Nature, Relationships Hypergamy, False Rape, Sperm Jacking etc. etc. etc. etc.
Therefore, as long as YOU are willing to Accept WHATEVER Consequences that MAY come from YOUR INDIVIDUAL CHOICES then just do what YOU WANT.
YOUR CHOICES ARE YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS !!
IT’S YOUR LIFE; LIVE IT THE WAY THAT YOU WISH !!
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
So basically you admit that you’re a troll, and that you’ve been here before. Duly noted. Probably the most genuine thing you’ve said in this thread. Sad that you are just an empty vessel for a video’s talking points since you can’t argue anything of substance without pointing to some youtube channel as your defense for an argument. I was skeptical of you when you arrived here. I’ll bet your intro wasn’t even legit. Now that I’ve given you enough rope and you’ve exposed yourself with it, I think it’s officially time to call for a punt.
Mr. El C~~~o Punto (IRULEME),
Listen my friend. I’m not pulling rank or bossing anyone around. I’m defending the classic MGTOW, period. I come clean since the beginning about who Iam, why I’m here, what I stand for.
I started this profile last October, after a 2 year absence from this site.
I came back because yall were posting about a Dallas Meet Up for mgtow. In my city. That was awesome as far as I was concerned. Id been a mgtow for over 4 years and never once met another one. I had no idea it had developed over here to that extent.
Aren’t you also in Dallas? And didn’t all of you guys totally wimp out and not show up to your own meet up, (you refused to announce the location because you’re afraid of lesbians).
And what did I do? I came out, unafraid and said where Id be and when id be there. I made the Dallas meet public and I showed up wearing my face. Where were yall?
So don’t come here and say stuff like, we’re ready to punt him… I’m a man going his own way, crucified through fire for years bro. I belong here. I have the brass to show up in public, announce it prior and show up. You do not! You are hiding behind the profile calling for banishment when you yourself didn’t have the b~~~~ to show up and meet a fellow mgtow brother.
Whatever man. I’m still here. Still in Dallas. Still outcasted by people who have been in mgtow half the time I have, who have digested half the content I have.
You’re the guy going on dates and s~~~ and then reporting back to us about it. And my reaction is, why the hell are you going on dates? this is mgtow.
Around the time Sandman and Thinking Ape had that show down about marketing and the MGTOW Man CAves, wallowing in filth and misery…that whole s~~~show which resulted in MGTOW Messenger changing his name to Messenger Rising.
That was when mgtow changed and became a diluted form of itself. That was where good friends went separate ways, when good men here, for no reason at all, started banishing eachother… you weren’t even here yet dude.
Stop saying, we should punt someone…. you know, Ive never once ever, in 3 profiles and 3 years of coming here, ever recommended someone be booted. Ive also never come across a woman on here either…. its rare. I’m sure they exist but jeez, stop trying to get people kicked off.
No, I’m not from Dallas. I don’t even live in Texas. But if that’s what you gathered from that meet up thread, then I really don’t know what to tell you. Guys meet up and post about it because for many, they think they’re alone. Isolated. And for them, to find out they’re not, that there are others like them, with the same situations, and same ideas, for them to meet up means something. And for them, it’s an opportunity for them to do what men do. Bond.
Stop seeing MGTOW as this one dimensional thing. It’s not. That’s what I’ve tried to argue with you in this thread. MGTOW has always existed. Well before Stardusk and others came along, and applied their position to it. No matter what YOU think MGTOW means, ultimately it means something different for everyone.
You can be a MGTOW without practicing isolationism from the world and being a f~~~ing hermit. If that wasn’t the case, then why are you here? Arguing with other men, posting on a forum. Interacting with your fellow man… Don’t confuse being MGTOW from going GALT.
@iruleme when did you move to Dallas?
Like a bird on the wire, like a drunk midnight choir, I have tried in my way to be free.
To me, MGTOW is support for men who have been destroyed by divorce or something comparably catastrophic with the proximal cause being interaction with women. It is also a resource of information for any straight man in general.
The stories that are posted here offer great wisdom for those who seek it. I can tell that there are many genuinely good men here that have been dealt a terrible fate. In fact, I can tell that most men here are good guys. However, there are some that are also toxic and/or bats~~~ insane. But that is to be expected with any online community. I won’t point any fingers.
Luckily, I am not a guy who has been destroyed by divorce. Hell, I have never even had to worry about it, as I was ignored by women most of my life. Because of society’s stupid brainwashing, I thought there was something seriously wrong with me before I came here. After I graduated school and got my big job in 2016, my initial goal was to go all out on “improving” myself to find a woman who might be my wife.
But I found MGTOW. I think the most important discovery I made through finding MGTOW was that there IS a life without marriage. In fact, there is a GREAT life without marriage. MGTOW also provided a very somber reminder about the potential (and very probable) devastation that marriage brings. It reminded me that marriage is NOT the ultimate goal in life. In fact, it’s all bulls~~~ designed by the elite to trap you into perpetual slavery. To keep you down, so you cannot rise.
And that’s what marriage is. It’s willful slavery to the elite. The married are slaves and are either unaware, or dreadfully complying as they know cutting loose from the marriage will result in catastrophic loss. What better way to enslave a man than to trick him into the ball and chain using his primitive instincts, and effectively holding him down and effectively denying competition? What better way to keep the poor man poor, without the rich having to worry about him getting a slice of their pie?
No. When you avoid marriage, you open yourself to greatness. The world is open to you, your life is yours to mold, your dreams are yours to pursue. Whether that dream is of peace and freedom, or a lifetime of adventure, or the achievement of goals – these are all things that you cannot have with marriage.
MGTOW was what helped me see all this. Had I not found MGTOW, I most certainly would have a woman who is likely a single mother to someone else’s kid, who would either have begun to convince me to marry her or already had done it. I would be a father to someone else’s kid as she continues to bang other guys behind my back, and have no financial future to look forward to.
Without going into specifics, I now literally have enough money in my account to walk into a dealership and leave with a brand new Mercedes-Benz completely paid off. But it’s not going to end there. This is just the BEGINNING. This is all thanks to discovering MGTOW. I wouldn’t trade this for sex with the hottest bitch on earth, and I certainly wouldn’t trade it for being a slave to one.
As for my attitude with women…I don’t search for them, I don’t give a damn about having sex with them, and I’m not gonna try some dumb PUA alpha-bro s~~~ to f~~~ them. But if I find some attractive girl who likes me and understands damn well that I won’t marry her or put myself in any arrangement that involves me paying for her, AND isn’t an STD riddled slut cheating on her husband/boyfriend, I might have some sort of relationship with her. But I think I just excluded about 99% of all women with that criteria. Chances are good I won’t ever find this woman, and I’m perfectly fine with that.
So, because I’m still open to a possible relationship, am I not MGTOW? I don’t know, and I don’t care. But am I in a much better position in my life because of the insight I gained from the MGTOW community? I give a resounding YES.
Therefore, I say the true core of MGTOW isn’t necessarily to avoid marriage and/or relationships, though avoiding marriage should be an inevitable conclusion. It’s about knowing exactly what you gain by avoiding marriage and relationships. When you really understand what you do, that is when you know that you are truly “going your own way”, and not society’s way.
Formerly MoneyOverBitches
Anonymous38Mgtow isn’t going anywhere, we’ll be here and you have plenty of time to:
A. Go live with a woman get her prego
B. Avail yourself of classic mgtow content. Start with Manwomanmyth, Barbarossa and Stardusk.
Watch ALL of it. It will take you weeks. We’ll still be here.
Then come back and tell me that Mgtow can be married or date casually. At the very least, that definition is disingenuous.
We’re not telling men what to do, we’re defining a term that honestly shifted quite a bit in less than 5 years.
I think this website and a few content producers stayed true to it.
Im not mad about it. Its an old debate. I actually posted an old chat on MGTOW day that actually promotes going back out and seeing women. I even uploaded it to Youtube since Spetsnaz took it down.
I just like to bring it up (classic Mgtow) because I believe we’re going to see a revival of just plain ghosting relationships and sex all-together.
If you want to go back to women, watch atuff like this:
Validated Pain, Provoked Self-Rescue: https://youtu.be/Ejqn_iFg6k0.If you think its too much a risk watch this:
Fake Pregnancy: Serious Advice: https://youtu.be/xpn4m4ly6Bc
This is what I mean. I’ve listened to it all mate. Hubdreds or even thousands of hours of the main creators and some smaller ones. Still I choose to engage in my terms, knowing the risks.
It doesn’t make men like me any less of men going their own way. In my eyes the likes of you are a lesser MGTOW cos you’re still trying to tell men what MGTOW is.
It appears that the original definition of MGTOW is disputed and may have got lost in time. But, it appears to me that MGTOW currently is a kind of spectrum, which allows for men to have varying degrees of contact with women, as I think appears to be purported by IRuleMe; but a man must have some amount of non-contact with women, as well. I do, however, agree with GravelPit, in that, as society/women get worse, men will increasingly go Monk (which I think he calls ‘Classic MGTOW’). So, at the moment, there is no agreed definition of MGTOW, but I think that there will come a time in the future when MGTOW will need to be defined/formalised; for clarity and to reduce in-fighting.
IRuleMe and GravelPit are welcome to correct my interpretation of their remarks, if I have understood them incorrectly.
Anonymous38If a girl acts out, I next the ho. I’m an introvert, sometimes I enjoy long periods of no women. But women give me sustenance which helps my creative side. There is an art to living life as well as doing paintings and s~~~.
This was profound for me. I couldn’t have put it better myself.
Rarely do I see a post that I agree with so much it makes me want to smash stuff – I’m not sure why it gives me that feeling.
Some people see it as keep putting your hand in the fire, ie stupid. I’m different. I do it because there are still a million things I want to learn about life and myself, being with women just keeps adding to my knowledge. I don’t just wanna know a bit about something, i wanna know everything, and then apply that to other areas of my life.
Knowledge is power, experiences keep you sharp. But always be watching and mitigating your risk.
Anonymous1Luckily, I am not a guy who has been destroyed by divorce. Hell, I have never even had to worry about it, as I was ignored by women most of my life. Because of society’s stupid brainwashing, I thought there was something seriously wrong with me before I came here. After I graduated school and got my big job in 2016, my initial goal was to go all out on “improving” myself to find a woman who might be my wife.
#METOO
MGTOW, saves lives. There is nothing wrong with us. You don’t have to be burned by a fire to know it’s hot.
I grew up watching Father’s get divorce raped and thrown out of their own houses. I learned from others mistakes. The stories posted on here by Divorced men are enough to deter me from dating for the rest of my life.
Luckily, I am not a guy who has been destroyed by divorce. Hell, I have never even had to worry about it, as I was ignored by women most of my life. Because of society’s stupid brain-washing, I thought there was something seriously wrong with me, before I came here.
Snap! I knew that there was something wrong, but I incorrectly assumed the fault lied with me, not with society/women. Since listing to mens’ stories and coming/joining here, I now know that I am not the problem.
My initial goal was to go all out on “improving” myself to find a woman who might be my wife.
I also thought that I had to ‘improve’ myself, to find a girl-friend/wife, so that I could be happy. Stupid blue-pill brain-washing. There is nothing wrong with me; women are the ones who have to improve their choices/selves.
But I found MGTOW. I think the most important discovery I made through finding MGTOW was that there IS a life without marriage. In fact, there is a GREAT life without marriage.
Yes. There is a fantastic bachelor/single life, without some woman demanding/nagging at you and draining your energy/money/time. And if you really want to, you can still have sex, with escorts/prostitutes, or pump-n-dump; but you need to protect yourself very thoroughly. Once you over-come/re-focus your sexual desires/energies, you will not even need to potentially compromise yourself, by having sex; this mitigates womens’ whole control mechanism, as far as you are concerned. You have more energy/money/time, to lead the kind of life-style that YOU really want to.
The more men I listened to and read about on here, the more I realised that I was not the only one, who thought the way I did, about society/women. Women have a big support network, but men do not, so this place is necessary for enlightened men. Thank God for the MGTOW.Com Forums and the guys on them; they saved my happiness/sanity.
MGTOW, saves lives.
Agree 100%!
"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."So f~~~ you if you’re some pansy who thinks it’s blue pilled to have short term relations~~~s. Y
Why have realtionhsits with them?
You call them relationhsits so you must know they are s~~~ and a bad idea.
Why not just pump an dump them?
Because all humans, regardless of male or female, want and crave real companionship. Men just don’t want sex. I agree with Mgtowist that sex by itself isn’t fulfilling.
Men get married and enter relationships for understanding, support and to simply share their lives with the opposite sex. Now I’m saying that is a good thing and ultimately it ends in some sort of misery but all humans seek out a mate/partner. Biologically that need is stronger than pump/dump or monk mode.
Mgtowist wants deeper relationships with women and that is fine just as long he knows what the end game could entail. Nothing wrong with having deeper female companionship for a year or two at a time if you accept the risks involved; and some choose not to entertain that risk which is also fine.
MGTOW is about seeking whatever path you choose. This forum is just a way to offer different perspectives for men looking to live their lives as peacefully and as fulfillingly as possible.
MGTOW saves lives. There is nothing wrong with us. You don’t have to be burned by a fire to know it’s hot.
Exactly. I eventually worked-out that modern women are no good and I saved myself (by going MGTOW); I think this is referred to as being the ‘easy route’ to MGTOW. I have effectively always been a Monk, previously due to a lack of any action/interest from women and not understanding why and fighting it mentally, but now due to analysing it and accepting the fact that modern women are no good for me anyway, so I have totally retract myself from them and ‘Gone MGTOW’, as the saying goes (i.e. I just do my own thing and I do not bother with women entirely).
I just think it is a shame that the state of the relationship between men and women has got to this level of ridiculousness/toxicity… all thanks to Feminism and men previously caving-in to Feminism’s demands, of course.
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