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Everyone here feels your pain, man.
Yeah man these narcs are f~~~ed up bitches.
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Welcome Christopher, you’re at the right place. It’s so easy to forget women’s nature and fall for a gorgeous one. Hang in there and be on here as much as possible it might just save your life.
Thanks very much for the welcome and cheers for the encouragement. Yeah I fell for her then I dumped the c~~~. At the end she held no physical attraction for me. The body is just external its not the actual person.
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As others have mentioned, working on yourself should be your priority. Find out what you really enjoy and concentrate on that. They say that your focus determines your reality, so if you sit around thinking about all the things you dont have (like a woman) then you will feel bad, however if you concentrate on all the great opportunities still available to you then you will feel a lot better on a daily basis.
As far as the child goes, until you have medical proof its yours, i would not pay a cent. If it turns out she is yours then you can deal with that when it is proven. At the moment just get out and enjoy your life with the freedom that comes from going MGTOWThanks Maddlad for the advice. My focus determines my reality thats a good practical way to think thanks. btw im not thinking about needing a woman at all. That recent one was the only time I got involved involved with a woman in many years i had gone monk.
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Welcome, join the no f~~~ given assholes club.
Cheers okay I am now a no f~~~s given asshole.
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Welcome Chris…. Enjoy the brotherhood of red pill mofos.
Thanks Shin.
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The admirable stuff you did in your free time makes you the kind of man I would like to call Friend/ Brother.
Cheers The Manipulated Man and thanks for the links you provided will take a look at those.
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Christopher, you are ahead of the curve as a newcomer, but you are missing some important MGTOW Truths which I trust you would eventually get to sooner than most.
But, now you are about to drive off of a cliff.
Meditation and normal self-maintenance will be difficult now because your Manstincts are yelling at you to WAKE UP and change your course.
You must try to summon the courage to face the evil that is coming after you and see the world around you for what it is.
Even if a DNA test shows that you are the “Father,” that child will NEVER really be yours.
Western Men have lost their children. The sad truth is that we have had no real influence over them. And this situation has been going on for over a hundred years.
Those of us who thought we could “beat the system” and pour our Heart/ Soul into children have suffered greatly watching them grow up to be Abominations, Addicts, and Fools.
Also, there are civilization destroying events occurring which we are powerless to stop.
And there are overwhelming forces aligned against you.
With all due respect, you have been “beating around the bush” with all of those interesting details you have written so far in your Introduction.
Alas, it seems like you have set your course and you are unwilling/ unable to change it.
……. I am definitely open to hearing more MGTOW comments/advice……
OK.
Here is some Tough Love:Your avoidant behavior and hiding of important truths is Pusillanimous.
Without revealing your secret identity, you should tell us what country you are from and what country the baby’s mother is from.
Cultural stuff such as religious background of both of you will help the feedback to be more useful.
There are members here at MGTOW.com who have impressive backgrounds, and collectively, we have seen/ been through a lot.
Here is another tip:
It would be useful for you to write a Post in the Forums (Blue Pill Hell, MGTOW Central) explaining your “baby” situation and asking for help.
You can provide a link to your Introduction in that post and then try to stay focused on the task at hand and really examine what you have gotten yourself into.
Be prepared to read stuff like:
“My cousin told me about how the government of the Philippines was paying for training courses to help their women “Trap” an American into marriage.”
“America’s war in Afghanistan was really about getting that Heroin.”
“There are truckloads of drug money pouring into Mexico every day.”
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Having Serenity as a direct result of being on the “MGTOW Road” allows me to fully enjoy Peace and Tranquility.
Now, I am never “bored” or depressed.Thanks very The Manipluated Man for your comments/help. Yep this is what Im trying to re-attain to enjoy peace again I seem to be going through some kind of anxiety/depression from the situation.
It takes time to unlearn bad habits and to understand how to live as a free man.
A good series of books about awakening to the influences of Slave Culture and how to live as a free man is called “Ishmael,” by Daniel Quin.
My favorite in the series is called “The story of B.”Thank you I will keep a note of this to read.
SpiritRR wrote:
….And people should really LISTEN to Tower,
His words carry more meaning than the words themselves.
You need to start reading between the lines.
It’s never that simple, never just the words…
Kids, do you the F~~~ know what you got here.
I sure wish I met these guys 30 years ago.
DON’T BE ME……Noted.
..What does this line actually mean ? Kids, do you the F~~~ know what you got here
I please would like to understand what MGTOW men have realised in relation to kids.Thanks for all the comments – beers are on me !
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@ blade
Yep the whole experience with this bitch narc has been F*cked Up Repugnant Sh*t
To hell with her.
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The manipluted Man thanks very very much indeed for the additional help/feedback. I have some more questions if you please have the time.
Even if a DNA test shows that you are the “Father,” that child will NEVER really be yours.
Im beginning to understand this.
Western Men have lost their children. The sad truth is that we have had no real influence over them. And this situation has been going on for over a hundred years.
Those of us who thought we could “beat the system” and pour our Heart/ Soul into children have suffered greatly watching them grow up to be Abominations, Addicts, and Fools.Thats f~~~ed up. I have known this but perhaps I will be ‘experiencing’ this now.
Also, there are civilization destroying events occurring which we are powerless to stop.
Specificially what are you referring to here ?
In relation to my own field of work I have been studying and uncovering truth about these global control systems of neo-classical economics, banking, globalisation, government, politics and much more for over 20 years now. Feminism seems to run parallel with a lot of that.
And there are overwhelming forces aligned against you.
I think I know the forces you are referring to but I would be very interested/grateful to hear more – could you be more specific?
But, now you are about to drive off of a cliff.
Okay but what does that mean exactly ? in what way ?
Alas, it seems like you have set your course and you are unwilling/ unable to change it.
What course have I set ? and please what must I change ?
Here is some Tough Love:
Your avoidant behavior and hiding of important truths is Pusillanimous.
Without revealing your secret identity, you should tell us what country you are from and what country the baby’s mother is from.
Cultural stuff such as religious background of both of you will help the feedback to be more useful.
There are members here at MGTOW.com who have impressive backgrounds, and collectively, we have seen/ been through a lot.I had thought I was telling the essential parts of the story as best I could. I dont understand what am I avoiding and what truths I am hiding.. please tell me.
I want to doxx myself by being too specific but we are both from westernised countries and both of Christian backgrounds.There are members here at MGTOW.com who have impressive backgrounds, and collectively, we have seen/ been through a lot.
I hope to learn from you all. I have an impressive background in my field, but obviously I know nothing much about baby situations and didnt realise what i was getting into with that woman and was naive in that I fell for her.
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Many of the answers to your questions about where I’m coming from regarding “civilization destroying events” and “overwhelming forces” are Mansplained in my Posts and Replies on this web site.
Writing down what has happened to me and having a place to Post my stories is a gift. Everything I posted and replied to can be accessed in my profile page.
You can read any individual MGTOW’s Posts by going to their profile page and hitting the “Forums” tab to get a list of what they wrote.
The contributions of the other men writing here on this web site are brilliant and profound. I am grateful, humbled, and honored to have an opportunity to write with them about our lives.
Even though I am glad to be a masculine heterosexual man, there was too much vile malevolence to overcome in my life within our modern Gynocentric world.
Here is a link to a Post which attempts to discuss what I had to do to be the kind of man my grandfather would be proud of:
/forums/topic/the-power-of-celibacy/
My journey into examining the “overwhelming forces” aligned against us started with the diabolical Medical Establishment. Here is a Post I wrote a year ago that tells the story of how I prevented those infernal Medical parasites from taking my prostrate in my thirties and my nose/ eye in my fifties:
/forums/topic/inexpesive-cancer-cures-and-other-miracle-cures-verses-the-golden-goose/
About ten years ago, I walked away from my great job in the Trades working primarily with other Masculine Men to pursue a career as a Scientist. The following Post attempts to discuss some of the despicable creatures that I have had to deal with in my new White Collar environment. Your feedback there is appreciated:
/forums/topic/gays-are-untrustworthy-and-treacherous/
As far as the big picture, others have Mansplained it much better than I can. But, here is what I can write in a Nut Shell:
For writing on this web site, our “Great Enemy” is the Gynocracy.The core issue here is that women have been given too much power to the point they are men’s superior in our society.
Women have more rights without any of the responsibilities like sustaining the infrastructure, building the society, being sent to die if the society is under threat…..This problem goes beyond Race and Nationality.
Dealing with “Women’s Nature” is something that all Heterosexual Masculine Men have in common.
To see an example of this, click on the link below and read the entire Introduction thread by a MGTOW from Saudi Arabia:
/forums/topic/snoonz-the-arab-mgtow/
As far as I am concerned, taking away women’s voting privileges would be a step in the right direction.
Facets of the “cliff” I see you about to drive off are described nicely in the following Posts:
/forums/topic/thomas-ball-died-for-your-sins-too/
/forums/topic/parasitic-jeweled-wasp/
….What course have I set ? and please what must I change ?
Your “Course” is your intention to be involved with that child’s life when it is proven that it has your DNA.
You must have the courage to change yourself first.
You must fearlessly and rationally examine the world that the child and you live in.
Thankfully, you have found a goldmine here at MGTOW.com, so keep digging.You must find and change the programming that you have been subjected to.
Cognitive Therapy and Support Groups within the Gynocracy will only obfuscate your Truth and will only reinforce your programming.
Nevertheless, there are many awesome MGTOW brothers here who will “give you a hand up, not a handout.”
……we are both from westernised countries and both of Christian backgrounds…….
That is too nebulous.
Yours and her Race/ Nationality are important factors to be able to advise you on how to proceed.
If you want to see the “Cliff” and then change your “Course,” you must be clearer about your situation when you ask for help from the MGTOWs on this web site.
Here is an example of what to post:Title:
MGTOW needs advise dealing with foreign ex-girlfriend who now claims that she is having my baby, please help!Body of Post:
I am a middle class “Australian” man in his late forties who lived in “South Korea” for over “five” years.
I just broke up with a “Twenty something” crazy Korean girlfriend just before I returned to my home in “Australia.”Surprise, surprise, she just contacted me claiming that she is having my baby!
We both have Christian backgrounds.
My programming is telling me to “do the right thing.”
Even if the DNA tests show that the child is mine,
What is going on here?
What could happen, if I bond with this child?
How do I proceed?
More details are provided in my Introduction, see link below:
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Thanks very much indeed The Manipulated Man for your reply I appreciate it. I have read your links – we have some knowledge/ experience in common.
I agree having a place as MGTOW men to post our stories and help each other is a gift in this societal matrix of illusions that attempts to control us and what we say and think.
As I mentioned in my OP I was celibate for 3 years. Thanks for pointing me to your post on celibacy. I posted there to support your assertion and reflect my own experience.
I have been very aware of all this big pharma stuff / med establishment since my teens and I had a personal experience which confirmed it for me. Thanks for pointing me to your post on the medical establishment I posted there to support your assertion. As I mentioned in my OP I have seen through the bulls~~~ of the matrix society from a young age. I am a highly aware person / HSP. I had conflicts with my narc mother as she kept encouraging my uncle and others to keep pumping drugs into themselves to cure cancer. It just f~~~ed up his kidneys and he died. I have other stories. Many people are so dumbed down nowadays and overwhelmed by the mass media they often cannot decipher truth. This is the system we have been born into.
“Great Enemy” is the Gynocracy.
The core issue here is that women have been given too much power to the point they are men’s superior in our society.
Women have more rights without any of the responsibilities like sustaining the infrastructure, building the society, being sent to die if the society is under threat…..I agree. I have been aware of this for a good while. As I mentioned in my OP before I joined here I hadnt had a relationship for many years, became celibate, and more recently I was watching MGTOW is Freedom for 10 months but it got shut down.
Thank you for the link to the post from the MGTOW from SAudi Arabia. I already read this over a week ago as I mentioned in my mentioned in my OP I have read the first 4 pages of introductions.
As far as I am concerned, taking away women’s voting privileges would be a step in the right direction.
I have said the exact same thing in the past to male friends of mine. Females are too irrational. It goes deeper. The system of democracy has become corrupted and flawed. In many cases it is an illusion of choice and nothing much changes. Feminism is a tool of a larger control structure that does not change just because someone is elected. The real power lies behind in the international banking system and the power structures of globalisation. For example, in Europe countries were economically captured since the socalled banking crisis of 2008 (in which the massive debts of private banks were unjustly transferred to citizens) and those governments (and thus the people) were made further beholden to the control of the international debt system. Also the monetary system is part of all this. You may be familiar with the quote from Rothschild: “Give me control of a nation’s money supply, and I care not who makes its laws”. Marriage, Feminism, Gynocentrism is all part of a debt system that often keeps men working as slaves; encourages and supports women to consume more and create more debt that their husbands pay for and facilitates womens control over men; and a small elite become incredibly rich from the global debt system. 50% of the worlds wealth is owned by around 100 people.
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Thank you for the link to The Thomas Ball case which is shocking. The injustice of what happened to Thomas Ball and many men. Yes the court system and government system is stacked against men. I have realised this a long time ago which is one of the reasons why I never got married.
Your analogy of the parasitic wasp using chemistry to control and dominate is relevant to what I went through. As I have already stated in my original post:
Lesson: Pheromones are dangerous.
The lesson is be careful getting involved with a woman no matter how beautiful the woman is and how good the physical chemistryYou have already mentioned that even if I am the father that the child will never really be mine. Thank you for your warning about the futility of trying to beat the system in relation to access to children. As I mention in my OP I already realise that I probably wont be involved in the childs life and that maybe there will only be a relationship in later years (maybe).
Your “Course” is your intention to be involved with that child’s life when it is proven that it has your DNA.
You must have the courage to change yourself first.
You must fearlessly and rationally examine the world that the child and you live in.
Thankfully, you have found a goldmine here at MGTOW.com, so keep digging.
You must find and change the programming that you have been subjected to.Thank you very much for your assistance but I am not understanding what you are saying here. Are you saying that I should not attempt to become involved in the childs life ?
What is it specifically you say that I must change about my programming?
Given I have outlined above my understanding of the ‘world that we live in’, what specifically are you saying that I must change about myself?Thank you again for your posts The Manipulated Man. I feel like Im am starting to make progress and it re-assuring to be here.
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After I suggested that you read Daniel Quin’s Ishmael series, I dusted off my copies and cracked them open. And there has been a lot of cringing as I read them, since my world view has changed a lot in the past few years.
Nevertheless, I still recommend them. One reason is that there are unreasonable assumptions made based on our culture that we as individuals are unaware of. The Ishmael series does a great job of showing the process of uncovering those assumptions and replacing them with objective reality.
A man with your wisdom/ knowledge of how the world works may find many parts of the fictional “Ismael” series objectionable. I hope you can put your blinders on and enjoy the series like I have.
Another fiction book that I love to read from time to time is “Starship Troopers” by Robert Heinlein. Even though it has the same disagreeable old lies about wimmin in the military and their role in society, most of his book is wonderful and I am willing to overlook some mistakes for a taste of the good stuff.
One of our beloved Patriarchs, Key Master, has been writing about listening to our “Manstincts.” I like reading his Posts & Replies even more than reading Heinlein.
My Manstincts are telling me to press you into following my suggestions made in the previous replies and avoid losing focus by your excellent distractions.
I want you to open up to receiving the stories and advice of other MGTOWs who understand what you are facing. They can help you much more than me, since I am still trying to figure out what the f~~~ has happened.
But, here is what I have so far:
The chemistry and other bonds with our children are powerful and Primal.
Being manipulated/ powerless and seeing the Gynocracy destroy your child is the worst form of hell.
…..Are you saying that I should not attempt to become involved in the childs life ?
Not exactly.
There are things that you must do first, before you make that decision.
We are not there yet.
…..What is it specifically you say that I must change about my programming?
You are “smarter than the average bear.”
You have already removed more stuff than most men.
I suspect that you have cleaned up that “Programming” more than me, and I have done a lot.
You can probably start by ignoring your well-earned and useful White Collar programming to cover your ass. It is not serving you now.
Writing what country you and your ex-girlfriend are from is NOT the same as providing your street address and zip code. There are millions of other people in a country.
Giving the decade of your ex-girlfriend’s age is not the same as providing her birthdate. There are millions of women in their twenties and thirties.
No one is asking you to provide the level of accuracy that will help our Great Enemy to find you and/ or your ex-girlfriend.
Alas, I don’t have the words to help you with the reprogramming process any further.
And you are already doing an excellent job of accomplishing that yourself.But, your situation is urgent!
I know deep down that there are MGTOWs here who can help you speed up the process with Intel, wisdom, and a fresh perspective...what specifically are you saying that I must change about myself?
Right now I want you to make that Post suggested in my previous reply and ask the MGTOW community for their help.
Try to be more “Blue Collar” by proving more accurate general descriptions of your situation, like the example I provided in my previous reply.
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Right now I want you to make that Post suggested in my previous reply and ask the MGTOW community for their help.
Thank you very much again The Manipulated Man for your feedback I appreciate it.
I read a number of Robert Heinlein’s books many years ago. Glory Road was a favorite in my teens and I reread it in later years. In that one I always felt though that the main male character had been in a way been sneakily tricked by the woman as she didn’t reveal the truth about herself until later.
I must now start listening more to my Manstincts to get my wellbeing and self respect/self confidence back. Even though I know and have been told by the psychologist and counsellor and my brother etc that I have done nothing wrong in this situation (i just fell in love they say and did the right thing to end it) everything seems stacked in the mothers favour and societal norms cast me as the villain and the single mother as the victim – and as a man it seems I am made to feel somehow guilty by society as if I have done something wrong here.
Thank you very much for your thoughtful advice and the information you have posted. As you have suggested I have posted the situation asking for specific advice:
Kind regards
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Bravo Christopher!
Yup, it’s a good one too.
I like the replies so far.
Posts in MGTOW Central tend to get buried real fast because of the large number of MGTOWs creating content there.
However, your topic will be moved to the top of the list as soon as someone replies, including your own feedback. So, ration your replies to the MGTOWs replies in order to keep your Post from being buried on page ten.
I have reached out to Australian MGTOWs privately and asked them to help out on your Post. You can do that by hitting the “message” tab in our Profile page. And I just sent you one.
By providing the country of your allegedly pregnant ex-girlfriend, you have gotten better advice.
…….Their Child Support agency CAN make an application for child maintenance from you if you live in a reciprocal country that have legal agreements with them….
Claiming that you are from “Western Europe” is still too vague.
We cannot tell if you are in a “Reciprocal Country” or not.
If you are from the UK, then speak up because there are plenty of MGTOWs here who can weigh in. Your Identity will remain secure.
If you are from a tiny country like Liechtenstein or Andorra, then you are on your own and you will more likely get doxed.
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Anonymous1Welcome brother. Keep the rubber side down. Nice to have you here. If you ever need anything. To vent to talk there is always someone here.
Welcome brother. Keep the rubber side down. Nice to have you here. If you ever need anything. To vent to talk there is always someone here.
Cheers Kowalski. Good to meet you. Good to be here brother.
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