Hello

[Anonymous 42]

ghost wrote:

Go easy on him. He has already been through a lot.

Slide his ass along the wire!

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Slide his ass along the wire!

Fine. Slide him across.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, Christopher
Beer’s in the fridge

[CthulhuParticipant 698]

Everyone here feels your pain, man. There’s no way we can beat you any more than you(and her) have already.

Why vote for a lesser evil? #ICETHEMOUT

[MACHOParticipant]

Welcome Christopher, you’re at the right place. It’s so easy to forget women’s nature and fall for a gorgeous one. Hang in there and be on here as much as possible it might just save your life.

Christopher wrote:

Hello MGTOW brothers and free souls,
Greetings from a 47 year old guy in a once proud nation that is now a place polluted with gynocentric wank, illogical global feminist hysteria and with way too many pussy whipped manginas. I breathe the mountain and sea air and I try to avoid all that nonsense. Whew !

Christopher wrote:

I reached a sort of pinnacle of my life a year and a half ago where I was mentally at peace, healthy and strong, more creative, celibate by choice for 3 years… my eyes were like a deep calm lake reflecting my wellbeing. But then I lapsed badly into a brief relationship with a beautiful women who of course turned out to be a crazy narcisistic bitch and to be honest I have felt traumatised by this last experience

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[MaddladParticipant 765]

Welcome mate.

I get the feeling you live near me, and if you do then you are lucky because we have such a great outdoor lifestyle available to us. I say that because i find that getting outdoors and indulging in physical activities i enjoy is a great way to take my mind off things that cause stress.

As others have mentioned, working on yourself should be your priority. Find out what you really enjoy and concentrate on that. They say that your focus determines your reality, so if you sit around thinking about all the things you dont have (like a woman) then you will feel bad, however if you concentrate on all the great opportunities still available to you then you will feel a lot better on a daily basis.

As far as the child goes, until you have medical proof its yours, i would not pay a cent. If it turns out she is yours then you can deal with that when it is proven. At the moment just get out and enjoy your life with the freedom that comes from going MGTOW.

Good luck.
🙂
M

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hello Christopher,

You Introduction is outstanding.

The way you write and express ideas logically/ clearly makes your initial Post a work of Art.
Your Bonafides are great too. The admirable stuff you did in your free time makes you the kind of man I would like to call Friend/ Brother.

So, it is heartbreaking to read how you stepped into a Big Pile of Sssshhhhhaaaving cream (…be nice and clean…shave every day…. and you’ll always feel….).

Note: some automated software has been cutting out profanity on this web site, so we are forced to speak in code whenever we are unwilling to clean up our language.

And your situation is a nightmare which requires strong language.

Christopher wrote:

…….I would very much appreciate any constructive comments to help keep me sane and back on the up and up…….

Without Doxing yourself or the attractive woman you purportedly got pregnant, kindly provide more information about this woman who claims to be having “Your” baby.

What is her story?

What part of the world is she from?

Since men no longer have any real legal rights over raising their children and you did not marry HER, how are you obliged to send her YOUR money?

My last Great Unicorn Hunt involved Asian women. They joyfully removed any remnants of foolishness in my head/ heart which was a very painful thing for me.

Christopher wrote:

….but I had a weakness for super attractive ones – these were my krytonite – my weakness.

MACHO wrote:

….It’s so easy to forget women’s nature and fall for a gorgeous one…

That’s the story of my life.

My Avatar name, “Manipulated Man,” is mostly a result of my past which I have written about on this web site. And It does help to write about what happened.

The following link is something that happened to me here in American. Your comments in that post are appreciated:

/forums/topic/the-domestic-abuse-machine-as-an-apparatus-for-mens-enslavement/

Here is a hard Lesson Learned and the ugly truth about Blue Pill Hell:

“The slave has neither means of redress, nor any basis for legal action of any sort. The slaves rights are all based upon the good will of its master.”

Liars are the same all over the Western World.

It is the cost of doing business with our Great Enemy.

And we are living in a time where their crimes against men go unpunished.

Christopher wrote:

…….a once proud nation that is now a place polluted with gynocentric wank, illogical global feminist hysteria and with way too many pussy whipped manginas…..

Christopher, when you work with MGTOWs, your life will get better, especially when you can accelerate your learning curve and avoid making the same mistakes.

Try to absorb everything MGTOWs are telling you.

Keep reading the Forums and the Archives.

The Introduction section of the MGTOW forums is filled with men just like you who are asking the same questions.

I have come to believe that being a MGTOW Monk is the best strategy.

I cannot deal with Narcissists.

Here is link to a Post that attempts to discuss how a rational man with a bright Soul is unable to deal with Narcissists. Your feedback there is appreciated:

/forums/topic/an-honest-love-letter/

Having Serenity as a direct result of being on the “MGTOW Road” allows me to fully enjoy Peace and Tranquility.

Now, I am never “bored” or depressed.

In hind sight, my relationS~~~s with women was an addiction which ruined my inborn Serenity.

It is important to note that the influences of women compelled me to do things that were not in MY best interests even though I believed them to be “exciting” activities.

Removing Blue and Purple Pill indoctrination is like peeling layers off of an onion. It takes time to unlearn bad habits and to understand how to live as a free man.

A good series of books about awakening to the influences of Slave Culture and how to live as a free man is called “Ishmael,” by Daniel Quin.

My favorite in the series is called “The story of B.”

Here is a link to Ishmael:

https://www.amazon.com/Ishmael-Novel-Daniel-Quinn-ebook/dp/B000SEFH6A

I hope you are able to make better choices to reclaim your natural instincts and essential Serenity.

Anonymous wrote:

….Wake up dude! She wants to put YOU on the HOOK for …….. Modern narsistic women are whores that f~~~ like rabbits! She doesn’t want the test because ……… Man are you naive!

Tower is a visionary!

It is in YOUR best interests to try and open your mind to what he is showing you.

Anonymous wrote:

….And people should really LISTEN to Tower,

His words carry more meaning than the words themselves.

You need to start reading between the lines.

It’s never that simple, never just the words…

Kids, do you the F~~~ know what you got here.

I sure wish I met these guys 30 years ago.

DON’T BE ME……

Here is a link to a Post that contains some of Tower’s Wisdom:

/forums/topic/todays-womyn-are-like-wild-boars-razerbacks/

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Welcome, join the no f~~~ given assholes club.

😁

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Gargamel wrote:

I saved 408 of his videos and I hope KM can get clearance to put them all on here.
I love “MGTOW is Freedom” – John’s truth bombs and the sarcastic way he presents them remind me a lot of the way I would probably do it one day.

Cool. I really liked Johns channel also. It would be great to see all those 408 videos here. I downloaded about 200 of them. I even saved some of the comments that were also good. I briefly stumbled onto this MGTOW mirror project a few days ago but am not familiar with the channel as of yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhUJ8JiX8QM

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[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Anonymous wrote:

Welcome! You’re welcome here. We want you here and we want for you to post. We really do. I can tell from your intro that you’re either British or from somewhere else in the Commonwealth. I will add that there are a lot of men here from those parts too! So you’re in good company.

Cheers for the welcome Travis3000!

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[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Point Of No Return wrote:

Nice interaction going there guys. Welcome Christopher!

Thanks for the welcome Point ONR – good to be here.

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[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

NerdTunneler wrote:

Everything is falling out of “plan”. Let it fall…
Focus on yourself. You are the constant right now. Your life, your decisions is what you can do. Leave the variables behind. If that is your kid, your kid will find a way to connect with you.
Stay strong and keep posting to let the rage out. Writing is soothing and helps you to concentrate on what is important at the moment and gets your ideas or solutions in order…
Again…Welcome brother……

Hey NerdTunneler thats really awesome advice thanks a lot man.

This makes a lot of sense for me: Focus on yourself. You are the constant right now. Your life, your decisions is what you can do. Leave the variables behind.

Ive been saying similar mottos to myself – it really helps to have this good advice from coming from other men who have been through situations.

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[bladeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

You were just one piece of candy in her candy shop! Man are you naive!

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Anonymous wrote:

Welcome home, Christopher
Beer’s in the fridge

Cheers M52.

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Anonymous wrote:

Wake up dude! She wants to put YOU on the HOOK for Chad’s kid! Modern narsistic women are whores that f~~~ like rabbits! She doesn’t want the test

Hey man Ive already realised the possibilities a long time ago im dealing with this stuff everyday. A year ago I worked out her underlying controlling narc character and what she was capable of that is the reason I dumped her.

I have done a lot of work with various people on understanding all this stuff and what narcs are capable over the past year – as described in part3. There is more detailed info in part3 including her lack of response to my DNA test request that describes why I estimated a 10% chance it is not my child.

You seem certain she has cheated. If she did she did. Maybe its more than 10% chance. But what I need to know is whether it is my child or not. I already told her after the child was born that for any child support to be sent a DNA test would need to take place.

Im interested in the views of like minded men who have been through these situations and more support.
No need for shovels. I used to be a scaffolder I can break a shovel easy 🙂

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[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

PART TWO

Growing up in the Matrix

Growing up I could already see through a lot of the bulls~~~ and illusion around me and in the matrix like society. I think MGTOW are intelligent guys. I have an element of whole systems thinking. This means that I often find it easy to analyse and understand complex situations to see the bigger picture. As I said before a blind spot has been super attractive women. Pheromones are dangerous.
I have made mistakes and lapses in life by being too accomodating to womens wishes, for example, failing to be fully true to myself at times due to pressure and manipulation from my last girlfriend or in the past from my narc mother.
In teenage years I saw through the indoctrination of the school system grooming and pacifying men to become economic slaves to the banking debt system – plus marriage often ties you into debt and then you work like a slave for life. I could see more flaws in the controlling systems we are born into. I felt not many people could see or cared about these things. I wanted to be wild and free and beholden to no-one.

Music was a great source of joy and escape for me.

My mother was and still is a narcissist and she has hen pecked my extremely strong minded father into submission to her irrational control over a lifetime. Drinking very heavily has been his only escape which is killing him.
My toxic mother

It took me many years to finally cut her off – she was often trying to constantly control, undermine and verbally attack me my life down and it continues to this day in what little unavoidable contact there is. This started in a much more comprehensive way as soon as I decided to change careers to what I preferred to do. It was a sign I was going my own way and not doing what she wanted me to do. Many years later despite my rapid rise to a prolific position in my chosen field she still was putting me down and cursing at me that I should not have changed careers. She is a narcissist – she is never happy and can never admit she is wrong.

If you bought her a rolls royce she would complain it is the wrong colour – that is exactly what she is like – nothing is ever good enough for her – she is illogical and has been destructive (to my life) so I must avoid her. She irrationally sees me as a threat as she cant control me. I could never EVER rationalise her behaviour – the irrationality of constantly attacking a member of your own family for no good reason is ultimately an attack on yourself. Due to their own insecurity narcs put others down to make themselves feel better.
But over the years I kept wanting to see my father despite his flaws I always knew he is a good man that provided financially for me and it has torn me up inside over the years that she has controlled him and reduced him (a very physically strong and self assured man) to being her controlled slave. He dominated her and put her in her place when he was younger but she kept pecking away at him year after year.

I tried occasionally to get through to him about these things – but that is his life and he must make his own decisions – he is too old now to fight her or change and she has a stranglehold on their finances. She also tries to influence his views about me.

I believed I had put my mother aside in my mind and her taunts would not affect me but any time going back to see my father would leave me damaged from her sneaky narcissistic attacks / verbal put downs. I reached a high level of success in my new career, but incredibly she still attacked even after many years later for changing careers. She could admit not she was wrong. It is like another MGTOW participant here has said women cannot handle/accept a young man even their own son who sees through their bulls~~~ – I had called her out on her bahaviour and so she constantly attacked me for years to the point where my self worth felt damaged – . I should have went no contact with her much earlier..

Growing up I also watched her go to war for years with my fathers sisters over nothing – drama drama and more drama. She has always been in attack mode.
On the face of it I have got over my mothers narcisism but I have not fully regained the sense of ‘being like a free confident man’ that I had previously – its like an underlying anxiety / lack of self worth from the years of verbal put downs– my Father has this too. I know staying no contact and re-inforcing MGTOW values should help me.

After University

I worked for 10 years and often took time out to do whatever I wanted.
I have had many experiences but also had periods of bad health in my late twenties and early thirties which pointed me in the direction of searching for a more fulfilling way to live rather than financial material wealth and I have had some success. My approach then was to work a well paid contract for one year or 18 months, save money and then go and do whatever I wanted for months like [edited] etc and try and figure out how to live in a way in order not to go back to the mostly flawed corporate world that is destroying global resources at an needlessly high rate, but I had health issues too and I would run out of money and need to go to back to my previous work.

My friends admired my percieved lifestyle but it was just me seeking a better way. I had periods of bad health that affected my level of success as I didn’t have the energy to become financially independent and achieve more of the various goals I had set out. My life was somewhat ‘stop – start’ until about the age of [edited].

Girlfriends

During this time I had a number of relationships with women that ran out their natural course. In life I have had 7 or 8 very beautiful girlfriends and that has been my weakness at times in my life – like Krptonite – but I never saw the sense in getting married. The first girl I really fell for was maybe the most beautiful and hard to get girl in my university. I hooked up with her when I was out drinking one night – like my Dad I was able to drink a lot and have wild fun with it. She was a super hot self entitled bitch. I have high standards so after that one I was looking for a girl that I could actually get along with.

After university I met a good looking and much more down to earth girl that I loved and we emigrated to another country and lived together for a few years. I could have stayed with her but I didn’t see the point in getting married and I perhaps ended the relationship prematurely. A year later I tried to get back with her and she almost did but she was afraid of getting hurt again and chose not to get back with me which I don’t blame her for at all – I had hurt her by breaking up with her. If Unicorns exist maybe she was close to that. She married the next guy she met. I was noticing then that I seem to be a ‘take the road less travelled kinda guy’ as most guys would have stayed with this girl I think.

I moved to another country and took up a highly paid job and despite my understanding of the world and how it worked I was still blue pill in the sense that I wanted a girlfriend. I had a high sex drive. I met another beauty and was with her for a year – but after a year I had health problems. Long story short we broke up as she didn’t want an unwell boyfriend [edited]. I realised then that many women will look for another guy at the first sign of anything happening like illness etc and I realised anyway she was not the kind of person to spend your life with.

I recovered my health and a couple of years later while studying a psychology course I met a very beautiful intelligent girl. I dated her for 7 months or so. She turned out to be a princess complex entitled nightmare – everything was about what she wanted – I kept helping her and thought she might grow out of it but when she started driving me nuts I dumped her quickly.

I was now realising that relationships with women were now too much hassle. Without any conscious decision as such I became more and more MGTOW from the age of [edited] onwards before I ever heard of MGTOW.

Thanks again for any MGTOW comments/feedback.

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[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Welcome Christopher.

Tower is right. If she isn’t ready to provide DNA test proof then the kid most likely isn’t yours. Don’t sign anything and don’t agree to pay anything.

Other than that it sounds like you have had a great life. I hope you can find your way to serenity once again.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

PART THREE

At age [edited]I changed professional careers and had a successful 10 years in a more fulfilling profession.

A more peaceful phase

I explored a number of spiritual paths. At age [edited] I had a much more fulfilling career but life was hectic, I wanted greater peace and time to search for more knowledge and truth about this world we live in I eventually at age [edited] decided to resign my well paid position and I attempted to live a more simple peaceful life.

I was celibate for [edited] years – this was the right decision for me at that time in my life although its not for everyone. Without the distraction and emotional irrationality of women life was a lot simpler and easier. It was the most rewarding time of my life. I didn’t see the need for a woman they werent even on my radar anymore. I learned more about how to live a more stable life. Eventually I became more energetic, peaceful, knowledgeable, healthier and happier. I had a glow and vitality about me that people and of course women noticed.

I avoided female contact but sometimes its unavoidable. I didn’t need them and that made a few of them more curious, 2 women got quite aggressive in pursuing me and I avoided them like the plague. Maybe these are stories for another time. I was learning more to stay clear of these manipulative and energy draining nutty self entitled feminist women.

Exploring various spiritual approaches and places was interesting to me and also I met and talked with some good people and advanced monks who were knowledgeable personalities, and also some couples where the woman had submitted to the natural greater rationality and intelligence of the man

After [edited] happy MGTOW monk years I fell for a woman I liked and everything changed

After everything I had learned I eventually f~~~ed up. After [edited] transformative years of this MGTOW monk lifestyle one day I met a beautiful women who seemed to be like minded to me and share my values and even after everything I had learned I somehow fell for her. She wanted me and she played the victim looking for a strong man to take care of her – she was attracted to me – Im a good looking ‘guy / s~~~head that fell off the wagon’. She would tell me 5 or 6 times a day how much she loved me (love bombing) and she would be hanging on to me like a damseI in distress. Of course you know what is coming – she turned out to be a skilled narcisistic control freak. An incurable covert manipulator. Even if she wanted to she couldn’t help but be a bitch.

I have been beating myself up ever since that I fell for her and that for too long I ignored the red flags and warning signs. Especially as I thought I had become good at spotting narcs from my previous experiences.

This was a very bad experience and ultimately a lesson for me. We fell for each other quickly and I thought I was in love with someone who apparently shared my values. (But of course this was delusion as 99.9% of women in this era have been conditioned to feminist values). She was constantly telling me how much she loved me 5 or 6 times a day (love bombing by a narc) and before long despite all the knowledge I had gained over the years I was on a rollercoast relationship where I couldn’t see the woods for the trees.

Lesson: Pheromones are dangerous.

The lesson is be careful getting involved with a woman no matter how beautiful the woman is and how good the physical chemistry is and especially if she shows signs of narcisism control freak behaviour. I have been an intelligent guy in most areas of my life but not this area – somehow I still fell for that women.
My life changed quickly – I moved to her country with her and I thought we were in love. After the initial months of hazy happiness when you think you are in love before long without realising it I was doing everything she wanted and very little of what I wanted. Whenever I confronted her to discuss anything she would cry for ages and play the victim to get her way so she could always win the argument. In hindsight I could write a f~~~in book on it. Alternatively she would get very aggressive and start screaming at me. Her behaviour became increasingly subtle, abusive and manipulative. The screaming at me and verbal abuse got worse. The truth is I had been overlooking the red flags and giving her the benefit of the doubt as I thought I loved her. But now I felt like she was sucking the soul out of me. She even complained aggressively that my very high salary would barely meet the lifestyle ‘we needed’.

She was changing from being charming to being a f~~~in pain in the ass control freak – everything was needless drama drama drama and trying to control me. In hindsight the only place she was not complaining was in the bedroom. I have a big penis and she seemed to be addicted to me f~~~ing her. In hindsight of course this really meant she was a slut that couldn’t be trusted as she was hooked on sex and wanted to get pregnant. I actually wish I never had that physical chemistry with her as then the relationship would not have advanced as far as it did.

With all this confusing behaviour, and lots of manipulative narcisistic behaviour, work stress, lets buy a house stress etc – I became ill and stressed.
As soon as I started to get some normal energy back I quickly and more clearly could see that she viewed me and everyone around her as something to be controlled and manipulated to meet her desires and wishes and any view on literally anything apart from her own view was attacked very aggressively or very subtly – including my view or her family’s view.

In reality it was all narcissistic nonsense – she was an incurable nightmare. The moment this realisation kicked in I quickly ended the relationship and moved back to my own country. What I thought was love was actually just physical chemistry and pheromone induced blind delusion and narc damsel in distress manipulation to try and hook me as a husband.

After we broke up and after I moved back to my own country she told me she was pregnant. She and the child live in a different country to me.

– In summary, I realised that she had a very controlling (narcissistic) character and I dumped her.

– I then did months of research on narcs to try and understand all this better

– I talked many times about it all with a psychologist who had 30 years
experience with relationships and narcs who said her behaviour was a manipulative narcissist control personality. She probably couldn’t change even if she wanted to.

– I have been watching MGTOW channels for ages and learning more..

– I have been receiving advice from 2 wise older male friends which includes to get a DNA test done.

I knew a long time before the baby was born that it was essential to get a DNA test. I knew that narcs cant be trusted so after the child was born I informed her for any child support to be sent a DNA test would have to be carried out first.

But there are 2 possible scenarios that it is not my child and this why I have estimated a 10% chance it is not my child. (maybe you guys think it’s a greater than 10% possibility ?)

The psychologist said I have to be detached from this narc woman and the whole situation for my own mental health and I feel this is true at least for the next few years.

I have felt a lot of guilt that I allowed this overall situation to happen that I cannot be there physically for the child (if its mine) as the child is in a different country and as there is no way on earth the mother and I will ever be getting back together. I have felt ongoing guilt and lack of self worth that I cannot and will not physically be there for the child in the same country – I do not want to be anywhere near the narc mother.

My psychologist keeps telling me that the child will be absolutely fine once they know they are loved by both parents [edited].

The whole experience has left me kinda traumatised, drained my confidence, and left me numb, anxious and unable to sleep right and unable to recapture the sense of wellbeing I had before. A psychologist, a wise older male friend have all said basically similar things. They say that I must become detached from the situation as I rightly will never be with the narc mother and that I should move on with my life as there is nothing I can do except give some money each month for the child and send the child gifts.

The psychologist says it would be wrong and damaging to my mental state for me to be near the mother again as she was such a toxic bitch to me and that I should not even consider going to live in that country to be near the young baby and that the baby is probably better off not caught in the middle of arguments. And that maybe there can be a relationship with the child in later years.

This is true – I do not want to be anywhere near the mother – it would be nuclear war.

The psychologist says it is a long life and the child will likely seek me out when older and a relationship may happen then. I know the child is a totally seperate person to the mother but its not good that a woman that I never want to see again is maybe my childs mother (subject to DNA test).

My friends wife said that it is really the mothers child now as I wont be and cannot be in the childs life and that this woman wanted a child.

Ive been struggling with guilt / lack of self esteem for having allowed this difficult situation to have happened particularly for the childs life (if its my child).

The psychologist and friends have said I should not put myself down – they say that I made an honest attempt at a relationship I just fell in love and that I did the right thing to end the relationship when I did. so now move on and just give some money for the child if its yours as there is nothing else really that can be done as I wont ever be with this woman and the child lives in a different country.

I have become somewhat lethargic in my life in reflecting on my current situation. My situation is minor in comparison to some of the stories described on this site, nevertheless it is where I am at. I want to get myself out of this mental swamp and regain my optimism, self respect and get on with achieving things. I have restarted a MGTOW monk lifestyle and am now trying to rebuild a new life.

I am reasonably settled in the advice the psychologist, my wise friend has given me as I really see no other option and do not want to be any where near the mother again. But I am definitely open to hearing more MGTOW comments/advice.
Apologies for this length of this post – I had to get all this off my chest.
I am going to keep reading the MGTOW forums and cheers for all the welcomes and all the comments.

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Jack Harper wrote:

Welcome Christopher.
Tower is right. If she isn’t ready to provide DNA test proof then the kid most likely isn’t yours. Don’t sign anything and don’t agree to pay anything.
Other than that it sounds like you have had a great life. I hope you can find your way to serenity once again.

Okay thanks Tower and thanks Jack.

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