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Hello MGTOW brothers,
I am a man in his [edited] who is from and lives in [edited]. With my experiences with women over the years and what I saw happening to friends I never saw the point in getting married. I was in essence MGTOW before I ever heard the word and eventually celibate MGTOW monk. After all my good work I fell for a beautiful [edited] girl and had a brief relationship – beware of pheromones/physical chemistry. Before this ‘fall off the wagon relationship’ my life was good. I understand a lot about how this messed up matrix of a world we live in works, but I naively fell for this woman and I have never been in the situation I describe below before.
I am grateful for any help/advice from fellow MGTOW that know about or has been through a similar situation.
After the initial phase of her love bombing me her narc behaviour became more apparent and I finally realised she was a complete incurable narc bitch and I dumped her – she had become a real and total nightmare. I then left [edited] (where we were living) and returned to my own country in [edited]. I lost my wellbeing – I had become traumatised from her extreme narc behaviour, verbal abuse and manipulation.
We both were raised in [edited] type middle class family backgrounds.
She contacted me after we broke up claiming that she is having my baby. There is now a child that lives with the mother {edited].Trying to get my head around all of this I needed counselling. I described the situation to a psychologist who then defined this woman as narc personality type, a princess type that expected everyone to comply to her wishes. That was my experience of her – she was a control freak.
There is and will be very little communication between me and this woman. In fact I never want to see her again and my psychologist and counsellor has advised for the good of my mental health that I should not be anywhere near this narc woman.
She is requesting child support money from me and for my name on the birth cert. I will not consent to either of these currently as a DNA test has not taken place. I have recently requested a DNA test as during the relationship I was away from her for [edited] so its possible she was with someone else. If I am not the father obviously I can forget about the whole thing.Help with the following questions would be very much appreciated.
If the DNA test shows that the child is mine:
What is ‘the ‘right’ thing to do’ ? I currently believe it is to give child support. (the reality is I cannot and will not physically be in the same country as the child). How much child support should I give ? (we are not married – it was a [edited] long relationship)
Should I attempt to have a relationship with the child? What could happen, if I bond with this child? Should I send letters to the child on its birthdays and christmas for example? Should I skype with the child when it is of school age ? The counsellor says skype would be too confusing for the child and that I should just send letters and gifts at birthdays.
The counsellor says that the reality is that I will not be in the childs life in this situation and that all I can do (if it is my child) is to give some money for the child and send letters and presents to the child at birthdays etc to let the child know she is loved and that she can then contact me if she wants to.
And says that I should move on with my life and detach myself from the situation for my own wellbeing (as what is the point of thinking endlessly about the situation if I cannot be in the childs life) and that maybe there can be a relationship with the child when the child is older. It has also been said to me that it is essentially ‘her child now’ and that even if it is my DNA the child will never really be mine in this situation.How do I proceed?
What is going on here? Are there other aspects of all this I should consider?
If she wont consent to a DNA test:
As yet I have not received a response from her in relation to my DNA test request, MGTOW here have said that this indicates she doesn’t know who the father is/that I am not the father. I agree. Knowing her character I also think there is a possibility that she is happy to torture me leaving me in doubt.
What do I do if she wont reply or consent to a DNA test? Do I fully presume then it is not my child, forget about it all and move on with my life ?
Registry Office
Even without a DNA test having taken place I know that soon I will be contacted via email by the [edited] Registry Office asking me if I consent to my name on the birth cert (as she is proceeding to register me as the father). What should I do ?
Are there implications of my name being on the birth cert that I should know about ?
Detach from the situation ?
The advice I have received so far is that for my own wellbeing I must remain somewhat detached as it looks as if I cannot be in the childs life, and also advice to “just ‘forget all about it’, just give some money and move on with my life”. I have been feeling guilt and a lack of self worth for not ending the relationship sooner before this difficult situation could occur and I want to do the right thing and also regain my own wellbeing because it’s a stressful situation and I do not want to continue to be stressed for years with this situation.
I am grateful for any advice/opinion from fellow MGTOW that know about or has been through a similar situation.
Christopher
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If she refuses to consent to the DNA test then I would forget all about it. Sounds like a scam to get you to send money on a regular basis. If she can get several men to do this then she is setup for 18 years or so. Until the [edited] authorities contact you I wouldn’t worry about it. They will check to see if indeed she is a mother and that the baby’s age is appropriate to the time you were there. Upon this contact reply that you insist on a DNA test, then wait. If she still refuses then just forget about it and go on with your life. If she consents to the DNA test then do what you have to and feel you should do. Do not let it ruin your life. Learn from this. Good luck
Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.
Well, I’m not gonna give you the legal advise part because I’m not educated in [edited] legal system.
But if the child is in fact yours, you will probably need to bite the bullet and cut the checks. But I wouldn’t consent to signing ANYTHING until a dna test is done AND you talk to a lawyer.
I’d also be prepared for that child to look you up when it grows up.
Good luck on this, bro, and keeps us updated.Like a bird on the wire, like a drunk midnight choir, I have tried in my way to be free.
Anonymous42Deny everything and submit someone else’s genetic material for testing! Really increase your odds of getting out of it!
No dna proof of paternity == no anything.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
She contacted me after we broke up claiming that she is having my baby.
Women claim all sorts of s~~~. It doesn’t mean anything. At all.
What is ‘the ‘right’ thing to do’ ?
Walk the f~~~ away.
We are way beyond what’s “right”. Was it “right” for her to unilaterally choose to have a child without asking your consent? Of course not. She doesn’t deserve “right”.
She has the undeserved “right to choose”. You do not. She has the moral responsibility to pay for her choices. You do not.
Your only concern is the legal repercussions.
If she tries to pursue legal action, get a lawyer and ask him. Don’t ask him about what’s “right”. Ask him how to protect yourself from a gold digging whore trying to spring a baby trap. ALWAYS DENY PATERNITY. INSIST ON A DNA TEST. FALSIFY THE RESULTS JUST TO BE SURE. If she refuses a DNA test, then you know for sure she’s truing to cuck you. Cut all ties and walk away. Threaten her with legal action if she ever tries to contact you again.
Scorched earth.
I know that soon I will be contacted via email by the Australian Registry Office asking me if I consent to my name on the birth cert (as she is proceeding to register me as the father). What should I do ?
Tell them no. You do not consent. You are not the father. Tell them you broke up because she wouldn’t have sex with you but would f~~~ any random drunk she met at a bar.
They will do everything they can to try to bully, trick, con, or force you into defraying their welfare costs for her and her little spawn. Do not let them. Do not cooperate. F~~~ them.
OK, well you’re in a tricky situation. In reality, and legally, she can’t do a lot. She’s in a different country, and the [edited] won’t be sending their version of the Child Support Agency around to your door any time soon. Their Child Support agency CAN make an application for child maintenance from you if you live in a reciprocal country that have legal agreements with them. In reality that’s just a paper tiger: they really can’t do a lot.
However for that to work, you have to admit paternity, and you have to basically (and voluntarily) submit to DNA testing. And even then, there’s not a good chance of them getting money from you.
If you want to forget about all this, then no communication with her (no emails, no phone calls, no letters zilch).
It sounds like the ex is trying to punish you with ‘your’ baby. Walk away.
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
Thank you very much for these responses guys I really do appreciate it.
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Here’s the deal. [edited] has excellent services for mothers and she can take advantage of that. I don’t hate sounding insensitive because honestly, she had the choice to not have a baby but she decided to spring all of this on you now. If she couldn’t handle the responsibility of having a child in the first place and needing to rely on you to make ends meet she could have terminated the pregnancy and none of this would have been an issue.
They can’t force you to sign the birth cert and they can’t force you to take a paternity test. Add in the fact that if women want a truly equal society like they say, they need to lay in the beds that they made rather than making men do it.
You guys f~~~ed, she had ample chances to avoid this but she never did, you are off the hook. Let their tax payers cover the costs and live your life as you see fit. Also let this be a lesson for you. No snatch is worth the 18 years of possible debtors prison that a child can bring. Get a vasectomy and drive on because it’s always better to be sure of your innocence when it comes to things like this.
She bears responsibility for this as much as you. If [edited] has a good system for taking care of these situations and you have no feelings toward the child then forget it and move on. If there is a DNA test then have her send the child’s DNA sample to you for testing that way you know it won’t be fraudulent.
No dna proof of paternity == no anything.
Agreed.
In this situation “NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.”
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
She bears responsibility for this as much as you.
Wrong. He bears no responsibility for this at all. All the responsibility is on her.
She has a “right to choose”.
He doesn’t.
If she is not willing to consent to a DNA test then she is f~~~ing with you. If she actually consents to this and you are found to the father. I’ll put it like this the poor little girl has been through enough. Do what you can to be in that girls life and think about a good ole vasectomy.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
If she actually consents to this
… fake the DNA results.
F~~~ her.
But yes about the vasectomy.
Didnt we have this same conversation with you last week but the mother was from the UK?
This is a very difficult situation. There are two sides; the legal and the ethical. My advice is to keep them separate in your mind.
When it comes to the legal research it thoroughly and then come to terms with it. It may or may not be ethical but men do not have much choice except to comply. You can of course find ways of complying only with the letter of the law if you need to.
The important thing to do is to examine yourself and see what your moral compass is telling you to do. Depending on how used to self examination you are this may be straightforward or not. There are layers of hurt and layers of social expectation that will overly and colour what you feel deep down inside. It can take quite some time to come to terms enough with the effect of the other things before you can see clearly your own moral feelings.
If the mother is a narcissist then you are going to suffer by having any contact with her, yet your only route to the child at this stage is through the mother, who will also be telling the child anything she likes about you and your character. Again this is a situation where it is very hard to give a blanket prescription of advice as it will depend on how you can cope with her lies and schemes and whether she will actually pass anything from you to the child anyway. I have a not dissimilar situation and I do not know if my child has received a thing from me. This situation can be very hard and if she chooses to be awkward and to press on your sore spots that she knows will give a reaction then you are best trying to minimise or eliminate contact or else it will come back on you and on your relationship with the child.
When it comes to paying money; Women very, very rarely ever dedicate money they receive for a child to the child. it may be a case of “The child and I need a new car” when actually it makes no difference which car the child rides in the back seat of. Or “A holiday will be good for us”. When the child has grown up it is unlikely to have actually had a significantly better education or life experiences as a result of your money. You however will have suffered greatly and the mother will have enjoyed her good fortune without actually feeling any gratitude to you -she was only getting what was her right anyway so how dare you feel you have done her any favour.
My personal advice on the money side would be to try to minimise payment within the limits of the letter of the law as I do not think by the sound of it this mother will be grateful. Instead open an account for your child and put into it what you think is fit (possibly what the CSA would have demanded but possibly different). If you present them with the account when they turn 18 or 21 it will kill at a stroke only ill feeling they may have that you never provided for them.
As men we do need to consider what our children will think of us. Women hold all the cards these days, this is especially true when it comes to a child’s impressions of the world -“the hand that rocks the cradle…” We do need to think hard we can present a positive view of fatherhood while at the same time refusing to be crushed by gynocentrism. Going one’s own way means following one’s own moral compass and that means taking the time to get to know it and see it separate from the other things that appear to affect it.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
Deny everything and submit someone else’s genetic material for testing! Really increase your odds of getting out of it!
If I could do it all over again, I would definitely take that route.
I wish I had advice like this before I “Did the Right Thing.”
The legal system belongs to our Great Enemy.
Never give them ammunition!It has been my experience that every Dollar given to these Wild Boars will be used to enable her Narcissism and empower her wickedness.
Many Thanks for hitting the nail on the head again regarding a man’s best interests Tower.
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
these Wild Boars
That is an accurate description, MM.
That is an accurate description, MM.
I must give all due Credit and Honors to Tower, see link:
/forums/topic/todays-womyn-are-like-wild-boars-razerbacks/
“Make no concessions for this beast,
it has no mercy and will never be domesticated,
it will kill all the fields and fruit trees you planted for your survival.
Then it will devour you at your most vulnerable and weakest moment…..”
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
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