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HI FELLOW MGTOWs,
First of all, it’s been a over a year and a half since I found MGTOW. I’d like to thank you guys for all the awesome work you’ve done.For my first post topic I’d like to comment on something Sandman Said in one of his previous videos titled “pornography liberates men”. In the middle of the video Sandman mentioned the decline of the fertility rates in Muslim counties, especially in Saudi Arabia. Well it’s a true statistic, but porn alone isn’t really to blame. Thanks to the gynocentric politically correct western media, there are a lot of misconceptions and stereotypes about the Arab and Muslim world. First let me state that although they seem like patriarchal societies on the surface, they are far from it.
Most educated Arab women today identify as feminists, while some of them are true in spirit to first wave western feminism, MOST of them are closer to 3rd wave feminists. They have recently pushed through a lot of legislation promoting female privilege; as Female employment now surpasses male employment in all fields. Even recently women won seats in on the municipal councils via Female votes, paving the way for female mayors and officials… ( you don’t hear about that on fox news)
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/women-win-seats-landmark-saudi-arabia-elections-151213054750832.htmlThey are even trying to change the divorce laws to match those of the west. Alimony in Islam is only paid out until the woman remarries, and for the child, it’s limited to food, clothing and other basic needs until the child reaches the age of adulthood. Single mothers, either by divorce or other circumstances are now given free government home ownership as part of a program to support single women. Shopping malls that only allow families and women to shop have sprung up all over the country in recent decades, while single men are kicked out and banned from such public spaces unless accompanied by a female. In an article last year it stated that Saudi Women spend nearly 1.7$ billion Dollars on cosmetics alone.
http://www.arabnews.com/news/fashion/610191The only valid complaint that Saudi Feminists have is that women cannot drive here, but in retrospect… as a result; almost every household in Saudi Arabia is forced to employ personal chauffeurs from 3rd world countries like south Asia and the Philippines. Women don’t drive but are driven around in fancy brand new cars like Hollywood divas…yet continue to complain. Who pays for all this? The men of course, who work and toil tirelessly under the sun where it sometimes reaches 50C degrees.
For men, Marriage in Countries like Kuwait and Saudi Arabia is not an easy task, Single men are treated like criminals their whole life until they get married. And marriage isn’t cheap… but due to a young adulthood filled with sexual frustration and social deprivation…marriage is seen as the key to acceptance in society, so men are whipped into it…
Men seeking marriage are expected to pay a woman’s family a dowry, as well as her weight in gold and diamonds, pay for the actual wedding and buy her a complete set of new furniture, as well as provide her a new car and a driver. A typical Saudi Marriage will cost somewhere in the 150,000 USD range, that’s excluding the rent.
Arab women today are also extremely hypergamous as well; in short they are mirroring their western female feminist counterparts. Trading upwards every chance they get. As a result, the divorce rate is now around 45% while the official percentage is around 40% as conservatives try to save face in the media.
http://www.arabnews.com/news/744426As a result, a lot of men are now late to the marriage game as they cannot afford it thanks to rising unemployment and low wages for men… and women are hitting the wall.
In fact, the situation is so bad, that ISIS and other terror groups actually use the terms “free marriage” to attract young, poor uneducated gullible males from conservative upbringings into its ranks and that’s how they grew so fast in number.
http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-is-recruiting-in-the-most-perverse-way-imaginable-2015-8While educated & divorced men are slowly abandoning marriage, as all they have to do now is look good and Drive a fancy car, get his hands on alcohol and ecstasy from the underground and he can get all the pussy they want, they’ve basically been transformed into male chameleons.
And it’s like this or even worse in neighboring countries Kuwait and UAE as well, and they are about a decade ahead of Saudi Arabia.As a MGTOW in development and someone who’s traveled the world, I can tell you, it really doesn’t matter where women are from or what religion they worship… female nature is female nature wherever we go.
I hope I have been able to shed some light that many in the west don’t see.There’s a lot more I’d like to talk about in detail about the situation as well as my experiences in this part of the world, which I will probably do in future posts.
Until then, thanks and keep up all the great work
Best regards
Snoonz
TheArabMgtowcceptance in society, so men are whipped into it…
Men seeking marriage are expected to pay a woman’s family a dowry, as well as her weight in gold and diamonds, pAnother great reason to stay away from fat chicks
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
Snooks, I for one thank you for writing this, it offers a great perspective, and you are correct, it’s a bit shocking to this westerner. Keep it coming brother.
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
LOOOL
thanks man, means alot!
with all the hate and rage in the world.. its sad to see how we let social engineering tear us apart as human beings.LOOOL
thanks man, means alot!
with all the hate and rage in the world.. its sad to see how we let social engineering tear us apart as human beings.Man, you got that right. I’ve worked with Saudi, Israeli, Greek ,Thai German, Australian……military. ALL the guys are the same. No exceptions
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
These stories are great, chips away at racial tensions between men when we realize gynocentrism is pervasive across ALL of humanity.

Anonymous42Great post Snoonz! I read another from a Saudi about a year ago, he said the same thing regarding men being worked to death to support the extravagance and decadence of Saudi women.
Feminism has set men on fire! One after another we can see it’s industrial hypergamy play out all around us in each country it infects.
Women are a curse on man when men allow them to run free, but only if he retains any sort of hope for them after they’re released.
When a man lets them go, lets the society that panders to them go, only then can a man salvage any kind of ENJOYABLE LIFE!
These appear by all accounts to be part of the end times.
According to biblical prophecy MGTOW is going far past EPIDEMIC or PANDEMIC! We’re the forefathers of an organic movement that was fertilized by feminism’s misandry, belittlement, berating, and overall abusive treatment of men in and on every level of society.
We were the safety net that brought civilization from the Stone Age to the Space Age.
Feminism has spread throughout the world and has set the societies that embrace it holding a one-way ticket back to the stone age.
Whatever “garden” we decide to build, history teaches us to keep women the f~~~ out! THEY WILL DESTROY IT!
Decadence is a female sin for the most part, it’s the fuel that drives hypergamy. The USA is in full decline and only now after it’s men are destroyed the women are frightened and changing their tune, but too late, they set the safety net on fire and now like us they stare into the deep dark abyss.
Save yourselves and let the burning safety net go! Let the big strong independent women fall under their own excessive and gluttonous weight…
Welcome, Snooze. Thanks for providing your interesting perspective. When it’s all said and done, we can conclude EWALT [Enough Women Are Like That] – copyright TaxGuy.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
Great post Snoonz! I read another from a Saudi about a year ago, he said the same thing regarding men being worked to death to support the extravagance and decadence of Saudi women.
Feminism has set men on fire! One after another we can see it’s industrial hypergamy play out all around us in each country it infects.
Women are a curse on man when men allow them to run free, but only if he retains any sort of hope for them after they’re released.
When a man lets them go, lets the society that panders to them go, only then can a man salvage any kind of ENJOYABLE LIFE!
These appear by all accounts to be part of the end times.
According to biblical prophecy MGTOW is going far past EPIDEMIC or PANDEMIC! We’re the forefathers of an organic movement that was fertilized by feminism’s misandry, belittlement, berating, and overall abusive treatment of men in and on every level of society.
We were the safety net that brought civilization from the Stone Age to the Space Age.
Feminism has spread throughout the world and has set the societies that embrace it holding a one-way ticket back to the stone age.
Whatever “garden” we decide to build, history teaches us to keep women the f~~~ out! THEY WILL DESTROY IT!
Decadence is a female sin for the most part, it’s the fuel that drives hypergamy. The USA is in full decline and only now after it’s men are destroyed the women are frightened and changing their tune, but too late, they set the safety net on fire and now like us they stare into the deep dark abyss.
Save yourselves and let the burning safety net go! Let the big strong independent women fall under their own excessive and gluttonous weight…
Holy s~~~, I just realized they f~~~ing took another bite of the Apple! The snake said ” did He really say that you would die, surly you will not die”
Now the snake said ” don’t you want more, your not free, you don’t need him, he is oppressing you”
Nope, not biting this time
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

Anonymous42Nope, not biting this time
BINGO!
Greetings Snoonz,
Appreciate every word of your introduction and the great comments it has generated. Bravo MGTOWs.
with all the hate and rage in the world.. its sad to see how we let social engineering tear us apart as human beings.
The Communists that are controlling the media in the West, especially YouTube and Facebook, have been promotion a lot of the rage towards Muslim countries.
It is good to read the truth for a change.it really doesn’t matter where women are from or what religion they worship… female nature is female nature wherever we go.
Agreed.
My top five despised aspects of Woman’s Nature are lying, “Scorched earth policies” or character assassination, Narcissism, Hypergamy, and “Crazy Town.”
I find lying to be the most destructive and costly. The “Domestic Abuse” mechanism is obscene.
Woman lying about domestic abuse and rape have reached outrageous levels in the West.A man is now considered guilty until proven innocent.
When the Western Media complains about Muslim countries regarding Woman’s Issues, the objectionable stuff will seem reasonable to me considering the source.
One of the most promoted grievances by the Communist/ Feminists about practices in Muslim countries is that a woman’s word is only worth half of a man’s.
The Hive works up to a frenzy when they complain about a Muslim woman “having to produce four male witnesses.”And woman are punished for bringing up false charges.
For any Western man who has had their lives destroyed by a woman’s lies, these “Complaints” sound practical and feel like justice.
Alimony in Islam is only paid out until the woman remarries, and for the child, it’s limited to food, clothing and other basic needs until the child reaches the age of adulthood.
Does that money really go towards the child?
How is that monitored?
Western woman take the money for their own narcissistic ends and neglect the children. Complaints by the father and children are ignored.
Single mothers, either by divorce or other circumstances are now given free government home ownership as part of a program to support single women.
That policy has created a bunch of savages in the West. Most of the boys who grow up in these single mother households become adult children and abominations.
Are there any Saudi “Dindu Nuffins” yet?
The female take over will continue as that is what global bastards are shooting for.
Agreed.
And well said.
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
When the Western Media complains about Muslim countries, the objectionable stuff will seem reasonable to me considering the source.
Yea well let’s not forget the chopping off heads, child soldiers, throwing gays off buildings and boy toys.
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
her weight in gold and diamonds
Welcome and I’m glad they don’t have that custom here
only the VERY rich could afford a North Americans weight
Even recently women won seats in on the municipal councils via Female votes,
As I remember,they didn’t win that many to make a impact
They are even trying to change the divorce laws to match those of the west. Alimony in Islam is only paid out until the woman remarries, and for the child, it’s limited to food, clothing and other basic needs until the child reaches the age of adulthood.
That still sounds better than the life time Alimony some
states have in place.
Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
Eye opening, thanks for sharing.
I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I?

Anonymous54Thanks Snooze. Awalt the world over. I was shocked to see the Saudi’s give women the right to vote. Havent they learned from the west what will happen?
It shows that in this life there is only one universal truth – AWALT.
Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.
Snooks, I for one thank you for writing this, it offers a great perspective, and you are correct, it’s a bit shocking to this westerner. Keep it coming brother.
Excellent insight to a culture we have been lied to in the media. I really had no idea it was like that. Feminists are destroying culture world wide.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
First off, Thank You for the facts!
Does that money really go towards the child?
At 30 they’re thinking, “2 decades of (child) support $$$.”
At 50 they’re thinking, “Oh S~~~!!”Their assumption was, “I’ll just find another jackass.”
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Holy s~~~, I just realized they f~~~ing took another bite of the Apple!
And to think the very first redpill warning was in the book of Genesis all along, we just did’t read it right. After all, it was Eve who gave Adam the apple.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
Wow, thank you very much for your precious contribution, Snoonz!
Please let me add a little observation I have made in the couple last weeks:
I’m European and work in a big clothes store as a sales assistant where many, many arab tourists (from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, VAE,…) come to spend their money, or rather should I say: Many Arab tourist women drag their husbands into the store to spend their husbands’ money.
So, at first I felt sorry for these women dressed in burkas and niqabs. What kind of society would oppress women so much and so obviously, I thought. However, after a closer look, I’ve discovered that this was a grave misconception. Arab looking people are still a relatively rare sight in Europe, – though through the migrant crisis less and less -, so of course my attention would be drawn towards them. One day, an Arab muslim man, who was carrying the heavy shopping bags of his wife and looking after his child, caught my attention. He was looking at me every now and then, smiling quite awkwardly, and I didn’t know why. Was he gay or what? No, I quickly came to the conclusion he wasn’t a secretly gay man who just tried to take advantage of his wife being busy with packing things into the bag mindlessly. It wasn’t that kind of thing. He had that kind of miserable, exhausted look in his eyes, they were crying “help me!”. Do you know what I mean?
And this wasn’t the only time that happened to me.At the till (register), a man from Kuwait with his wife in front of me. As always, the wife bought an enormous, ridiculous amount of items her husband would pay for, of course. The cashier process took very long. I could clearly see the man felt tired and really ashamed of the situation, of his wife. Sure, they’re in their holidays and want to spend their money. The way these Arab women, these wives behave though, causes their husbands to be ashamed. I notice it ever since the aforementioned guy gave me that look. It really struck me like lightning to see how these Arab muslim women are only “oppressed” on the very surface. The truth is, and I think I have seen that, that these wives really own their husbands. It’s them who are in control of the money the man has earned. Right after I had been finished at the checkout counter, I walked back onto the selling floor and met the couple again. The man gave me that ashamed look again and just said “thank you”. Apparently to me, it didn’t sound like a thank you. It was more like an apology for his wife’s behaviour and the circumstances she’d caused.
Ever since, I feel sorry for many of those Arab muslim men.
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