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Topic: Divorce Tactics for Women
While obviously a tongue-in-cheek “lawyer ad,” it is obviously oh-so-true.
“Divorce & Child Custody Tactics for Women:
Do you want to maximize your husband’s pain and suffering during your divorce? Here’s how.”
by Jake MorphoniosDear Moms of America,
Are you tired of your marriage? Does it make you angry that your husband doesn’t spend enough time with you? Have you “grown apart”? Then it’s time for a divorce!
We all know the routine. You want out, right? Your friends and family have all said they would support you. They have given you the emotional courage you need to finally leave your hubby. But you’ve got a problem, don’t you? You guys have had children together and that obnoxious bum husband of yours isn’t going to give up his kids easily. If you share custody with him after divorce, you are going to have to keep interacting with your ex on a regular basis. What good is divorce if you can’t get rid of the guy? Besides, equal custody means you won’t get as much child support from him. Problems, problems. Well, don’t worry! I have got some answers for you.
First, you need to strike hard and quick with a trumped up allegation of abuse. You pick whichever one suits you the most. Don’t worry. Nobody is going to actually investigate your claim of abuse, so you have nothing to fear. I recommend the “My husband has made verbal threats to hurt me” allegation. It’s your word against his! And who wouldn’t believe a poor, scared mom? Surely a woman would never accuse her husband of such a thing unless it was true! Current domestic violence laws guarantee that your hubby will be removed from your home and compelled to stay away from you. (Many thanks to Joe Biden and the good folks behind VAWA legislation.)
But if you want to bring out the big guns, I recommend what those of us inside the divorce industry have come to term the “nuclear option”. Just call up Child Protective Services and tell them that your husband has molested one of his own children. I can’t wait for you to see the look on his face! It is best for you to choose a child who is either 1) impressionable enough to repeat a story that you have taught him, or 2) is young enough that she can’t be expected to articulate what “really” happened in her own words. A good time to make the child molestation allegation is after daddy has helped bathe your child. “Daddy washed me ALL over” is sure to raise questions.
I give you my personal, money-back guarantee that either of these allegations will result in your husband being expelled from your home, a restraining order will be issued to keep him away long enough for you to establish a new status-quo custody living arrangement, and he will never recover from the social stereotype of wife-beater / child-molester. With your husband safely on the ropes, you are now free to begin planning how you are going to spend that alimony and child support! You can thank me later.
But wait, there’s more!
Speaking of child support, I recommend that you go for the jugular. Comedian Robin Williams once said that the word “divorce” comes from Latin word for “removing a man’s testicles through his wallet”. And he’s right. Child support can be calculated not just on what your husband currently makes, but on what the court believes he has the potential to make! Let’s think about it. Has your husband ever had a job making more money than he presently does? Has he ever gotten bonuses in the past? Don’t you think that he should be working a second or third job for the “best interests” of your kids? The court LOVES to impute a non-custodial dad’s income.In fact, it wouldn’t be a surprise to me if his support order is so high that there will be no way he’ll be able to keep up with the payments. If you’ve ever wanted to see your husband reduced to penury, your wish is about to come true! It doesn’t matter if there is no logical way he can afford the payments. Heck, it doesn’t even matter if he falls on hard times, has his pay reduced by his employer or gets downsized due to the economy. If he misses a single payment to you for any reason then he is going to be lumped in with the rest of America’s “deadbeat dads”. This is where the real fun begins.
You have no idea how many parties have financial interests in your louse of a husband paying his child support. First, there is the federal government seeking to recoup money from “deadbeat dads” to subsidize its welfare programs. Next is your state government that gets millions and millions of federal tax dollars to use as it wishes if it can show that it has “collected” child support and enforced support orders under Title IV-D. Then there are all of the private child support collection companies looking to make big bucks. And we can’t leave out those of us in the divorce-for-profit industry, namely divorce lawyers, family law judges, custody evaluators, child support enforcement agents, mediators, etc. Divorce and child custody is a billion dollar industry. I guarantee you that you will find all the help you need to go after your ex if he doesn’t cough up every penny he owes us. I mean, owes you. I mean, owes the kids. Whatever.
The full force of the Child Support Collection bureaucracy will compel him to pay. Not only will he be branded with the Orwellian “newspeak” label of “deadbeat dad” and be marginalized in society, but the industry will also:
1) Garnish his wages
2) Order him to work overtime and take additional jobs
3) Take away his driver’s license
4) Put him in jail
5) Confiscate his professional licenses
6) Put his face on “deadbeat dad” Wanted posters and pizza boxes
7) Put him in jail again
8) And much, much more!And before you start feeling guilty, let me just say this. The guy deserves it. He wasn’t good enough to you. He didn’t make you feel good enough about yourself. He didn’t help out around the house the way you wanted him to. He spent too much time at work and in front of the television. These behaviors might not be criminal acts, but they should be. In fact, in divorce court they ARE criminal acts. But don’t worry about bothersome notions such as “due process” and “constitutional rights” for your husband. The fact that he is a man is proof enough of his guilt. It is proof enough to justify kicking him out of his home, prohibiting him from having any say in your choice to divorce him, in taking a large percentage of his income “for the children”, and most importantly – it is proof enough to justify removing him from his children’s lives. They have YOU after all. Why should you have to share custody with your ex? It just doesn’t make sense to those of us in the divorce and custody industry.
So…
If you want to divorce your husband, take his money and eliminate him from your children’s lives, then I’d like to be your attorney. Trust me. I care about YOU. And naturally, what I do is all for the children."You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."Topic: Lawyer Karma
Mr. Lame’s thread about hiring a lawyer ( /forums/topic/woman-lawyer/ ) reminded me of an incident at the end of my divorce that some of you might appreciate.
My divorce lawyer was pretty cool and pretty sharp. He was also a little rough around the edges and had his own personal problems (married and realized he was gay, was seeing men on the side). However, he only charged $200/hour.
My ex’s lawyer was your typical high-priced, slick suited, arrogant prick. He was also a member of my church and supposedly a good Christian. He latched onto my wife during our marriage struggles after she had an affair. While others were encouraging me to work it out, he was whispering in her ear how she needed to divorce me and deserved a big pay day.
After my ex and I agreed to divorce amicably and I moved out, we were negotiating the terms of the divorce. After a couple weeks, I noticed that her tone changed and that she was demanding more and was saying things like “I just want what is legally mine.” Turns out Mr. Prick was pulling the strings. But I was naïve and just kept trying to hammer out an agreement. Finances were tough as I was still paying all the bills for her (i.e. house, car, insurance, utilities) plus I was renting a house to live in. She worked as a teacher and had the kids our house (I wanted minimal disruption in their lives). All her bills were paid, so she had her entire paycheck for discretionary spending (food, clothes, entertainment), while I had about $100/month for discretionary spending.
When I realized that amount wasn’t going to cover it, I extended my contract with National Guard to get a $10,000 signing bonus. I figured that would carry me through until the divorce was finalized.
BIG LESSON: The money was deposited into an account the ex had access to. There are a lot of people who have been through a divorce who are groaning right now.
Up till this point I was still dropping by to see the kids and take care of the house. On the weekend, I took the kids camping. On Tuesday, I went out with the kids to a school performance, and I noticed the ex was acting really weird. I called on Wednesday to see the kids and the ex was distant and said it wasn’t a good time. Thursday I got a really weird feeling and I checked my bank account: -$1,200. There was a $7,500 withdrawal and a couple of checks for monthly bills that the bank went ahead and honored (for a $35 fee each, of course). Worst was a couple more checks were en route (including the house payment and my rent payment — both of those were returned NSF). Basically the day after my military bonus hit, it was gone.
Enraged, I called the ex and she said that she got a lawyer and he advised her to take all the money to “protect herself”. [Yeah, more like to pay his greedy ass]. I called my lawyer to let him know that the divorce was now contested.
Saturday morning I was awakened by a knock at the door. I was greeted by a process server that handed me a restraining order and a divorce petition (I s~~~ you not) three inches thick. I read through all of it and my brain exploded. Never has the eye seen nor the ear heard such a collection of lies, half-truths and ridiculous bulls~~~. I also discovered that a woman can go into a courthouse, say she fears for her life and get a legal order that says you can no longer go to your house, see your kids, go to their school or church or be anywhere near them. I also found out that by checking a little box on the order, she can have your guns confiscated. Easy as that. No proof or precedent needed.
My ex and I hardly argued, there was never any physical abuse and the cops had never been called. But no matter. Her lawyer had told her to meet him at the courthouse with no explanation. When she got there, he had all the paperwork ready to file the petition and a restraining order. He also advised her to take any money she could get her hands before I was served.
Then he set up an appointment with a female therapist he was cozy with to interview the kids to see what kind of sexual abuse charges they could trump up. They got a letter from her stating that while the kids deny any inappropriate sexual contact, the father did take the youngest to Disneyland by himself which is very suspicious and should be investigated further. [Holy f~~~! The wife was out of town with the oldest, so I did something fun with my youngest, and we all agreed to it. But this was typical to take any event in our 16+ year marriage and turn in into some kind of abuse].
I think you get the picture about Mr. Prick, Divorce Lawyer. And so it went, he filed motions of delay, change of judges, “oh-I-am-out-town” to prevent me from having a hearing on the restraining order. Six long, f~~~ing months I couldn’t see my kids or go to my house before the judge put a stop to it and said either be in court or I quash the order. The whole time the ex kept saying, “Agree to our [draconian] divorce decree and I will lift the restraining order [1/2 of my income for an indefinite period of time as alimony, sole custody of the kids, child support to the tune of $2,000/month, 60% of my retirement, the majority of assets, I assume all debt and her lawyer’s fees, and pay insurance for as long as she needed it. To add insult to injury, I would only be allowed to see the children for 3 hours on the weekend with a court-appointed guardian present]. Keep in mind she was making $36K a year as a teacher, and our $25K home equity loan (which I was supposed to assume) paid for her degree. Mr. Prick swore to her that is what she was legally entitled to and that she would get a huge payday.
My lawyer was pretty good about it. He kept telling me that I would get my day in court and Santa-judge wouldn’t grant her Christmas list. I wanted to hit back hard. She was the one who had an affair, I was the one who raised the kids while putting her through college while working from home, she was the one who was bi-polar and on meds, she was the one who would flip out at times and even was written up at work for storming into another elementary teacher’s class and called her a “f~~~ing bitch” in front of the children.
He told me that we didn’t need to do that. That I would get what you want without doing that, reminding me that once the divorce was done and lawyers gone, I had to still deal with her because of the kids. He would work with their lawyer to hammer out an agreement. So I waited. In the meantime I missed my daughter’s 8th grade graduation, my other daughter’s birthday, and my daughters couldn’t be there for their grandmother’s wedding.
When my day in court for the restraining order came, my lawyer destroyed them, showed a pattern of lies, and generally made them look stupid. Since no abuse ever happened, there was no evidence, and their contrived evidence was pretty stupid/weak. The judge agreed and even chastised the counsel for filing this and considered making her pay my lawyer’s fees.
Mr. Prick was smart, because for the next hearing he had the judge switched so they could regroup and play the lies better. He coached up the ex and put up a better defense. It made a little bit of difference, but even this judge told them he had heard enough about alleged “abuse” and was not buying it. He issued a temporary order till next hearing for my visitation rights and ordered I only had to pay the mortgage on our house she was living in. Reality was starting to set in.
Mr. Prick changed gears, filing a motion for an all-day divorce hearing that pushed the hearing out several months. It just so happened that I would be deployed out of country at that time. Mr. Prick figured he could force a settlement more to their liking because of that. I countered by going through a pain-in-the-ass military hearing to get my deployment deferred.
When my ex asked if I was willing to settle on their only slightly better terms before I deployed, I told her that I was not deploying and that I will see them in court. My lawyer tried to work something out with her lawyer and finally gave up. He confessed that normally lawyers can work out a reasonable agreement, but he was Mr. Prick.
While waiting for court, I noticed my lawyer was becoming unresponsive to my calls, and during our last court hearing, he wasn’t very well prepared. Eventually I had to get another lawyer who turned out to be awesome. Later I found out my ex was going through his own divorce, got dumped by his gay lawyer and tried to commit suicide.
With my ex’s case in doubt and with her banging another guy halfway across the country, she dumped the kids on me and said she wanted to settle. I told her to fire Mr. Prick and we would talk. She agreed, said he was a “liar and a thief”. We hammered out an agreement that I was WAY TO GENEROUS and had the papers drawn up.
However, Mr. Prick wanted his cut. Not only was he hounding her for payment (I saw the nasty letters at the house), he was lying to her telling her I had twice the amount I was claiming, was scamming her, and if he represented her, she would get most of it.
It was tough talking her down from that, but eventually she signed. There was still a lot of bulls~~~ to come from that crazy bitch, but at least I was divorced, had the kids, and she was living halfway across the country (with an unemployed bum in his parent’s extra mobile home living only off my alimony).
I tell you that story to tell the actual point of this thread, coming up next.
"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."One thing I have learned in my life, regarding people, male and female alike, is that people are full of s~~~. In fact, humans are so competitive socially that if you are honest and kind to them, a lot of people will see you as weak.
I have been aware of the way women have a tendency to be irrational, brazen in their lies, and even lacking empathy towards men to extent that the man can even die. It was one of the hardest concepts I had to learn about women, as they ripped my heart out and handed it to me a with a smile, a few times….
However, in order for MGTOW to be a legitimate movement, men need to show integrity too. But as I become more and more involved with other MGTOWs my bulls~~~ buzzer has been going off. Men lie too. It is just that men lie about different things then do women. I remember a guy I knew, who was considered to be a jock, and one night while drinking beers with this guy, a woman’s name came up, from the past, and he cavalierly asks us, “Did I ever f… her?”, as if he’d had so much pussy in his wizened 24 years of life that he wasn’t sure… BZZZZZZZZT…. Bulls~~~.
Example 1: While listening to a video of MGTOW radio announcer reading a man’s story about how a woman trying to trump up sexual harassment charges at work to get him fired. The story teller says that he had a casual exchange with a female coworker and “went on without thinking a second thought”, then later was able to save his job and prove she lied because he had randomly thought to have a voice recorder running when he talked to the women…. BZZZZZZZT Bulls~~~…. That is a made up story. NOT THAT IT ISN’T POSSIBLE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN WITH A TYPICAL WOMAN to trump up such an event, it is just silly that he would think to tape a passing exchange in the lunchroom with his voice recorder, anticipating allegations, and at the same time having a casual/unexpected exchange with a random coworker.
Example 2: Especially when I was younger, I noticed that when men get together and talk about how much pussy they get, they almost always exaggerate their virility, if not flat out lie about it. Since I have been watching a lot of videos and reading a lot of MGTOW stuff, I have noticed that almost all the MGTOW experts make sure that they validate their stories to the men listening with their extensive experience with women. There is almost always a statement about how they have “chosen” to date multiple women at the same time, on their own terms; or they imply they can pick up on any women they want; etc… etc… BZZZZZZZZT Bulls~~~….
I’m just saying, for MGTOW to be a valid philosophy, movement, or “taking of the red pill”, the “red pill” must not be validated with bulls~~~; otherwise MGTOW is no more legitimate than the women’s movement.
Hey whats up everybody,
This MGTOW movement/philosophy has so profoundly changed my life, I have a hard time even putting it into words. If I had paid more attention in English class instead of looking up skirts, maybe it would have been a little easier, so here it goes.
My childhood was brutal after the divorce of my parents at five years of age, where my mother got custody of me and my brother. My mother is a super feminist baby boomer, on six psychotropic drugs with narcissistic personality disorder. She committed physical violence as well as psychological violence against me. I never understood what the f~~~ her problem was with me, until stumbling across MGTOW on youtube. Now I realize she was trying to emasculate me and remove all parts of my father from me. My father is very Alpha! Her shaming and mind control only caused me to fight back and act out even more. So when you cant break a mans spirit, what do you do in today’s society? Drug your kid, that’s right give him a label of ‘ADD’ and give him drugs to turn him into a quiet submissive little girl. To be manipulated and controlled and molded into the perfect mangina! I would spit these drugs out, fighting her with my entire being. Only to have her come after me violently. One day she was trying to beat the crap out of me, I grabbed a can of mace and told her if she hit me again I would discharge the can. She came at me and she got sprayed. I got locked up in a mental hospital for 30 days for defending myself, wtf? At that point my father rescued me from this horrible situation, and I went on to have an awesome childhood. My brother stayed and he is so beta and broken, he never could stand up for himself, and still cant to this very day!
Fast forward to adult hood, where I’m half mangina/half Alpha, I get married at 28 against my will, only to have a marriage that somewhat resembles my early childhood. Bitchy, bitchy, complain, control, and so on. I was very unhappy, my wife turned into a disgusting pig, leaving uneaten food out all over the place, piles of dirty clothes, bloody tampons visible in the trash, she disgusted me so much the thought of sleeping with her made me f~~~ing want to throw up. She also ran up 20k in credit cards I didn’t even know we had. I got sick of this s~~~ and hit the eject button, parachute deployed, thank god I am alive, I landed, I am free. We have one child and I am on the hook for child support, but that’s life. Nine more years to go!
At this point I am 35, and very depressed. Almost self hating, just freaking miserable. Questioning myself, dude you are so f~~~ed up, you must be, the way my own mother, wife, and every single girlfriend has treated you, I wished I was a ‘real man’. I could not deal with all this emptiness and pain, and I started self medicating with alcohol. Twelve beers every night with a few fireball shots, every single night. I needed to find a new girlfriend ASAP and it was my primary focus. Only, I am kinda of a nice guy and we all know what happens to ‘nice guys’. The need for female acceptance is how I valued myself, and without it, I felt, well worthless.
Discovering MGTOW, Christmas 2014 was the day I found myself. My real self! I watched every video I could find, it was a Pandora’s box of knowledge, and after two weeks it penetrated my subconsciousness like a trident missile penetrating the air after being launched from a sub marine. Houston this is Testicles, we have clarity, I repeat we have clarity! My drinking naturally started curbing back on its own, now I go to bed with out drinking at all, and I can have just a couple beers. I dominate females with my masculinity now, wow! Anyone that has not quite there yet, these woman have a sixth sense and can smell mangina syndrome from across the room.
My future is level 2 MGTOW, no relationships, just f~~~ and chuck. I have fired my mother from my life. Mother after all these years your behavior continues, and you will not take any responsibility for your actions, you have no remorse. In a Donald Trump kind of way, YOUR FIRED! Life is great! I am writing to you in from my home in the rain forest of the pacific northwest, where I am living in a 35 foot trailer, and have a small cabin on my 3/4 of an acre I purchased for cash. I can not thank this movement enough, It is more of a philosophy than a movement, but I for one will never look back, and feel like my life has just started. One more thing, I know my grammer sucks I never finished 10th grade.
Thank you for the forum
Rich_Paul