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Vector:
You had me really going there guy. Your whole attitude in your writing has changed dramatically and for the better I may add. You sound way more like an Alpha. In fact you may have to soften that a wee bit. But it is sure an improvement over how you expressed yourself in your first blogs. There isn’t a single guy on MGTOW that isn’t pumping the air for you. I also saw your blogs on Apartments / Rentals / Condos / Homes. Appears very much like you have a real focus (a real male trait that is a female magnet). I can tell you at your age and your new attitude you are going to start attracting a lot of pussy. Be selective. Tell them right away you aint marriageable material. They won’t believe it. They’ll try even harder. If Single MILFS start hitting on you, screw your brains out and kick them to the curb.
Once you get your own place, don’t ever let them move in for more than 6 months. In some jurisdictions that constitutes Common Law marriage, and you are on the hook for everything you have worked for. Six months is long enough to get a heaping pile of great sex, then it starts to get crappy. Six months is long enough to see the faults and the reasons to pull the plug.
Your ex is probably hitting the wall, and running out of time. She’ll be panicking. She’s going to have to settle for quite a bit less if she still wants to own somebody. My ex at 39 never found anything after me and she remains a frustrated single. They have to fill their lives with a stable full of girlfriends; their big deal is travel and they have to find a girlfriend to do that with, and they seldom get invited to functions where couples are invited. Well that’s her problem, not yours.
This has been a great result all round.
Congrats Vector on your new freedom. And welcome to the greatest lifestyle ever. I wish I had found this path at your age.
Keep doing what you’re doing. Keep reading and paying attention to the benefits of MGTOW if you feel yourself get wistful for relationships. Listening to Tom Leykis is a great practice. Reading about the relations~~~s and messes that men find themselves in here.
My brother was engaged in a similar situation to yours. As he got closer to a wedding his fiance – who I always thought was nice, albeit a bit needy and naive – began thinking she had his name on the dotted line, so she began to show more and more red flags much like the “I will rule you” vein. My brother – who owned his own home in his early 20s, saves money like noone I know, and is extremely financially responsible – was told by her that he would begin handing over his paycheck to her, and she would decide how the money was spent. Note that this bitch still lived in her parents house, hadn’t lived on her own ever, save for a brief stint in the Peace Corps she didn’t finish, and so hadn’t proven she could live independently at all. My brother began to wonder a bit…. Further, she insisted that she and my brother move into the same house as her parents to “save money” which would also mean that the drama and debts of her deadbeat older brother would become part of my brother’s new marriage. My brother protested, saying “I don’t want to live with your parents. Do you want my mom to move in with us?” To which she replied, “Of course not, but my parents are different.” Obviously, she was interested only in her needs…..and so my brother began to wonder some more. They went to premarital counseling a couple months before the wedding, where she revealed that she “knew better about how a relations~~~ should work than my brother, after all he’s a man.” My brother started getting very anxious with a wedding date looming, guests planning to visit from out of town, etc. He lost a lot of weight, began seeing the mess awaiting him and yet felt guilty to run thinking marriage was somehow a noble thing. A couple weeks before the wedding he told her in counseling that they needed to postpone to work out some of these plans she had for him. She was not happy about it but agreed…or appeared to agree. Within a few days, she was already dating another guy – mind you my brother only postponed the planned nuptials hoping they could work things out because, at the time, he thought he still wanted to marry her, and yet….. Once she told him she was seeing this other guy – probably trying to spark jealousy thinking my brother would capitulate in fear of losing her – POS that she is – my brother said “Adios!” The drama ensued, much like you’ve seen: attempts at guilt, claims she would change, etc. However, her last card played proved to my brother that she was nothing but a dragon ready to chew him up and spit him up out only to meet her needs. She only wanted his resources.
It doesn’t sound like you’re having too rough a time, and that’s great. I hope that continues. My brother really wrestled with his decision for a while. But the bitch occasionally would try to contact him, even though she married some fool soon after their wedding cancellation. He never really understood why. She’d try to mention some new house she bought, to which my brother said “I don’t care. I owned a house long before I dated you.” She’d mention she and her hubby moved to a new city, to which my brother told her, “How about I call your husband and tell him you’re still contacting me?” And finally, the last time she tried he told her: “Pretend I’m dead, and never contact me again.” He didn’t try to contact her. For some reason she couldn’t get him out of her head, and perhaps in her unhappy marriage she thought my brother was the one who got away. Your bitch may as well, and if she does remember the “I rule you” comment, and her manipulation, and her riding of 1,000 c~~~s – some of which she probably rode while on all these business trips.
If she tries to get with you again. Always remember the she, like my brother’s ex fiance’ is a self-centered, manipulative, and likely cheating whore who wants to control you. And stay MGTOW.
@robert Hallum said, “Once you get your own place, don’t ever let them move in for more than 6 months.”
Robert I’m compelled to speak up here regarding danger for ANY young male today. This includes Vector, who had a close call.
IMO, never let them move in-once in, how the eff can you get them out, ref Charlie Sheen’s pays hookers .. to leave.
Six months?? the whole camel is in the tent.
No move in, no key.
See her at her place, see her somewhere else, it’s cheaper to do Anything but let her move in.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
This thread rocks! Seeing a man take back his freedom and stand up for himself. I cannot imagine leaving this community
I definitely agree with experienced on women moving in. Never have. Never will. Women want to earn like men, but they want men to pay for everything. Most women will pay their own bills…until they find a man to do that for them. A man’s best bet is to let her live in her own place, pay her own bills, and then when she gets sick of you or you get sick of her both of you can go to your own place, and noone – especially her – walks away with anything you have.
Vector,
No time to write my usual wall of text, but very happy to see you seem to be on your way to a successful escape plan. You may not realize it, but you were/are a prize target… positioned directly in the cross hairs, bullet in the chamber, finger on the trigger… and you slipped away. Very close call buddy. Very close.As you move on from this, keep in mind that while you may not think of yourself on inflated terms or have an ego about yourself, you are still a prized target for women like your exgf. You got earning potential, status potential and all with no baggage or prior wife or kid. This means that the next one, and the ones subsequent to her, will be brining their very best game to the table when they target you. They may not be as careless as this last one. You have to compensate for that by being more careful than you were.
Congrats on the successful escape. Stopping a wrong wedding feels as good as preventing a funeral… 😀
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Anonymous2My advise as a divorced dad, who was cheated on big time during a sexless marriage, but, still lost half my assets in a divorce is never marry – there is absolutely *no* benefit to it for the man, it hands the upper hand totally to the woman, and it will be used against you in court when she gets bored with marriage. Thank feminism. Especially with no-fault divorce: she cheats, you will lose assets big time, maybe access to your own kids if you have them. She’ll threaten to *ss rape you in father-unfriendly family court, and it won’t be a bluff. Kick her to the curb now. I get way more sex now, I’m 49 and I’m hitting 20 something hotties all the time, but, I won’t marry, get them pregnant, or even cut a key to my house for them. DTB if she insists on anything like that, plenty more available especially with online dating…lots put out on the first date, and I often insist they pay or split the cost of a date. It’s all about equality, so they can suck it up…
Anonymous2I definitely agree with experienced on women moving in. Never have. Never will. Women want to earn like men, but they want men to pay for everything. Most women will pay their own bills…until they find a man to do that for them. A man’s best bet is to let her live in her own place, pay her own bills, and then when she gets sick of you or you get sick of her both of you can go to your own place, and noone – especially her – walks away with anything you have.
Just wanted to add this is my exact strategy. Really great post by DarthW. I agree 100%, plus you can easily hook up with multiple women and always have some nightly this way. If she withholds, just kick her to the curb, and you’ll still have others.
Anonymous9DJ, I took “half” of the money out of the account, my portion of the money. The rest is her money. I can easily pack up her stuff, however I don’t want to further escalate anger and the possibility of another fight breaking out. I want to brake from her cleanly, neutrally, with as little tension as possible. She even told me “just go and live ur life, u haven’t missed me just fighting me and u have made some moves so I think ur fine without me u don’t need me” she also said… “i almost feel like going straight to ur house to get my stuff and go b/c I feel i’ll never be happy with you after all this”… and also “thanks for just making me feel awful and ruining this trip for me, we are not gonna be ok, and we will part ways and never talk again, this is just another disaster in my life I can add on to the pile and again I get s~~~ted on, it’s cool, i’m so numb I won’t allow it to hurt me.” You see, she’s 30 years old. In her 20’s she was a typical party chick who would travel to FL, Cancun, the Carribean ect to all the party destinations. She’s a typical club chick that gets dressed up and all dolled up to dance and get drunk. I could just imagine her past sex life. She also dated the “bad boys” in her 20’s, drug addicts, jail celled, her last bf was abusive and would hit her. It took her to get punched in the face and a bleeding nose for her to finally brake it off, not to mention an abortion. And she had the audacity to say that “we had sexual chemistry.” This “bad boy” probably would f~~~ her brains out and beat her up, but she kept going back for more. That s~~~ p~~~es me the f~~~ off so much. It seems like EVERY SINGLE chick I’ve ever been with dated the “bad boy” that treated her like s~~~, but they couldn’t get enough. Probably they were hooked on the sex, which is why they always kept going back. Now she finds a guy like me; early 30’s, good job, stable, responsible, there for her etc.. and she completely s~~~s on me over and over again, trying to beta me into commitment, marriage and kids. This is another reason why I’m braking up with her. They f~~~ the bad boys in their youth, then when they realize their clock is ticking, they try and find a good man to settle down with. I ain’t falling for that s~~~. I ain’t going to be their tampon buying, purse holding little beta bitch, who will be forced into the “man cave” basement while she decorates the whole house that I’m putting my hard earned money into, who will jump when they say jump, f~~~ that s~~~. Going my own way bitch, and getting revenge for all sloppy seconds I got from all the bad boy loving bitches that I had in the past. In the beginning, I thought she was perfect for me. I felt that by my age all the women already had kids and were married, so when I found a woman with no kids, good job, seemed to be intelligent, gave me great sex and blowjobs on the regular, I got suckered in, and decided to have her move into my place, open a joint account, and save for a house together. Bad move. I’m just glad I took the red pill early enough before f~~~ing up my life. Now, I’m single, no kids, good job, in decent shape, new car, musician, and going my own way in life. It’s so true how hard it was to get young pussy in my 20’s. I guess b/c I never hit women or treated them like s~~~. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had my shares of plenty of pussy in my day, but got turned down by plenty also. Now that I’m single again, I’m going to get revenge like Jason Voorhees and bang 19-21 year olds, treat them like s~~~, and kick them to the curb for the bitches they are.
Hell yeah man…
I’m of the same mindset now, and I’ve been like this since 2010.
Don’t be a sucker to women. I carry myself with my head high now, and in my walk you can tell I don’t give a f~~~. It’s the confidence that we ooze once we’ve refused to put up with the bulls~~~.
yo, vector..you should be very thankful to all these mgtow men who took the time to help school you…pay it forward now..help others like you got helped..you escaped a real c~~~… i kicked many bitches to the curb,literally. get used to being the one in control !
p.s. vector, no offence, but you must know your mom is a real piece of s~~~.. just sayin bro, just sayin….
Good to read another fairy tale ending…
By that I mean… pack your s~~~, or pack her s~~~… and be gone!
I want to make a MGTOW video acting out a scene from 300..
THIS…..IS….MGTOW!
And then dozens of money grabbing sluts get booted into a pit full of of beta white knights.
Marriage? No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.
First post here, gents. Discovered this site just yesterday, and have read a ton of it since then. You can get what my nickname means – have been living this lifestyle for 20 years simply because it made sense and I learned hard and fast.
First – Vector, congrats on seeing the light and following it out of the cave of hell that long-termish relations~~~s are these days. She’ll f~~~ing contact you, trust me, at which point my advice is to bust a nut on her face and be done with it. Just be sure to chuck a towel in her face for her to wipe it up with, and put that rag in a sink full of hot water so she doesn’t spermjack your ass and f~~~ you over.
Second, as for live-ins … NEVER ever do this. Don’t even give a woman the keys to your place for a moment. Have a friend – his GF had the keys to his place but didn’t live there – they broke up (he got his keys back) and 2 weeks later she used a copy of the keys to go into his house and clean it out of s~~~ of his that she wanted. Am not talking stuff she bought him – am talking family heirlooms of his family’s. You try and get that s~~~ back – the courts will tell your male ass to GTFO and deal with it.
Joint accounts? That s~~~ is nuts, but here’s my quick story. Was married young from 1991 to early 95. Naturally had a joint account – dumb as f~~~ move but one thing about it did come in handy. I never did specifically monitor the inflow/outflow thing because I trusted her (another dumb move), but in late 94 when I caught her f~~~ing some dude, knowing what was coming up I quickly went to a spreadsheet and did the math breaking out the expenses and incomes. Turns out she was f~~~ing running very negative, and I was running very positive, despite having roughly similar incomes. I kept this info under wraps but knew I had to get the divorce out of the f~~~ing way ASAP before she figured this out, and did so. After that, I was banking money aside in a shoebox like a SOB whereas she moved near the beach to f~~~ her beau. I knew that was trouble because she was negative even without paying a rent (I put that in my column knowing I’d have to pay my own soon). That 90 day waiting period came and went, I felt relieved enough to start putting a bit money in the bank but kept putting a ton in the shoebox for another year. She filed bankruptcy 6 months later, but nothing ever came back my way so perhaps I was lucky, but it was great to see her in the s~~~ter and her new beau kick her broke ass to the curb.
From that experience, I learned there is no f~~~ing way you let a woman or the f~~~ing law get their hooks in your ass. You don’t throw dice on a game table where you are guaranteed to lose. I see and hear the miserable f~~~ing married losers at the office bitch about their marital entrapment and in a sick way I thank my ex for being a bitch so early on that I escaped mostly unharmed and am not in the hellish prison those saps are in. The single women at the office actually despise me because I’m considered very “marriageable material” (s~~~load of cash, good humor, fit and decent looking) that won’t give them the time of day and who doesn’t play their bulls~~~ games, and am happy not to. That’s the bright future that awaits any MGTOW who takes the advice, the mentality, and the lifestyle to heart and makes himself a better person for it.
With MGTOW you’ll be doing what the f~~~ you want with your life and when you f~~~ing want to do it. That is f~~~ing freedom, gents, and that is what we all are here for.
If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.
Anonymous42@95, I’m a 92, that’s when I was awoken to all the bulls~~~, we’re on the same page! the only difference is I never married, I pushed that idea out the door, I knew it was detrimental to my well being. It was the best decision I ever made! My life has been full of personal satisfaction, and memories of places and times I will never forget or regret! MGTOW is a man’s best friend, next to his dog. Your arrow of truth is in the yellow circle! Some men(blue pill) are still shooting straight up, and wondering why they keep getting arrows stuck in their heads! Welcome to MGTOW!
Congrats Vector. I followed your story and am very proud of you.
Let go of that servitude mentality though, that is the feminists mentality and as MGTOW, we are above feminists and those types of people and do not want to appear as we are stooping to their level. It won’t do you any good in the long run.
Still very proud of you man! I was afraid there for a little bit but you did a great job.
Glad to hear you are getting out of her range….Remember women don’t give up easy…Don’t even think about one last time! Find it somewhere else, and let her know she has no control over your sexual choices…When you move on she will get the message….
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
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And here I thought I was unusual having done this thing since 1998. I’m somehow relieved that I was wrong about that.
Back on topic, I sure do hope things are OK with Vector. This was one of the main threads I followed while I was lurking, and over the weeks I’ve thought about him and his situation a few times. Hopefully he comes back soon.
Bro, you are getting out at a great time. F~~~ being her or any other woman’s slave or f~~~ing puppet. You’ll never look back and regret the moment you realized she’s just another chick trying to bring down the man.
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