Marriage, Mortgage, Kids…f~~~ that s~~~

[VectorParticipant 178]

What up fellas?!  I’m writing to you from my brand new apartment.  I found a really nice place in a great neighborhood 10 minutes from my job.  I furnished it, set everything up, and now I’m chillin on my sofa on this beautiful Memorial day afternoon off from work, sitting here in peace and quiet doing what I want to do when I want to, and basking in the greatness of not having to answer to anyone!

My ex has been contacting me, but being really bitchy, I could tell she wants me back, but I’m not buying into the bulls~~~.  As Brian Pilot said, I will be presented with resistance, and I have been.  I’m on dating sites right now trying to find me some pussy, but mainly working on evolving myself.  I’ve been out of the game for a long time, and it seems pretty damm hard to get girls to respond to you, they all want a relationship and say they don’t want booty calls, and if you’re interested in only sex, than don’t contact them they all say in their profile.  For every 10 emails, i’ll get 1 in return, and after a few messages, they end up disappearing.  Online dating is a lot of hard work.  I think it’s better to just approach women, however, online dating is convenient.  I got a # from this HOT chick at the mall, texted her a few times back and forth and she disappeared as well.  I guess this is the reality of being single, and I’m NOT being the nice guy either!  Before my ex, I remember it like it was yesterday, going on plenty of dates, finding garbage out there.  Wishing and hoping for a girl, a relationship, somebody to build with.  Feeling frustrated on getting turned down, dealing with flaky women, flaky behaviors etc.  As a man, we want to naturally f~~~ as many as we can, but it ain’t easy!  Even though you guys say I’m at my prime age, good looking, tall, in shape, single, no kids, my own place, good job, new car etc….it’s still very hard!  I can imagine what it’s like for guys who don’t have that status, and what they are going through!  I’m sure this is just my frustration talking, and in due time I will be good again.  I seem to be longing for a woman.  It’s been a long time since I got laid, and jerking off just doesn’t cut it anymore.  Watching MGTOW videos on how you should just focus on yourself and forget about women is really hard to do.  It goes against our natural male urges.  I guess i’m just feeling this way b/c I have no pussy right now.  Once I get a decent bull pen in line, and get back in the game, I’ll be a lot more content.  This time around, no relationships, just fun.  If they don’t like it, they can get the f~~~ out!

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

This is the best thing on the internet today.  I’ve been waiting for this post for weeks now.  Vector, if there was a trophy, this post would get it.  Think about the experiences you are having now with women (never happy, always complaining, nothing is ever good enough, permanently hypergamous …etc).  These are the issues that essentially all men have with essentially all women right now.  They can still think whatever they want about you, but they can’t punish you, parasitize you or otherwise ‘rule you’ while believing those things.  Your ex, for example (I can refer to her as “your ex” now that she is…) believes all this about you, yet she is resisting your exit as hard as she can.

Q: If you are so flawed, why the resistance to your exit?

A: Because she fully expected to be able to benefit from the narrative that you were flawed, and she does not yet have another target victim lined up to replace what she intended to take from you.  As soon as she does, she will disappear from your life willingly and forever.  Just give it time.

There are still plenty of women like her out there waiting for you (really all of them are like her), and there’s nothing that says you can’t interact with, date, or have sex with them all you want (for as long as you think it’s worth the effort).  Just do not allow them to manipulate you into a position (marriage/cohabitation) where they can use the state to forcibly take from you all the things they already believe you owe them.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[kizellParticipant 368]

Well done Vector.  You have succeeded where I failed, although I have no kids, 32 years old, and been given a second chance at life.    I still have to deal with mortgage post divorce.  So from another male friend, let me congratulate you for finding that inner wisdom that makes you a strong man.  Strong, proud men do not need parasites.

But a little advice.  Don’t be in a hurry to get laid.  Just focus on yourself for a while.  You are entering a very happy and powerful chapter in your life.  No need to let other women distract your vision.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

The thing with getting laid, is its like breaking an addiction.  If you get used to it for a while, and then it stops…its like NOOOOO MUST GET PUSSY.  If you go a while without it, its just like meh, I’ll get it when I get it, its nice but its not worth putting a lot of effort into actively seeking.

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Hello Vector:

Glad to hear your voice again.  Good to get the update.  It must be fun stonewalling the ex.  What a power trip.  I’m no fan of dating sites.  Most guys will tell you that they are really a waste of time.  Get a buddy (preferably one that will fall on a grenade for you) and start visiting the bars/clubs. You are not looking for marriageable material.  Your looking for pussy.   Don’t go until at least after 10:30 pm, mostly weekend nights.  Just have one or two drinks.  Play pool or commiserate with guys.  Ignore the women (this is very important).  Give off the appearance of being in fully in control, confident, well dressed (better dressed than the average guy there – almost like you just finished taking off your tie), un-needy, having a good time, happy being single.  Sort of like you own the place.  If you are new to the pub it will take a couple of weeks, but the females, who don’t arrive until at least 10:00 to make a grand entrance, are carefully checking out everything.  They will make the move when they see you are so disinterested that they know you won’t make the move first.  They will find a way, but they will make it look like its your idea.

[Anonymous 42]

I plan on kicking HER out.

@batcave, that’s great news! You’ll be able to expand the batcave to include the rest of the cavern! As soon as you rent a dumpster and buy a whole bunch of cave paint, you’ll be on the verge of living MGTOW LARGE!

Welcome to “my life”! It’s f~~~ing awesome having my own mini farm, welding and restoration shop, and heated antique and parts storage facility WITHIN MY DOMAIN! Theirs no possible way I could allow the insanity of a relations~~~ befall on me! A relations~~~ under this new paradigm of a man being evicted from his own home (immediately upon the bequest of a miffed woman) is not an environment conducive to MGTOW, manginas can have that honor.

[experiencedParticipant]

Vector, your own place! Congratulations! Please be careful.

His own place – great!

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Executor MaxwellParticipant 591]

Vector wrote:

What up fellas?!  I’m writing to you from my brand new apartment.  I found a really nice place in a great neighborhood 10 minutes from my job.  I furnished it, set everything up, and now I’m chillin on my sofa on this beautiful Memorial day afternoon off from work, sitting here in peace and quiet doing what I want to do when I want to, and basking in the greatness of not having to answer to anyone!

Hallelujah another soul saved =) was waiting for the confirmation of your freedom achievement. Time to crack open the champagne.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Tremendous News Vector! Very nicely done! And happy for you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Congrats Vector, cracking a beer and raising it as a toast to your freedom, Cheers!

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[ThomasQuinnParticipant 50]

Congrats Vector on being free from her bulls~~~.

In regards to online dating, 10 to 1 seems to be about the normal ratio so I wouldnt be too worried about that. Just send out more emails. After being out of the dating game for 10+ years it really is pretty crazy at how these online females claim 1 thing on their profile and yet are the opposite once you get their phone number and start texting them etc. One girl talked about jesus in her profile And I figured. wtf. I will send her a message just for the hell of it…. and she ended up sexting me 48hrs after first contact… go figure.

 

 

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Cinderella’s castle… Holy crap!  I’ve been to disneyworld a couple of times.  I have pictures of that place in my vacation pics.  Everyone calls it Cinderella’s Castle!  But you are correct.  Cinderella is a peasant girl with 3 evil bitches for step sisters.  How the hell is that HER castle???!!!

As red pill as I think I am, I still find myself being  surprised by things like this that have been right in front of me the whole time without me ever realizing it for the lie that it is.  Like all kids, I learned the story of Cinderella.  And I’ve always referred to that building as Cinderella’s castle. But I don’t think I could tell you then name of the prince in that story.  Hell, I think even the three step-bitches got to have named parts in that story.  But the prince was never mentioned by name anywhere in the story was he?

I’d like to write my own version of that story…

 

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[narwhalParticipant]

In the movie, “Into the Woods” they actually do warp the story a bit.  Cinderella actually actively avoids getting found by the prince because she’s not sure she wants to be the princess.   Meanwhile, the step sisters are literally cutting their toes off to fit into the slipper, they want it so bad.  Once Cinderella finally gets caught, it’s kind of ho hum.  Cinderella wanders off and gets involved in a different story line.  She doesn’t get or even go for the castle.    The prince meets another damsel in distress and starts getting with her , even though she’s a married woman.    Surprisingly, they don’t paint him as a bad guy for this, but the wife gets dinged a bit for betraying her husband.

Ok. Then do it.

[avillaxParticipant 280]

Hey Vector, I know you’re experiencing a moment of weakness right now, don’t fall for the same mistake again. As you know, a woman can get any man any time, even the ugly fat ones have fans, so the fact that your ex wants you back means that she’s aiming for the wedding and all the privileges she will obtain for that. She can easily get another guy but it would take her at least 2 years or relationship to convince him to marry her and it could also go wrong that’s why she’s aiming at you. Bitches are never on the rush for sex as they don’t like sex.

As for you, I suggest you find another way to fulfill your sexual urges. I’m similar to you, I’m also a good looking guy and I did the math:

With lots of effort, going out to clubs twice a week and approaching a lot of girls it takes me on average 9 months to get a girlfriend. If I don’t put too much effort into it it takes me about 2 years.

I last on average 3 months per girlfriend, on those 3 months there’s sex at the beginning and then the bitch turns into a monster, on average I’m having sex with a girlfriend 8 times.

So that’s a lot of waiting, lots of effort, lots of money, lots of frustration and rejection for only 8 sex sessions, it wasn’t worth it.

I’m thinking right now on solving the problem by renting prostitutes once or twice per month, masturbating or buying sex toys, you can get used to it and totally substitute a woman.

There are some quality prostitutes that are hot and safe, you just need to find them. Here in Czech Republic for $100 they even let you play with their pussies and come in their faces and I’m talking about model-like quality.

 

Alternatively you can play with your girlfriend and promise things you will never fulfill such as wedding, just have to be extra careful of always using condoms and not falling for her mind traps and not living together anymore. It is risky though, you know what she wants in the end.

 

[Dcue95Participant 78]

Grats Vector! It’s always good to see people dodge frightful situations

[BeeParticipant 700]

Vector, our situations are similar but different. Like you, my SO went out of town for a while. She went to her home country, the Philippines for five weeks. During her trip, I felt relief, not longing. I felt relief at not having to deal with her mood swings, being independent, not having to do the things she wants or sit around and do nothing if that is what she wants. Our contact was minimal. The time zone in the PI is the opposite, half the places she went had spotty cell service or no internet. The few times we did talk it was so she could ask for money. She blew through $900 in about a week (in a country where most people earn $3-5 a day). Even my daughter was relieved that her Mom was gone. You see, she’s not really into parenting. Her interaction with our daughter is mostly yelling at her and the discipline style borders on abuse.

You guessed it, I’m married almost 13 years. My life consists of working, being a parent, taking care of the house, and doing whatever my wife wants. Most of my friends are married and I see them about 2-3 times a year. I look back to the time that I was single and independent as the best time of my life and wonder what happened. I made half the money I do now but my expenses were so much lower I could live on half of my salary. I lived in an apartment which was fantastic because I spent zero time or money on household maintenance. Cleaning could be done in an hour a week.  I had the time and money to do whatever I wished.

I could go back to that lifestyle, but it would cost me everything. I’d probably give up my relationship with my daughter and the combined child support and alimony would be about $1,700 per month. Between that and the income tax increase, I would be living on half my pay again but not by choice. I have come to realize that I will be punished for excelling in my career by one of two outcomes – either the family overhead will absorb any increases in pay or if we split up each extra dollar of compensation is worth one third – one third for her, one third in taxes and one third for me.

Most of my friends are married. Some are already divorced. A few have never been married. They’re the real winners. They made it through their gotta have it 20’s and should settle down 30’s and now they see the system for what it really is. So do I. Women look for three things in men – attractive, status, money. If you’re really attractive, you’re in. If you’re average or below (they think most of us are below average) it really is all about money. They’ll lure you in with the promise of cooking, cleaning and sex but you’ll find out about 5 years into the marriage that they aren’t into those things at all. A lot seem to be very interested in babies, but not really that interested in children and parenting. Houses and children are just ways for the system to profit off you.

There was a time when marriage made sense, maybe even 100 years ago. Dad, Mom and the children worked as a team ensuring the team’s survival. Today, both liberal feminism and conservative corporate profiteering have each done their part to ruin marriage.

You did the right thing for the right reasons. Stay single. Be independent. If you need sex you can either date or just pay by the hour. In my case, I’d just pay by the hour because it seems to cost the same monetarily but frees up your most precious resource – time.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Congrats Vector! I’m happy to hear that you got free and clear.

If she is still calling/texting you, my advice: change your cell number. It can be an inconvenience to change your number, but the goal is to cut off all ties and move on. Changing your number will help with this goal.

[Anonymous 18]

Victor, congratulations man! Dodged a bullet.

I agree with treating pussy like an addiction. I would even go as far as to think of the predicament (your married life with your ex) in all its butt-f~~~ misery and equating it with the male desire for pussy.

I am not sure if its achievable but to me MGTOW means finding life’s goals whether hobbies, career, harnessing one’s talent, etc that a man can derive some pleasure, if not more, than just relying on sex. No sex is free in a feminazi world. Us men have imagination that 99% of women don’t. Pussy is an anti-christ to this creative power with all the hurdles an average Joe needs to jump to dip it for momentarily pleasure. May be I am just too optimistic.

Hope you don’t give in to her manipulation and I am sure she will try even if intermittently. It’s hard to detach from a person you once cared for, don’t let that caring be a cause of a moment’s weakness.

Good luck brother!

[PoeMoneymakerParticipant 3]

I can’t believe I read this whole thread…glad this f~~~ing beta grew some b~~~~.

 

 

-Sound advice gentlemen

[Obey Your MasterParticipant 7]

Epic read – What a thread to introduce someone to the forum.

Vector – well done bro – I’m proud of you!

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