Marriage, Mortgage, Kids…f~~~ that s~~~

[Anonymous 5]

Anonymous wrote:

@ Mr. Hallam, I know a guy that’s 68 and still banging 18yr olds. Your advise and demeanor are some of the best I ever read, your wisdom is commendable! You get my full undivided attention on your future posts. I’ve always consumed the advice of my (key word-“wise”) elders. When I was 11 yrs old I worked with a man that was your age (Mr Tobin), I learned things from him that have become a lost art.

I’ll be paying attention too.
God knows how many times people have tried to “Help” you by telling you to get a “Good Woman” and settle down,,,,,hahahaha
Kudos to you for withstanding peer pressure and going your own way long before the internet.

Forums, chatrooms and social media inadvertently gave us an insight into how women really talked about men,,,,,every day of their lives! It’s like watching real reality shows where the contestants forget there’s people (males) watching everything,,,,,every day!
Not only that, the unprecedented rise in numbers and conglomerations of women’s “Friends” groups with social media and the accompanying rise in exchange of radical ideas on male exploitation and their debasing male humour have left a younger generation of males growing up under no illusion of what they’re really dealing with after observing the same behaviour every day of their lives.

Older guys like myself always sort of knew what women were like,,,,,,,,,,,uuuhhhmmmmmmm NO!,,, as we found out on the net,,,,,, we didn’t really!
We always assumed it was just the bitches in our family,,,, but all other women were good and caring.
it was just the bitches we had in our primary school,,,, but all other women were good and caring,
It was just the bitches in our high school,,,, but all other women were good and caring,
It was just the bitches in our neighborhood,,,, but all other women were good and caring.
it was just the bitches we and our friends hooked up with and married,,,, but all other women were good and caring,
it was just the bitches at the places we worked,,,, but all other women were good and caring.
The net and the behaviour of all women’s groups we observed first hand, slammed the idea of “all other women were good and caring,” permanently into the Recycle Bin.
Even the most average females turn into dictatorial plantation owners long before they even have a slave.
Read any profile on any dating site for the list of expectations and demands, lol,,and in the case of single mothers,,,where you’ll be put in the food chain as well (the very bottom)
All these delusional expectations and demands are worked out by women throwing ideas around in women’s friends groups, including and especially the net,,,,where we’re watching!!!!!!!
They can get on T.V. and in newspapers and spout as much nonsense as they like about the angelic and victimised female, but one only has to go straight back to social media to see how they’re really carrying on.

The games up for females.
We’ll play their cutesy cupcake games, if they’re cute enough, for as long as they want to play it.
But not any of the other games. Especially the “I sign over half of all my stuff and give you legal entitlement to 50-75% of my income and future income, even if you no-fault divorce me” game,,,,no thanks,,,find someone else to nag and shame
or in the case of this thread,,,rule,,,hahaha
,,,,,,,,,,,,next

EDIT: I don’t even play the cutesy cupcake game anymore. Take your own journey and find out why.

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

<p class=”MsoNormal”>OK Guys THIS IS REAL IMPORTANT STUFF.  COULD SAVE YOU MILLIONS IN DIVORCE.</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>PEOPLE SAY THEY LIKE MY POSTS, AND YOU’RE GOING TO LIKE THIS ONE</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>When it comes to cheating men are oblivious and women are concealing.   When it comes to getting caught women are snoopy and men are careless.  So it is little wonder that even though women cheat on men just as much as men cheat on women, it’s the women in the majority of cases that come up with the evidence and file for divorce first.  But when a wife or girlfriend cheats, it’s generally her spouse that is the last to know.   Guys, you have to get the evidence first.  Here are a few tips.</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”><b>Communication Devices</b></p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>Snooping on your partner is a sign of insecurity and lack of trust.  We don’t want snooping.  If a relationship is based on trust a husband/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend should have no objection to her partner having full access to their spouse’s cell phone, text messages, e-mail accounts, photos, user names, contact list, and passwords, etc.  Having a casual or occasional look at your spouse’s day-to-day communications isn’t snooping but keeping abreast of what’s going on in their lives.  But if one of the partners won’t let you borrow their phone, keeps it locked all the time, hides the screen when messages arrive, deletes all their messages and e-mails, turns it off after looking at who’s calling, or walks away to talk, then he/she has something to hide.</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>Women are the communicators, and a cell phone is her life line.  If she’s having an affair she’s constantly thinking how do I keep him interested while I’m with my husband, keeping him away from someone more available, or letting him know ways they can get together?  That’s when the sexting starts.  She’ll use very graphic messages and pictures to keep him expecting more.  She can’t keep him wanting her more with texts like “Are we supposed to be working late on Friday”?    To keep the partners level of anticipation up and to make sure he gets the message there’s more and better to come, she’s got to write sexts like “I can’t wait ‘till I can wrap my lips around you dick again.”</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>Women who are cheating are running a balancing act.  They don’t want to lose the husband, and father of the kids, until they are absolutely sure the new guy is going to step up.  And they don’t want to lose the new guy until they figure out how to get rid of the husband.  So if your spouse displays any of the behaviour described above, or you flat out expect she’s having an affair, there is plenty of technology in the form of a simple inexpensive app, that you can load on to a cell phone that will allow your cell phone to see what messages are being exchanged in real time, and can recover text messages even when deleted.</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”><b>Surveillance Devices</b></p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>Invariably a woman cheats with someone she already knows; a family member like a brother-in-law, a co-worker, or a boss, or an ex.  You will probably have already met him.  The list is generally limited.  But sooner or later she’s going to want or find a way to hook up.  Even teenage girls are adept at escaping through a window.  The problem is you don’t know when or where, and on top of that, you’ve got to go to work or go out of town.  When it comes to where, it could be his place, a hotel, or your home, and even in the car.  But don’t let this deter you.  The technology is available to give you real time feedback on where she is, using the GPS function of her cell phone or a tracking device installed on her car.  These technologies work even when the car is parked or the cell phone is off.  If she’s meeting someone somewhere other than your home, it shouldn’t take you long to figure it out.  If your home is the rendezvous, you’ll need just one or two miniaturized nanny-cams or pin-hole cameras that are triggered by a motion detector and strategically placed.  She’s going to be getting ready for his arrival, and she’s going to want a comfortable place to screw.</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”><b>Paternity Testing Devices</b></p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>Paternity testing covers two different scenarios.  The first is she’s claiming that she’s pregnant and accusing you of being the biological father.  The second is that you are not the biological father of the children you are supporting or being ordered by the courts to support.</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>We’ve all seen cases without resorting to watching Jerry Springer, where a woman is pressuring a partner to marry, or pony up, because of an unexpected pregnancy.  In many cases the actual date of inception, if not also the biological partner, is in question.  Every man wants and has a right to know if an expected child is his or not.  In these cases the man is entitled to see the results of a pregnancy test (and I don’t mean a stick you pee on) and an ultrasound.  If she’s pregnant, then the expectant father is entitled to have an approximate date of inception and date of delivery.  Once the baby arrives, he is entitled to ask for a DNA test for paternity before his name is placed on the child’s Birth Certificate.  A test sample of the mother is not required.  If the mother refuses to allow a sample of the baby’s blood or saliva to be taken once it is born, then you can be absolutely sure the baby’s biological father is someone else less reliable.</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>With respect to the second issue during a divorce, it is simply a matter of determining which children of a partnership are the biological offspring of the supposed father.   At the request of appellants, some Courts are now granting father’s requests for paternity testing before awarding child support.  Up until just recently, the cost of having a paternity test has been prohibitive.   But with PCR, DNA analyses has become very inexpensive.  Laboratories usually ask for blood samples, because of the accuracy needed.</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”>In the 70’s it was well known fact in medical circles and advanced blood testing that between 10% and 15% of children were being raised by men other than the biological fathers.  That number has gone up with the testing of additional blood factors to around about 15% to 20%.  That of course includes groups such as adopted children, but it is surprisingly high.  While it has always been commonly believed that men cheat more often than women, the question has always been who are these men cheating with? New evidence suggests that women actually cheat just as much as men but men are more likely to be caught.  With the new technology that is going to change.</p>
<p class=”MsoNormal”><b>Infidelity DNA Testing</b></p>
 
<p class=”MsoNormal”>With the number of genetic laboratories springing up across the country, we have seen a large number offering DNA testing for forensic, paternity, relationship, immigration, and ancestry purposes.   They are also now fully capable of <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>infidelity</span> testing using blood, semen, saliva and stains on underwear (panties), sheets and clothing.  Bill Clinton will remember the little blue dress.  Their services are <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>confidential</span> and inexpensive.  A paternity test for example costs about $250 and a test for presence of the male XY chromosome is just $100.   Laboratories provide test kits and instructions on collecting samples, freezing clothing, and submitting samples.</p>

[Mann FugaSpectator 77]

The single most misandric institution of our time is marriage. Men give all of their power over to their wives when they marry, which is why men should never marry. It is the patriarchy (naive, powerful white knights/captain-save-a-hos/manginas) that gave women this power over men though marriage, not feminists. If you look deeply into the agendas of major women’s groups, you’ll find them fighting to hold onto this anti-male power.  Male political leaders (the patriarchy) are creating laws like ‘Yes Means Yes’ and VAWA to give women even greater destructive power over men’s lives.  Thanks to affirmative action and title IX (enacted by the patriarchy), women now have preferential treatment in employment, education, health and welfare.

Women can support themselves now, which frees men from having to do it.  In the past, it was mandated by society that men be providers and protectors of their families, just like women were mandated by society to be homemakers and caregivers. It was mandated that men go to war and sacrifice their lives for women and children. Those men that refused were branded cowards, imprisoned and ostracized socially and financially. Men and women that didn’t play ball were demonized by both patriarchs and matriarchs. In the past, for a man to get a decent job, he had to be married with kids. To some degree, this social rule still exists today – enforced by both the patriarchy and the matriarchy.

As time goes on, fewer and fewer men will marry.  Last I read, half the male population is now unmarried.  Men, at long last, are escaping their indentured servitude.  Women’s lib is the best thing that could have happened to men.  It freed them from a lifetime of financial slavery to women and women’s children.  Only naive, blue pill men and/or male doormats get married anymore.

[NeoParticipant 6]

Hooray for Vector!

Seriously dude, well done. Just watch out for any vindictive attitude she might throw your way. Also, be careful to not get suckered in by any promises she might make towards “changing” her attitude – whatever she changes will only be temporay until she gets what she wants.

 

Let us know if you manage to get away cleanly. May the force be with you!

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

Loot the joint bank account if you have not done so already.

[torch1980Participant 93]

True story mgtow brothers,

A broad I dated in highschool added me to Fb in 2009 and she tried hard to be my girl again even though she was” seperated” from her son’s father they weren’t married..yet..

 

Anyways, she sent me photos of her bare ass cheeks, in a thong and her t~~~ and played with her clit, she already knew how big I was down there cause she saw and played with it in highschool…

 

Long story short she doesn’t like my” not right now”  response so she cuts me off.. a week later, she marries him, doesn’t tell him s~~~ about us besides” we were close in highschool”  he’s a beta mangina blue pill” my wife is a goddess”  moron so cause her father is going to pass soon I stayed friends with her, yet she still looked at me and hugged me like she wanted me..even whining about how me and her sister. “Hurt her” cause me and her sister hung out,yea she gave me a blow job, but this ex listened to others about me cheating and I wasn’t and acted like a c~~~ about it..

 

So..I meet someone she knows instead of being happy for me she acts like an envious and jealous ex and bluntly said” YOU are married, you need to grow up!!! I am not your possession..you told me I should remain single” She got defensive and kept bringing up she wants to be friends so I told her if she doesn’t stop I will show her husband the sexual photos you sent me..she said” Go ahead.,he won’t believe you”

And the white knight is told all and forgives her claiming it was in the past..oh and that girl she and her family demanded me to not date, they are all buddy buddy with her and kiss her ass

And they are” GOD FEARING CHRISTIANS” lol

Ya know the” ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME WHEN I F~~~ UP, BUT I WILL USE THAT SAME GOD AS AN EXCUSE TO DO HATEFUL SOCIOPATHIC THINGS TO YOU..BUT I’LL ACT SUPERIOR CAUSE I SING AND HOLLER AROUND LIKE A MENTAL PATIENT ,AND TREAT GOD AS A GENIE AND A GET OUT IF SHADY S~~~ I DO TO MORALLY SUPERIOR PEOPLE CARD”

"I think of a man, and I take away reason & accountability"

[Anonymous 42]

A @ torch 1980, isn’t it amazing how people use GOD in psychopathic ways?  Satin is a god dressed as GOD to the feeble minded (the feminized), I know where you’re coming from. I know a preacher man who abandoned his family, and stole another mans wife and kid. talk about F~~~ED! I’m happy walking my own way, doing my own thing, and ignoring all the wolves in sheep’s clothing! MGHOW rules! Gone my own way, not hating God, nor mocking God! I’m extremely wary when people condemn in the name of God! F~~~ THEM!

[Primus_PilusParticipant 41]

Vector wrote:

….  Immediately after she says her parents will call me to arrange to pick up her stuff and she is not coming back to the house. This is going to be extremely awkward for me. I can just imagine the s~~~ she told her parents who probably hate me right now but I really don’t give a f~~~. They don’t know the details of our relationship and it’s none of their business either. Her father better not come in my house with an attitude that’s all I’m saying.

Hell don’t even let them in your house.   Go spend $60-$200 (whatever it takes), pack all of her s~~~ and put it in the garage or someplace close to the front door where you can use a dolly (or hand carry) and get it on the front porch ASAP.

Then just close the door and let them pick up the boxes.

NEVER let them in your house; never let her back into the house.

As the other poster said, you have a MGTOW samurai blade to end this relationship clean, cold and with no loose ends.     USE it.

 

[nedlahParticipant 72]

Vector, I have been following your story With great interest and I am so happy that you have taken action to get out of that s~~~ty relationship. Please give us an update.. Has she returned? What’s the latest news?

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Yeah Vector. What’s with all this keeping us on pins and needles. After all the work we put in, we deserve a blow by blow accounting. We want to know if her parents phoned and picked up anything yet. We want to know if you have been inundated with advice to talk to a Councillor. We want to know if the ex has been bugging you by phone or texts, trying to hold her ground, trying to sound loving, trying to sound apologetic, trying to wriggle back in? I mean you did put a monkey wrench into her plans and saved yourself one hell of a lot of grief in the future. It was such a success story we need red meat for the MGTOW crowd. Come on give us the details.

[VectorParticipant 178]

Ok, so the business trip she’s been on has been extended for another week.  She’s now traveling to Thailand, and coming back next week on 4/6.  We have been texting and emailing, and it’s been constantly arguing.  It got to the point where she threatened to have her father come over and pack her s~~~, and take her car (which I’ve been using, b/c I sold my car last year) and her mattress that we sleep in.  Her mother even called me.  I spoke to her mother, not giving too many details, but basically told her that her daughter has done some pretty f~~~ed up s~~~ over the course of the relationship, and I felt disrespected by her and didn’t deserve that treatment.  The mother kept asking why I did this to her when she was away, and I kept telling her that I didn’t want to get into it with her during her trip but she kept nagging me, so my anger emerged and words were exchanged.

Since she threatened to have her father pick up the car, forcing me with no transportation to work, I ended up buying a brand new car.  I was overdue for a new car anyhow, and was sick of driving her car around all the time.  The new car has definitely lifted my spirits!   She’s p~~~ed that I took the money out of our joint account, since I went against our plans to buy a house.  Stay in hock for the next 30 years paying that s~~~ off? NO thanks.  I already told her that I did not want marriage, kids, or a house.  So we’re beyond repair, and I told her we’re done.  I told her that I was going to pack her stuff up so when she arrives she can just take it with her.  She said not to touch her belongings, so I’ll just wait until she packs it herself.  She completely took over my big closet, and her s~~~ is everywhere.  Lesson learned…never move a woman into your house.

Now, I’m officially single and looking for an apartment for myself.  I am excited for the new adventures life has to offer as a single man.  This time around, no long term relationships.  Sexual needs met only.  I’m just waiting for her to arrive so she can pack her s~~~ and leave.  Thing is, I haven’t seen her in almost a month, and it’s going to be hard to just watch her pack and leave, but I must be strong to resist the urge for affection and sex even though I haven’t gotten laid in a month.  Easier said than done.  As soon as I see that ass in tight jeans, I’m going to want to f~~~, but I must remain strong and resist the urge knowing the ugly truth that she wants to rule me and beta me into the commitment trap.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

@vector

Let me be the first to +1 that.  We always need more Epic Tales of Victory like this.

And if anyone ever asks why you chose to drop the hammer while she’s gone, just tell them her being gone is what made you realize you’re much happier away from her than with her.  And once you realized that, it just wouldn’t be fair or honest to pretend otherwise until she got home.  You don’t owe anyone any explanation, and you sure as hell don’t owe them more of an explanation than that.

Vector wrote:

As soon as I see that ass in tight jeans,

As soon as you see that ass in tight jeans just keep reminding yourself how she said she was going to rule you.  Resisting her ass is how you prove her wrong.

[OasidParticipant 116]

Right on, after reading this and the replies I’m looking at a few of my life’s events as close calls that we can celebrate instead of depressing tragedies. As in: you know, if she stuck around instead of dumping me, I would have married her, if I did that I wouldn’t have the freedom, time and money I enjoy now. My only regret is the time and energy I wasted trying to be a woman’s “perfect man”

May the Force Be With You

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Vector,
you need to be in your own apartment, with witnesses, during and after her move out. In fact, you should make it so that for several days or weeks after, you can account for your whereabouts with witnesses, atm receipts, whatever it takes. You should not ever get close enough to her to even get a good look at her ass again. You accept any invitation ‘to just talk’ alone with her and soon after that conversation ends, you will very likely be trying (unsuccessfully) to convince the police that you did not in fact hit her as she reported. From the back of a police car in handcuffs, you’ll find this impossible. 6-9 months and 20-50k in legal fees later in court, where it’s your word vs hers, you’ll find it similarly impossible.

The invitation to ‘just talk’ alone somewhere is the bait. Like all bait, it will not look like bait. It will be something so sad, or so sexy, or so friendly, or so something…that refusing it seems unnecessarily cruel, or dumb, or over-cautious. That’s what makes good bait good…

You’ve already communicated to her the only message that she needs to hear from you. There is no need for the two of you to go ‘just talk’ anywhere. You are now in the most dangerous period of this entire experience. It isn’t over. It’s just getting started. It’s her turn to act now. Go back and read my last post, you’ve shown your hand and announced your plan to escape the planation. As far as she’s concerned, YOU ARE STEALING SOMETHING FROM HER THAT BELONGS TO HER! You may as well be a burglar or a purse-snatcher and should expect the similar treatment. You miscalculate, or underestimate this girl now and she will annihilate you for it.

I probably sound like I’m being an alarmist. I get that. So consider it this way. There are 3 possible ways you can proceed: 1) You can be too careful here and take precautions that someday you’ll look back on as unnecessary precautions. The negative consequences for that are zero.
2) You can underestimate the risk of what she will do, get distracted by a nice ass or otherwise fail to protect yourself adequately. Consequences for that are that you get destroyed legally, socially, financially … by some bat s~~~ craziness she cooked up that you didn’t see coming (because you weren’t looking for it).
3) You can estimate the risk perfectly, predicting in advance exactly what an emotionally unstable and p~~~ed off woman is going to do and take exactly the right precautions to protect yourself.

My parents spent a ton of money for me to go to medical school to learn about critical thinking skills. Let’s apply critical thinking here:
#3 is highly unlikely as no one is perfect and predicting a woman is essentially impossible on even a good day. This is not a good day to try.
#2 has a highly undesirable outcome and we can agree it should be avoided at all costs.
#1 is what I’m recommending. I WANT you to feel like you are being way too careful… I want you to take precautions against things you think aren’t even realistic… in order that you can be certain to have made yourself safe against things that are completely realistic but that you just don’t see coming… (YET!)

There is more than one way for her to rule you. There are MANY. All you’ve done so far is to announce you aren’t willing to volunteer to be ruled by the one mechanism you did see coming (only because she got drunk and told you). You sound as if you are expecting her to volunteer to let you off without a price…without even attempting any of those other ways. If she was that generous, she would never have tried to rule you/own you in the first place.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[DJKevgeezParticipant 141]

Vector why are you letting her dictate how her stuff is going to be packed and shipped out? Also why did you empty the account? Isn’t some of the money hers?

She wants you two to be alone. It’s a trap!
Do we need that ugly f~~~ in Star Wars here to tell you???
Do yourself a favor and beat off like 3 times on the day she arrives.
Eliminate the desire.
Or call an escort. Just don’t go into the s~~~uation Horny.

And try to have a MGTow or regular non-White Knight friend present when she’s there cause There’s power in numbers.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

BrainPilot wrote:

You accept any invitation ‘to just talk’ alone with her and soon after that conversation ends, you will very likely be trying (unsuccessfully) to convince the police that you did not in fact hit her as she reported.

I must have missed where Vector is saying she wants to talk to him alone, but I could not agree with you more.

@vector: Listen to BP.  Do not have anything to do with this woman going forward unless you have at least two witnesses present who you KNOW are on your side.  Document EVERYTHING.  And don’t even think of f~~~ing her.  That’s an express ticket to doing hard time for a false rape accusation.  Or worse.

Just end things with her as quickly and cleanly and definitively as possible.  You don’t need to discuss anything with her.  You don’t owe her any answers.  You don’t owe her anything.  If she persists just give her the address of the MGTOW website of your choice and let her work things out for herself.

[VectorParticipant 178]

DJ, I took “half” of the money out of the account, my portion of the money.  The rest is her money.  I can easily pack up her stuff, however I don’t want to further escalate anger and the possibility of another fight breaking out.  I want to brake from her cleanly, neutrally, with as little tension as possible.  She even told me “just go and live ur life, u haven’t missed me just fighting me and u have made some moves so I think ur fine without me u don’t need me”  she also said… “i almost feel like going straight to ur house to get my stuff and go b/c I feel i’ll never be happy with you after all this”… and also “thanks for just making me feel awful and ruining this trip for me, we are not gonna be ok, and we will part ways and never talk again, this is just another disaster in my life I can add on to the pile and again I get s~~~ted on, it’s cool, i’m so numb I won’t allow it to hurt me.”

You see, she’s 30 years old.  In her 20’s she was a typical party chick who would travel to FL, Cancun, the Carribean ect to all the party destinations.  She’s a typical club chick that gets dressed up and all dolled up to dance and get drunk.  I could just imagine her past sex life.  She also dated the “bad boys” in her 20’s, drug addicts, jail celled, her last bf was abusive and would hit her.  It took her to get punched in the face and a bleeding nose for her to finally brake it off, not to mention an abortion.  And she had the audacity to say that “we had sexual chemistry.”  This “bad boy” probably would f~~~ her brains out and beat her up, but she kept going back for more.  That s~~~ p~~~es me the f~~~ off so much.  It seems like EVERY SINGLE chick I’ve ever been with dated the “bad boy” that treated her like s~~~, but they couldn’t get enough.  Probably they were hooked on the sex, which is why they always kept going back.  Now she finds a guy like me; early 30’s, good job, stable, responsible, there for her etc.. and she completely s~~~s on me over and over again, trying to beta me into commitment, marriage and kids.  This is another reason why I’m braking up with her.  They f~~~ the bad boys in their youth, then when they realize their clock is ticking, they try and find a good man to settle down with.  I ain’t falling for that s~~~.  I ain’t going to be their tampon buying, purse holding little beta bitch, who will be forced into the “man cave” basement while she decorates the whole house that I’m putting my hard earned money into, who will jump when they say jump, f~~~ that s~~~.  Going my own way bitch, and getting revenge for all sloppy seconds I got from all the bad boy loving bitches that I had in the past.

In the beginning, I thought she was perfect for me.  I felt that by my age all the women already had kids and were married, so when I found a woman with no kids, good job, seemed to be intelligent, gave me great sex and blowjobs on the regular, I got suckered in, and decided to have her move into my place, open a joint account, and save for a house together.  Bad move.  I’m just glad I took the red pill early enough before f~~~ing up my life.  Now, I’m single, no kids, good job, in decent shape, new car, musician, and going my own way in life.

It’s so true how hard it was to get young pussy in my 20’s.  I guess b/c I never hit women or treated them like s~~~.  Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had my shares of plenty of pussy in my day, but got turned down by plenty also.  Now that I’m single again, I’m going to get revenge like Jason Voorhees and bang 19-21 year olds, treat them like s~~~, and kick them to the curb for the bitches they are.

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Vector My Good Man. Thanks for the update. This back and forth is exactly what your ex is doing right now. She’s on to everyone of her girlfriends discussing in great deal how she sees the situation. You are now definitely “personae non gratae” That’s short for you are now considered in some circles a pile of s~~~. In fact you are now known for being “Terrible in Bed”, “Short Dick”, and “You pop zits all day long while laying on the couch”. She is getting all kinds of advice on how to handle you when she returns. Believe me the plotting has already started. You may have already heard from one or two of her friends. If you have, those probs are out there to find out exactly what’s happening at your end. They want to know if you’ve been unfaithful or if you are now seeing someone else. How can she get revenge. The machinery is in motion and you are a sitting duck. In fact her mother’s call would be one of those. Yeah! “Why did you break it off over the phone while she was away?” “Couldn’t you be a man and wait till she got home and you could tell it to her face?” Even if you had waited till she got home, then the questions would have been “Why didn’t you wait a few days to give her time to get back on her feet before you piece of s~~~ broke it off with her?” Don’t worry. If you even go near the local watering hole and talk to another female, she’ll know about it even though it’s the middle of the night where she is. Yeah! She’ll know you already have a new car. She’ll be really p~~~ed if she sees you “Moving On” with your life. The revenge is being planned. The knives are out. If you want to raise the stakes, let it be known to someone who you are both friends with that you are starting to date other women. Wouldn’t hurt to be out of the house for a few days when she returns. She’ll automatically suspect you of sleeping around. You dirty bastard. Take the advice of the other guys on MEGTOW and beware. You got away before your signature was on the bottom line of a Marriage Certificate. You bastard.

[experiencedParticipant]

Get her crap out of their now, change the locks on your parents house, and give ’em each a key.  Her new returning via Thailand set off a deafening alarm.  Person ‘A’, fell victim to this, they told person ‘B’, who told me:  There’s a new drug in Thailand.  Your exgirlfriend puts on a layer of local boundary to her finger, and then this drug to her fingertip. No dropping something into your food or drink. It is a transdermal hypnotic. All they have to do is touch you on the arm, period. Consider the ramifications carefully. I wish it were BS, but heard too many of the details. Touched, you will do exactly what she says.  Let’s go to a hotel, let’s have unprotected sex, for a week, give me your location for the money you removed from the account, here eff a chicken while I do the photography………………….

do not let her even touch you, this is not paranoia it’s fact.          that drug combined with “I will rule you”…………..

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Vector “personae non gratae” Don’t leave your new car sitting in the driveway over night. Its fair game, and she’ll take the chance you are unlikely to lay charges. They love going after a guys favorite toy

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