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F~~~……………………………… Vector, I’d rather go back on what I said about being ‘outta here,’ than to not apologize. I am sorry I blew up at you. Realize, “F~~~, he’s gonna get roped in” because I allowed myself to get…roped in eras ago. Whatever you decide, you decide. It’s your call, not mine, I was totally out of line.
also, I hadn’t read mgtow wave’s post I hope you hadn’t concluded that I was piggybacking on it. i was reading a seperate post by Jj where he said this sight is tolerant of guys that blow up and theguilt hit me like a bag of bricks. He led by a positive example here.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
I guess Vector is not desperate enough to get out and get away. If I could I would change the job, city, state, disappear from a horizon for a few months, change my phone number, cut off all contact with the family … gone ghost or gone fishing 🙂
You and me both, brother. Once the aliens have a foothold, the only option is to nuke the base.
Vector wrote; what is your biggest concern if I don’t leave ASAP? Are you thinking that I might succumb to her beauty and fall into the marriage trap?
I am concerned that you will not make it out unscathed.. Not that you won’t make it out . I am sure your beyond making up and marrying this woman. But you can still be harmed by her vindictive female nature. Once she knows how determined you are to remain single that is when her anger will kick in… Please brother don’t be open with her about the details of your escape.. Just be gone with everything you value before she has any chance to do any harm…
BrainPilot wrote; The reason for this is that, to answer your question about what the risks are if you don’t get out asap: I can’t guess with any accuracy what sort of estrogen fueled craziness your fiancé might come up with if she is given a deadline for when she will no longer have access to you.
This man is correct about everything even the other members interest in your clean get-a-way…You have just robbed this woman’s future bank and we don’t want to see you take a bullet on the way out..or have the money dye blow up in your face..Our concerns are that she does nothing to harm you as you back out the door.. Smitty is right about your mother also..She did choose a side by letting your fiance stay..You can always make up and talk with your mother after this is over, but for now she is also your enemy…Good luck.. Would be great to hear that you moved out while your fiance was not there, did not forget a single item that you value and also that she does not know where you moved to.
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Have the top manager put in writing that your destination will be divulged to no one. Get his signature.
When you sign the moving company’s paperwork ahead of time, write on every document “destination address will be given to no one.”
lob grenades off the back of the moving truck if she follows it.
give new address to no one. new cell number to work, but not address.
hope this helps.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Vector My post was two days ago we are all in suspense about this…
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Fully agree with Harpomason. Would you please drop us a word or two. No matter what you’re doing, want to make sure you’re OK. BTW Buckethead’s Jordan is without parallel…gotta getta killswitch.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Vector, your whole world was running along til you heard her words, “I will rule you.” Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 4 words rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
While we all know that the 4 words are reality, and the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr is just from the wrong side of the looking glass, I apologize for not exercising appropriate empathy for the fact that the rest was..your whole world.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Well Guys It looks like we won’t be hearing from Vector any more. The last I heard was that he was looking for an apartment or a place to rent while his ex moved out. But I suspect he may have buckled under the pressure of getting a whiff of pussy. Maybe not. But that is smell is powerful stuff to ignore. All we can do now is hold out for a little longer with some hope for the poor bastard. It’s like knowing the plane is several hours late arriving, yet it departed on time, and no word. You start to think it might have crashed and burned. Poor bastard.
On that day, I started to “feign beta” and began displaying weak, needy, ass-kidding behavior to repulse her. It worked. And she started to lose interest, eventually making the break up HER idea. She was considerably younger and had no idea just how experienced I was. A lovely girl all around but highly dangerous to my sanity and well-being. I took the terrific job opportunity in another city far far away, and never looked back. Best move I ever made. I remember starting a new and when I came home to MY place which was empty… I actually remember punching the air around me , I was so happy to be rid of the shackles – knowing I had narrowly escaped the noose.
Amazing! I have done this also!
Marriage? No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.
I read the first three paragraphs, to where it said “we have a joint bank account”…
Damn you bro! Now I see why I’ve been single…
Joint bank accounts at this point for me is a huge no-no. Aint’ going to happen.
It clearly shows what you are there for…
In this day and age you WILL be alone if you don’t have a joint bank account, let the girl move in, buy her a car, ect…
Its just not for me.
I also am totally convinced that it would be almost impossible to have ANY net worth if you have a female in your life…wife or girlfriend, they will simply drain you of everything you have. Once all your money is gone they are gone. They will keep you around only if you continue to generate income.
If they are on a scale of 1 to 10 ranked as follows;
1. If they are a 9 or a 10 you need to either have$2M in Liquid Net Worth that they have access to, OR
You must have an after tax DISPOSABLE income of at least $15,000 per month which they can spend.
You of course must provide them with either their own Penthouse Apartment worth $2-4M or you must allow them to live in your house which must be worth at least $6M…
For transportation…you must provide them with ANY 2 Automobiles of their choice. Many females prefer Bentley Continentals and the Range Rovers. Not just one mind you…there must be AT LEAST 2.
2. If they are an 8 (the 8’s are in a whole different category) then you need at least $500,000 in liquid bank accounts with their name on it as a Joint Bank Account AND Pay on Death Beneficiary. OR
You must have an after tax DISPOSABLE income of at least $8,000 per month…AFTER all expenses are covered for housing and transportation…you better damn well be able to afford to buy her at least a brand New BMW 330i or a a Mercedes 350 (both these cars are around $60,000). If you can’t provide them with one of these cars, regardless of ANYTHING they are f~~~ing gone.
If we are talking about what you must provide women who are 7’s or lower…who really gives a s~~~…its not even worth your time…
Vector, Vector, Vector…don’t you see? You are falling for the bulls~~~ that is coming out of this womens mouth.
First off…after the first conversation: when you even suggested you MIGHT be breaking up with her, she probably went to the hotel bar and f~~~ed a guy.
Second: When she claimed she had a bad boy ex boyfriend that used to hit her…remember…that was almost certainly bulls~~~. Do you really think that if she is threatening to send her father over to your house to pick her stuff up that this women would tolerate a man hitting her? Do you think if her father and mother are getting involved in this situation that they would have EVER tolerated someone hitting her??? Come on…
Third: After a MONTH gone on the road…how many guys did she f~~~? I don’t know about all women these days…but I would say with some of the women I used to f~~~ and with some of my ex Girlfriends…a month ON THE ROAD WOULD MEAN AT LEAST 3 DICKS HAD BEEN IN HER ASSHOLE THE FIRST NIGHT SHE LEFT…Just my opinion…
Just realize these bitches lie just about 100% of the time…
Is Vector an extremely clever troll? Wising up or not is not his strong suit, troll or not.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
RoyDal: you may be right…
I did some simple math: 2 people working 60 hours per week equals about $3300 per month income, assuming they are making $7 per hour. He claimed he had a really good job but he also quoted working by the HOUR per week…
What women would tolerate living with a guy’s parents when she is working 60 hours per week? None in my world…
Even if they were working for $7 per hour…hell if she was hot she wouldn’t have been with him, trust me on that…
Oh well.
IF he was telling the truth then we can assume that if both of them are working 60 hours per week and there is International Travel involved we can assume they are each making at least $60,000 per year, in which case they are bringing in $120,000 per year.
What women would tolerate living with the guys parents? None in my world. Not when bringing in $120,000 a year. The average household brings in about $67,000 per year. (none of those people tolerate living with the dudes parents either)
Something doesn’t add up here…
Vector may be a female posing as a male…
In my opinion, Vector is one of these:
- Troll – male
- Troll – female
- Seriously deluded but sincere otherwise
- Obstinately stupid but sincere otherwise
That covers all the bases. I have seen good men kill themselves (literally) by being 3&4, so I wish him the best. On the other hand, since he insists on drowning in s~~~ creek, he should not be too surprised if I don’t jump in with him.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Well he’s probably just venting his frustrations, so it’s understandable.
Still, the part about him getting a women to live with him and his parents just didn’t seem to add up to me. Not at 34. No women is going to tolerate that s~~~ if she has a nice ass like he describes her having. They have too many saps out there panting for them.
On the other hand its amazing how hard it is for a women to find a man with a solid $30,000 per year after tax salary with full benefits.
I kid you not. The world is a f~~~ing joke. If the average household is bringing in $67,000 per year pre tax and the average home is around $400,000 like it is in my area you are looking at the average household having literally a negative cash flow…
So you can’t blame these women for HOE-in out their bodies…
Assuming I was making $30,000 per year after tax income would I want to have a women around to pay for? (I am not saying whether I do or don’t)…I’m just putting myself in the mind of the average male…
F~~~ NO I WOULDN’T PAY FOR THAT S~~~…
I’m happy for you Vector, you’re now a MGTOW blackbelt.
Use women the same way they wanted to use you … pump and dump them, that’s all they’re good for.
Best of luck and enjoy your freedom forever.
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Live Free or Die HardDamm Jackson, you talk a whole lotta s~~~ for somebody who makes assumptions. The reason we decided to stay at my parents house was to save money for a house. This was my prior blue pill thinking mentality almost 2 years ago. Now, over 75 red pills later, I’m in a much wiser mind frame. No mortgage, no marriage, no kids. And I’m far from making $7 an hour, are you f~~~ing kidding me dude? Come on…
Anyhow, guys, I have good news! I got a raise at work! The boss says I’m doing good. Not only that but the bitch finally left the house! BOOM…two great occurrences in the same week. Turns out she’s traveling to Mexico on business next week, and will be staying with her girlfriend when she returns until she finds her place. She left today. You guys were so spot on with your knowledge; hear me out:
My mother, being on HER side, confronted me in her presence saying to me “what’s wrong with you?” She said how much she “loved” my girlfriend. I even read one of her emails where my mother wrote “I can’t believe he could be so cruel and do this to you.” You guys were so correct on how she plotted to get the family against me. Even my father told me “I hope you know what you’re doing, she was the best girl you ever had.” Funny how my mother even mentioned for us to go see a counselor to get help, and even my ex wanted to do this. I obviously told them, hell no, no way I’m going to see a shrink. Pay money to tell my problems to somebody else? Get the f~~~ outta here with THAT bulls~~~. My ex even invited me for dinner so she could put the whole, I’ll change and we can get a place in my name, and if things get better I’ll add your name to the lease. Can you believe that crap?!? OMG…hell no.
So the 3 things you guys mentioned that would happen, happened.
1. Turning the family against me: My mother has tears in her eyes and is giving me dirty looks, as if I ruined this woman’s life, and put her in an uncomfortable position. Again, she only wanted to secure her future daughter in-law and grand kids. I already told her how I’m against marriage, and how I didn’t want to end up like my father. Now she probably feels hopeless that she will ever have grandchildren.
2. “I’ll make sure to change for the better”: She kept insisting on how she would “change” and fix the relationship for the better, in exchange for my willingness to have “marriage and kids” in my future mindset.
3. “Go and see a counselor”: My mother and ex insisted we speak to a counselor to fix our problems and rekindle the relationship, to which I obviously denied.
I’m almost home free, but not quite yet… She packed up several suitcases of clothes and belongings, however her furniture and the rest of her clothes/belongings are still here. She’s going to pick them up once she finds a place to live. By that time, I will be long gone. I’m actively searching for apartments. There is no f~~~ing way I can stand to be around my mother another day. She will constantly keep asking me “why did you do this to her?” and try to dismiss any wrong doings this woman has caused me.
Not only did she blurt out the “I’m gonna rule you” comment which ultimately took the icing on the cake, but here are a bunch of other reasons I decided to brake up with her:
1. No more spontaneous blowjobs unless requested. Lack of sexual initiation, always giving reasons like “too tired.” If I never initiated sex, we probably would have it once a week, or every other week. Certainly not like in the first 6 months when she couldn’t get enough of my dick. (I can just imagine what these married guys must go through.) Also, she completely stopped dirty talking or sexting throughout the day. When I would initiate, she would get MAD at me b/c she would be at work and she didn’t want anybody to see her text messages since they all work in close proximity. She literally got p~~~ed!
2. Constantly out every few weeks for “girls night out” and thinking it’s okay to dance with other men because I don’t dance with her when we go out. What a complete slap in my face that was.
3. Calling me on the phone drunk on several different occasions while out with her friends and being rude, disrespectful, unloving, unemotional, non compliant, completely belligerent, incoherent, and would argue and yell at me for asking where she was, and what time she was coming home; to which she would not answer anyhow.
4. Completely disorganized, forgetful, and a little ditzy. She leaves the room looking like a s~~~hole with clothes, shoes, and jewelry scattered EVERYWHERE, and won’t clean up unless I tell her to clean up.
5. Refusal to serve me at parties. You know those family BBQ get togethers or indoor parties where they would have dishes of food and everybody serves themselves? She refuses to “serve me” as she feels it’s beneath her to serve a man food, and would rather me get up and get my own plate. F~~~ing feminist bitch!
6. Any arguments we have leads to her staying away from me in another room keeping her distance and ignoring me sometimes into the next morning, and I was supposed to let her “have her space” and wait for her to come around and show love again. F~~~ that s~~~…
7. One time I had a long day at work and came home very tired. After dinner I told her I was going to take a hot shower and lay down, and asked if she could make my lunch for the next day. You know what she told me? There’s nothing wrong with your hands, make your own lunch.”
8. In the beginning of our relationship, she went to California for a week with her female cousin to visit a male cousin and his family. She insisted we have ZERO communication throughout the week. Her reasoning was “I wanted to see how much I would miss you.” She then texts me pictures of her sitting at the bar with a bouquet of flowers and tells me that some other dude gave them to her. Obviously trying to get me jealous.
9. One night she told me “There’s a reason why we’re together.” So I simply asked “why is that?” and she totally blew up on me out of nowhere with this terrible attitude and it led to an argument where she ignored me all night into the next day, all because I asked “why?” She kept saying “why can’t you just take a comment and leave it at that! You always want to go deeper to find out what I’m thinking and feeling, you can’t just leave a good comment and let it be, there always has to be more!”
What a f~~~ing psycho nut job I got myself involved with. As you can see the list just keeps going, but I highlighted the important stuff. I’m so f~~~ing glad I took the red pill just in time. Talk about a “ah ha” moment. As I said, I haven’t found a place yet, but once I do, and I’m sitting comfortably on my lazy boy in front of my huge flat screen TV, I’m going to crack a beer, cheers you guys, and let you guys know just how good it feels to have my own space. Stay tuned for that final post on this thread, because it’s coming soon.
I want to Thank you guys for all your support in this extremely life changing unforgettable chapter in my life.
I’m sorry Vector. I didn’t mean to make it sound like you were not making good money or whatever. (My opinion of the wealthy is actually quite low, the people who were very wealthy whom I have known have been without exeption the most sneeky, backstabbing, nefarious motherf~~~ers you could ever imagine.)
You’ve been through a hell of a situation. I think I lashed out emotionally due to replaying in my mind a similar situation I went through with my Ex Fiancee. We were living with my mother…literally the same thing. Saving up money for a place to rent and it was like…I don’t know, I think I lot of what you wrote reminded me of my situation and I just sort of blew up.
Funny the way it ended was a lot like your situation. I literally was sitting there one day and I said to myself “What has this women ever done for me?” and I just knew I wanted out. I was mentally fully ready to marry this women and had been for 9 months. Then suddenly on a whim I just said “F~~~ This”. It had a lot actually to do with her mother. When her mother came for a visit I overheard her say to my Fiancee “If I didn’t have my Husband I’d just find another one to live off of right away”. Both she and my Fiancee laughed wickedly…
I said “NOPE”. Then and there it was over.
So the parts about her needing to serve you may have been a bit too Asian for my tastes, but the rest of it is spot on. Good on you for understanding how women work to manipulate you and for standing above it.
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