I need to escape!!!

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Bright guy I will watch the video. Thanks.

I need to unload. Tonight I got together with the wife for some event. While I was waiting for her I was pondering why the f~~~ do I stay in this marriage. She treats me with such disrespects and appreciates nothing I have done… NOTHING! I MEAN NOTHING! AND I MEAN NOTHING! On top of that I don’t get sex? Then I saw her tonight. SHE LOOKED LIKE S~~~!! I WAS GROSSED OUT! I was thinking what the f~~~ am I doing int his marriage? And she says she isn’t sure how attracted she is TO ME? F~~~! You know what men? This MGTOW is making more and more sense to me!!!
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[HitmanParticipant]

greetings brother..you are being way too tough on yourself. do not buy into her distorted opinion . yes you can leave..who wants to live in hell? so make a plan , get a lawyer and get out. it aint that bad..

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Hello again men, sorry for rehashing this thread but I’m hurting right now and I need a reminder of what to do. My W and I had a talk last night. Basically, she has no feelings for me and is not sure she wants to try to rehash them. She started really getting unhappy when she compared her life to her school friends after she saw how well off they were compared to her. OUCH. She also is resentful at me for not doing more with my life. Oh yeah, she does not want sex. So, basically it’s over. I know one person said start making copies of everything we own. The way I feel, she can have everything and I will start off from scratch. But I will stay around for a while for our daughter’s sake, just sleep in my own room away from the wife.

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[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

If you have no job, you have no income.  If you divorce, the bitch could be paying you alimony instead of the other way around.

pZ1$ wrote:

Men I need your help! I never thought I would seriously contemplate just getting up and running away from this BS called marriage. But enough is enough! Having a wife admitting to me the lack of feelings, respect and attraction she has for me is enough to say screw it all! And she was being nice about it! I am pathetic! My position in this world is unacceptable! Jobless, hopeless, this is not for me! People say dude you have to work on yourself before you can fix your marriage. Well I have been working on myself! And nothing is happening! No job, no change, nothing! Enough is enough! This is pathetic! Would it be so wrong if I just packed up and split? Is there a special place in hell for men who do such things? I think it would be better for me to get up and shake my world into reality rather than sit back and do nothing like a wuss! This ain’t cuttin it!!! Oh yea, having a teenage kid makes this situation all the more difficult. But I think she would be better off without someone like me in her life.

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[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

pZ1$ wrote:

My W and I had a talk last night. Basically, she has no feelings for me and is not sure she wants to try to rehash them. She started really getting unhappy when she compared her life to her school friends after she saw how well off they were compared to her.

Well, let’s be realistic…. we already told you this was what was going on. I know you have been holding on to the hope things would get better, well her hypergamy doesn’t care. Once you accept this fact the quicker you can begin the healing process. Don’t delay the separation and divorce process. You clearly have nothing she wants, keep your clothes and a favorite chair, let her keep the rest.

As hard as this seems you need to let go of the emotional aspect of this because it will only make you hurt worse. Make sure your daughter knows you STILL love her, and don’t put her inbetween you and your ex. Keep rebuilding yourself, it is a slow process, but it must be done. As a man you have the capacity for endurance that women will never understand, rely on this ability. Detach yourself from the outcome, and accept what is, and don’t hope for what will never be.

Now you at least know where you stand, that is better than not knowing. You know what you have to do, all that remains is how you accomplish it. Please let me know how you’re doing I am concerned for your well-being, I know what it’s like to be “thrown away”. I know how it eats at you, and makes you doubt your every thought and action. YOU are the captain of your own soul my friend, you must not wallow in self-pity.

Someday, you will not feel this bad, someday you will smile again. It may not be soon, but it will happen. Chin up, stand up straight, shoulders squared back…… NOW WALK AWAY.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Smitty the Great One wrote:

pZ1$ wrote:

My W and I had a talk last night. Basically, she has no feelings for me and is not sure she wants to try to rehash them. She started really getting unhappy when she compared her life to her school friends after she saw how well off they were compared to her.

Well, let’s be realistic…. we already told you this was what was going on. I know you have been holding on to the hope things would get better, well her hypergamy doesn’t care. Once you accept this fact the quicker you can begin the healing process. Don’t delay the separation and divorce process. You clearly have nothing she wants, keep your clothes and a favorite chair, let her keep the rest. As hard as this seems you need to let go of the emotional aspect of this because it will only make you hurt worse. Make sure your daughter knows you STILL love her, and don’t put her inbetween you and your ex. Keep rebuilding yourself, it is a slow process, but it must be done. As a man you have the capacity for endurance that women will never understand, rely on this ability. Detach yourself from the outcome, and accept what is, and don’t hope for what will never be. Now you at least know where you stand, that is better than not knowing. You know what you have to do, all that remains is how you accomplish it. Please let me know how you’re doing I am concerned for your well-being, I know what it’s like to be “thrown away”. I know how it eats at you, and makes you doubt your every thought and action. YOU are the captain of your own soul my friend, you must not wallow in self-pity. Someday, you will not feel this bad, someday you will smile again. It may not be soon, but it will happen. Chin up, stand up straight, shoulders squared back…… NOW WALK AWAY.

Hey Smitty, wonderful post! Thank you man!! Yes, it’s time to make a life for myself along with my daughter. As you probably have read, I have been unemployed forever. For me to walk away with my chin up and shoulders back I have to 1: Get a JOB, 2: Find a place to live. I really want to own my own… perhaps a condo. But I can’t do this without a job again. I also have to get ready for retirement since I am already in my 50s.  I realize I very well might live my life alone, but I am alone now, and without self respect. It’s better to get my respect back. I really need help doing this and I thank posters like you for helping to steer me in the right direction. Thank you Smitty!

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[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

I got your back brother, I got your back…

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Smitty the Great One wrote:

I got your back brother, I got your back…

Thanks Smitty! You don’t know how comforted, assured and strong I felt when reading those words! The only other time I heard those words were by A WOMAN AT A JOB!!! LOL!  I lost the job anyway. LOL! Thank you bro! It’s time for me to find work and start getting my own life! It’s way overdue! Thank you bro!

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[pZ1$Participant 110]

I’m living in the basement and it doesn’t seems like she cares.

 

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

Cool, now you need to get a starter job, something low profile. Pizza delivery is good if you have a car it is  easy money.If she doesn’t notice all the better, apathy is your friend.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Anonymous 42]

pZ1$ wrote:

I’m living in the basement and it doesn’t seems like she cares.

Hey PZ1$, she doesn’t care, it’s not a question of “if” but “that” she doesn’t care.

I’ve seen women become spiritual killers, they’ll hate a man to death and beyond. It’s sick how two faced they can be.

You’re on your own anyway, the sooner you realize that fact, the sooner life will become much better; red pills taste like s~~~, but they wake you to a new reality, one that says I’m OK now, I believe in me, not we! Your spiritual whip lashings will become more and more self evident. You will heal traveling the road of self destiny.

You’re not alone, this road is traveled by “ALL” MGTOW…………….. we’re not walking slumped forward, heads down; we’re walking victoriously, and annihilating all opposition! We’re ruling ourselves in truth, observation, and proper adjustments, we naturally combat the tyrannical forces of feminism, it’s our new and improved behavior…..

[geo_rp75Participant 2]

I’ve been divorced for over 10 years now and I can tell you – deciding to take control of my life was the first step. Set a trajectory for yourself for the next few years. After my divorce I spun my wheels for years waiting for life to get better… to move on. It won’t just happen. For me going back to college for my degree was the answer. Figure out what will position you for success and let nothing dissuade you from that. Every man in Western society starts out a slave; a prisoner. The cell you’re locked in is illusory. The door is open. You need only to walk through it. Once you decide that you are the master of your own destiny people around you, close to you, will recognize your new resolve. The worst that can happen has happened to a lot of us. Lost wife, children, home, identity. Reinventing yourself may be the hardest thing you ever do. Just remember your identity is yours to define on your own terms. Workhorse provider is a role that exploits men and enslaves them. If cupcake files, as s~~~ty as that experience is, it will also represent an opportunity. Stay in the MGTOW community where there are plenty of men who have walked your path and understand your experience. It’s time for men to start looking out for each other. You’re not alone. Many of us have been there.

[Anonymous 42]

geo_rp75 wrote:

It’s time for men to start looking out for each other

“MGTOW CORPS”

Help lift the fallen!

[pZ1$Participant 110]

To be fair, I can’t blame the wife for not desiring me or respecting me. After all, I have failed at my career. But have I? Yes, I experienced failures. But I also experienced at least some successes. But not enough to merit being a success in her eyes. I can accept this. It’s the truth. And I can’t blame her for not having any desire for me. So, all I can do is pick up the pieces of my life and move forward. Not for her sake, but for mine. After all, I am no longer here to win her approval, or any other woman’s approval for that matter. There is a certain freedom in living that! There really is!

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[Anonymous 42]

Hey pZ1$, don’t be so down on yourself! s~~~! You’re beating yourself into the ground for NO reason. She’s the looser, wait and see where her happiness is after you’re actually GONE. She’s the one giving you rejection issues! Don’t do it to yourself! Be Free from the shamming, you’re a perfectly good man, act on it!

My own life has been in the gutter, and by all outward appearances I was a LOOSER, but not according me! I stayed in a good relationship with myself! I’ll never reject myself again, self rejection could lead to sew-aside when life’s kicking your ass into the ground.

I’ve made peace with poverty, it has NO BEARING on the value of a man suffering it’s ill effects. I’d rather be an impoverished MGHOW, than a filthy rich tyrant. Your riches await you; you just need to have your focus past the trauma of a torn relationship. Trust me, I’ve been at the bottom, and may return there someday, that’s not my focus, My focus is more about how I treat others accordingly.

An honest goodhearted guy is worth much more than all the filthy rich tyrants in the world. You life in freedom of spirit awaits you………………………. Drink from the peaceful waters of self preservation, your mind deserves a rest…… I have allot of hope for you, It’s always easier to see clearly from the outside looking in, than from the inside looking out! I’m sure most others here would agree….. Head up, shoulders back! Stiffen your spine and work to solve your problems, they are yours, and yours alone. With the right attitude, you will rise and triumph!

You’ll always have my hand to help lift you from disparage, same goes to any man willing to change for the better…..

 

[Tony BaloneyParticipant 0]

My wife has been threatening divorce since one month after marrying me. It’s been 7.5 years now. We have a 5 yr old girl and 4 month old boy. I’m not sure what to do about the divorce. She makes about 100k a yr and I make 45k. Just bought a new house 6 months ago. Her wealthy but frugal parents suggested a mediator instead of both getting lawyers. I don’t want to get f~~~ed out of a decent place to live and certainly doubt she’d agree in mediation to pay alimony but that’s what I want her to do.  We don’t have any savings. I’m bad with money but she’s just as bad. Her dad owns the house and we pay mortgage to him. I basically been tricked into dependency on her and her family. What’s the best way out? Get apartment then divorce or vice versa? I’ve got a good mindset because I’m ready for the future I just don’t want to make too many more mistakes. Will I have to go into debt for getting a lawyer? Thanks to all of you

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

get your place before you do anything else….

Expect to get f~~~ed in the divorce, and I mean deep and wide. While it is conceivable that because she made more you could get alimony it is highly unlikely to happen.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Anonymous wrote:

Hey pZ1$, don’t be so down on yourself! s~~~! You’re beating yourself into the ground for NO reason. She’s the looser, wait and see where her happiness is after you’re actually GONE. She’s the one giving you rejection issues! Don’t do it to yourself! Be Free from the shamming, you’re a perfectly good man, act on it! My own life has been in the gutter, and by all outward appearances I was a LOOSER, but not according me! I stayed in a good relationship with myself! I’ll never reject myself again, self rejection could lead to sew-aside when life’s kicking your ass into the ground. I’ve made peace with poverty, it has NO BEARING on the value of a man suffering it’s ill effects. I’d rather be an impoverished MGHOW, than a filthy rich tyrant. Your riches await you; you just need to have your focus past the trauma of a torn relationship. Trust me, I’ve been at the bottom, and may return there someday, that’s not my focus, My focus is more about how I treat others accordingly. An honest goodhearted guy is worth much more than all the filthy rich tyrants in the world. You life in freedom of spirit awaits you………………………. Drink from the peaceful waters of self preservation, your mind deserves a rest…… I have allot of hope for you, It’s always easier to see clearly from the outside looking in, than from the inside looking out! I’m sure most others here would agree….. Head up, shoulders back! Stiffen your spine and work to solve your problems, they are yours, and yours alone. With the right attitude, you will rise and triumph! You’ll always have my hand to help lift you from disparage, same goes to any man willing to change for the better…..

Thanks MG -Tower. I appreciate that. This all is bringing back memories on how I tried to get my dear late Mom’s attention (God rest her soul), when I was a small child. I would whisper to myself to get her attention but I don’t recall her responding. I was ignored. I feel the same way with my wife. She could care less that I no longer sleep with her. She just ignores is and acts like everything is normal. My kid is bothered by it, but not my “loving wife.” Ignored again. 🙁 Oh well. It hurts. But it is reality. But you said use her indifference towards my advantage and move forward. That’s exactly what I am trying to do. 🙂

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[Tony BaloneyParticipant 0]

Thanks but do you think I should get my own lawyer?

[WarratahParticipant 895]

pZ1$ – This is going to sound very ‘New Agey’ but bear with me. Sex is an energy. Women have known this forever and they utilise our sexual energy for their own purposes and gain. They do this by either enabling the release of the energy or by damming the energy and allowing it to increase in pressure. Both are effective although the ‘damming’ is incredibly cruel. When my former wife pulled this stunt I found myself unable to focus on ANYTHING other than sex. I did the silliest things. It broke my heart. And then I somehow refocused that sexual energy (and it wasn’t easy and I’m still not too sure how I did it so I can’t advise – I think I just quit on her) but if you can use that energy, focus it, on what you need right now – training/a job/opportunities – it will give you a mighty push in the right direction. Once you get going, momentum takes over and you keep going. Maybe she’ll decide to again have sex with you. Maybe someone else will. Personally, once a woman has pulled that stunt on me I won’t give her another chance to play the same game. But that’s your (future) choice. Use that energy!

...And in our own despair, against our will, Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Agamemnon; by Aeschylus

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