I need to escape!!!

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

How is your clarity coming?

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[dididParticipant 9]

CPT Obvious wrote:

Read those last four comments slowly and let them sink in. Then read them again, they are spot on. You have no idea how lucky you are to have people giving you such good advice. If I would have had the same and listened, it would have saved me so much grief and money. MG is handing you a red pill. Truthseeker is giving you an overview of what you need to do. Smitty has given you an excellent formula to clear your head right now. And ListenUp!s advice is gold. Trust me, you need to do that to protect yourself. – Obvious

You don’t need to escape from something..your emotions are your allies. Thanks Smitty The Great One for sharing that method. Is an recommended one and is working everytime. Not only in break-up phases but in any situations… – conflictual situations where emotions are so stronger so blue pill seems to gain advantage against red pill

[dididParticipant 9]

Best advice !

[MichaelQBlackParticipant 20]

A few things you need to realize:

Up to this point, she has convinced you that you were worthless and that she had the worth because she had the kid and she has the ‘mystical’ vagina.

 

you have the power not her… the choice is very much in your hands… that should empower you. Your self worth is not related to her opinions… there are over 7 billion people on the earth right now… she is just one insignificant person.

You will find a job. You just need to stay strong and keep knocking down doors and be persistent until you get that break.

She will try to use emotional blackmail, try to provoke you, and engineer situations that make it difficult for you to get out. That’s not a reason to stress. You know this. Become like Teflon – anything thrown at you doesn’t stick. You ignore it and concentrate on your plan. As others have said, avoid her as much as possible

She will absolutely try and use the kid to get to you… this is to be expected… when you encounter it, you will see it for what it is and you will ignore it.

Make your sole focus the prospect of being in a financially secure position, then get out of that mind/body prison ASAP…

there’s nothing you can do about the kid… he or she will get indoctrinated by the mother – it happens all the time; but this is no reason to worry. Once you’re settled and in a good place, you’ll be able to calmly explain the situation.

As ListenUp and others have said, gather evidence and documentation of all things legal and financial. You will need these.

Once you’re solvent, either disappear using the means some have already suggested, and/or retain the services of a lawyer if needs be.

 

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

Dude get a divorce but don’t leave your teenage daughter. Believe me you will regret it one day.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[WarratahParticipant 895]

pZ1$ – you still out there? What’s happening?

 

...And in our own despair, against our will, Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Agamemnon; by Aeschylus

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Hello men! I apologize for my absence. I have been concentrating on bettering myself. I have had some job interviews. A few more are coming. I have become energized on trying to get my life together. Without getting into the negative name calling of women, I can understand where you guys are coming from. I don’t think there is a woman in my life who I can truly trust. Women don’t change. They don’t get us. They just don’t give a s~~~. I get no credit for the work that I do around here. It’s pathetic!!! It ticks me off. I work hard trying to keep things in check but I get no credit. Oh well… Hey, I am working on getting back on my feet and we will see what my next move is. Until the, I don’t ask for sex. I have not had it in months. What’s the use? I must keep on pressing on and get myself out of this whole.
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[patfreedParticipant 4]

@pz1$ no sex in months. f~~~ that. If you don’t get out of this marriage, the money you save up from the next job will go to alimony payments and all the bulls~~~ that follows. I believe my bruhs have replied and said all that can be said. Time for you to decide bruh.

I was married for 2.5 years and miserable, with a bi-polar woman; like your case, she appreciated nothing, none of my efforts to improve myself. There are PLENTY of women out there BEGGING for marriage, and plenty of women out there of ALL TYPES. Bruh, get out of your marriage, get a good lawyer to get you WELL informed BEFORE you take the step, and minimize your losses.

Keep contact with your daughter, it’s not her fault if you divorce. Be tough, get the f~~~ out, but this is just advice, do whatever you want.

I salute you bruh.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Thanks patfreed. It’s a catch 22. I can’t get out of my marriage cause I don’t have income. But if I understand you correctly, if I get out now she would have to pay me alimony. If I get a job I will have to pay her. I think I understand.  I know how it will work out. She will win. She will upgrade and find a better man and I will be alone. LOL Or, if I find a new woman she will be hot with a s~~~ load of crazy issues. LOL! Who knows.  Right now I am not in the frame of mind to get a divorce. I am in the frame of mind of becoming successful again. And this time I am NOT going to lose it. 🙂 I will make the best money and have the most power and success I have ever had. These last few years have taught me some important lessons on not screwing up. Anyway, I am just still waking up and have to get my head in gear to make more sense. lol Thanks man.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

MichaelQBlack wrote:

A few things you need to realize: Up to this point, she has convinced you that you were worthless and that she had the worth because she had the kid and she has the ‘mystical’ vagina. you have the power not her… the choice is very much in your hands… that should empower you. Your self worth is not related to her opinions… there are over 7 billion people on the earth right now… she is just one insignificant person. You will find a job. You just need to stay strong and keep knocking down doors and be persistent until you get that break. She will try to use emotional blackmail, try to provoke you, and engineer situations that make it difficult for you to get out. That’s not a reason to stress. You know this. Become like Teflon – anything thrown at you doesn’t stick. You ignore it and concentrate on your plan. As others have said, avoid her as much as possible She will absolutely try and use the kid to get to you… this is to be expected… when you encounter it, you will see it for what it is and you will ignore it. Make your sole focus the prospect of being in a financially secure position, then get out of that mind/body prison ASAP… there’s nothing you can do about the kid… he or she will get indoctrinated by the mother – it happens all the time; but this is no reason to worry. Once you’re settled and in a good place, you’ll be able to calmly explain the situation. As ListenUp and others have said, gather evidence and documentation of all things legal and financial. You will need these. Once you’re solvent, either disappear using the means some have already suggested, and/or retain the services of a lawyer if needs be.

GREAT ADVICE!! THANK YOU 23232!!!
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[WarratahParticipant 895]

Are you thinking that if you get a job and your life back on track that things between you and your wife will normalise again?

...And in our own despair, against our will, Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Agamemnon; by Aeschylus

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Warratah wrote:

Are you thinking that if you get a job and your life back on track that things between you and your wife will normalise again?

Well it’s always possible but highly unlikely. According to certain authors I have read, a wife needs to look up to her man and respect him. Until the, she can’t be turned on by him. So it’s always possible. However, I doubt that will happen. Things will probably remain the same. I will live in  a sexless marriage even when I become successful again. However, one thing is certain. I can’t do anything now. I have to get my feet rooted in a job again.

Oh, one more thing. A sexless marriage has always been the normal for me.
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[BiG_WeaselParticipant 116]

pZ1$, as a divorcee myself (lasted 12 years before I opted out), and a father of a teenage daughter, my advice to you is this:

• Exhaust all options to patch things up.  If there’s a marital issue, try and work it out.
• If that fails, consider a divorce

First the financial stuff:  You WILL be paying child support for your kids, until they are 18 or graduate high school (as is the case in most states).  There’s no way around this, other than to not work.  Support is based off of your income, and if you have nothing, they can’t take anything.  In my state, you cannot amend the payments for periods of two years, either.  So, if you make good money, and then take a lesser paying job, your payments do not go down to compensate.

Then, we have the emotional stuff: If she won’t hear you and make adjustments to her attitude toward you, then there’s nothing you an do about that, either.

My advice is to create an inventory of what’s considered marital property, and what’s not.  In most states, marital property is anything purchased during the course of the marriage.  If you bought your car before you married, that is NOT marital property, and she can lay no claim to it.  Same with the house, etc.  If there’s anything of value that IS marital property- SELL IT BEFORE YOU FILE FOR DIVORCE.  Take that cash, and invest it in your lawyer.  Use marital funds to end the marriage.  Its the ultimate coup to have “her half” pay for your divorce.

And, one last comment about the “sexless marriage” thing.  There’s an old saying that goes, “If you ain’t getting it, someone else is”.  Since you’re not working, maybe follow her for a bit, and see if she’s getting some strange on the side.  That would not only be grounds for divorce by itself, but would really put the favorable opinion on you.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Good advice. I have to do what I can. Getting a job is key. So what the hell do I do with my sex drive? S~~~. LOL

I sure hope she’s not getting it somewhere else. I’m kind of freaking lost. Told her she looked sexy before.

The more I am looking into this MGTOW the more it make sense!!!
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[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

Well, now that you are heading in the right direction, you can have the second tool you need.  Belief…. simple do dah, unexplainable belief. You have to believe in you first before anyone else will. When you believe in yourself, your confidence will return and in a big way. At this point you will pique the interest in your wife, when this happens continue ignoring her. If there is ANY attraction left keeping her at bay will give you an opportunity to rekindle any remaining spark.

If you choose to remain married you need to make sure YOU understand that she is NOT LOYAL TO YOU. When you have recovered your power, you let her know you know she was unfaithful. She abandoned you when things got hard, don’t you ever forget that, because if it happens again, she will do the exact same thing. Make no misunderstanding, this isn’t personal, it’s just female nature.

You have to decide what you want in your life. You have to decide what kind of people you want in your life. Nobody here can make your decisions for you. I can’t fix your problems, and wouldn’t if I could. You have to be the Captain of your own soul.You can stand with what you have, for whatever reason you choose, and I’ll support you. You can kick the bitch to the curb, and I’ll stand with you on that as well. But in the end it is YOUR decision, we’re only here to give you the benefit of our collective experience.

For any of this to happen you must believe….

 

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Passenger22Participant 7]

Hey man I was in the same boat as you a month ago. Wife just said she didn’t have feelings anymore and up and left. She made up her mind. There’s nothing you can do. That’s the kind of women western society has fostered these days. We’re giving women waaay too much attention. More than they really deserve. I say we cut the crap, f~~~ who we want, and never commit to a woman cuz she’s never going to commit to you. Ever.

[BiG_WeaselParticipant 116]

I think you’re a little on the extreme, CaptainSol, but only barely.  MGTOW is about re-prioritizing your life, first and foremost.  Women of quality warrant attention, but not at the expense of leaving everything else in the dust.  Take up a hobby, hang with friends, make time for yourself first, and and if her path and yours are going the same way, fine.  If not, carry on without her.

Someone once told me that there are only 3 things you can control in life: What you say, what you do, and what you think.  Make sure those are focused right, and you’ll be good.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

BiG_Weasel wrote:

I think you’re a little on the extreme, CaptainSol, but only barely. MGTOW is about re-prioritizing your life, first and foremost. Women of quality warrant attention, but not at the expense of leaving everything else in the dust. Take up a hobby, hang with friends, make time for yourself first, and and if her path and yours are going the same way, fine. If not, carry on without her. Someone once told me that there are only 3 things you can control in life: What you say, what you do, and what you think. Make sure those are focused right, and you’ll be good.

Great advice! Thanks. It’s been months since we have been together. Months! I refuse to ask! I suppose I can get it if I ask nicely. But why bother? After all, she doesn’t desire me. This is bulls~~~.  Hey Big Weasel did you see the photo that went viral of a weasel on a bird’s back that came out the other day?
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[Anonymous 42]

Smitty the Great One wrote:

At this point you will pique the interest in your wife, when this happens continue ignoring her. If there is ANY attraction left keeping her at bay will give you an opportunity to rekindle any remaining spark.

Smitty I understand what you’re saying, it’s like trying to pet a goat, they turn away from any attention, turn from them, 2 seconds later, with your back turned, You’ll feel their breath as they start nibbling on loose clothing, or licking your hand.

Women are different, once a woman stands on the grounds of rejecting her man, it becomes a new pasture, the fence is broken, they’ll leave at the slightest sign of trouble. They never forget those negative feelings for their man. It’s permanent, part of their psychic. A friend in need, is a friend in deed. Sure you may stabilize her on your branch, for a time, but like a monkey, she’ll leap when the opportunity arises.

Where the f~~~ is her support for you during your miserable DOWNS? Support? F~~~ NO! Grind his ass into worthlessness. WHENEVER WOMen failed to remain my unwavering friend, they were summarily dismissed from my life, male friends too! I’m big on “loyalty” too bad it’s like a grain of white sand on a 10 mile long black volcanic beach.

The reason our forefathers had achieved life long commitments with their wives, was Patriarchy by legal dominance over women. Now women have legal dominance over men. The LAW blew a f~~~ing hole in patriarchy, like 12 gauge slug fired at an apple.

MAN ARE F~~~ED UNDER THE LAW; MGTOW “are” men p~~~ing all over the LAW, and justifiably so…… MANGINAS drink these vile laws, as if these VILE laws are handed down from God HIMself!

it’s like ice auger in your ass! full throttle!

[Bright guyParticipant 156]

Hello pZ1$,
Believe it or not, YOU ARE AT THE BEST TIME TO DIVORCE. I know because I am in the same exact position in life you are. I had a good job 3 years ago, life was a little bit better than but I stayed in a marriage because of my kids.(Blue pill thinking at its finest) Now I have a very limited income from a part time job. Its been a sexless marriage for YEARS, not months!! Within this past year, she got some money, and started to see someone else. She told me she wanted a divorce and I would move my stuff out and we would figure it all out later
You know what I did?  I found my b~~~~ and self respect back. I said F~~~ you I am not moving. What she thought was going to be an easy steam roll over the nice guy husband has turned into a freakn s~~~ storm mess. The house she wanted now has be sold, she found out she gets no alimony, and she is soon going to find out being a “single” mom life will not be all it cracked up to be. The best part about it is — the money she got is now gone
Yes I know I will have to pay child support and I am fine with that. It for my kids. I have found out that multiple things in life have to done at the same time to be successful . Please don’t wait to become successful before you file for divorce. This thinking will only hold you back from what you really needs to be done. You will have a miserable life and have to pay that much more because then you will have to pay alimony too
Find your self respect, move on, and build a better life. Great things in life require belief in oneself, the drive to succeed and ignoring all the bulls~~~ others around you say to you to bring you down
http://www.timeo-performance.com/#video    This video says it all.. enjoy !!!!!

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