I need some help

[Anonymous 54]

Ive always found one of the most “unfair”things in the universe is when you break up with a woman and you are herat broken.Shes out f~~~ing some dude, while women won’t have any thing to do with you.Women won’t touch you when your down and out ,unconfident,heart broken.Its one of the worst places to be in life. What you yearn for..closeness,a best friend,life companion,someone to share things with…all of that doesn’t exist. Sorry. I would go skydiving if I had the b~~~~. But I don’t. Have fun Brother!!

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

Old Sag..

Exactly. Right before coming here, again, I was looking up what the hell I was doing wrong and why I couldn’t even get a coffee with a chick.

Turns out, women are insane. Everything is the complete opposite of what it should be. I’m single and in want (not need) of female companionship, but they can smell it on me like I stepped in it. So, no dice.

I’m out of work now. And getting ready to chill with my kids before bringing them back to their mothers, but I got to say thanks to you guys. Just getting some of this off my chest has been good today.

I’ve pushed ahead with the divorce stuff with my ex. Turns out, I owe 700 a month even while doing 50/50. That’s a kick in the b~~~~.

Perhaps she should find a decent job where she can gross more than 275 a week.

But, more to Old Sags point, I’m really starting to wonder if all of what he said is true. No real substance from women, just brain washing and keeping up appearances to keep men in line….

Alright. I’ve seen it enough on here…. Here’s the question, Fleshlight, viable option, yes or no?

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Ive always found one of the most “unfair”things in the universe is when you break up with a woman and you are herat broken.

This is one of the more difficult red pill doses to swallow. It took me a long time to come to the epiphany that even thought men love women, women do NOT love men. We continually make the mistake of thinking that our wives/girlfriends love us just as much as we love them.

The reality is women view men as:
1. An ATM. “I’m going to leave you and take ½ of your net worth in perpetuity.” Just kidding. They would never use the word perpetuity — it has too many syllables.
2. An appliance to work for them or make their lives easier. “You would be handy to have around.”
3. A fish. “You are a good catch.”

***Recommended Reading***
The Manipulated Man by Esther Villar
The Masculine Principle Blog Author unknown, but I suspect Key Master
The Cultural Devastation of American Women: The Strange and Frightening Decline of the American Female (and her dreadful timing) by Nancy Levant
Illimitable Man Blog Author unknown.
MGTOW Forums by MEN, and the occasional SJW, Clam, Cat Lady, & Mangina.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hey Jough,

Congratulations on finding MGTOW and creating a fine Introduction.

Cheers to the MGTOWs who wrote the replies. Those replies are all excellent.

I nominate this introduction thread as a candidate to be placed as a “sticky” which will help many men.

Jough, I have been where you are at now.

Since you are working with MGTOW, your life will get better, especially when you can accelerate your learning curve and avoid making the same mistakes.

RegularJough wrote:

Any tips?

Try to absorb everything MGTOWs are telling you.

Keep reading the Forums and the Archives.

The Introduction section of the MGTOW forums is filled with men just like you who are asking the same questions.

Most of the thoughtful replies by other MGTOWs in those Introductions are brilliant.

Here is an example of an excellent reply that was given to a man who posted his introduction, “New to MGTOW today,” just before your post:

Badger wrote:

Esther Vilar’s book saved me so that recommendation to read it is very good. A similar book by a Nigerian author in England is The Anatomy of Female Power. Both are online at:

Esther Vilar
The Manipulated Man
https://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/the_manipulated_man.pdf

Chinweizu
The Anatomy of Female Power
http://therawness.com/AFP.pdf

You will find the members here are very experienced and sharing information is invaluable. I have only been on site for a few months, and despite being over 70 years old, I have learned a lot of explanations for the female behavior I had experienced or seen in the past. Prior to MGTOW, you had to have been lucky to have had any married men really warn you about the perils of marriage. Now the married and divorced men are finally getting to tell their stories here. So listen to them. They will keep you out of trouble.

RegularJough wrote:

Is MGTOW a serious solution, or just a compromise?

Having serenity as a direct result of MGTOW allows me to fully enjoy peace and tranquility.
Now watching a sunset is amazing.
Going for a walk at sunrise is miraculous.
Having a moment to watch the birdies is wonderful.
Now I am never “bored.”

In hind sight, my relations~~~s with women was an addiction which ruined my inborn Serenity. This addiction has the same chemical characteristics on the body as using heroin.

Also, the influences of women compelled me to do things that were not in my best interests even though I believed them to be “exciting” activities, whenever I was temporarily away from women.

RegularJough wrote:

Yesterday was a bad day for me, I felt really low

RegularJough wrote:

How do I reconcile the part of my brain that makes me want women?? Even if I know they are 99% trouble, how do I keep myself in check? This almost seems harder than being married!

You can expect a “crash” every time you are cut off from your addiction. Temporarily finding another woman to f~~~ is just a “hair of the dog” fix. It will only keep you addicted.

Removing Blue and Purple Pill indoctrination is like peeling layers off of an onion. It takes time to unlearn bad habits and to understand how to live as a free man.

I hope you are able to make better choices than me and move past addiction to reclaim your natural instincts and essential Serenity.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

RegularJough wrote:

I can’t get laid,

i recommend 2 things
1. fleshlights
2. female escorts

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

I have a lot more to say, so much more to share.

It’s time for bowling with my girls, then dinner.

I’m thinking I’ll do a tattoo tonight. I’m thinking a pill. Can you all guess the color?

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[Anonymous 3]

RegularJough wrote:

My logical brain knows that women are the cause of my stress, yet I can’t shake the feelings about wanting to get laid.

You cannot deal with something you do not understand. And this simple sentence of yours will take a lifetime to understand.

The little that I know about this is that men don’t really care about sex, it is the emotional connection that we seek.

The proof is that you can have sex anytime with a professional, and yet you are missing something “intangible”. That is companionship, the one thing women cannot provide because of their egotistical nature.

We are alone. We where always alone. People saying otherwise are just selling snake oil.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

RegularJough wrote:

You guys are great.

I think I’ll spend some cash this week.

I’ll go sky diving on Thursday, and drop the $250 for divorce papers Monday, and maybe pick up some oil paints. I like painting, but my ex hated that I had so many fun things that I did by myself.

How do I reconcile the part of my brain that makes me want women?? Even if I know they are 99% trouble, how do I keep myself in check? This almost seems harder than being married!

While she is getting laid you can plan for the divorce. Let her waste her time.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[experiencedParticipant]

Sorry you’re going through all this but keep going and it will pass.

Laydeez can have a lay, a boyfriend, a fiancée, a husband, at the drop of their panties. Easier said than done, but ignore her and Mr the s~~~. They’ve all got men in holding patterns, orbiters, he’s just a friend, etc. hanging around. HER LOSS NOT YOURS.

Stay busy, keep moving, over prepare legally.

Pray.

She will privately regret all years from now, you won’t.

Stay in touch with us!

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Keymaster wrote:

You need to realize you’re conditioned to think this way, by TV, media, music videos, women, magazines, your wife, your mom, even PUAs hammer this into your head like “you need to get laid”. They fabricated an entire industry out of it!

Keymaster is right! Read the quote below from the late Jesuit priest, Anthony de Mello, in his book Awareness. I am an atheist, so I am not pushing religion. However, his book is a good read and he also does not push religion. You can real the reviews on Amazon.com. The book is more about insight into how we are programmed with so many false ideas, just as Keymaster has so aptly stated.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

Welcome brother. Good Luck and enjoy the forums.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

Alright. Back home, and I got something to share.

Now, I expect much praise from you guys, just a heads up.

While bowling with my kids, my ex contacted me for a favor. To look at her car. Now, I’ve fixed it once before, and it lead to her not wanting my help and wanting to be independent from me and my many skills. Now, she’s having new car trouble and I told her to have the guy she’s sleeping with fix it for her. I can honestly say on the past I would’ve helped her, just for the kids sake (so I tell myself). But, not this time. She came back with all kinds of hurtful words and insults. Plus guilt trips, playing victim, and saying how awesome of a person she is and how good she’ll take care of her new guy.

I just let it all roll. Didn’t even phase me at all.

I even said I had a new person I was relying on. And she got bent out of shape, so I said it was me, that I’m relying only on myself from now on and I’ll never let myself down.

The kids are going back to her in a couple of hours, then I’m going fishing.

Last week, I was scared of being alone for a week, but somehow, after listening to her bull for a bit today, fishing alone sounds like heaven.

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[Anonymous 54]

Fishing or wrenching on your x’s car while her new guy drinks beer and watches tv. Easy choice. Happy fishing. Alone.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

RegularJough wrote:

my ex contacted me for a favor. To look at her car. Now, I’ve fixed it once before, and it lead to her not wanting my help and wanting to be independent from me and my many skills. Now, she’s having new car trouble and I told her to have the guy she’s sleeping with fix it for her. I can honestly say on the past I would’ve helped her, just for the kids sake (so I tell myself). But, not this time. She came back with all kinds of hurtful words and insults. Plus guilt trips, playing victim, and saying how awesome of a person she is and how good she’ll take care of her new guy.

Continued s~~~ testing. Congratulations. You passed with flying colors. Nice work.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[53ClicksUpParticipant 1345]

Jough, just a couple of years ago, I was standing in the same doorway you are now. Sounds like you are actually doing pretty good by most standards. At least you get to see your children. My ex took mine and moved far enough away (400 miles) that I am lucky to see my teenage son once every couple of months. Fortunately I have a pilot’s license and own a small plane, so I can go visit if I can get a 3 day weekend off from work. And no the court didn’t see fit to listen to me or my son’s objections to the bitch taking my boy away to another state.

I know those feelings of fear, isolation, lack of direction or no longer having an overarching life’s plan. It may seem that you have had your whole life stolen from you. The past, the present and the future. I can assure this is not the case. The past is done, but the present and future are yours to seize control of and make as you wish. At first it’s difficult taking those first few steps, but once you do it gets easier and easier and soon you will be running ahead at full speed. And yes you will accomplish this, because… One you are a “Man” and Two we’re all here to help you brother.

Try to forget about chasing pussy. It’s just wasted time, energy and money. While you may get some very short term pleasure from getting laid, as stated above you place your health and financial well being at great risk every time just by sticking your manhood into the pussy mouse trap.

My second piece of advice is to engage in “Manly” group activities. Whether it’s some hobby you used to enjoy doing or trying something new for the first time. There are all kinds of free “meetup groups” on-line all across the country. Just Google your area of interests and away you go.

I joined a conservation club with year round outdoor shooting facilities and also a motorcycle group. Both are male dominated and relatively speaking not too expensive to break into equipment wise. I’ve made some good friends and you are going to find that the vast majority of these guys will have shared your same experiences. You will find yourself welcomed, accepted and have good source of friends.

As a vet you likely remember the feeling of camaraderie and accomplishment when your buddies saw you nail that 300 yard target in the x-ring the first time. That good feeling of accomplishment and a whole host of others that were once taken from you, are still waiting for you out there in the world for you to reclaim. Go for it Man! The brotherhood of MGTOW and just regular “Joe’s” out on the street are going to show you the way!

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

Not sure if I’m lucky in this or just my kids, but my new apartment is like 400yrds from my ex’s apartment. So, the kids can easily walk back and forth, but it’s almost too close for me.

I’ve only been there (I’m fishing at the moment), for two weeks now. I’ve spent the last four months sleeping on the floor at my brothers place. He’s just a young kid, and the couch “belonged” to his girlfriend, so I got the floor. So, with this new adjustment, and finding out my ex was taking dick at the same time she’s looking to keep this gravy train running, really got to me Saturday morning. That, and I girl I had hopes with, was just keeping me as backup or something, and she forgot my birthday, so I told her to kick rocks.

But…. I did have something GREAT to share. You guys are gonna love this.

So, back after the first time we split, we got back together and one thing she wanted to do was marriage counseling. Which turned into accelerated divorce counseling, so we both did individual therapy instead. BUT, here’s the awesome part that may make some of your heads explode, I know mine did……

During our first session, things were getting intense, and the counselor (female) really egged my ex on, having her get everything off her chest. A topic came up that at the time, I believed to be a lie. Later, it was found to actually BE a lie. The counselor said, “The issue isn’t that she was lying, because you had no proof, only what you thought. The issue is that you don’t trust her enough to believe her lies”.

That really stuck with me. Is that what trusting a woman is about? Turning my back on my gut and intuition enough to believe something that while I can’t prove it, must be a lie?

Count me out.

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[experiencedParticipant]

RegularJough wrote:

Alright. Back home, and I got something to share.
Now, I expect much praise from you guys, just a heads up.
While bowling with my kids, my ex contacted me for a favor. To look at her car. Now, I’ve fixed it once before, and it lead to her not wanting my help and wanting to be independent from me and my many skills. Now, she’s having new car trouble and I told her to have the guy she’s sleeping with fix it for her. I can honestly say on the past I would’ve helped her, just for the kids sake (so I tell myself). But, not this time. She came back with all kinds of hurtful words and insults. Plus guilt trips, playing victim, and saying how awesome of a person she is and how good she’ll take care of her new guy.
I just let it all roll. Didn’t even phase me at all.
I even said I had a new person I was relying on. And she got bent out of shape, so I said it was me, that I’m relying only on myself from now on and I’ll never let myself down.
The kids are going back to her in a couple of hours, then I’m going fishing.
Last week, I was scared of being alone for a week, but somehow, after listening to her bull for a bit today, fishing alone sounds like heaven.

She’s a moron and a manipulator.
“Would you please help me…. find my puppy?” ‘cept instead of a child being molested it’s her trying to financially molest you.
Laydeez know, “I need your help” plays on men’s Achilles heel, their goodness.
Bitch’ll now learn the difference between goodness and weakness the hard way.
Good on you to catch her comeback of trying to make you jealous via boyfriend talk.
Her actions are only confirming in everyone’s mind that she’s full of s~~~.
Keep us posted, not for my replies, but for the other guys’ replies here.
It does a man good to hear no bulls~~~ support from his brothers.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

RegularJough wrote:

The issue is that you don’t trust her enough to believe her lies”.

This is what passes for female logic, reasoning, and professional counseling.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[experiencedParticipant]

RegularJough wrote:

Not sure if I’m lucky in this or just my kids, but my new apartment is like 400yrds from my ex’s apartment. So, the kids can easily walk back and forth, but it’s almost too close for me.

I’ve only been there (I’m fishing at the moment), for two weeks now. I’ve spent the last four months sleeping on the floor at my brothers place. He’s just a young kid, and the couch “belonged” to his girlfriend, so I got the floor. So, with this new adjustment, and finding out my ex was taking dick at the same time she’s looking to keep this gravy train running, really got to me Saturday morning. That, and I girl I had hopes with, was just keeping me as backup or something, and she forgot my birthday, so I told her to kick rocks.

But…. I did have something GREAT to share. You guys are gonna love this.

So, back after the first time we split, we got back together and one thing she wanted to do was marriage counseling. Which turned into accelerated divorce counseling, so we both did individual therapy instead. BUT, here’s the awesome part that may make some of your heads explode, I know mine did……

During our first session, things were getting intense, and the counselor (female) really egged my ex on, having her get everything off her chest. A topic came up that at the time, I believed to be a lie. Later, it was found to actually BE a lie. The counselor said, “The issue isn’t that she was lying, because you had no proof, only what you thought. The issue is that you don’t trust her enough to believe her lies”.

That really stuck with me. Is that what trusting a woman is about? Turning my back on my gut and intuition enough to believe something that while I can’t prove it, must be a lie?

Count me out.

Get a video audio pen recorder NOW! They are cheap economical insurance against what will be coming from such a tramp of high moral standards.

What the F E M A L E marriage counselor said should go into the mgtow hall of fame. They are hired mercenaries who never fail to do their job for the laydee.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Dirtydog73Participant 232]

Anonymous wrote:

Ive always found one of the most “unfair”things in the universe is when you break up with a woman and you are heart broken.Shes out f~~~ing some dude, while women won’t have any thing to do with you.Women won’t touch you when your down and out ,un-confident,heart broken.Its one of the worst places to be in life. What you yearn for..closeness,a best friend,life companion,someone to share things with…all of that doesn’t exist. Sorry. I would go skydiving if I had the b~~~~. But I don’t. Have fun Brother!!

Exactly where I have been .You are not alone in whats going on with this Jough. Mine is 44 and out f~~~in a 28 year old…gonna larf my arse off when it all falls in a heap.Do for yourself what you want to /need to do and also your kids.It does get easier over time ,and the thoughts and sadness will pass..Enjoy your fishing

Fed, Fucked, Appreciated. The three simple things men want, but women will never grasp.

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