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On a lighter note…I just dropped a turd of monumental proportions in my trusty reliable throne at home. Why does dropping a massive deuce make one feel like he could totally conquer the world? Strange phenomenon don’t ya think? I’d be interested in seeing that topic covered on Myth Busters! 🙂
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...I just joined today and have read a lot on this thread, but far from all. I would like to contribute a few simple observations:
The individual who identified Truth as living in one side of his brain has got it dead on. (Personally I don’t much care if Truth is a woman or not. Truth is Truth wherever it is found. Defend what you believe or don’t bother with the thread. Tho I will give you it’s disingenuous if he is really a she.)
I’ve had a strong input of academics, politicians, psychologists, and libs in general in my life. (yes I know, lucky to be coherent) Please note Truth is articulate, excruciatingly verbose, and rattles off as statements of fact this guy is this way and another that instead of recognizing rights to an opinion. This is one of those people who is a combination of traits that is a horribly bad fit in general society. (Not that you’re a bad person Truth, just a dispassionate statement of relevant verity.) He is a typical example of those who are highly intelligent, analytical of detail, and capable of seeing the big picture as well. His mind works wild quick, his computer & tech skills lighting fast, and he has a vast ideological universal system under control in his mind that is accessible and usable synergistic-ally at will. He’d probably make a great president. (for those of you that didn’t get it, that was humorous hyperbole) Thing is, in a social setting he is going to be a virtual outcast in all probability. And the frustrating thing is, he has their best interest at heart. He will always be judged as condescending and holier-than-thou. This will cause the part of his personality that is social to feel emotionally rejected, and forums such as this where he can “help” everybody and he gets to keep talking is an outlet. Here it takes a bunch of you to keep up with just the one. Note as well music is a big thing to him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a hypo-manic bipolar.
So, what we’ve got is an academic, applied sociology/economics/philosophy type that sees a universal, “I can help both you and the women” solution that makes total sense. But what such an individual with such broad palette of usable personality traits with an outsized emphasis on the universal ideal has as an Achilles heel is a rational view of the here and now details in the real world. He is predisposed not to see them because they can’t be crammed into his universal without contaminating its effectiveness. And it is wildly difficult to allow for the possibility of his highly sophisticated construct to be be quite seriously damaged. And its just too emotionally difficult to allow for a such deep injury to our cultural system. Believe me, I know the feeling . It’s why I stayed married to her for 35 years where most of you would have thrown in the towel long before. But, I think here is a good place to consider the words of Admiral James Stockwell, prisoner of war in Vietnam and awarded Congressional Medal of Honor.
<h1 class=”quoteText”>“You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end — which you can never afford to lose — with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.”</h1>
(Sorry about the huge, don’t know how to change it.) The brutal facts are that we do not live in a time when things are about the same as other upswings in history. There has never been a nation where “All men are created equal” by law before. And the authority, not of a despotic ruler, but of a government by the people has been turned on a gender with the force of law. California? No yes with repeats while both are inebriated = malevolent RAPE. (interesting word that) No sir Truth. It is way beyond time when those men who choose a life, and quite arguably a very rational choice, are not condemning society to failure. To quote a former female editor of a conservative magazine, we are at the place where the real effective solution, and rightly so, is that “Our girls will have to fight their girls.”Peeps are Firing bazooka’s an its Still buzzing around…
Just a couple of things…
Jesus titty-f~~~ing Christ.
@keymaster that outburst alone got me rolling man – Dont mind me ..im taking that quote
Here’s something else you weren’t supposed to know, something else I’m mastering that is very useful. Did you know that men are multiorgasmic? Indeed, it is possible to has as many orgasms as you want via the technique of Semen retention. In short, orgasm and ejaculation are 2 *separated* events.
I’ve seen American pie – Finch already taught me that s~~~ a long time ago..
One of the big reasons many women cheat is never being satisfied. Well of course not, because men are never told this or trained how to use it they don’t realize that sex is like a game with many levels that you can only climb with the same person (even if its a different person, they’ll be at a different level with you).
This is where your philosophies and ours dont Gel together Right HERE—> MGTOW don’t participate in the ‘game’.
Thanks guys for your ear, hopefully I’ve helped someone have a lot of the same bright days that I have, peace and love.
Now get your tantric-ass outta here!
My sense of integrity requires the correction. The quote is from Admiral James Stockdale.
I was just reading KeyMaster’s sig and was hit by something that may help more to understand where I’m coming from:
<em class=”d4pbbc-italic”><span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: grey;”>If you push a man around enough…. eventually, “around” becomes “away”.</span>
Beautiful quote. Except that’s not really true is it? This is what I mean about MGTOW being a certain maybe-not-so-beneficial way ONLY IN CERTAIN ways. Because this quote doesn’t accurately reflect men or their behavior. It reflects men and their behavior when WOMEN ARE DOING THE PUSHING. Men are huge pushovers when it comes to women, boy I tell you.
They hit us, cheat on us, lie to us all the time and we still come back for more. But notice in your life…have you ever let a man do that to you? Have you ever in your life taken from a man 1/100 the disrespect you’ve received from a woman? So clearly this quote is wrong it should say
<em class=”d4pbbc-italic”><span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: grey;”>If a WOMAN pushes a man around enough…. eventually, “around” becomes “away”.</span>
What’s the big f~~~ing deal right? Well, what happens if a MAN pushes another man around enough? Is MGTOW a TRICK to make us think we’re fighting women when we’re really fighting other men? Except they’re winning because we’re too stupid to realize we’re being played even though it is the correct move? I guess I’m advocating TRUTH and MGTOW is a pathway to that truth, but not the last stop. How’s that?
Anonymous0I’m talking about ‘CUMMING’ full force orgasm WITHOUT semen loss.No ejaculation.
Oh Honey, don’t worry. I didn’t ejculated but you know while I am f~~~ing you I came ten times in my head.
Tell this to a woman, then you are cured.
CHEERS!!!
What’s the big f~~~ing deal right? Well, what happens if a MAN pushes another man around enough? Is MGTOW a TRICK to make us think we’re fighting women when we’re really fighting other men? Except they’re winning because we’re too stupid to realize we’re being played even though it is the correct move? I guess I’m advocating TRUTH and MGTOW is a pathway to that truth, but not the last stop. How’s that?
@Belltoll I thought he was supposed to be intelligent.
@belltolls that was an excellent psychological synopsis. The sarcasm was also funny. I know it sounds weird to say that, but I actually laughed while reading your post. There is no doubt that I’m a male. I posted a voice recording for Pete’s sake guys. I’ll do it again if you want. I don’t care. But BellTolls, your post while very piercing in its psychological analysis ultimately misses the point; my point is not to SAVE THIS BEAST. MY POINT IS THAT THIS BEAST, AS ITS FINAL MOVE BEFORE IT WIPES US OUT *NOW*, WILL FUND AND PUSH THE MGTOW MOVEMENT TO INCREASE OUR SEPARATION AND OUR *DIVISION*. For divided we fall. Sorry for the caps, but its quite clear I haven’t been clear or explicit enough on what it is I’m actually saying. That’s 85% my fault because this is not a solid thesis, but a synthesis.
My sense of integrity requires the correction. The quote is from Admiral James Stockdale.
Just read your posts in this thread and I must say I like the cut of your jib sir! That was an EXCELLENT, very articulate, and thoughtful analysis! Welcome to the fray good sir!
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...Hollowmile for the win! hmmmmm, john doe doesn’t seem to be posting much…
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheTruth02 wrote:</div>
What’s the big f~~~ing deal right? Well, what happens if a MAN pushes another man around enough? Is MGTOW a TRICK to make us think we’re fighting women when we’re really fighting other men? Except they’re winning because we’re too stupid to realize we’re being played even though it is the correct move? I guess I’m advocating TRUTH and MGTOW is a pathway to that truth, but not the last stop. How’s that?@Belltoll I thought he was supposed to be intelligent.
Do you disagree? Most governments around the world do not. The problem of what to do with single volatile males is heavy on govts minds, especially those looking to prevent revolutions and disposition. You ever notice we never revolt against women? We fought a war and killed tens of thousands for independence from a ‘tea tax’. But it took 40 years of women ACTIVELY, DELIBERATELY plotting to destroy us before we ‘went our own way’. Gee, way to keep your eye on the ball guys. And I’ve never claimed any sort of intelligence besides being active in a STEM field and other minor hobbies.
I brought this up in other threads, MGTOW is about dealing with men and women. The 99.99% of us are heterosexual men so dealing with sex/women/children will naturally be a big part of any conversation. That is why it is such a big subject.
Get guys together and they will talk about religion/philosophy/politics/sports but the top of the list is women. It is actually normal.
If I am correct, “The truth” is attempting to convey, that MGTOW is good but not a be all end all solution. Rather it is a necessary solution for the “now”.
Can we stop with attacking each others character? It is boring to wade through the bulls~~~.
If you push a man around enough…. eventually, “around” becomes “away”.
Beautiful quote. Except that’s not really true is it? This is what I mean about MGTOW being a certain maybe-not-so-beneficial way ONLY IN CERTAIN ways. Because this quote doesn’t accurately reflect men or their behavior. It reflects men and their behavior when WOMEN ARE DOING THE PUSHING. Men are huge pushovers when it comes to women, boy I tell you.
Yes I knew it was only going to be a matter of time before SOMEONE would attempt to pick that apart an interpret it that way – implying MGTOW are MGTOW because we are “pushovers” and allow ourselves to be pushed around.
But that’s dishonest because if observe this clip from Clint Eastwood you’ll get a better understanding….
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Is Clint a pushover? Is he letting a woman push him around??? No. She is pushing, and pushing, and pushing and taking the conversation further than is any of her f~~~ing business…. and what is the result?? The man WALKS AWAY.
MGTOW baby.
He wasn’t bullied. He wasn’t abused or pushed around. He just decided he had enough of the f~~~ing nagging and being told that his choices are WRONG. Like what you did when you walked into this room. Now a few minutes ago you already said you were leaving. This might be a good time instead of flapping your giblets without thinking.
Really enjoyed what BELLTOLLS had to say. Welcome to MGTOW. Way to make an entrance.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@BellToll, one thing about your characterisation that is not correct. I am not an academic. I am not someone who has no real life experience. I’ve slept with more women than the average man will sleep with in his life (avg. = ~9). I’m popular enough and have plenty of friends. And I don’t believe that I’m strictly left-brained. Indeed, it took a great deal of empathy for me to remain here and continue to post what I feel to be important information. I do not know much about the left/right brain paradigm, or the INTJ stuff, but I know that I have the ability (as do we all) to ‘move my mind’ down the spectrum to the other side. Life was not meant to be spent in front of a screen nursing the scars the beast gave you. How many other ways can I say this before you guys get where I’m going….KILL THE F~~~ING BEAST!
Anonymous0I just did tell, when I joined the thread…..
Правда wrote: First let me start off by saying I’m a man, not a woman.
A Revelation…Ring Ring goes the bell…..
He wasn’t bullied. He wasn’t abused or pushed around. He just decided he had enough of the f~~~ing naggi
But you missed the point my friend. The point was he *walked away*. He didn’t knock her out, he didn’t shoot her. If a *man* was in his face bothering him (of course, a man wouldn’tve been so ‘sweet’ about it as that nun was trying to be), especially during that era, it would’ve been a duel and body bag. Get it? Men treat women differently than they treat men. They react to provocations differently with women than with men. What if someone figured that out a long time ago?
What if A MAN wanted to circumvent your natural MALE reaction to his overstepping his boundaries LIKE ON YOUR SOVEREIGN FREEDOMS, so he HID in the woman? Offering her cash and prizes to take revenge on a fictional debasement of her gender? Would you still go your own way knowing you were playing right into some OTHER MAN’s plan for you? Or, asked another way, would you be on your knees following gun control?
P.s. I said I was leaving because I thought I broke a rule, and I will leave if asked. But I’m here for a reason. I honestly know that nothing will come of this. As Soul Man (I believe) said above, we have to accept our fate no matter how bleak. This I’ve made peace with. But the thought that I could be right and I stood by while my brothers were marshalled into hell is one I cannot abide, so I will stay until either banned/requested to leave or this desire to share the truth I’ve discovered so far abates.
John, I never attacked your character man. I said post away. go read all the posts guys made after you stood up for this troll and called me a monkey after that. f~~~ing hilarious. i’ll always remember you by this thread for the laughs thanks man and cheers! Out for now!
Actually the thread wasn’t bad, until everyone started calling each other a girl. What could have been 2 pages will now end up 5 plus. Bell tolls assessment seem correct, for the most part.
Life was not meant to be spent in front of a screen nursing the scars the beast gave you.
Thats’ right and that’s why it took me until today to reply to your s~~~. Because we were f~~~ing BUSY preparing for International MGTOW Day.
KILL THE F~~~ING BEAST!
No need. The beast has already committed suicide. And we are going to PARTY.
But you missed the point my friend. The point was he *walked away*. He didn’t knock her out, he didn’t shoot her.
Why would he knock her out or shoot her?
Are you f~~~ing MAD?She’s as non-threatening as a housefly buzzing around your head. You don’t waste a bullet on that. You’re telling other people they missed your point, but you would take out a gun and shoot a mosquito.
Other people haven’t missed your point.
I’m still waiting for you to MAKE one.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Ok Truth….
As succinctly as possible what is YOUR solution? Legislative process? Activism? Violence?
Legislative process? Yeah good luck…the process is horribly broken. The common man’s voice has been impotent in the context of government for a very long time. You must have adequate monetary resources to buy the level of justice you seek then even more money to sustain that justice.
Activism? Maybe that’s what “the Man” really wants us to do…all march around with signs bitching and moaning as they laugh at us from their ivory towers. Meanwhile they toss us a token bone e.g. only confiscate 19.5% of your net income instead of 20% for child support. Then we men boast about how we “won” a victory when we didn’t win s~~~. See the “laughing from their ivory towers” previously mentioned.
Violence? Again, perhaps that’s exactly what “the Man” wants so he can violently and thoroughly usurp by overwhelming force what little freedom we have left.
In 50 words or less distill your solution to the problem. Remember, brevity is your friend here if you want anyone to entertain your thoughts.
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