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1. I am a male. I am a male. I. AM. A. MALE.
I don’t care. Being male entitles you to nothing not credibility, not free entitlements, not respect. You should already know that in the real world. It’s up to every man to earn his way out of worthlessness and saying “I am male” counts for jack s~~~.
I PROVED IT. I posted a voice clip of me speaking and will do so again if requested, ad naseum. I. AM. A F~~~ING MAN.
It doesn’t f~~~ing MATTER. You can still be WRONG.
Save your energy for proving the point.3. I registered with a temporary email address (hence the new account). I find linking personal email to a website to be a privacy invasion in the post-Snowden era, limited hangout as it might be.
Oh so you signed up with a FAKE ADDRESS ? That should get this thread deleted. An interesting approach to begin with a misrepresentation like that. An email address is the only identifier for our users. We don’t ask for a name, phone number, address, or credit card. Only an email which is a way to reach you. If you refuse to give that, you deserve to be EJECTED.
Don’t sign up with multiple accounts. And you will pick another handle because you’re not “the truth”.
You’re just a fraud poser who signed up with a temporary email.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I was trying to find one thing among those paragraphs worth discussing! So I picked the first one:
OK. So since great effort has gone into it’s destruction, how arrogant are you to assume that YOU can fix it? The same arrogance that made you call yourself “The Truth”??? MGTOW isn’t letting the system burn. They/the system/feminists have burned it down themselves and they have made every effort to ensure that outcome – even backed by funding. You think MGTOW are interested in being firefighters? If an arsonist is going to deliberately destroy their own building in an afternoon – which took thousands of men years to build – I’m not going to walk into that blaze…. I’m going to THE BEACH. Are you suggesting we all go rebuild DETROIT?? No war, no bombs…. but it exploded from the INSIDE, man. Men are not going to build it TWICE for the ungrateful c~~~s who already watched it be built ONCE and then set out to destroy it and take everything men have done for granted. I am speaking figuratively about all things feminism sought to destroy…. including the civilization that men have fought and died to create and defend. F~~~ YOU for suggesting MGTOW should do a goddam thing and “FIX” their s~~~. I’m not building a sandcastle and then building it OVER AGAIN after some hateful little c~~~ kicks it down. Go “fix” it yourself. What’s next for the survivors? They will build it themselves. Men are not going to do it AGAIN. If a feminist wants to take a s~~~ in anything other than a hole in the ground that she dug herself…. she can invent a toilet, she can pump the water into the bathroom, she can discover electricity and find a way to bring it into her her home that she built all by herself, so that she can have enough light to wipe her own ass with her HANDS because there are no men willing to sell her toilet paper anymore. Kapeesh? “Men going their own way” is THE PERFECT name for it.
You’re not understanding me. I’m saying that men and women have been pitted against each other. MGTOW is the reaction to female destruction. But consider the possibility that females aren’t naturally this destructive. Consider the possilibity we’ve created a system to incentivize the worst female traits, and deincentivize the best.
Can you imagine a scenario where men get all that they want and women barely get anything? That is an ideal situation for the men’s point of view in terms of getting as many women as one might want. But from a female perspective its horrible. Well that’s what’s happening but in reverse. Someone tipped the scales in female favor so that we would get nothing and eventually get p~~~ed and fully tip the scale by ‘going our own way’.
Now, if women are the only enemy we have to worry about, then GREAT! Evil society destroyed! C~~~s be damned men win again! Beers?? Right? But women might *not* be the only enemy. The enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend. Perhaps that enemy wants us both gone and will split us up to do it. So mgtow comes along all shows this great new lifestyle (it is how men are meant to live). But it doesn’t really solve the problem. Its reactionary. It doesn’t look at history. It doesn’t ask simple questions:
1. How comes our forefathers didn’t GTOW?
2. Its clear the only way marriage has been able to perpetuate itself is because men weren’t abreast of the true horror. But look at how quickly that knowledge lead to change. How is it possible that civilization could exist for all these thousands of years yet not ONE mention of a similar movement? Conversely, if such a movement is mentioned in history, why does it always take so long for men to realize ‘the truth’?
3. I submit to you that our current male/female relations including marriage are fraudulent. What’s more, I submit they are deliberately designed to favor the woman and both increase her promiscuity and also decrease her happiness perpetually feeding the hypergamy gene.
4. One thing always bothered me. Women from other societies aren’t this way. Universally. They grow up and don’t mind living in absolute poverty. They are truly happy surrounded by family and friends. Yet when they come here they all change. This is proof of AWALT. I agree it is, but my question is … like what?
5. When we say AWALT, we don’t define ‘what way’ they are like. Sure we associate it with certain actions like cheating (“pshh AWALT!”) or hypergamy (“Goldigger…AWALT!”). In other words, we don’t see that this society is artificial and the ‘way’ that women are is WHOLLY dependent on context…just like with us. You see when you live in a society that promotes love, friendship, companionship and spirituality over materialism (whether it be love of money or cars, or just love of the ‘material’ world like an obsession with sex), you get women and men who need and complement each other.
6. There is another reason why I chose the name ‘TheTruth’. In my research, the answers to some/many questions are nearly unpalatable, especially if you’re still in the matrix (sadly most MGTOW still seem to be, though quite a few here are not or seem close to leaving. This is just an opinion not some omnipotent declaration or anything. One thing wrong with losing ego is, because you never feel/surpress the need to impress or show bravado, when you speak plainly of your abilities and the capabilities of others, it can seem arrogant. Of course, that is actually the ego of the listener, but I digress). TheTruth is not pretty gentlemen. It contradicts everything I was taught about life in general. The shift in my perspective from 2 years ago is immense; however, the new skills and power I’ve gained from this information is also substantial, I can see why it was hidden from us.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheTruth02 wrote:</div>
1. I am a male. I am a male. I. AM. A. MALE.I don’t care. Being male entitles you to nothing not credibility, not free entitlements, not respect. You should already know that in the real world. It’s up to every man to earn his way out of worthlessness and saying “I am male” counts for jack s~~~.
I wasn’t talking to you. Another poster intimated I was female. Again, even after I proved I was not. Your rebuttal is ignorant.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheTruth02 wrote:</div>
I PROVED IT. I posted a voice clip of me speaking and will do so again if requested, ad naseum. I. AM. A F~~~ING MAN.It doesn’t f~~~ing MATTER. You can still be WRONG. Save your energy for proving the point.
I wasn’t talking to you. Another poster intimated I was female. Again, even after I proved I was not. Your rebuttal is ignorant.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheTruth02 wrote:</div>
3. I registered with a temporary email address (hence the new account). I find linking personal email to a website to be a privacy invasion in the post-Snowden era, limited hangout as it might be.Oh so you signed up with a FAKE ADDRESS ? That should get this thread deleted. An interesting approach to begin with a misrepresentation like that. An email address is the only identifier for our users. We don’t ask for a name, phone number, address, or credit card. Only an email which is a way to reach you. If you refuse to give that, you deserve to be EJECTED. Don’t sign up with multiple accounts. And you will pick another handle because you’re not “the truth”. You’re just a fraud poser who signed up with a temporary email.
I did NOT know this was against the rules. I will cease to post again, I will not sign up again and I will consider this an amicable parting. But I have a favor to ask: please consider this topic seriously. I’m presenting a simple argument that any MGTOW should be able to understand:
1. Feminism wasn’t created by women, but by men (talk about a HUGE RED FLAG there)
2. Feminism destroyed this society. Good go away.
3. MGTOW rises.
*my argument*
4. Hey guys, what if we are doing exactly what they want us to? I’m not even talking about dropping out, because dropping out is the only way to remain sane as a man. I’m talking about what if the herbivores, mgtow etc. are not *spontaneous* reactions to the same thing? What if they are the cause of the convergence of several factors uniquely targeted to each population to cause distrust and non-union? Its been pointed out that herbivores are not really all GTOW for the same reasons we are. They saw their dads work to death for nothing and don’t want that. We saw our dads raped in court for nothing and don’t want that. But who raped them? Who over worked them? GET IT???
Hint: *it wasn’t women*. Women were the carrot, the just-us system was the stick, but who was the puppet-master, against whom our ire should be directed? I find it funny that we often hate and shy away from the commoners who do us wrong daily, but when someone who is rich does it we break out the lube. Its cringeworthy, like Carson Daly trying to sound black on TRL (Old school MTV for you youngins lol). Sycophantic. We’re so ready to throw up our hands and not fight for anything (jeez wonder how they managed to pull that off), when its NEVER BEEN easier to fight for your freedom.
People who mention the divorce courts and child-support etc. I would like a small reality check for these individuals. Did you know you had to CHOOSE to be involved in that s~~~? Do you also know that in times past YOUR RAPING WOULD’VE been much more painful and ENTIERLY non-voluntary. Yet we have no problem just throwing women under the bus like that’s the solution. Don’t get me wrong, traitors should be thrown under the bus. But do you really think that those who did this are through with you?
Do you think those who could dream up such a sick and predatory system, would just stop once they got you to go your own way? These are the things I’m asking you to consider. I don’t want you to become feminists, I don’t want you to get a girlfriend, I don’t want you to get a f~~~ing puppy. I want us to consider our course of action individually. In your heart some of you are resonating with what I’m saying, because your hearts are still open. These are spiritual words for spiritual times.
See my hand when it does this? It means I don’t give a f~~~….. yeah that’s right my hand is doing it again.
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
Maybe if I put it this way some will see what I mean: what would your answer be if I asked for a plan to cause a bloodless/uncontested takeover of a country? What would you come up with?
Anonymous0@MG-Tower
As for myself, If I catch a unicorn, I WILL f~~~ing eat it! And use its horn to shove up your ass!
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@Правда
Take a seat here….no need to fasten your seat belt
seriously, does Smitty have to choke a bitch?
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
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welcome new member “I am not a woman” to the forums!!!!
Maybe if I put it this way some will see what I mean: what would your answer be if I asked for a plan to cause a bloodless/uncontested takeover of a country? What would you come up with?
So you are saying their plan is to create a nation/generation of unattached, single men that have grown disillusioned by societies expectations on them. Sounds like a great plan …
To me, more likely, is that they attempted to use the female as a conduit to manipulate the male. And by going our own way, we avoid the manipulation of what society tells women to tell me to do. And they didn’t expect men to ever, ever say, you know what, I don’t even need a women. That is my thinking and how I ended up on this website. You obviously have a different take.
I wasn’t talking to you.
So? I was talking to YOU.
I did NOT know this was against the rules.
It’s not against “the rules”. It’s against an unspoken code of honor which MGTOW already have and understand. We have 5400 members, and you know how many of them used a fake /undeliverable address? Virtually none.
Women and feminists have tried to sign up with fake addresses… but of all the MALE MGTOW MEMBERS, I am very proud to tell you they have extended us the MINIMUM amount of respect and courtesy. By using a fake email when signing up you are INSULTING mgtow.com. You think YOU are bigger than the website you’re posting on – as if the email to signup doesn’t matter, but everything you have to say is f~~~ing gospel and should be taken seriously. You want to be able to log in , redecorate, redefine and tell everyone they are wrong…. but you think the very website you post on wanting ONLY your email is “invading your privacy”.
Jesus titty-f~~~ing Christ.
That’s like taking “the truth” and f~~~ing spitting on it.THETRUTH and THETRUTH02 are you kidding?
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Ok guys, its clear my message is not welcome here. But, I will leave you with a parting gift to show you I’m not bulls~~~ting you. Here’s something else you weren’t supposed to know, something else I’m mastering that is very useful. Did you know that men are multiorgasmic? Indeed, it is possible to has as many orgasms as you want via the technique of Semen retention. In short, orgasm and ejaculation are 2 *separated* events.
With training you can learn to separate these events. Why should you care? Because *only ejaculation tires you and wastes your energy*. You can (as I’ve done) have 25 consecutive orgasms without spilling a drop or needing any refreshment. The elites have known about this for centuries, but you were not thought needed to know. You were only supposed to use sex for procreation. How do you think king David et al serviced all them wives? That’s how. You can literally be with 15 women a night without breaking a sweat.
One of the big reasons many women cheat is never being satisfied. Well of course not, because men are never told this or trained how to use it they don’t realize that sex is like a game with many levels that you can only climb with the same person (even if its a different person, they’ll be at a different level with you). You can look this info up, hopefully that piques your interest for the truth. Most people don’t realize that they say you need to think outside the box, BECAUSE OUR MINDS ARE IN BOXES AND CAN’T SEE THE TRUTH. Thanks guys for your ear, hopefully I’ve helped someone have a lot of the same bright days that I have, peace and love.
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THETRUTH and THETRUTH02 are you kidding?
HAHAH..now we have two truths…Правда and Правда02…ohoh…let this hear the russians.
This thread was interesting for the first few posts.
It shouldn’t have went past a page or two.
Everyone chill out already. You know this thread needs to chill out when an instigator, such as myself, says its too much. I enjoy a lively debate, but s~~~…………..
Agent Crunch. One more nuke should do it.
Maybe if I put it this way some will see what I mean: what would your answer be if I asked for a plan to cause a bloodless/uncontested takeover of a country? What would you come up with?
I get it. Feminism was a contrived control mechanism created and born of the elite as a way to get the other 50% of the populous paying taxes in to the machine among other things. I hold that it was never about women’s rights. Women have been and continue to be the “useful idiots”. Feminism was merely a weapon among many in a cultural Marxist velvet revolution. That’s painfully obvious and this leviathan has entrenched its tentacles in to every aspect of our daily lives. That is total control. What I am saying is the only viable solution for the forseeable future is to starve that leviathan by refusing to be an integral part of its machine; the disposable male. I think that’s what we are doing here at MGTOW.com. The only other viable alternative to throw off the chains of leviathan is something I won’t speak of since it’s not a particularly popular course of action and too many find the alternative option distatseful.
As for women…I do think that’s EXACTLY how they are in their true nature. All restraint has been removed so they will do what they do because no one is telling them “No!” just as a child made of pure “Id” would do.. Contrast that with most men I know and the men will almost always do what is just and moral without anyone but their own conscience telling them to do so.
YMMV…
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...
Anonymous0@Правда and Правда02
I am a male. I am a male. I. AM. A. MALE…I AM A MULE…I AM A FEMULE
LOL
Ok guys, its clear my message is not welcome here.
Your MESSAGE was “I Believe MGTOW to be wrong, or at least, misnamed”.
Did you expect a f~~~ing HUG?Did you know that men are multiorgasmic? orgasm and ejaculation are 2 *separated* events
Yes it’s called “edging”. You’re just figuring this out now?
Why don’t you go sign up with a fake email at MultiOrgasmicMen.com – or MOM for short.You can literally be with 15 women a night without breaking a sweat.
Who the f~~~ would want that? By holding back your orgasm all you’re doing is satisfying THEM. MGTOW got no interest in buying 15 dinners or lying to 15 women to give them what THEY want.
Men have a need and desire to ejac like we need to take a p~~~. I have no interest in peeing in 15 different toilets either. Just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD. I could pinch a loaf 1/2-way in the middle of a s~~~ too and then go to another bathroom and push the rest out. But that’s f~~~ing dumb.
The entire point of f~~~ing is to get your nut. Not to pleasure HER. Or 15 women.
When in history was ONE woman ever satisfied? What idiot would care about 15 of them?Until she buys drinks and dinner, pays for the movie, picks me up and drops me off at home, tips the valet like a Rockafeller and sucks me to completion like a Hoover…… MGTOW don’t give a F~~~ about the female orgasm.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I will reply to you because you seem intent on contending with me. More importantly, you are leading men astray in the following post.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheTruth02 wrote:</div>
Ok guys, its clear my message is not welcome here.So? I was talking to YOU.
Ok, so you admit your reply was ignorant then. Good. It is foolish to chastise for wanting to prove my malehood when 2 posters on this page claim I’m female, after having posted proof of my gender. Since you admit your ignorance, I dismiss out-of-hand your entire comment here and the one before it.
Your MESSAGE was “I Believe MGTOW to be wrong, or at least, misnamed”.
Did you expect a f~~~ing HUG?
It’d be nice, love is awesome. Sadly most people are as unloving and hostile as you are these days. With any luck I’ll be able to turn some of that around.
Did you know that men are multiorgasmic? orgasm and ejaculation are 2 *separated* eventsYes it’s called “edging”. You’re just figuring this out now? Why don’t you go sign up with a fake email at MultiOrgasmicMen.com – or MOM for short.
No, I will not allow you to lie. ‘Edging’ is completely different. I’m talking about ‘CUMMING’ full force orgasm WITHOUT semen loss. No ejaculation. I don’t know about you, but as a straight man the idea of 15 orgasms with as many/few women as a want while no energy loss sounds like fun to me. To each his own.
You can literally be with 15 women a night without breaking a sweat.
Men have a need and desire to ejac like we need to take a p~~~. I have no interest in peeing in 15 different toilets either. Just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD. I could pinch a loaf 1/2-way in the middle of a s~~~ too and then go to another bathroom and push the rest out. But that’s f~~~ing dumb.
This is called being a fool. Not you in particular, but this mindset. Who among you having food for a week would eat it all in a day? YOU CAN’T GET THE ENERGY YOU SPEND BACK. That’s why its important to save it and re purpose it, though I fear this message will also be lost to your hostility and irrational suspicions.
Your humorlessness is not my problem.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.- AuthorPosts
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