Hesitant MGTOW

[AutoliteParticipant]

Viyzed wrote:

Well it is male nature to want to provide for women.

Yeah, you wanna try and fight that. The government and the divorce courts have that pretty much covered anyway. Men will be providing for women whether it’s their “nature” or not…

[HitmanParticipant]

Viyzed wrote:

Well it is male nature to want to provide for women.

that my friend , will kill you.
provide for yourself.
feminism doesn’t want you to do anything,
except be a disposable utility.
in other word’s..
a walking A.T.M. machine,
dishing out cash for nothing in return.
..
please don’t volunteer to be robbed blind.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Its a shame that we live in a World where, if a Man wants to take a more taditional path in life the odds are so stacked against him.
Your young. Take your time.
Observe life for a while.

Observe life and heed what you’re being told. Myself and most of us here have had to figure out how things really are on our own reference women and relations~~~s. We didn’t have anyone telling us what we’re telling you here now. You have an advantage that most of us never had.

Understand and appreciate this…

[ViyzedParticipant 24]

It does seem like I’ve simply been observing for the majority of my life already. One can only be complacent for so long.

Thank you for all the advice though. I shall take it to heart.

[Y_Participant 4591]

You need to decide for yourself. This is something no one can force you into. If you have not reached MGTOW yourself than you have no reason to make a decision like this. I say this without malice and with a lot of regret.

Like everything else knowledge is the key. You do not need to be stabbed to know knives can be dangerous.

You have been told HUGE lies that it is men’s nature to provide for women – that is feminist fiction and propaganda. Men’s real nature has nothing to do with women. That is the truth that society has not told you and never will.

In our case there is no quarter given. Females demand our enslavement for their needs. We men make a conscious choice to keep our freedoms and lives our own regardless.

It may be you need to see for yourself what this means. I hope the experience does not destroy your life. Peace.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

I see MGTOW as choosing a path in life and keeping control. In other words it’s more than dating or not dating.

Monk Mode or Ghosting vs Dating and skipping around town visiting every club you can find .. it does’t matter really how you travel as long as you can keep control of your current life and destiny.
There are lots of hidden traps out there.

It’s a good path if it’s your own and you can keep control of your own future. Have fun no matter which road you choose. Just don’t give control of your life away, emotionally, financially or legally .. no way, no how.

Be vigilant and hold on to the reigns of your future. Not letting any one else take them away, that’s the important bit .. and potentially the ‘sometimes’ tricky bit.

[Anonymous 13]

Welcome.

I have never been involved in a fatal car crash.

Even without that experience, I still know it’s a very bad thing.

You have never been involved with female nature….get the idea?

Stay. The. F~~~. Away. From. Female. Nature.

[joetechParticipant]

Going MGTOW is NOT taking the easy road. You’ll be pressured at every turn in your life to ‘find a nice girl and settle down’. Do you think avoiding walking through a burning building shows weakness or the realization that your body wasn’t meant to be thrown into fire? Divorce can be a gauntlet, and the only way to avoid it is to not get married or cohabitate with a calculating member of the opposite sex. Women your age are so ’empowered’ nowadays they should be able to take care of themselves. Be wary of women who ask, “Don’t you want children, a family?” If you want kids, hang out with your nieces and nephews. Watch how your siblings are treated by their spouses. Every time you jack off to porn, hand yourself $50 and stick it into a mutual fund. When you’re in your 60’s you can retire to Tahiti or somewhere nice and f~~~ all the hot poon you want. By then you’ll know how to protect yourself. Then, you can have the last laugh. God, how I wish I was you, but then I was you in the 70’s. I coulda, woulda, shoulda, but I didn’t so now I don’t. You’ve got your whole life ahead of you. Don’t throw it away on a used car ad that’s nothing but bulls~~~. Stay single and free.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Click on the link in SpirtRR’s signature. Some of your reticence may magically vanish.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 43]

never had a gf, no divorce court etc….

TRADESIES!!!!!

I’ll trade you your life for mine for an hour amigo. Just an hour please? Pleeeeeeeeze?

omg I would love to breath free air for just an hour, not have memories and nightmares, fears, insecurities. all the bulls~~~ magically rinsed away.

and for that hour you will add 27 years of misery, bittersweet memory of lost children, injury, pain, woe, 100 extra pounds of worry weight, wisdom and experience your friends only wish they had. You will experience the yoke of the State Disbursement Unit sending you letters every month because the payout date is the 15th, and I don’t get paid until the 22th of the month. It’s the same threat every month…driving license suspension, professional license revocation, threats, innuendos, ultimatums, court appearance, fines, arrest yada yada yada. Ever been homeless? I’ve been homeless or living in a car 3 times in 6 years. I lived in a tent for 5 months. I showed up to job interviews in my suit smelling like campfire a couple times…lol I can’t stand to be in buildings anymore. I feel like I don’t belong in buildings.

You trade with me for an hour, and you will never look at a woman other than as someone in your way, or a potential enemy.

I love that at 20 you figured out that women are s~~~. God bless you amigo.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, Viyzed
Beer’s in the fridge

You’ve talked about what everyone else wants for you!
What do YOU want?
Who are YOU?
Where do YOU want to go in YOUR life?
What are YOUR goals?
See, that wasn’t hard.

No doubt this sounds selfish but only because you have listened to twenty something years of feminist indoctrination. Get away from them and find out who you are. Then MGTOW will either make sense to you or it won’t.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Viyzed wrote:
Well it is male nature to want to provide for women.

Is it? Maybe it was programming that made you feel that way.
What if you your 100% wrong and you were just taught from birth and never questioned it.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[AttonParticipant]

I can’t really say I’m making a logical decision because I’ve never experienced female nature

You don’t need to touch fire to know that it is really hot.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[SilverOneParticipant 440]

Viyzed wrote:

For one who’s never suffered the consequences of a feminised society I mean. I can’t say that if I gave up before even trying, that it would wouldn’t be a blight on my character.

When you were a kid, did anyone ever tell you not to touch the stove or play with fire? Were you coward till you did? What did you think afterward?
I know about the hormonal drive of youth. Still not entirely immune at 61. And hey, if you play and get burned, welcome to the club. I didn’t learn till after 60. Playing is a choice, but if you play, play smart. Keep your eyes open for the signs and portents, and don’t get trapped. You probably won’t come out unscathed, but if you play smart, you won’t lose everything either. Welcome to da house!

I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

[Anonymous 0]

Viyzed wrote:

I’ve grown up in a hyper feminised country. I was never really taught what it meant to be a man, other than it was a terrible thing to be (thankfully I had a great dad). I think, in a way, I’ve been neutered. I’ve constantly got my head down, constantly ashamed of something (no idea what) and I’ve got no confidence at all. I don’t like blaming any of this on “society”, I think that’s just a way of me avoiding personal responsibility and hindering me from bettering myself.

I’m young. Early twenties in fact. I haven’t been through the trails of divorce, discrimination in the workplace, or the courts. I’ve never experienced female nature for myself; I’ve never even had a girlfriend: this is the crux of the issue. I’m tempted by MGTOW, but it just seems like the easy way out. I can’t really say I’m making a logical decision because I’ve never experienced female nature, not really. If I choose MGTOW, it will just be me choosing out of spite; an excuse for my own timid nature and weakness. I never had the courage to even ask a girl out. Sure I’ve been shouted around a bit by feminist teachers, but if I choose aside from that, I really haven’t had much contact with the opposite sex (at least not my own age).

If I choose MGTOW, is that not just a sign of poor character: to give up on the opposite sex after almost no experience and so little resistance?

What does MGTOW think?

Not totally committed to the MGTOW yet? There are a couple ways to go.

1) Easiest way is to study up on the deceits of women and simply avoid them as much as possible:

–You can find an on-line version of the classic “The Manipulated Man” here: http://www.naturalthinker.net/trl/texts/Vilar,Esther/The_manipulated_man.pdf

–Others can provide you with their favorite reading material. And there are libraries of Red Pill (anti-feminist) videos on-line. People will provide you with their favorites if asked.

–And then, of course, visiting MGTOW.com on a regular basis will help provide some focus.

2) If you can’t avoid women or don’t want to, then I would suggest learning a little PUA-style “Game.” It’s still Red Pill (anti-feminist), but it allows for more interaction with women.

Example:

You run into an occasional woman who is wildly attractive and embodies all your ideals. If all you know is a Blue Pill (feminist) approach to relationships, then such a woman is going to be dangerous because she threatens to pull you into a typical Blue Pill relationship. And those always end badly. But if you know some PUA-style Red Pill (anti-feminist) approaches to relationships, there’s no danger. You play the relationship like a finely-tuned violin, extracting the best from it and “controlling the negatives.”

PUA folks talk about “Game,” which more or less equates to how Red Pill men deal with women in relationships. At first, “Game” was simply about scoring with chicks. But over time it has grown into a bigger framework, an antidote to “the negative, shameful and ridiculous archetypes that 60 years of feminization had convinced women and men of,” and it reinterprets masculinity as something positive, beneficial, and competent.

It’s about setting limits and keeping women at arm’s length even as you enjoy their company and relationships. Imbibe a little “Game” of your own, and you won’t get sucked into the women’s “game.” You’ll focus on what you bring to the table instead of getting seduced by what they bring to the table.

These days, I myself am MGTOW. But even if you never use the PUA info, it’s good to read up on it. You get that additional info on how relationships really work, what makes them dangerous, and how to neutralize that danger.

For more on this subject, I recommend Rollo Tomassi’s first book, “The Rational Male.” See the following thread for more on this subject: /forums/topic/the-awarness-rollo-t-blog/#post-374161

[Anonymous 54]

Viyzed wrote:

It does seem like I’ve simply been observing for the majority of my life already. One can only be complacent for so long.

Oh I know. Im not one for sitting on the sidelines.
Just allways think in terms of risk management.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Viyzed wrote:

If I choose MGTOW, is that not just a sign of poor character: to give up on the opposite sex after almost no experience and so little resistance?

Fine go f~~~ing suck some c~~~ and get your dick wet then come back to us and tell us how you felt about it then.

Now my question is what is enough female contact for you to be statisfied and decide to go your own way? do you want 1 date? 3 dates? 10 dates? a long term relationship? a marriage? a couple of marriages? what do you need to decide on the issue?

Go f~~~ and suck all the pussy you want i don’t give a s~~~ but i do not want you to come back in a few months after failing a relationship telling us how you are gonna try again because not enough experience with women etc.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[bladeParticipant]

Easy way out . Yams said it well . X

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

So why are you saying turning mgtow is the easy way out . X

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 1]

Viyzed wrote:

If I choose MGTOW, is that not just a sign of poor character: to give up on the opposite sex after almost no experience and so little resistance?

This is exactly the way of thinking that feminized world embedded in us. Having a great character NEVER depends on other people, and thus NEVER defined by the existance of opposite sex in your life.

Great character is: you don’t complain, you make your life yourself, you know what you want in life and strife to get it. Girlfriends and wives don’t define you as a person. What you like, what you do, is what define you.

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