Christian/Religious MGTOW is it possible?!

[Anonymous 11]

Anonymous wrote:

I’ve been having conflicts with me and the Church. Once I save up enough money, I feel like I won’t go to church anymore, not because of selfish reasons, but because our interests are getting farther and farther apart.

Same thing here, church gives me the creeps, I would rather a gathering with discussion than a preacher in a pulpit. Besides that every time I stumble into to church holding a quart of whiskey I can never make it past the ushers.

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

And here is the final word we have all been looking for:

http://markymarksthoughts.blogspot.com/2013/09/according-to-bible-women-are-incapable.html

If King Solomon, the wisest man to ever live could not find a good woman 6000 years ago, there sure as hell aren’t any now.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Whether you take the Bible seriously or not, that Solomon quote is some serious s~~~.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Lets examine a few facts given explanation .

Man was created to bear the image and LIKENESS of God.

God called for man to have Dominion over Animals. The two serve absolutely different purpouses.This Will be explained.

He created Man and Women . The Dual Sexuality of man.

Man is a generic Term for human beings.

God calls the human race generically “man” because God beilieves in male headship.
Disagreement impunes Gods Goodness and Wisdom.

The male and female relationship serves the purpouses of God not the sinful purpouses of one individual.

God said it was NOT GOOD FOR MAN TO BE ALONE. It isnt.
God said ” i will make a HELPER suitable for him.
This is what God saw not man.

Adam had to name animals, and thoughtfully consider their nature when doing so. considering their names and nature adam and grew lonely. None shared his nature or purpouse.Loving an animal is on an animals level.

Heres a zinger. God created Women to help man not for a man to help Women.

A man is to love a Wife by accepting the Primary responsibility by making their partnership a platform displaying Gods glory, and a wife is to love her husband by supporting him in the Godly undertaking.

Men and women are Spiritually equal, not their roles.God created them differently.God expects men to be men and women to be Women and HE TEACHS the meaning of each.Sexual Identity defines who we are and for what purpouse.

Eve was adams equal in the only sense in which equality is significant for personal worth. This might need to be re-read to understand it.

Women was named instantaneous to her counterpart to man. Let where naming orinated from to sink in.

Lets just say we as men no longer have a choice unless a women listens.

I beilieve if you truly have no choice but the choice is found faulty in another they are the ones blamed?

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

I’ll say it like this is rejecting a sinfull women who choses not to help her husband wrong ,no. She picked her side. Shes a child of satan who can only do harm and displays anything but love for a man.

To a higher degree femminism is satanic.As a man of God stay away, God doesnt want it for you.

If you want a TRULY Godly women PRAY.If there is one you’ll get your answer from God, clearly.If you dont you have your answer from the creator himself.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

TYE wrote:

most religions aim to unite men, and women

Unite? Or be a obedient wage slave for the wife? Must have heard your sermons wrong. Or I’m unnaturally suspicious and constantly looking for the hidden angle.

[QuellParticipant 2557]

I was raised Catholic and have not gone to church in ages.

I went through a period of my life where I was lost and sought out some newer more modern churches. (Rock Band, Coffee etc…) I found them to be really over the top and it didn’t sit with me well so I stopped going again.

In recent years I have lost a considerable amount of interest in God or any higher.

However, I’ve become interested in quantum physics which led me back to a path way that there is higher power.

I have adopted the computer simulation theory. We are all just a simulation with conscienceness and one day we too will have the computing power to generate simulations of our own. Most of life is scripted with periods of adaption from our predestined pathways. Hence why almost everyone has deja vu at one point in our lives.

We very well could be a simulation inside a simulation inside a simulation.

My point is that every MGTOW is going their own path to find whatever meaning they choose for their own lives. For some it might be contemplating the Universe. For others it may be fishing on a Sunday afternoon. Religion most definitely can be a part of a MGTOWs journey if you choose that pathway for yourself.

[Anonymous 0]

I think red pill is red pill regardless of your religion type. As a Christian I see red pill reality in the framework of the bible. And it fits in rather nicely, from Solomon in the Old Testament warning about nagging women to Paul in the New Testament saying that it’s better not to marry. No mention of any female angels at all and that figures.

[guiParticipant 825]

For me it works. I consider myself a christian and it helps that the fathers of the religion (and the fathers of islam, buddhism and other religions as well) seemed to be pretty badass when dealing with women. Judging by what they wrote, they all adopted a stance of taking no s~~~ from women.

Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

[Repulsive RalfParticipant 356]

Take a read of Revelation 14 v 4, “These are the ones who have not been defiled with women”, women are a defilement, Christians were advised to remain single unless their desires were too strong for them to remain chaste.

[AutoliteParticipant]

I eventually came to a point in my life when I realized that I needed neither a woman nor a god.

I just couldn’t think of any particular instance when either one of them ever helped me out when I needed it…

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

I haven’t read a SINGLE post on this particular thread YET, but skipped to the end to post. My 2nd day here, but the day before yesterday I read and posted up a storm.

I would say MANY MANY MANY are Christian. And I would say MANY ‘lost their religion’ so to speak over what happened .. (I did for awhile) .. Part of why many men got JACKED is because they were ‘good, God fearing men’ who thought they were playing in the same sandbox.

Men, I was angry at God for years. It was a horse race who I was more angry at.. God or Her.. God didn’t do it. He gave us all (men and women) FREE WILL. She (your own version of Eve) screwed us, not God.. It is partly OUR FAULT too. We took the bait (free will, we didn’t have to) and I bet at some point(s) our ‘gut’ told us the truth, but we didn’t listen.

And even though crap turned out the way it did, remember this:

It COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE!

You could have spent the rest of your life with someone who didn’t love/respect/value/validate you, never being able to (now or in the future) find self love, self actualization, and your BEST life!

God did us a FAVOR if you want to give God credit for this…!

— My 2 cents.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

I see the ‘Revelation’ post. I add this (note, when you read, ‘In That Day’ it means when Messiah comes. 1st time (rarely) or 2nd (just before, or immediately when) time.

Isaiah 4:1:
“And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.”

Sorry.. I was a prison minister for years and know the bible pretty well.. I find it fascinating how things are going..

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

Just before can mean many many decades.. So don’t get your panties in a bunch..

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

I won’t do this often (ever) but here is Solomon (Proverbs 7 regarding Women and MGTOW) ::

My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee.

2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.

3 Bind them upon thy fingers, write them upon the table of thine heart.

4 Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:

5 That they may keep thee from the strange woman, from the stranger which flattereth with her words.

6 For at the window of my house I looked through my casement,

7 And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding,

8 Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house,

9 In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:

10 And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.

11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:

12 Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)

13 So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,

14 I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.

15 Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.

16 I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.

17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.

18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.

19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:

20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.

21 With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.

22 He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;

23 Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.

24 Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth.

25 Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.

26 For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.

27 Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.

[Anonymous 0]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

I see the ‘Revelation’ post. I add this (note, when you read, ‘In That Day’ it means when Messiah comes. 1st time (rarely) or 2nd (just before, or immediately when) time.

Isaiah 4:1:
“And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.”

Here’s what one commentary says. I find it interesting about the scarcity in the male sex. They relate it to war and captivity, but maybe MGTOW will cause such a scarcity.

Benson Commentary
Isaiah 4:1. In that day — Of which he has hitherto been speaking, chap. 2. and 3., and still continues to speak; in that calamitous time; seven women shall take hold on one man — “The war and captivity shall make such a prodigious scarcity in the male sex, that seven women shall be glad to apply to a single man for protection, preservation, and marriage: and shall importune him, though contrary to the natural modesty of their sex, to consent to take away their reproach — For not barrenness only, but a single state also was reckoned opprobrious among the Jews.” “And in spite of the natural suggestions of jealousy, they will each be content with a share only of the rights of marriage in common with several others; and that on hard conditions, renouncing the legal demands of the wife on the husband, (see Exodus 21:10,) and begging only the name and credit of wedlock, to be freed from the reproach of celibacy.”

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

..One last thing..

DID YOU KNOW, women can’t LOVE the way the bible talks about love? Paul tells mothers to ‘teach’ them how to as it doesn’t come naturally.

Also, they are COMMANDED to RESPECT their husbands (validation/support/…)

None of this ‘earn my respect’ crap.

Which is the same as ‘earn my love’.

Respect is the WOMANS DUTY/JOB.

Love is the MAN’s.

The idea is that, should the man (husband) fall/falter/make mistakes/etc, the woman provides the ‘backstop’ (“I believe in you.. You’re the best. You can do anything.. etc etc”) which would help him get back on his feet and take on the world, even after falling/mistakes, etc. Then, as that happens, he is able to sacrifice/love the woman.

It is a horrible break down. This is why ‘independant’ woman, while understandable, usually destroys the family unit / structure. I’m not a misogynist. I have 4 daughters!

I have no problem with it! But to get into a relationship/marriage without understanding the REAL TRUTH is foolish.

Doubt? MGTOW of all flavors, do your thing with women, but ask the woman this before you get in a relationship, “Do you think someone should have to earn respect?” [get the answer] Then sharpen the ‘pencil’ with this question, “Do you think men should have to earn the respect of his wife?”

Boom. Busted. Book closed.

Sorry.. No debating this. You can disagree with ‘me’ (who cares) I didn’t come up with this, God did:

Ephesians 5:22

“22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.”

Think THAT doesn’t drive a modern woman BAT S~~~?

I believe God is MGTOW.

If you (like I do) believe in the Triune God, then you could say:

Men (plural) Going Their Own Way

🙂 Just a thought.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Cheeky Bastard wrote:

Put it in the context of a man not a historical figure. A “thorn in his flesh” a product of carnality in opposition to his beliefs of serving God and remaining pure (Corinthians “if you must”). Paul believed in MGTOW in its purest form of his identity. What would corrupt that pure identity?
I meant; what would be in his flesh/carnality that would reproach his integrity and being pure for God and only God?

There was speculation of a physical ailment, or it could of been someone following him around and harassing him. With Paul, I think he was secure in his calling, and that can really be seen as MGTOW, if you factor in also not marrying. I consider those two to really be MGTOW. Paul may of been married at one time. I think idea of the texts is to see how they are of use today.

Paul regularly had to go into ‘WHORE/ORGY’ houses (temples dedicated to certain goddesses (forget which..Aphrodite or Hera) were nothing more than whore houses) spreading the gospel. He would have had to see this kind of thing a lot. You are quite wise to have picked up on that. Never heard of someone who had that perspective.

We can’t know this kind of thing for sure. This is PURE speculation.

[Anonymous 5]

I had a dream jesus was high-fiving all of you guys. Just like he tries to do ever day.

Nope not religious. But i have met some powerfull Christians.

[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

…the christian version of eternity is either eternal suffering or eternal dictatorship… this makes sense since Isaiah 45:7 says the Bible God created evil and calamity.

I prefer freedom from both, and the imaginary god.

HL

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