Would You Want To Get Married If We Lived In A Traditional Society?

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

Heraclius wrote:

1) Feminism is to blame for destroying marriage. (so I assume MGTOWs that constantly bring this up actually want to be in a relationship but are refusing to do so because of possible legal problems etc.)

This is not a reason for going MGTOW, this is merely a point made that the current state of marriage laws was brought about by feminism. See the tender year doctrine and no-fault divorce.

Heraclius wrote:

2) It’s in female nature to screw man over. It’s better to be single regardless of whether we have a trad system and laws in place or not.

Under traditional systems there were greater protections for the family as a whole and marriage was not easily set aside by either men or women. Once you loosened that one gender has driven the way to increased divorce and I’ll give you a hint, that gender is not male.

Heraclius wrote:

So which is it?

It’s neither of them. Men go MGTOW for a great many reason and for each man who has internalized MGTOW it is a deeply personal choice. The two points you have indicated above are just observations of modern society and female nature. As to those being the reason for a man to go MGTOW? Hardly. For me, I was fortunate that I learned from watching what happened to men I have known in my life, from a brother trapped in a marriage with 4 kids and an adulterous wife to a cousin brother who has had his life destroyed by a wife for no reason than being a dutiful husband and father that worked hard. I have seen a lot of men have their lives ripped apart and for what? The joy to work as a pack mule so that they can fulfill societies mold of “a real man.”

[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

I’d get married knowing what I now know about female nature if:

1) My Bride was a virgin.
2) The man owned all property, women could not own property.
3) Divorced women (and men) were shunned by society.
4) Girls were taught to cook and clean by their mothers.
5) The woman was HWP.
6) I wanted multiple children
7) You could not be charged with rape of your wife.
8) You could exercise the rule of thumb ( chastise his wife in moderation).
9) The current labor saving devices in the home did not exist.
10) The woman had never heard of feminism.

Is that traditional enough? That’s the way it was for thousands of years in many societies. Do you think there was a reason?

[Anonymous 12]

no, i would want to have good sex, but still refuse to take care of a woman, a wife, Kids, listen to the nagging pastor…

[Anonymous 3]

You only get one chance to grow up and come of age. This is the major reason why very old people today don’t understand marriage of today, they grew up in a different era. But that era is long gone, and each successive generation has seen more and more s~~~ and more and more men are wising up and opting out.

I don’t even blame women for any of it, although that’s a less popular viewpoint on here. I have, and consistently have maintained, that men are to blame for feminism and current gender relations. Not men in general, but those men that have been in positions of power and were charged with guiding society forward. Those men shirked their duty, and men on down the level promoted female privilege and misandry while committing injustices on innocent men down the line, until we got to where we are today.

That is why even as MGTOW I do not seek to manipulate other men. I do not tell them “don’t marry”, I simply make no attempt to pressure them to do so, and I never get involved with disputes between men and women. I do not favor one over the other, and act as robotic as possible. I’ve noticed women respect this, but it is blue pill men that have a problem with me.

And at the risk of this post getting too long, it is mainly because I believe in hierarchy, and do not at all believe in equality. Not between men and other men, and not between men and women. I understand women are hypergamous, and I take that as proof that women understand men are supposed to be superior to them, and no woman actually believes a man is supposed to be equal to her. If a man is equal, it means he is inferior. I believe a man such as Stephen Hawkin and other contributors to society are not equal to a drug using unemployed thug that doesn’t contribute at all to society. I believe great men stood above others of their time and were worthy of being obeyed and followed, men like George Washington or Lincoln were flat out superior to other men.

So how can I blame women, who I look at as inferior, to the men who were to be leaders and who made the rules and who were to guide, who shirked their duty and placed women as superior, and even raised the drug using bum to an equal level to the contributing citizen? I can not do so.

The burden of leadership is squarely on those that would claim to be our leaders. Not on a follower like women are.

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

HELL NO!!!!!!

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Marriage?

This is what it must feel like!

Lurkette and trollette: Add this picture to your “gender study” file.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

Heraclius wrote:

So which is it? Many MGTOWs on Youtube use both of these arguments for being MGTOWs, and it’s a contradiction. Do you believe that the problem is feminism, or do you believe that the problem is female nature itself?

There is no contradiction. You’ve created a false dichotomy.

Feminism doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Female nature birthed feminism. Feminism is the natural result when all the checks and restraints are removed from inherent female nature.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Silver Fox wrote:

Heraclius wrote:

So which is it? Many MGTOWs on Youtube use both of these arguments for being MGTOWs, and it’s a contradiction. Do you believe that the problem is feminism, or do you believe that the problem is female nature itself?

There is no contradiction. You’ve created a false dichotomy.

Feminism doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Female nature birthed feminism. Feminism is the natural result when all the checks and restraints are removed from inherent female nature.

AND BOOM that is exactly why “his” question isn’t actually a question, but more of a statement. It made several assumptions that were not to be challenged. Anyone with half a brain and a few seconds would have thought that through. In fact its a question that comes up being phrased that way when people are deliberately trying to push an agenda.

Seems like he abandoned the thread LOL.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Man works + does the house work + women sits on her ass and plays on her phone = tradional marriage.

Slow clap. Nice solution, NOT!

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Old Rottweiler wrote:

I’d get married knowing what I now know about female nature if:

1) My Bride was a virgin.
2) The man owned all property, women could not own property.
3) Divorced women (and men) were shunned by society.
4) Girls were taught to cook and clean by their mothers.
5) The woman was HWP.
6) I wanted multiple children
7) You could not be charged with rape of your wife.
8) You could exercise the rule of thumb ( chastise his wife in moderation).
9) The current labor saving devices in the home did not exist.
10) The woman had never heard of feminism.

11) You can decapitate your wife for disrespecting you.

(actually I think that’s still a thing today in some cultures)

[DarksenseParticipant 221]

FrostByte wrote:

Today? No I wouldn’t even if we did

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Not today. Not even 40 years ago. I’ve never follow anybody in my life; not friends, not girls. I just enjoy myself with who ever is around me; I hate commitments.

Naive you are if you're hoping to find your unicorn in Latin America. The brain-eating bacteria of feminism is everywhere. Give up!

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Marriage is for beta simps who want to at least have a chance at sex and reproduction. Marriage is not for men.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Check this s~~~ out and ask again. Female audience shreaks with delightful applause when learning a woman beat her fiancee…. when she found out he gave HIS RING THAT HE PURCHASED to another woman before her.

Would You Want To Get Married If We Lived In A Traditional Society?

It’s not even a question.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

@KM

And AWALT.

Did you notice the host saying that she should “throw out raw meat” to the audience they way they were howling with delight at any comment that indicates physical damage to men.

This is why we need DV shelters for men. I know it’s not popular here but that’s what is needed. Men need to know they don’t have to put up with being hit by their plantation master.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Jackinov wrote:

Seems like he abandoned the thread LOL.

She was probably “triggered”. LOL.

Threads started by trollettes and dudettes are always funny.

Maybe my cat picture gave all the answers.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Men need to know they don’t have to put up with being hi

If he’s putting up with being hit, he has already been there too long. I wouldn’t even up with the slightest fraction of hostility. She’s supposed to be his WIFE. The only acceptable behavior is a smiling, loving, warm and kind person and anything less than that… and you dump the bitch like an anchor.

Take this sort of thing for example.

“Please don’t touch me or look at me.”
– Every woman to her male partner after watching a goddam TV show.

… and they share and “like” it all over TV and social media.
“Look how much of a c~~~ I am to live with! LOL!!!”

There are women out there who think that’s acceptable. I wouldn’t even permit her to refer to me as “male partner”. EJECT THAT C~~~ OUT OF YOUR LFIE, INTO THE STREET AND BOLT THE DOOR BEHIND YOU. Why a man would ever put up with that is beyond words.

These p~~~ poor attitudes towards their husband / boyfriend is ridiculous. They don’t even TRY to be decent and civil – never mind warm and loving. It’s “hilarious” to punch him in the face.

Women are never c~~~s to themselves.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

This is why we need DV shelters for men. I know it’s not popular here but that’s what is needed. Men need to know they don’t have to put up with being hit by their plantation master.

You know why they aren’t built?

Because they would be full and men would meet there to UNITE and discuss how to take on the c~~~s. And then society would have woken up years ago…

Now we have MGTOW, which is a mental online men-shelter.

Here we can talk about the things that would normally give us a s~~~storm and bad repercussions.

That’s why c~~~s are so afraid of MGTOW: We unite and give them the wall of silence.

I read in some feminist article that they are kind of afraid that men unite in “some kind of online brotherhood”…

Yes, that is what they are afraid of: We unite and give them a taste of their own medicine!

Woman hated us for a very long time and they are scared s~~~less that this hate might come back to them.

They will keep men shelters from happening but they can’t stop MGTOW.

Ditching c~~~s has become our “hive mind”.

Men are AGAIN good hearted: We turn hate into indifference.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[DiogenesParticipant 373]

The missing component in this discussion is that in the former traditional society, marriage was for having and raising children. Both the man and woman were taught that growing up and understood it. When they got married, they intended to have children, and they were agreeing to a deal that benefited those children. Marriage was not seen as an avenue to personal fulfillment. Anybody who thought that back then would have been certified as crazy.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Because secretly, we hope for a NAWALT Unicorn. However, reality dictates such a thing highly unlikely since AWALT. Which brings us to point two. We’d like to hope, in that small sliver of blue pillness that we have, that the perfect woman is out there, however the results speak to the contrary which results in us swearing women off. Once you understand female nature, and you understand the system of rules you’re playing chess to, it becomes obvious that the best result is not to engage the game. There are some who are simply holding out that the rules to said game will change. Many of us believe that is highly unlikely.

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

Keymaster wrote:

If he’s putting up with being hit,

I believe Tom Leykis said it best – marriage is basically you putting up with someone else’s crap.

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