Would You Want To Get Married If We Lived In A Traditional Society?

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  • #552125
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    TaxGuy
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    I had a great uncle and aunt like that.

    That’s the great untold truth of the tradcon way of life. It wasn’t “better” back then, whatever that means. A man had a boss at work and a boss when he got “home”. More like a boss when he got back to her house.

    As I told my friends who got divorced, and they told me, “Congratulations! You just got half your stuff back!”

    Order the good wine

    #552131
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    Eric Lauder
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    Fair enough. I just wondered what your ideal male-female dynamic would look like. I believe that the fact that something is natural does not make it good for all the parties involved. Just like the female tarantula eats the male after they have sex. It’s natural, but it definitely doesn’t benefit the male.

    Exactly.
    My idea is that MGTOW should be something like a philosophy meant to live a life as male tarantulas who have satisfaction without being ate.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #552132
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
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    29101

    Basically it’s “SHUT THE F~~~ UP AND JUST ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTIONS- nobody told you to think! You answer only what I ask, when I ask it! I however am under NO obligation to change my tone when speaking to you people- and you better not have a problem with it!”

    And that’s how a tuna normally treats you…

    BTW.

    Tuna means the smell of vagina. Since women hardly shower on a daily basis, it has become noticeable everywhere in public. And because most women lie there like dead fish when they have sex.

    Like tuna…

    And this thread reeks like a fish processing plant.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #552139
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    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    Some MGTOWs believe that women themselves aren’t the problem – its women combined with the State that is the problem.

    Other MGTOWs believe that female nature itself is the problem.

    Personally, I’m not sure what is among those two.
    And I really don’t care.
    I deal with actual situation and I live in actual world.
    In actual world feminism is the wife of the State and when the wife cries then her husband (the State) beat the crap out of me.
    It’s due female nature itself? It’s due an historical circumstance?
    WHO F~~~ING CARES?
    In both cases the answer is still the same: to free yourself from women and their influence.
    “Unc~~~ing”, like Gargamel is used to say.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #552141
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    FullMetalExo
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    Feminism IS the worst of female nature, concentrated, shame on display.
    I will never marry, and traditionalism doesn’t work anymore.

    I have a washing machine and I can cook, I like Freedom. I respect myself enough not to sign the marriage contract.

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    #552146
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    OldBill
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    That’s the great untold truth of the tradcon way of life.

    Very much so. As you note, a man had different “bosses” depending on whether he was at work or at home.

    My great aunt was a bit of loon which probably made things worse. It just wasn’t old age, the family said she’d always been “tetched”.

    She reused birthday, holiday, and other kinds of greeting cards. Now I consider all of that useless, the habit silly, and rarely mail any. My great aunt wanted to mail them out without having to buy any new ones! You’d get a birthday or “Get Well” card someone hard sent her one, two, or ten years ago with the original writing marked out and a new message written below.

    She also had all her best furnishings in a parlor she let no one enter. The door to the parlor was always kept shut. I remember her telling my mom about a new lamp and then only letting her look at it while standing in the doorway. My father referred to the parlor as “Tut’s Tomb” because it was full of furniture and other treasures no one would ever use.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #552147
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    Carnage
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    Women hate men, they always did, they always will.

    Old days where not better.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #552149
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    Beer
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    If by traditional society, you mean were I born 50 or 100 years earlier, then yeah, I probably would have gotten married. It would have been in my early 20s to a woman in her prime who hadn’t been around the block and back a few times. You have to also remember…had that been the case I wouldn’t be looking around at a society with a 50%+ divorce rate that heavily favors women in the dividing up of assets/income, I wouldn’t know so many guys who got crushed by divorce, and society back then actually respected men. What like 95%+ of men ended up married back then? Its easy to say HELL NO when 1/3 of young men are married and divorce is so rampant but things were different back then.

    In the end I think we are just a product of our times. Right now things are just biased too heavily in favor of women in a lot of different ways. Why would I not get married right now? Its just not a good deal. Would I get married if I was raised in a different era where it wasn’t perceived as such a s~~~ty deal? Probably.

    Does that mean my life would be better or I’d have been happier? Who knows, and who cares. I’m living in the reality laid out before me…it really doesn’t matter if marriage is/was a better or wrose deal in other societies or in the past because what I’m looking at is marriage in my country in the present time sucks for men, so I’m not going to do it.

    #552150
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    ~BS
    ~BS
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    Would You Want To Get Married If We Lived In A Traditional Society?

    no…

    No.

    If you asked me back in my BP days, i probably would have said yes. But once your eyes are opened, you cannot close them. A woman in a “traditional society” is less bad than the s~~~show we live in today, but it still is a raw deal.

    It’s like your doctor informing you that you’ll lose a hand versus your entire arm. It’s less bad, but STILL BAD.

    "He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

    #552151
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    Freeman_K
    Freeman_K
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    3524

    This is probably some field work for some SJW college assignment in gender studies.

    As for the question, i do not need state to manage relations between two adults but when divorce was 1-50 it made at least a bit of sense to do it. Now, it makes no sense.

    The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

    #552154
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    “Would You Want To Get Married If We Lived In A Traditional Society?”

    “Is that a proposal? Where’s the ring? “

    “Come on, seriously. Would You Want To Get Married If We Lived In A Traditional Society?”

    “OK seriously. Is that even a REASON to get married?”

    “I guess not. But let’s say there is no feminist-driven divorce industry waiting to rape you financially. Would you be willing to get married?”

    “How is not getting destroyed a plus or benefit to a man?”

    “Um . . . . “

    “Traditional marriage was never beneficial to a man. It was a benefit to the woman and the children. So you’re going to have to give me a REASON to want to get married. Make me an offer I can’t refuse. “

    “I’ve noticed that there are two contradictory things many MGTOWs say is the reason why they GTOW. Feminism is to blame for destroying marriage and It’s in female nature to screw man over. So which is it?”

    “If a man is going his own way for those reasons, he’s probably doing it wrong.”

    You see the point.

    A man doesn’t need a “reason” to GHOW.
    He would first need a reason to sign a marriage contract in the first place.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #552155
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    Autolite
    Autolite
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    If you asked me back in my BP days, i probably would have said yes. But once your eyes are opened, you cannot close them. A woman in a “traditional society” is less bad than the s~~~show we live in today, but it

    TBH, there were only two women in my life that I would have seriously considered marrying. In retrospect, marrying either one would have been a disaster ending in a divorce after a very short marriage.

    Knowing what I now know today about women and relations~~~s, I cannot even imagine any circumstance or situation where I would ever again want or consider marriage…

    #552157
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    Skeptisk
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    1) Feminism is to blame for destroying marriage. (so I assume MGTOWs that constantly bring this up actually want to be in a relationship but are refusing to do so because of possible legal problems etc.)
    2) It’s in female nature to screw man over. It’s better to be single regardless of whether we have a trad system and laws in place or not.

    Feminism is female behavior politicized. So you either-or question(s) becomes meaningless. Female behavior (feminism) destroyed marriage through the State using the method of Divorce Rape, so point 1 is true. And point 2 is also true, because the part of female behavior to cause this is called hypergamy; to look for the better deal. There is no either-or.

    "Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

    #552160
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    Beer
    Beer
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    11832

    If you asked me back in my BP days, i probably would have said yes. But once your eyes are opened, you cannot close them. A woman in a “traditional society” is less bad than the s~~~show we live in today, but it still is a raw deal.

    That is the thing though…we all had blue pill days. I don’t think a lot of us come out of the blue pill phase of our lives until after a divorce rape or after enough s~~~ty experiences with women.

    In a traditional society women don’t ride the carousel til they are 30 then want to marry up…you’d have been married young when you were still in your blue pills days. Its easy to look at it with your knowledge, experiences, and wisdom accumulated in today’s society, but back then when statistically you’d have married younger and divorce was much more rare so even if you came to the same conclusion about women that you have today, it would already be too late.

    #552170
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    Anonymous
    42

    You have just enriched the English language by one more word.

    I now call her “trollette”…

    Coming from what ass-eyes said you Gargamel are stupid, a German, in Germany, that speaks a second language (English), better than we do! Because you’re stupid.

    Usted está Senior estúpido!

    #552177
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    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    A man doesn’t need a “reason” to GHOW.
    He would first need a reason to sign a marriage contract in the first place.

    This is gold.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #552182
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    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    12043

    This is probably some field work for some SJW college assignment in gender studies.

    No.
    I had a gender studies class, it’s more primitive than his approach, much more.
    My professors in Lund were, most times, lesbians drooling at female students and viewing me as “the evil competitor”.
    Those lesbians would chain other women and abuse of them if they had the chance, don’t expect so much complexity of thoughts from them.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #552183
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    Twist
    Twist
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    He and his buddies, most of who were in similar situations, rustled up some chairs, a table or two, a wood stove, a radio, and spent their days there smoking, whittling, knitting lobster purses, knocking together a few traps, playing cards, and talking.

    I’d tradcon my ass right back to that shed. Sounds like a setting for wisdom.

    #552192
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    Anonymous
    5

    No, I just want to f~~~, and get my dick suck!

    #552204
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    Darksense
    Darksense
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    221

    NO. Marriage goes against biology and nature. A man is born to be free. Marriage is nothing more than a contract in which you voluntarily hire the government as the project manager of your mating life and you’re the only liable party for whatever happens to the people involved.

    Naive you are if you're hoping to find your unicorn in Latin America. The brain-eating bacteria of feminism is everywhere. Give up!

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