Would You Want To Get Married If We Lived In A Traditional Society?

[HeracliusParticipant 57]

All of you who are saying I’m some chick who’s infitrated the forum are pretty retarded. I’ll just say that straight away. I’m asking a precise question and using precise language because I actually want a straight answer. The reason is exactly because these two points are used in a very confusing way, so I want to get to the bottom of it. I’m here to talk about things that interest me, and if you have an issue with that, no one is forcing you to answer in my threads. I’m not interested in an echo-chamber or some mob mentality. I’m a free man and I plan to stay that way, regardless of my MGTOW lifestyle.

[OldBillParticipant]

I’d still be under the yoke for the benefit of someone else, so no.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 42]

One or two? Okay

1.

2.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Heraclius wrote:

All of you who are saying I’m some chick who’s infitrated the forum are pretty retarded, even though I’ve been using language and structuring my posts exactly like a trolling c~~~ would. I’ll just say that straight away.

Fixed that for ya.

Heraclius wrote:

I’m asking a precise question and using precise language because I actually want a straight answer. The reason is exactly because these two points are used in a very confusing way…I’m not interested in an echo-chamber or some mob mentality

Only confusing if you’re a stupid asshole who refuses to read the threads upon threads, or watch the videos upon videos about exactly that question (while claiming to have been MGTOW for about a year), and so instead writes a thread using alienation methods in the construction of such, and then decides to write the rest of his posts in a manner that ignores the valid problems with the first, but instead, calls everyone else retarded because the idea that you actually are the problem is outlandish.

You can’t call it an echo chamber if I’m disagreeing with you.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

We all don’t think the same. That’s part of the reason we’re MGTOW. We don’t just go with the herd. Thus, even amongst ourselves, we think individually. So yes, we don’t 100% agree on everything.

Some MGTOWs believe that women themselves aren’t the problem – its women combined with the State that is the problem.

Other MGTOWs believe that female nature itself is the problem.

We all don’t have to agree on everything. Why? Because we all agree on most important thing – avoiding marriage and cohabitation with women.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

One of my good friends has a saying: “IF my aunt had b~~~~, she’d be my uncle”. I don’t worry much about IF. We DON’T live in a traditional society and ENOUGH women are like that (EWALT). And I don’t have the mental energy anymore to try to sift through the garbage heap to make a decent meal.

To answer your question, personally I wouldn’t. But I’m in 50’s and my kids are almost off to college. I don’t need a roommate at this point in my life. Do I want to marry a woman in her 50’s about to hit “the change”? Uh, no thank you. She would also be post-wall and her best days behind her. It’s hard to be physically attracted to my grandma, just saying. If you were married to her in her 20’s or 30’s and she was a great person, you are STILL attracted to them for who they are. But to start now? I’m pretty sure I would just be their retirement plan.

Which, by the way, is what we were in the tradcon days. A meal ticket, a retirement plan, and someone they didn’t want around HER house everyday when you finally got to stop pulling the plow every day and retired. My grandparents just died last year in their late 90’s. We had their funeral service this summer. My uncle was telling me that the roughest patch they had was when my grandfather first retired. Because he was around HER house every day. I loved my grandmother, but she wasn’t looking forward to having her husband, the love of her life, around all day. She wanted him out of HER house.

So that’s Tradcon? You can stick tradcon where the sun doesn’t shine.

Order the good wine

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Oh yeah, and another thing……

In the tradcon marriage, men went out and worked while the wife stayed home and took care of the (her) house. And then a funny thing happened. Men invented a bunch of products to make taking care of the house way easier. So what used to be a somewhat fair trade off is now a crock. It’s EASY to take care of the house. And the pressure of being the only wage earner and knowing that if you don’t keep pulling that plow your family won’t have a roof over their head is the reason why men die younger than women do.

So again, I’ll pass.

Order the good wine

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Trolls create the best and longest threads…

See you on page 9.

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[HeracliusParticipant 57]

Fair enough. I just wondered what your ideal male-female dynamic would look like. I believe that the fact that something is natural does not make it good for all the parties involved. Just like the female tarantula eats the male after they have sex. It’s natural, but it definitely doesn’t benefit the male.

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

Best o luck dudette.

“I was just following instructions and the judge send me down the road with your subpoena”

The ideal you speak of is filled with s~~~ test. So why would any man want that

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Heraclius wrote:

I’ve noticed that there are two contradictory things many MGTOWs say is the reason why they went MGTOW.

1) Feminism is to blame for destroying marriage. (so I assume MGTOWs that constantly bring this up actually want to be in a relationship but are refusing to do so because of possible legal problems etc.)
2) It’s in female nature to screw man over. It’s better to be single regardless of whether we have a trad system and laws in place or not.

So which is it? Many MGTOWs on Youtube use both of these arguments for being MGTOWs, and it’s a contradiction. Do you believe that the problem is feminism, or do you believe that the problem is female nature itself? In the first case you’d be perfectly happy to get married because you’d be safe from divorce and all of that crap. So you blame feminism for women not being as good as they used to be. In the second case, you believe that it’s in female nature to use and abuse men so you would want nothing to do with them regardless of any social changes that might occur.

My position is a CLEAR 2). I believe that being controlled through biological instincts by another person, however good of a person they might be, is insulting. The only honorable thing is to defy one’s urges in order to stay free from the shackles of relationships. The Higher Man cannot let his biology lead him into slavery.

What is your stance on this subject? 1) or 2)?

My position is 2, too.
The contradiction is due MGTOW is actually polluted by tradcons and losers who can’t get laid (and those losers think that in a traditional society they could land a traditional wife).

MGTOW, position 2 I mean, is actually the next step in human evolution and it lead to liberation of men.
True, total, liberation of men can be achieved, in my opinion, just only through artificial sex and artificial reproduction.
Read that
http://gssq.blogspot.it/2017/07/the-male-sexual-deficit-social-fact-of.html

Keyphrase:

Sex surveys show gay men (but not lesbians) to be much more active than heterosexual men, because the constraint of lesser female interest is removed.

What happen when this constraint is removed even from heterosexual men because they go through artificial sex route?
It happen that everything changes…

You’re welcome.

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[MACHOParticipant]

For a brand new member Heraclius (you just started posting) take the time to read the tone of your post and you should understand the hostility you have generated on here.

Heraclius wrote:

All of you who are saying I’m some chick who’s infitrated the forum are pretty retarded. I’ll just say that straight away. I’m asking a precise question and using precise language because I actually want a straight answer.

Heraclius wrote:

I’m here to talk about things that interest me, and if you have an issue with that, no one is forcing you to answer in my threads. I’m not interested in an echo-chamber or some mob mentality. I’m a free man and I plan to stay that way, regardless of my MGTOW lifestyle.

Heraclius wrote:

You’re a retard bro. Want to add me on skype? We can have a chat and you can check out my schlong as well. No problem.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

1) post an intro.

2) there is no power in this earth that migth make me marry again. Women are insane period.

“Women must be loved, no understood”

Women can work, pay taxes, and do what ever the f~~~ they want, they don’t need me, I don’t need them.

By the way, all feminist bulls~~~, DV help center and anything related to women needs and s~~~ should be payed by Women TAXES, there is no reason for me to pay for people who hates me.

I need feminism couse women can pay their own s~~~ and f~~~ off.

By the way you should see venom post about women quotes, and all the women I know say “I don’t need a men”

What’s your point? Men don’t need a woman neither.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Heraclius wrote:

Fair enough. I just wondered what your ideal male-female dynamic would look like

Equality, what feminism was supposed to be about. I can make my own money, I can clean my own house, and I am as good a parent as my ex. Feminism was supposed to give me a partner, not a bitch that lacks the capacity to be happy or content.

I’m guessing the woman that are partners with their spouse are the ones that make up the 10% or so of happy marriages. But 10% is just a guess. I have yet to see a happily married man once you actually get to see what the marriage looks like.

Order the good wine

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

MACHO wrote:

For a brand new member Heraclius (you just started posting) take the time to read the tone of your post and you should understand the hostility you have generated on here.

Basically it’s “SHUT THE F~~~ UP AND JUST ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTIONS- nobody told you to think! You answer only what I ask, when I ask it! I however am under NO obligation to change my tone when speaking to “you people”- and you better not have a problem with it!”

are you a chia pet in man drag

[OldBillParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

My uncle was telling me that the roughest patch they had was when my grandfather first retired. Because he was around HER house every day. I loved my grandmother, but she wasn’t looking forward to having her husband, the love of her life, around all day. She wanted him out of HER house.

I had a great uncle and aunt like that. Both were pure Downeast Maine types. My great uncle “followed the sea” most his entire working life. He fished, lobstered, crewed on all sorts of ships, cut timber, worked log drives, and even was in the Lighthouse Service before it was folded into the Coast Guard. My great aunt was used to him being away more than being home. Like your grandmother, the house his work had paid for was somehow her house.

When his working days were over, she’d give him breakfast in the morning and then he had to leave. She didn’t care where he went, he just had to get out of her house until it was dinner time. Fortunately there was an old smoke house behind the back garden where my great uncle used to dry fish. He and his buddies, most of who were in similar situations, rustled up some chairs, a table or two, a wood stove, a radio, and spent their days there smoking, whittling, knitting lobster purses, knocking together a few traps, playing cards, and talking.

As a kid I couldn’t wait to run back there whenever we visited. I still remember the laughter when I mistook a fish drying on one of the ceiling laths for a boomerang! They had a small wooden barrel full of “burgoo”, a mixture of dry oatmeal, dried bacon, and dried fish. You could either boil it on the stove or eat it like granola. My mother was always worried I’d eat some, so I never told her I did.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Heraclius wrote:

Fair enough. I just wondered what your ideal male-female dynamic would look like. I believe that the fact that something is natural does not make it good for all the parties involved. Just like the female tarantula eats the male after they have sex. It’s natural, but it definitely doesn’t benefit the male.

No dinámic at all, I want total gender segregation. Women in one side of the planet, men in the other side.

Reproduction?

You get a random number assigned, sperm is sended, If the baby is male after 8 months of growth is sended to the men side of the world.

See? Perfect world, no DV, no divorce, no deseases, no problem.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

TattooDave wrote:

Best o luck dudette.

You have just enriched the English language by one more word.

I now call her “trollette”…

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

Dude (or not) might be suffering from bitch brain.

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

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