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Eh, keep in mind you’re basically arguing that this interpretation is correct because a woman told you so.
Women are notorious for making up their own version of reality and generally not actually knowing what they’re talking about. This has not changed in thousands of years, and it really has not changed now.
Historically speaking, there were no corporate office jobs and no promotions given out. You either had a family business, worked on a farm, or were a slave. No matter how good of a peasant/serf you were, you weren’t going to get promoted to noble/aristocrat.
I am aware of where I got my information from. But, everything else she taught me checked out, so I will give her the benefit of the doubt.
I used the corporate example because it is an easy example to understand. But, this networking applied to women going to church every Sunday, to a wife privately to talking to the local mayor’s wife.
If you started out as a noble, sure maybe some women would play political games with each other, but for the most part the men would call the shots. Women were chattel, and depending on the area and era, were not allowed to own property themselves or do much of anything.
Most people in history, of both genders were either slaves or masters.
What you need to understand is that we all need to realize that much of the behavior we see in women is not solely because they are women, but because they have been spoiled since they were children.
The women of today were never taught any mental discipline.
My paternal grandmother, and many of the women of her generation were taught mental discipline. I could see the steel behind their eyes.
You can easily see what I am talking about by looking at the way women look around with their eyes. Most women today have unfocused eyes, that look around and do not really focus on anything in particular.
If you know a lady. A true lady. Look at their eyes. They are always focused and direct towards someone or something.
Men of the past were far more likely to want to just be bachelors. With bachelor taxes and exhortations by emperors to marry annoying women, even though they’d also admit how worthless women were.
Never forget that there is some truth in the saying. “The hand the rocks the cradle, rules the world.”
The first teachers babies have are their mothers. Fathers can be there, but the mothers usually are the first teachers for babies. And spoiled teachers make for poor students. As we have seen in society as a whole.
There is a lot of about society that is behind the scenes. Much of which the feminists have destroyed in western civilization.
We could list the eras and cultures where women had roles outside of the home, or were slaves. But, that would would just create a circular argument.
Though, to call women, in general to be “worthless” is an insult to everyone’s intelligence. You believe that a woman cannot be successful in business without government help. That is very incorrect.
Genuine success by women is much rarer than men, but it does happen.
I even know of an female ancestor of mine, from a hundred and fifty years ago. From the southeast U.S., she became a successful business woman. And from what I was told, she hated the “Yankee” government with a passion that would rival fires of hell.
Though, this society does not reward success, from anyone, it punishes the successful. It is that more successful men are tore down by this society than women. But, successful women have been known to be tore down in by this society. It is just rarer.
There was no female positive aspect that built anything. Civilization is built entirely by men, with women not allowed to damage their work. When a civilization becomes wealthy, that is when women come in and destroy everything. These cycles are a very part of humanity apparently.
Building civilization is a group effort. And to say that only women are tearing down civilization is very incorrect.
This is not intended as an excuse towards women. Though, how women are today is symptom of a much worse problems, such as emotional immaturity and lack of responsibility that is prevalent in this society. From many women and men.
If have read my posts, you would noticed a major difference between how women today and in the past look for in men.
In the past, many women were taught to look for men that have the “potential for success” and work with their husband to achieve success. This may for a strong family unit as a whole.
Women today look for men that are already successful, to take all their wealth from in divorce. Back then, ladies had an insult for that. They call such women to be “gold diggers”. And it was an endearing term.
And it was an endearing term.
I meant to say, it was NOT an endearing term.
Anonymous3^AWALT through all of history and in all locations.
Just read quotes from great men throughout different eras.
We’re not going to agree on this though, so I will just drop it. I sincerely wish you good luck in finding your NAWALT partner for marriage to build your family legacy through networking or whatever. I may yet get married myself with the proper proposal from a wealthy, attractive young woman from a high status family (haha, yeah right).
^AWALT through all of history and in all locations.
Just read quotes from great men throughout different eras.
We’re not going to agree on this though, so I will just drop it. I sincerely wish you good luck in finding your NAWALT partner for marriage to build your family legacy through networking or whatever. I may yet get married myself with the proper proposal from a wealthy, attractive young woman from a high status family (haha, yeah right).
I fully agree that all woman are like that, in the sense that all women are manipulative. But, not all women are emotionally spoiled children. Not all women are selfish and shortsighted. I am pointing out how women were once taught to use their manipulative abilities to strengthen her family, instead of robbing and destroying her family.
Now, when it comes to great men in history talking about women. I have studied this subject. A number of them were very bias towards women for various reasons. And some great men were not so bias towards women.
Socrates was a war veteran, and he was married TWICE. He had seen a lot of ugliness in his life. Socrates did not really have that high an opinion of people in general.
On the other hand, one of Socrates’ students, Plato whom held different beliefs than his teacher, Socrates. Plato believed that all people are born inherently good. Including women.
On that subject, it is known that the great forums ancient Greece were practically the male only elk lodges of that day. Where men went to get away from their troubles. And where they could talk about anything, including trouble with their wives and women in general.
I honestly think the word, “hysteria”. Which the word, “hysteria”, is rooted from ancient Greece. Which originally meant that if a woman became to emotional their uterus would fall out. Likely started as a joke in one of these forums and some people took the joke seriously.
From what I have learned, Confucius hated women.
Sun Tzu was writing a book on war. Not a book on family.
Of course, Sun Tzu probably like having sex with women. Because he was clearly intelligent enough to realize that if he did not lie, by saying that women were useless. And instead, he informed others of how women could be useful in war, both on the battlefield, and the household. He was sure one of his enemies would use a woman, with this knowledge, against him. And he likely didn’t feel like worrying about a woman he was sharing a bed with, being a threat to him.
The twelve apostles both hated and were jealous of Mary Magdalene’s relationship with their teacher, Jesus. This dislike for Mary Magdalene transfer to their view on women in general. And that is not counting that when one has a large group of men traveling together, more than likely few of those men will have a history of having problems with women.
And this is not even getting into the great thinkers of Eastern religions dealing with reincarnation. While many of those systems were big on the caste system. Both men and women made up each level the caste system. And those that preached those religions realize the implications of reincarnation, from one human life to the next human life. With souls swapping genders from one life to the next life. As such, these thinkers were not so hot on the idea of saying such generalizations as men were good and women were evil, because they didn’t want to possibly screw themselves in their next life.
Anonymous3Right, well I’m a card carrying member of club misogyny. I think women are utterly worthless and that is one of my core beliefs.
As I stated, I fully understand you will not share my beliefs. That is fine, do what you will, and good luck to you my friend.
Right, well I’m a card carrying member of club misogyny. I think women are utterly worthless and that is one of my core beliefs.
As I stated, I fully understand you will not share my beliefs. That is fine, do what you will, and good luck to you my friend.
Should one get burned enough times by fire, that person will come to dislike fire. That does not mean that fire cannot be useful, only that fire can still burn you.
I do not believe any person is truly worthless. Everyone has at least some redeeming qualities. But, I also have nothing to do with the emotionally immature.
Right, well I’m a card carrying member of club misogyny. I think women are utterly worthless and that is one of my core beliefs.
🙂 You are awesome, Phoenix. Nice to see other Christians here, too.
"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."
Anonymous5Right, well I’m a card carrying member of club misogyny. I think women are utterly worthless and that is one of my core beliefs.
As I stated, I fully understand you will not share my beliefs. That is fine, do what you will, and good luck to you my friend.
Should one get burned enough times by fire, that person will come to dislike fire. That does not mean that fire cannot be useful, only that fire can still burn you.
I do not believe any person is truly worthless. Everyone has at least some redeeming qualities. But, I also have nothing to do with the emotionally immature.
The only redeeming quality of females is their c~~~. Females a 100 years ago used to be good for 3 things. Now they are only good for 1 thing because they don’t cook or clean in 2015.
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