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Anonymous3I have just turned 22. I have never had a best friend and I probably will never have close guy friends. The power of the pussy is just too strong for most men and thats all they care about. All their actions in everyday life revolve around getting the girl, getting the pussy.
I had read it was different with you younger guys, but that was about the gist of it with me too. Any guy that I thought was a close friend would throw our friendship away at the hint of pussy, and everybody acts like that is normal and perfectly reasonable behavior. Rather than make a big deal about it, I just realized that you can’t trust men any more than you can trust women. Actually in fact I learned women are in fact more useful often times, because you can manipulate them directly, whereas you will always need to use a woman to manipulate a man.
a lot of my friends get with women and then their woman tells them “no more friends for you”. Isolating your partner and limiting their contact with their friends and family is a form of abuse and it is all too common for women to do to their partners. Why do they do it? because a woman has no real close friends. She tries to make her boyfriend her whole world and expects him to do the same. Then when he is completely isolated with no friends in the picture, she turns the knife.
I disagree, I think it’s more the above.
Most men are full of s~~~. And I’ve called them on it often. A guy SAYS his wife/gf whatever won’t “let” him do this or that, what he really means is: “I never wanted to do this s~~~ in the first place, now I can point to this woman and get out of it.” I’ve actually called women up plenty of times when a guy tried to pull this s~~~ on me. The women will actually make the guy go through with whatever it was. It’ll kill your friendship with that guy, but that friendship was finished anyway, so at least make the power structure clear. This probably only works if you’re an attractive and younger guy, haven’t done this for a long time, as I’ve gotten older.
I know on here we talk about manginas and white knights and how they’re insufferable. Well they’re about 95% of the population, and just like women, most white knights can’t stand each other either. They fake some sort of solidarity but given half a choice they’d rather stab each other and be done with it.
Just look at how the typical guy treats his “friends.” Put downs, insults, “busting b~~~~” and other bulls~~~ that’s obviously designed to hurt and belittle someone. It’s really the same passive aggressive bulls~~~ women do, and that’s because the average “man” today is pretty just just a female or wannabe female.
women are catching up on dying from stress related causes.Running every things sounds great but long hard days and trying to make everyone happy.stress and working from can to can;t kill They do not take the dirty,hard dangerous jobs and combat deaths.I have never heard of a Feminist turning down a life boat seat after the call women and children first
When I was married we had a lot of friends that were in couples. That meant all the plantation trained men went into the living room to watch TV because we were not allowed to talk about our S.O. while our wives droned on and on about the most personal parts of our relationships.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I’ve enjoyed some pretty surprising good chill sessions just by striking up a conversation with some random guy.
I know, right? It seems to me that random men will always have something intriguing to say.
I’ve never gotten close to that kind of intriguing conversation with a woman.
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
Anonymous1Even before taking my red pills, I had involuntarily become a “foul weather friend” to all the blue-pill men who were “my friends”.
Of all my friends (of which only 2 I would consider “close”) I’ve watched the following scenario play out every time:
Hang out, ride motorbikes, work on cars, sometimes his GF is there, sometimes not. He pops the question and 3 months out from the “day” communication is severely diminished. You ask if he wants to grab a beer /go for a ride / go to the auto show. He can’t make it, you tell him you understand, they have to plan the wedding and all that crap.
The “day” comes around, you go to the event against your will (in my case), partially because your friend wants you there, mostly to mourn the loss of your friend, because: you will never, ever see him again, socially or otherwise, while he’s in the relationship, ever. Period.
You may catch a glimpse of him walking around in a shopping centre, or in a restaurant (rare), you may even try and go and say hello, you’ll say we should catch up, go for a motorbike ride, grab a beer.
It never happens.
The female isolates the male to control him. He gets dragged around to her family, always in tow (never his). For she knows that once the memories of that day are tarnished and pitted, heaven forbid some guy on the “outside” should remind him how good it is out here. Doing what you want, when you want, building something for yourself, rather than only for her.
This most recently happened to a very close friend of mine. Long term girlfriend upgraded to Wife 1.0. On the day, we were talking to his older brother. Conversation meandered to me saying “Well, this is the last we’ll see of our friend” he said “What? No. If that happens call me and I’ll put him straight”.
It’s been 5 months. I haven’t told his brother, and I won’t.
I’m guessing when the situation goes sour, then he’ll ask to hang out again.
The thing is, though, now that I’ve red-pilled and gained all of this knowledge, I don’t like the company of blue-pillers. They’re boring.
So yeah, maybe that’s why some many men have no close friends.
Anonymous11I’m very extroverted and know a large number of people. I have exactly 7 close male friends who will always have my back some I met in my teens and a couple in my early 40s.
I never played that s~~~ where I let girlfriends ban me from seeing my friends. I caught a lot of hell for it too but never backed down. I’ve watched many a man become a slave to some vicious wench training for a Jaba the Hut look alike contest though.
One of my longest known friends and a true mangina’s mangina is keeping the two bastard children of his wife’s carousel riding stripper niece as a f~~~ing house husband. He’s a laughing stock among our peer group.
I’ve personally have always been a lone wolf. Best friend I had was my dog and he died when I was young.
I don’t have any close friends, I’d love to have a group of close friends to have a couple pints with talking about MGTOW or any other intelligent conversation and experiencing the world rather than what my current friends are like; All drinking in clubs on the weekend trying to get laid.
Im compelled to add….. I was out one night at a coffee shop. It was dark already and I talked to this guy with a motorbike.. Nice bike. Commented on it while we were in line waiting for our drinks. It turned into a 3 hour red-pill conversation. A really good time.
Turns out he was Katie Perry’s body guard. And bodyguard to a few other celebs. (dude was HUGE)
I’ll tell you…. you think you’re lonely and have no really close friends?? Wait until you’re famous. THAT’S lonely.I’ve enjoyed some pretty surprising good chill sessions just by striking up a conversation with some random guy. Interesting in the most unexpected way.
I will help poor Katie. I’m an expert.
The female isolates the male to control him. He gets dragged around to her family, always in tow (never his). For she knows that once the memories of that day are tarnished and pitted, heaven forbid some guy on the “outside” should remind him how good it is out here. Doing what you want, when you want, building something for yourself, rather than only for her.
That has not always been the case.
A few here comment that women view social contacts as pieces on a chess board. But, there is more to that. As another pointed out, women today are to shortsighted to know how to properly play this type of chess.
Socially isolating someone is a amateur move shows how little women are taught at manipulation. They only use their natural abilities, and the opportunities that society, by brainwashing men, provides.
Years ago. I once had the conversation with my paternal grandmother on this very subject. She was surprisingly open about what she told me. And I learned a lot from that conversation. Woman whom are actually taught the manipulation game could do so much more. This was part of how a woman was taught to be a ladies.
This was before feminists taught women to reject these teachings. And before alimony, divorce, and child support laws came into effect, making many women lazy.
Ladies back then women did not always marry for success. If a man was already successful before marriage, then the ladies new there was little to manipulate. The successful man would only see a wife as a trophy wife, an unneeded luxury that is fun to have.
Ladies married into men with the potential to success. That way, if the woman can continue to manipulate both her husband and the situation, to bring about success, and help keep and retain the husband. When men achieve things, they usually give credit where credit is due, and in this case, this would solidify the husband’s loyalty to the wife.
Also, unless it is truly by accident, a lady would not get pregnant before marriage, because she knew that doing so would poison any future marriage.
These ladies did not isolate their male lover, instead they networked into their lover’s family. They branched out to use every resource available to them.
The husband’s family could provide contacts and resources that would strengthen the wife and her family. And all the husband’s family would truly want in exchange is to spend time with the husband and grandkids, which off the wife/mother a break. A win-win situation for the wife.
Also, how the wife helped the husband at his job was so simple, but such a lost are. The wife would have the husband invite the husband’s boss and his wife to dinner. Just the four of them.
At dinner the wife and the boss’ wife would make contact, for later conversations.
Later on, the wife would contact the boss’ wife, in private, and in exchange for a favor, or two, from the wife, the wife would convince the boss’ wife to whisper into the boss’ ear, to get the wife’s husband that bonus, or a promotion at his job. Thus strengthening the wife’s family.
This extended to groups of women. All of the ladies trading favors to strengthen their various families. Each of these ladies valuing their pieces on this large chess board. And none of the discarded one of their pieces, unless they needed to.
You don’t think those Tupperware parties were just about plastic containers? The women at those gatherings were networking with each other.
This is how ladies were known to have the steel gauntlet under the valet glove.
This is what a “strong woman” was consider, in the phrase, “Behind every strong man is a strong woman.”
This is how things were done. This how the game was played.
I’ve been somewhat isolated since my best friend killed himself, a little under three years ago.
He was kind of an odd duck to begin with I suppose, and his divorce f~~~ing wrecked him. PE/Health teacher, not the brightest bulb in the world, but a fairly stand-up guy. The wife got too much child support/etc. after the marriage, but he was teaching in a Blue State, so was financially at least stable. Rural-y area. We hung out a lot. Actually met in a Pentecostal church. Both into motorcycles, trucks, Christian music. A decent dude to hang out with.
Then two women happened to him, and that was that. His ex-wife spent a year or so jerking his ass around, playing the “well, maybe we’ll get back together” game. I suppose she enjoyed making his life Hell. Next, a student – female: red klaxons should be blaring at this point – got a little too friendly with him and he foolishly interacted with her outside of school. He was involved at the local church, where said student also went, but . . . error. Major, major error.
His ex-wife basically taught his two kids to hate him, and it was increasingly looking like the spurned high school chippie was going to file some kind of false charges against him. My buddy started to drink again, etc., and wound up throwing himself to his death while I was out of town.
I like to think there’s a Hell, and that those two crones will one day wind up there.
I was going through my own – and, with any brain cells in my head – last relationship crisis simultaneously. After he offed himself, I wound up going back to my childhood home, largely dazed.
I’ve basically given up on blue pill guys at this point. There’s something about me – even a few years ago – that reads like trouble to most women. Or maybe most women are just c~~~s and hate all of their male’s friends. That could also be it.
Since I’ve been back in South Florida, I haven’t bothered making any new friends, or even attempting to. I’m a short-timer here, and know it. Also . . . being back in a city after having lived in a rural area, it’s a little too creepy. It seems the pills are bluer here, or somesuch.
I don’t know why I haven’t had more friends in my life, although I do sometimes reflect upon that.
"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."
Making friends has always been extremely easy for me.(not the facebook friends)
I pick them very very carefully though, i’m allergic to manginas .
Sadly i haven’t found red pill friends yet , if i ever meet one i’ll happily watch his back for a good 60 years.As time goes on, more of my friends are getting married or they’re blue pillers. I just can’t be around guys like that who are so deluded that they’re miserable. And, I’m not the same person I was 5 years ago. Friends come and go, and I can’t be around poon hounds. Also, most of my friends are pussywhipped, and have to ask if they can go out and hang out with the guys. It’s hard to be friends with someone you don’t respect.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
I have just turned 22. I have never had a best friend and I probably will never have close guy friends. The power of the pussy is just too strong for most men and thats all they care about. All their actions in everyday life revolve around getting the girl, getting the pussy.
I had read it was different with you younger guys, but that was about the gist of it with me too. Any guy that I thought was a close friend would throw our friendship away at the hint of pussy, and everybody acts like that is normal and perfectly reasonable behavior. Rather than make a big deal about it, I just realized that you can’t trust men any more than you can trust women. Actually in fact I learned women are in fact more useful often times, because you can manipulate them directly, whereas you will always need to use a woman to manipulate a man.
a lot of my friends get with women and then their woman tells them “no more friends for you”. Isolating your partner and limiting their contact with their friends and family is a form of abuse and it is all too common for women to do to their partners. Why do they do it? because a woman has no real close friends. She tries to make her boyfriend her whole world and expects him to do the same. Then when he is completely isolated with no friends in the picture, she turns the knife.
I disagree, I think it’s more the above.
Most men are full of s~~~. And I’ve called them on it often. A guy SAYS his wife/gf whatever won’t “let” him do this or that, what he really means is: “I never wanted to do this s~~~ in the first place, now I can point to this woman and get out of it.” I’ve actually called women up plenty of times when a guy tried to pull this s~~~ on me. The women will actually make the guy go through with whatever it was. It’ll kill your friendship with that guy, but that friendship was finished anyway, so at least make the power structure clear. This probably only works if you’re an attractive and younger guy, haven’t done this for a long time, as I’ve gotten older.
I know on here we talk about manginas and white knights and how they’re insufferable. Well they’re about 95% of the population, and just like women, most white knights can’t stand each other either. They fake some sort of solidarity but given half a choice they’d rather stab each other and be done with it.
Just look at how the typical guy treats his “friends.” Put downs, insults, “busting b~~~~” and other bulls~~~ that’s obviously designed to hurt and belittle someone. It’s really the same passive aggressive bulls~~~ women do, and that’s because the average “man” today is pretty just just a female or wannabe female.
Gotta disagree here. I’m sure there are guys who use their wife as an excuse to get out of things. They’ll use their kids or their job too. But if there’s one thing a woman hates, it’s her man going out and having a good time without her. She’ll talk like it’s all good and everything’s fine but it’s not. She’s not stupid. She knows if she says outright you can’t hang with your friends that she’ll be labeled a bitch girlfriend so she gets the message across in other ways. She’ll make him pay for going out and having fun without her. She’ll give the silent treatment, cold shoulder, grumpy attitude, refuse sex, refuse other requests, make more demands, etc. The guy will know what is going on and why and will learn to stay home. Going out means angry wife even if she says “it’s ok”.
I bathe in the tears of single moms.
“That has not always been the case……..”
Well put. It has been a long time since I have witnessed this type of chess playing in action. At least in these types of arrangements it appeared that the wife was doing her part to make the marriage and family situation stronger. It also seemed that they tried to make the husbands home-life enjoyable and there was respect present.
I think you are on to something here. I wonder if the loss of this is truly attributed to the feminist movement or something else? Or maybe it’s because our women (and our society) have degraded to the point that the only thing that interests them is the latest reality TV show.
I think that men spend their days out “slaying dragons” at their job and then come home to the responsibility of family life (if they are married with kids or single with kids). There isn’t a lot of extra time to keep much of a friendship going with anyone outside of that.
For single guys there is more free time. However, I think as you get older and experience life’s blender of pain it just becomes harder to find people to connect with. It becomes lost at the bottom of the heap in daily life. Too many other things take priority.
“That has not always been the case……..”
Well put. It has been a long time since I have witnessed this type of chess playing in action. At least in these types of arrangements it appeared that the wife was doing her part to make the marriage and family situation stronger. It also seemed that they tried to make the husbands home-life enjoyable and there was respect present.
I think you are on to something here. I wonder if the loss of this is truly attributed to the feminist movement or something else? Or maybe it’s because our women (and our society) have degraded to the point that the only thing that interests them is the latest reality TV show.
This type of chess game is almost a completely lost art. I only know about it because my paternal grandmother explained it to me. She had no daughters, nor granddaughters. And she wanted to impart this wisdom on someone, so it was not completely lost.
Women are always manipulative. It is their nature. But, in the past, the a woman’s manipulative nature was used by her to strengthen the family unit, including helping the husband, and not divide divide the family unit.
The husband handled the hard work, that was up front. The wife handled the diplomacy, that was behind the scenes.
Unfortunately, feminism had turned that women’s manipulative nature from a positive aspect for society, into a negative aspect.
It is not that I am against being with someone who is manipulative. Man or woman, everyone is manipulative to a degree. That is how you get freedom and bounties. But, I digress. I just want to find someone who manipulative nature will work for me, and any family I may have, and not against me, and any family I may have.
I stopped seeing all my friends out of high school as one by one their lives became incompatible with decent values. I kept in contact with one of them but he ended up serving time in a Hong Kong prison. I haven’t seen him in years and years. Hopefully I’ll see him again soon as I think his sentence is at an end. But I don’t know if he’ll want to see me after my last letter to him, in which I told him that I was pretty upset that he chose not to tell me anything about what he was doing in Hong Kong. I told him that I probably could have helped him, and that excluding me from the loop said to me that he didn’t trust me.
Can you really be friends with someone where there is no trust?
I find that trust is the key hurdle with making friends.
I find that trust is the key hurdle with making friends.
I agree. Without mutual trust between both parties there can be no friendship.
Good post from Keymaster as always and I remember a couple of years ago I went to one of those Meetup groups that was at a beer festival and I was speaking to the woman who organised it and I said I wasn’t on facebook and she actually said “I don’t trust people who aren’t on facebook”…needless to say I had no interest in speaking to her again and haven’t gone back to that group. Women are pathetic when it comes to facebook and their “friends” on there
anyway slightly strayed off topic and I have always moved from different friend groups since school and then different works but one bloke is probably who I would call a close friend. Unfortunately it is the same old story where he got a girlfriend and she has gradually stopped him seeing me. Even when we do meet up she constantly rings and texts him and if I go round his place she hangs around all night to spoil our gaming sessions. He is completely pussy whipped which is a real shame and he always used to be really independent and go on massive holidays all over the world by himself but she has put a stop to that and has generally taken over his life
Anonymous3“That has not always been the case……..”
Well put. It has been a long time since I have witnessed this type of chess playing in action. At least in these types of arrangements it appeared that the wife was doing her part to make the marriage and family situation stronger. It also seemed that they tried to make the husbands home-life enjoyable and there was respect present.
I think you are on to something here. I wonder if the loss of this is truly attributed to the feminist movement or something else? Or maybe it’s because our women (and our society) have degraded to the point that the only thing that interests them is the latest reality TV show.
This type of chess game is almost a completely lost art. I only know about it because my paternal grandmother explained it to me. She had no daughters, nor granddaughters. And she wanted to impart this wisdom on someone, so it was not completely lost.
Women are always manipulative. It is their nature. But, in the past, the a woman’s manipulative nature was used by her to strengthen the family unit, including helping the husband, and not divide divide the family unit.
The husband handled the hard work, that was up front. The wife handled the diplomacy, that was behind the scenes.
Unfortunately, feminism had turned that women’s manipulative nature from a positive aspect for society, into a negative aspect.
It is not that I am against being with someone who is manipulative. Man or woman, everyone is manipulative to a degree. That is how you get freedom and bounties. But, I digress. I just want to find someone who manipulative nature will work for me, and any family I may have, and not against me, and any family I may have.
Eh, keep in mind you’re basically arguing that this interpretation is correct because a woman told you so.
Women are notorious for making up their own version of reality and generally not actually knowing what they’re talking about. This has not changed in thousands of years, and it really has not changed now.
Historically speaking, there were no corporate office jobs and no promotions given out. You either had a family business, worked on a farm, or were a slave. No matter how good of a peasant/serf you were, you weren’t going to get promoted to noble/aristocrat.
If you started out as a noble, sure maybe some women would play political games with each other, but for the most part the men would call the shots. Women were chattel, and depending on the area and era, were not allowed to own property themselves or do much of anything.
Men of the past were far more likely to want to just be bachelors. With bachelor taxes and exhortations by emperors to marry annoying women, even though they’d also admit how worthless women were.
There was no female positive aspect that built anything. Civilization is built entirely by men, with women not allowed to damage their work. When a civilization becomes wealthy, that is when women come in and destroy everything. These cycles are a very part of humanity apparently.
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