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Wow listening to these stories are inspiring. My story is really in 4 parts. It began in 1989 with my first girlfriend. I was 18 and being young and naive. I supposedly fell in love with this girl. I was head over heels and thought she was my world. Mistake number 1 I worked with this girl. Now weeks into start seeing her she went over to her ex boyfriends house. She calls me up and says it’s wasn’t her fault. What happened is that she had a hickey on her neck. The only reason she told me is she was worried that one of my coworkers would tell me about what happened. Needless to say I let this slide because I believed her. She even continued to talk to him. This goes from bad to worse. A year to this relationship her mother dies unexpectedly. She died in Jamaica. So I thought I had to be there for her. I used to drive her around to get her s~~~ together regarding her mother and her brother. Oh did I tell you that her brother hated me. Yeah it was one of those situations. She had another situation going over to her ex boyfriend and tried to keep it from me. A co-worker told me about and I flipped out. Again being a Mangina I believed her that nothing happened. This all blowed up in the summer when this girl demanded that she wanted to go out to clubs. I knew what happened at clubs with guys and so forth. I tried to stop her. She didn’t listen. This all ended when her and her roommate cornered me and blasted me and she dumped me. I was heartbroken and tried to get back with her for months and it was over. Then through the years I learned about all the guys she f~~~ed at work and then I though about it. I almost wanted for this person to be the mother of my children. That’s how I was thinking. At 24 I saw her and her friends and how they acted and started thinking I didn’t want to have kids with women like this out there.
I moved on and just had open relationships until 2000. Then I met girlfriend number 2. A girl that had a racist father and by the way I’m black. It was supposed to be open and she insisted it would stay open. Then she started asking me where is this going. Am I her girlfriend or what. Then I mentioned her father and then it was a total different story. This went back and forth for a few months then I gave in. Big mistake. One of the things that made me cave with this girl was she cried like Rebecca Howe on the TV show Cheers. I would feel guilty and give in to her wishes. Now she came to Toronto to go to school and she had no money. At one point I lent her money which is a no no. I was able to get the money back though. I would say she was good that way. I guess she didn’t want me to think she was a gold digger. But her emotional problems continued and continued to give in to them. I started to believe at this point these experiences were universal. Were most women this crazy? Moving ahead now I went over to her place on the weekend as I usually did for about a year and she asked me to leave because she was busy at work. Shortly after she gave me the story I wasn’t ambitious enough and didn’t bring a lot to the table and she ended it. She even used the fact about her father no accepting me and it would be big trouble for her family.This time I didn’t fight her on it and went my way.
I went on dated casually for about 2 years and then I discovered something on the radio one winter night. I was driving home from night school and was scanning on the radio. That’s when I discovered him. Tom Leykis. I turned into the channel and he was blasting an 18 year old for having sex without protection. I was really taken back and continued to listen. Then the next caller had a situation of where a better job came up for him and his girlfriend didn’t want him to move. Tom then said don’t you know women are dream killers. I was totally taken back. I got home and I couldn’t get the station in the house since it was in buffalo and I am in Toronto. I continued to listen to the whole show. As soon as the show was over I did a google search on his name and what he was about. The very next day I went to radio shack and bought an antenna to hook up to my stereo so I could listen to his show in the house. Eventually he got taken off because the radio station changed the format in 6 months. Then I was still determined to listen to him. Then I found a whole library and an unofficial online stream. I continued to listen up until 2009 when the flagship radio station changed the format. Then when he came back in 2012 I listened and signed up to his online library.
After that, I started looking for other forums for men issues and so forth. I discovered Mark Rudov, Paul Elam, and even Dick Masterson. Dick was a bit crazy but I listened. Then started reading about laws in my area regarding to marriage, children and child support. I already new most of what I knew from these forums. It just cemented to me it was too much of a risk to get married or even have a relationship. I’m 43 and decided years ago I didn’t want to have children. On March 12 I get that fixed. Oh yes a vasectomy. I decided if I want to have children I’ll adopt as a single parent. Sperm storage and a surrogate mother is a pricey and I won’t have a child by traditional ways. Women can’t be trusted. I learned that long ago. So there’s my story and I left some parts out for time constraints. Looking forward for hearing more.
@kbbroiler: thank you so much for taking time to tell your story here. this is really a great learning center. if you run into any problems here, don’t worry. the ones of us with the big muscle will keep the trolls at bay until a mod shows up and nukes them into oblivion. speak your mind bro. you are safe here. you can count on that.
Thanks listen up and yes I will have more to say definitely!
You can count on me. Carry on men.
I just kept looking around and saw lots and lots of men being treated like s~~~.I have been in only in 2 relationships.And guess what…. i got treated really well…. nah i’m joking i got treated like s~~~.But i didn’t expect anything else.I don’t need something to happen to me to be able to learn about and observe women for what they are.I’ve never ever got the delusion that a woman could love a man and i’m happy i didn’t.
People learn from their mistakes.Smart people learn from the mistakes of others.
To start at the beginning being the outcast at school, at all levels. Going in the military and seeing my buddies pulling the puss and me being so socially awkward that the first time I got a piece I was 20. Getting out of active duty and going Reserve and getting a ok job as a electrician. Leaving that job to hookup with the woman in my introduction who really f~~~ed me over mentally for ten years. You could say my red pill started at birth and I finally managed to choke that big sonofabitch down.
I’ve never really been interested in a relationship of any sort at all to be honest, I have multiple cars (at one stage I had 4 registered and insured cars), live how I want to live and do what I want to do. I’ve never had the urge to have kids, I’m not a fan of children and if I want poon I’m going to get it from women who do it as a profession.
Been working since I was 15, bought my first new car at 17, bought another new car at 20, completed training in an automotive trade including automotive air conditioning and some extra schooling on top in fields such as health and safety as well as government investigations by 23. No university qualifications but f~~~ university for the time being, that can come later.
If my parents and sister have taught me anything its that it sucks being in a relationship, have to put up with too much s~~~, do s~~~ you don’t want to do and spend coin maintaining this bulls~~~, f~~~ that would rather spend money on making my cars go faster.
I’m young, the world is my oyster, opportunity is out there I just need to grab it, I don’t need my dick distracting me.
Learned about MGTOW @ 17, never been with a woman. Lui Marco saved me daily brah, it didnt take much to convince me that men had the short end of the stick. I can say im better off for it.
Anonymous1Well, I had several bad experiences with women in the past (rumors spread about me, back stabbed (not literally though), lied to, all that jazz), but none of them took me off the white knight/mangina path. Although, compared to the stories I read from here, I consider myself goddamn lucky!
No, what led me to mgtow were 2 separated events. Anita Sarkeesean and Dave Foley.
You see, despite all the s~~~ I’ve been through (the ones related to women and not related to them) I’ve always had my hobbies. I have a history of being shy, so I always turned to comics, videogames, RPGs, all that good stuff. When the Anita Sarkeesian histeria started, I though she was just another Jack Thompson and I dismissed her as such. That is, until I saw the huge amount of SUPPORT she was getting. It was insane, I felt I was on a “Twilight Zone” episode. Couldn’t people see the amount of stupidity and blatant sexism against men on her arguments? That was the first time I started to pay attention to what women REALLY though about men.
As I started to research about this, I came across the MGTOW acronym. The nail on the coffin was this video:
Holy s~~~! This video made me swear I would never EVER get married! I got freaking terrified!
Since then, the more stories I hear from other men, the more certain of my conviction I get. I am a sensitive guy, and every time I read/hear a story about what some men had to go through/are going through regarding their kids, I can’t help as to think I don’t know if I would have the strength to pull it off. Hell, by the end of Dave’s video, the thought that crossed my mind was: “If it was me on his place, I would have killed myself a long time ago.” When I realized what I just had though, that’s when I made my decision. The final part, where he admits that he doesn’t know when he is going to see his kids again broke my f~~~ing heart.
So yeah, in order to preserve my sanity and my unborn son/daughters mental/physical health I decided to go MGTOW. I rather trying be happy alone then suffer and make my children suffer because WOMEN don’t have standards/morals and the state don’t have the B~~~~ to make justice prevails.
For all you guys that went through this s~~~storm, or that still are in the middle of it, I SALUTE YOU! Be strong brothers.
Anyway, that’s my story.
Cheers 🙂
Basically when I discovered that attraction and relationship success are very quantifiable.
Seeing my parents’ marriage was a starter. My mother’s emotional/verbal abuse, my father white-knighting for her despite whatever she had done, and them constantly fighting regardless. They had me at 17 years old, and my dad dropped out of school to raise me while my mom either 1) got to attend school to graduate full-time or 2) attend school part-time and work part-time. My parents married in 1989, divorced in 2009 (I was 21 by that time). They split because my father started becoming interested in someone else. I was still a pathetic white knight at the time, so I believed all the things my mother told me, even when she was being verbally abusive towards me. I believed that I wasn’t worth anything (I caught her once talking about me behind my back, calling me a “worthless piece of sh-t”), I believed that my dad indeed left my mother for no good reason, I believed that any woman I dated was “too good for me” and that I was “not good enough for any of them…” I believed everything. Turns out, my dad left her because she cheated on him many times in their 20 year marriage…from as early as year one. He finally woke up to this and left her. Why did he put up with the 20 years of that? For my younger sister and me. He didn’t want to devastate our lives, and so he endured. I was a foolish teenager/young adult and dated anyway, though I think it had to do with me not being allowed to date and being far too interested in the idea of it. From the first girl I dated from when I was 16 to the rest that I have either dated or were “talking” about dating, every one of them (with the exception of maybe one) have either cheated on me, left me to pursue a relationship with a woman, or abandoned the idea of dating me to be with a woman or a man 2-3 times their age that have more significant income than myself. Thanks to my upbringing and how many of the women I’ve encountered in my life have torn me apart, I now have quite severe mental issues thanks to that. I have what’s called “Avoidant Personality Disorder.” (It explains why I’ve apologized for long posts and I’m very apologetic in the first place, by the way…heheh.) Women terrify me now after being physically beat by my most recent ex and having my sister defend her by threatening the police (who have been already proven to be gynocentric when my mom falsified information against the police against my father and myself before) and by my mother who told the girl who beat me “you don’t deserve the anguish he puts you through.” After finally being revealed to things like this site and several YouTube channels, I feel awakened. Anytime I’ve brought up my past to women these days, they ask ME the infamous question: “What did you do to drive your [mother/girlfriend] to do that to you? Women don’t just lash out like that…” That seems to be one of the most annoying questions I’ve ever heard in my life. Are women really that defensive of other women? (Obvious answer: YES)
A lot of the above would relate closely to my parents as well and some aspects of my life. They haven’t divorced yet, but they might as well be. Low self esteem has been a dominant force in my life.
Before all this I had already discounted marriage because of how my parents marriage went. I thought, if I have to get a mother 2.0, then that defeats it. Marriage in all the fantasy bulls~~~ stories was nothing like what I saw in reality.
Anyway my mother once wouldn’t shut her mouth over some stupid s~~~. I was still recovering back then from a mental breakdown and hyped up on doctor issued Prozac, so I wound up pushing her to the floor. To this day I wonder if it wouldn’t have been better to bodyslam her to the ground, for all the years she beat me and terrorized me as a kid, in the name of her idea of ‘parental love’.
Frankly when the day comes when feminism is dead and a woman will do whatever I want, great. Until then its just one-night stands with whatever woman for the sex and that’s it. That’s all they are good for anyway. I don’t have time for their crap.
They wanted their successful career and they wanted sanitized media being ‘respectful’ about their breasts and ass well there goes nature’s way of attraction between a male and female. They believe that having material goods is great, that’s their own fantasy world, especially in a time where it seems there is no recovery but an endless cycle of recessions.
Thanks for the Joe Rogan video, Badkan. I’m seriously hoping to set up some kind of non-profit to help fathers deal with mothers who abuse the legal system. I see it over an over again — women using children to strip men of everything AND destroy the men’s relationships with their kids. Nothing has been more influential in me going MGTOW than that dynamic.
For me, there was no “event”. I think I was born this way. Now that i’m 45 years old…. I realize that iv’e always been a polygamist at heart. Romantic? Yes. But also the realization that I am CLINICALLY unable to take s~~~ from women. I simply won’t put up with it. And I especially don’t give a damn what society thinks.
If I ever get rich, I might have children- and a maid. But the concept of allowing myself to become financially or judicially vulnerable to ANY woman is laughable for me. Any woman who tries to boss my around will find out VERY QUICKLY where she stands.
My advice to younger men? Be nice. Be gentlemen. But keep your guard up and don’t let women sucker you in or take advantage of you… or tell you what to do. Any females in your life, you let them know that YOU run your life. Not them. And they can mind their own business. Remember that your a MAN, and YOU are the boss.
“Learned about MGTOW @ 17, never been with a woman. Lui Marco saved me daily brah, it didnt take much to convince me that men had the short end of the stick. I can say im better off for it.”
Many MGTOW here still see women. We just don’t make ourselves vulnerable anymore. Use birth control… no marriage without a pre nup. Women are f#cking PSYCHO kid. That said… don’t be afraid to date a woman if you really like her. MGTOW is about protecting YOU from society, women, and the common mistakes men have made.
Hanging out with MGTOW will definitely improve your chances of NOT making dumb and horrible mistakes. 😉
“Batcave” is hard core. But it’s all true…. very good at pointing out the “negatives” in the modern social dynamics.
Q: What was the event that led me to embrace the MGTOW lifestyle ?
A: Well there are four events / revelations actually.
1) The last girlfriend I had, I used to be in love with her for 4 years and chased her for that period before proposing. Yeah, talk about being a massive pussy-fied wimp. What did I get ? After 6 months or so, she just left and hooked up with another guy. Didn’t tell me anything, didn’t even give any signs. She just left.
2) You know that there are stages in a romantic relationship ? Mine always failed when the woman tries to control you, to make you her bitch, usually using passive aggressiveness, guilt tripping and not putting out. Eventually, I realized this pattern and realized that even though I have flaws, romantic relationships with the human female are relations~~~s because they will always try to control you, try to make you into what you are not, trying to turn you into a utilitarian drone. If they succeed, they eventually get bored of you and move onto some other schmuck. If they fail, they and their hive minded girl friends eject you unceremoniously.
3) There is no such thing as NAWALT. A NAWALT is an AWALT in camouflage. The special female goddess is merely the Greek Siren in disguise. For practical purposes, this applies to all women out there. The number of true NAWALTs are infinitesimally small, its like looking through the haystack for a specific microbe. They might as well not exist. If they exist, never get into a romantic relations~~~ with them because then they become irrational. That is the paradox of the human female. If she is truly not like that, in order to keep her that way, you have to not introduce romantic love into the equation.
4) Stardusk. I used to play video games together with him, mainly Mass Effect 3 multiplayer and during that time, he shared his insights and introduced me to MGTOW. I have always been an intellectually curious person and I lapped up both the Red Pill and MGTOW philosophy like a starved African kid being presented with a first class buffet. I hope he gets his own MGTOW Jet soon, though Stardusk is more of a sci-fi fan so I suppose he would appreciate a MGTOW Spaceship more.
So a combination of those four things and events…That is what made me to walk the MGTOW path since 2012…
It was subconscious for me. Pretty much always went my own way, i think it was a cultural thing for me. I grew up in the north end of winterpeg. Too white to be native, too native to be white, too french to be english, and too english to be french. I guess i was too borderline in everything. 2 social experiments (marriages)that came up negative, being a s’mhore for years in between experiments and after, raising a daughter alone(won sole custody). Retiring from the army after almost 25 years of service (mostly following the rules )in 2006. The big red pill hit me… Holy McRat F~~~ Batman, I stopped doing everything I liked doing because it was “selfish”. I should have figured it out when I was told I was an awesome soldier, just a s~~~ty human being. ROTFLMAO
So i gave the fickle finger of fate salute to the world, bought a pick up, a motorcycle, rifles, fishing and camping gear, go out in nature when i want to, and I am at peace with myself. that is all that matters to me, approval is a word on a loan application 😛
There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Hey there guys, just joined. Not familiar with the rules or community, but I just had to get this out my chest.
I’m 22 years old. I’ve never had a woman in my personal life, mainly because I’m attending college to achieve my goals in getting into the cinema business.
There’s this girl in college, let’s call her Denise. She sat next to me multiple times during a class we shared. I’m not much of a talker so we didn’t converse much. I found her to be a little cute, but nothing more. She could’ve had a better fashion sense.
During a lunch break, my two friends (let’s call one of them “Aaron”) pestered me whether I liked her. Naturally I said no. They persisted in their questioning, but I persisted in my lying. I don’t break that easily.
The class ends for the term, and I thought “Well, guess I won’t be see her anymore.”
Oh, how wrong I was.
Next semester, she’s in one of my classes. And she cut and dyed her hair. God damn did she look good! Fashion still needed work though, but damn!
As time grew on, she wasn’t just cute anymore, she was attractive. To the point where I had intimate thoughts about her. It was transforming into a crush. Normally I wouldn’t have developed these feelings for her, but perhaps my friends’ questioning had some placebo effect.
One day Aaron asked me to help shoot a wedding. Naturally I said yes. Anything to help that guy. Now, I didn’t believe in marriage (I can thank my parents’ horrible and failed marriage for that belief), but as a camera operator you can’t let your feelings and beliefs get in the way of work. And besides, I needed more experience with camera work. He also asked two others to help; one of them being a guy (“Bob”) whom I knew barely, another was a girl whom I never met. Just the four of us.
While waiting for my friend to show up for work, I saw a car pull up at the parking lot, and I caught a glimpse of the person driving.
It was Denise.
F~~~ my life.
She was good friends with Bob, and I overheard that Aaron asked her last minute to help shoot the wedding. I thought to myself, “Well, isn’t that f~~~ing great!” To this day, I wonder if Aaron asked her for help just to play matchmaker.
She then sits next to me and attempts to make conversation. Now, if you knew me, you know that any attempt at conversing with me doesn’t last five seconds at most. I’m a really f~~~ed up person who can’t talk to others. I get social anxiety in groups of people, and I avoid them whenever possible.
The conversation we had at least lasted three minutes (a personal best). Somewhere along the line, she said that “You’re so awkward.” Now, I’ve been called “strange” and “weird”, but I’ve never been called awkward. And looking back, what took people so long? And how did I not see that before?
The wedding takes place, the couple says I do, we shoot the damn thing, and now it’s time for the wedding dinner to take place (which we shot too). The bride ordered me to eat since I was filming her for a solid hour and I was working too hard. Up to this point, I was pretty professional.
Then I figured who I will be sitting and eating in front of.
You guessed it.
She attempted conversation with me again. That too was short lived. I tried to avoid eye contact with her, and I was pretty successful. But it wasn’t enough. Torture, I say. There were bottles of wine sitting before me. I got drunk only one time, and being hungover was such a terrible feeling I told myself I would never get drunk again.
However, the social anxiety was too much; Aaron invited his other friends, everybody talked like they knew each other. But the real nail coffin was this: Denise walked with another guy to the restaurant bar, and they ordered drinks. That made me reach for the bottle. Four drinks later, I’m drunk off my ass. I would have gotten alcohol poisoning if Aaron hadn’t stop me from getting another bottle. Too drunk to operate a car and a camera, Aaron drove me home. God bless that man.
Two days later, I met her again. We talked about me getting drunk. It was a pleasant conversation at my expense; she thought I got drunk because I wanted to get the hell out of there. I just told her it was because “I got carried away.” Pretty sure she didn’t buy that, but not that I mind. So long as she really doesn’t know.
The rest of the semester between us was just simple small talk. Next semester rolls by, and she’s not in my classes. We see each other in the halls, but I sometimes don’t make eye contact (like I said, I’m socially f~~~ed up).
Despite all of this, I really do like her.
One day, Aaron invited me to a club meeting for people in the cinema program. Denise is in those club meetings regularly. I said yes; I didn’t have anything better to do, and I wanted to see her again.
Today, the meeting happened, and I’m wondering where she is since she’s a bit late. Typical, you worry about the little things about the object of your affections. She comes in eventually, and I’m disappointed because she sits down near Bob, another regular at the meetings, instead of me. Oh well, maybe the meeting won’t be so bad.
Halfway through, I hear Denise and Bob whisper my name, look at me, and laugh a bit. I guessing they thought that they wouldn’t hear me, but I did. Now correct me if I’m wrong, but in my experience, whenever someone does that, it’s usually not a good thing. At first I told myself to just ignore it, but my mind didn’t agree with me. I suspected that they were trash talking me. That’s because when I got drunk at the wedding, everyone else had to carry my workload.
Now who knows, I could be wrong about everything, but I became anxious because of that. Then Aaron told us to talk to other club members, and that is when my anxiety blew up. I contained myself, but I was really “damaged.” I shut myself down. I turned to my prayer beads, which I took from my car a couple of weeks ago. I thought I needed them for today, and goddamn I was right. I don’t believe in Buddhism, but I’m not against it. I heard that as long as you use the beads whenever you feel vexed, then it’s OK. Thank goddess for that prayer bead bracelet; if I didn’t have it, I would be in a worse state.
Hours later at home, I was still affected by what had happened. “I can’t believe they trashed talked me within sight and earshot!”, was the main thought in my mind. I was hyperventilating while driving home, and I was doing so now.
After some thinking, I then realized I let myself be controlled by some girl that I liked. Regardless of whether they trashed talked me, I let myself be controlled by her. I did things that I normally didn’t do, like get drunk. I’m too much of a cheap-ass to buy alcohol, I’ve always preferred soda anyway. My realization reminded me of my stance against marriage; that it was the metaphoric death of a man.
Then, there was salvation.
I googled “what does a man gain from marriage,” and I saw the MGTOW website about comments from married men. I’ll tell you, it was an eye opener, but more importantly, it gave me strength. It filled me with resolve to never get married, and more importantly, to never have a woman control your behavior and free will. Thank you, fellow men, you’ve empowered me when I was frustrated and miserable. I’ll do my best to remember your comments whenever a woman manipulates me, whether she forcefully controls me or whether I allow myself to be controlled.
And I apologize for the very long post late at night. I’m mostly likely wrong about them trash talking me but I had to get this off my chest.
What was done to you on purpose or otherwise was 1) making her presence known 2) creating a void and 3) being hurtful toward you. Now, hopefully other men will add their comments to help you here. In the meantime here’s my two cents. When a waitress short changes the customer, the rule is, it is always the waitresses fault. this is the industry standard. that being said, when a “LAYDEEZ” speaks your name loud enough for you to hear it, she IS the one responsible, she is the guilty party and knows damn well what she’s doing. If the shoe were on the other foot would you have done that to her? I don’t think so. A lighter warmup for you is to interact with people…sales people…church people… just conversation. People mostly like it when you ask them a question that’s in their area of expertise. LISTEN, really listen to them. Improve your second questions. Allow them to lead. etc.
Bottom line: do not let her get you down, she was the one after you. Also, you didn’t say to her, “why, aren’t you the persistant one?” so IGNORE her “you’re awkward” statement, who the frick does she think she is………….D.N.E. she DoesNotExist in your mind anymore. She’s improving her skillset so she can get the ultimate Alpha……………who will Dump her. Just don’t fall prey when she’s looking for the provider. Provider with a bus ticket…away.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Anonymous1I would say this: stay away from these people.
If you think they are trashing you, then they are probably doing worse. So if you don’t want to get hurt (badly) just walk away. I know the feeling, your story is too familiar. In the end is not worthy.
Can’t talk right now, will expand on this later.
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