Understanding Islam from a Non Musslim point of view

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The Moth Attracted to the Flame wrote:

This might help a little.

Oh, this would really help alot if they would show that to the masses on tv.

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Anonymous wrote:

Oneforfreedom wrote:

Look up “Sacking of Constantinople”

Yes that was in 1204, not one month ago. Im not saying other religions have never been violent. This post was about religions currently affecting us.

Kind of interesting you said that, considering this statement made by someone else:

Anonymous wrote:

Holy crap, your mind is gone. At what point am I talking about the Christian crusades? I am talking about modern day s~~~, and per usual, guys like you choose to ignore facts and keep s~~~ting on Muslims…

But I agree, at this point, Islam is not looking like a peaceful religion to abide by. Is it possible to name people other than those in the Islamic state that unconditionally murdered children because they were disabled, regardless of the disability?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3358840/How-depraved-ISIS-Group-s-Sharia-judges-order-children-s-syndrome-disabilities-killed-chilling-echo-Nazis.html

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Keymaster wrote:

You want to “Understanding Islam??? GO TO AN ISLAMIC FORUM!!!”
That would be completely reasonable.

Sounds reasonable, but its not.
No muslim will explain you Islam, they will just advertise for it.
They must try to get you into islam according to their book.
They also may lie to you to get you into islam, its allowed to them.

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Anonymous wrote:

I shouldn’t have brought up religion….Its the most sensitive topic on the god damn planet.

But that’s not a good enough reason to make a personal policy to avoid it. Because others are sensitive? Who gives a s~~~ about that. A violent religious nutcase (in the name of any “god”) doesn’t care about “sensitivity” when a bomb is strapped to his chest.

A better reason is to realize that “religion” and “politics” are to facts and reality what Art is to Math. NO ONE PERSON can remain objective to all sides – nor understand it. The scope of these topics is too vast to comprehend.

Too much is also open for misintepretation, misunderstanding, not knowing everything about it, not being “raised that way”. Two people can look at exactly the same thing and see something totally different… and because it’s 100% BELIEF-BASED (UNLIKE MGTOW) they can both totally believe they are right! … and they will blow each other to bits over it.

“I see a monet”.

“I see a Jeff Koons”.

“F~~~ you. It’s a Monet.”.

“F~~~ you harder it’s a Jeff Koons”.

That’s a religious debate to any observer.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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The Moth Attracted to the Flame wrote:

Kind of interesting you said that, considering this statement made by someone else:

I know I said that about the crusades.

I said that to agree with him. That not only Islam could be seen as violent but the thread got way taken out of context.

I did read back though and he was talking about the Iraq war committing violence on muslims. Not other religions. So I did mis read but I didn’t say anything because he was extremely provoked.

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Keymaster wrote:

But that’s not a good enough reason to make a personal policy to avoid it. Because others are sensitive? Who gives a s~~~ about that. A violent religious nutcase (in the name of any “god”) doesn’t care about “sensitivity” when a bomb is strapped to his chest.

True. I just don’t want to stir s~~~ on this website. Because its a good one haha.

The main reason why I wanted to post to begin with is because no other website would give even an ounce of genuine thought to the topic and just brand you as ignorant.

Even the ones that disagreed at least you provided some substance and thought instead of trivial names. For the most part.

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I’m posting this video again.

It’s not about Muslims or Islam. Just as it’s not about Germans and Germany.

AGAIN … what it’s about is tyranny.

That can come from anyone, anywhere and anytime.

Hilter, Pol Pot, Mao, Khan, Henry 8th, Ivan, Robespierre, Stalin, Pinochet, KJ II … there simply isn’t enough paper in the world to list them all.

The problem?

The silent peaceful majority are F~~~ING IRRELEVANT.

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Personally I think in the US we have nothing to worry about. However Europe is a different issue.

[kizellParticipant 368]

If anyone wishes to understand islam, read chapter 9 of Christopher Hitchens book “god is not great.”

The best literature on islam comes from secular sources. This whole notion that Muslims and Muslim apologists are the true experts is bulls~~~. Having traveled to the middle east and asked questions about the Koran to man people in jordan and turkey, this seemed obvious to me.

From chapter 9:

“But islam when examined is not much more than a rather obvious and ill-arranged set of plagiarisms, helping itself from earlier books and traditions as occasion appeared to reqiure…..islam in its origins is just as shady and approximate as those from which it took its borrowings. It makes immense claims for itself, invokes prostrate submission or surrender as a maxim to its adherents, and demands deference and respect from nonbelievers into the bargain. There is nothing -absolutely nothing- in its teachings that can even begin to justify such arrogance and presumption. “

[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

Ok guys I’m going to throw my bit in. I personally despise all religion. A Muslim asked me once if I was a Christian. I said, no I’m an Atheist. And I don’t kill anyone. And I have no thoughts of killing anyone. And I try to avoid any religious conflict.
You’ve only got to look at the few topics that have come up on this forum over the last few days, with a Muslim / Religious theme. These threads are the only one’s I’ve seen that have shown any real divisive attitudes among members. I’m not saying there is anything wrong with opinion and free speech but Religion always invokes friction. Lets take this into the whole wide world and this friction becomes animosity, hatred, war and death.
As some of you know I’m from Portsmouth in the UK. We have a large Muslim population, as is the case in most UK cities now. 35 years ago there were a handful of curry shops, now whole districts of the city are Muslim areas. Three Muslims joined ISIS, two were killed, one returned. His own Mother turned him in to the police. Not because of what he did but because she was worried he would be killed if he went back.
As a cabby, not only have I picked up many Muslim fares, our firm have many Muslim drivers. One driver who I know quite well considers himself a moderate Muslim. However he feels the UK will one day succumb to Sharia law and he sees this as a good thing. So his moderate opinion is our extreme opinion. This is the problem. Their culture will never agree with western culture and under no circumstances will they ever change their views and blend in with us. They have their own communities and keep to themselves. I’m not saying they will pick up arms but the ‘Silent Terrorist’ is just as dangerous as the ‘Extreme terrorist’.
I have had friendly Muslim customers and not so friendly. I’ve been spat on, verbally abused and had money thrown at me, as they get out the car and leave the door open, simply for being non-Muslim. We have a lot of Middle Eastern students in the city. These come from rich families and are usually the polite ones. I take many of them to and from the airport. One told me once he fears for Europe with the refugee problem. In his words he said….
“You are taking in the scum of the Muslim world. This is good for us but very bad for you. They will strip you of wealth, rape your women and will show no regard for your laws. Being caught and imprisoned will still be a better life than the one they had. They have no education or any will to work. They are parasites in our society and now they are yours.”
As the terrorist problem has progressed over the years, I have read parts of the Koran to try and understand why they act as they do. To be honest it appears to me the terrorists are actually carrying out those teachings. Those who want to live a peaceful life distort these teachings for their belief and benefit, but still refuse to join in with our society.
I’m not going to even go into the disgrace that was ‘Sheffield’ and all the other Muslim related things that have happened in the UK, but I do know that I will never relate to their culture however much the UK government tries to brain wash us.
One fare I had once was a young girl waiting outside with several black bin liners full of her gear. She was in tears. She was 17 and wanted to go to college. Her Father took offense to that, disowned her and kicked her out on the street.
I don’t care what color, race, religion you are. Under no circumstances do you ever do that to your child.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

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goodkid43 wrote:

To Space Monkey,
Typical. You cannot address the argument of the messenger, so you do the feminist thing, you attack the messenger. By the way, I sold a delivery business in 1992 for mid six figures and retired for ten years.
I have met people like you. You assert certain philosophical phrases hoping that no one will challenge you on your superficial understanding of philosophy. However, since you are a member of this site, you will learn the error of your ways.
God bless, Michael

I guess you get a lot of time to day dream while flipping burgers….

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

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Bestieboy666 wrote:

Ok guys I’m going to throw my bit in.

Glad you did and very well said.

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

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Still going strong I see :^), Trump predicted Brussels the writing is on the wall take off those political correctness glasses lives are at stake. Islam is evil read their book Muhammad wants non-believers dead or enslaved. Can’t Stump The Trump

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