Understanding Islam from a Non Musslim point of view

[Anonymous 7]

If you would truly like to learn about Islam and Trump (2016) anyone in conversations read this book.

This book is made to be simple hence the name and mainly discusses in what ways it affects Non Musslims because why should we care about the religion. (This is stated in the book)

A Simple Koran

Free PDF
https://www.politicalislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/PDF-Look-Inside/A_Simple_Koran_look_inside.pdf

The normal Koran is purposefully put out of order so it is harder to understand. It is placed from longest to shortest length of the story wise. Mohammad also states that the Koran cannot be intellectually observed and it is punishable by death.

Possibly a reason why feminism and Islam go hand in hand.

Kafir = Non Musslim
Kafirs can be killed, raped, forced into slavery, and tortured. All not just permitted but promoted by the Koran.

[RebalancedParticipant 346]

Would you learn MGTOW from a feminist?

Then why would you learn about a faith from someone outside of it? Especially if they can’t understand classical Arabic like the author of that book.

I lived and worked in the Middle East long enough to know the Arabic language and to be able to read The Quran for myself and to know that the book you posted here is full of lies, such as the ones you quoted.

The man can’t even spell Quran correctly (which any person with basic knowledge of Arabic could) yet we’re supposed to trust his knowledge of the Qur’an which is in Arabic?! Yeah right.

I don't need pussy

[Anonymous 7]

Rebalanced wrote:

Would you learn MGTOW from a feminist?

Then why would you learn about a faith from someone outside of it? Especially if they can’t understand classical Arabic like the author of that book.

I lived and worked in the Middle East long enough to know the Arabic language and to be able to read The Quran for myself and to know that the book you posted here is full of lies, such as the ones you quoted.

The man can’t even spell Quran correctly (which any person with basic knowledge of Arabic could) yet we’re supposed to trust his knowledge of the Qur’an which is in Arabic?! Yeah right.

It is the present state of knowledge of the West about Islam that there is no standardized spelling of proper Arabic nouns. Examples: Muslim/ Moslem, Mohammed/Muhammad, Koran/Quran.

And its a translation while the author may be taking only certain readings out to get a view across its still a translation

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Anonymous wrote:

Mohammad also states that the Koran cannot be intellectually observed and it is punishable by death.

This is all you need to understand about Islam:

Religion of peace my ass. Honor killings, beheadings for being gay. Barbarians have no place in this country.

Any organization/belief/association/grouping of people that could allow this to happen deserves to be banned from entering the US or any civilized country. Period.

And this is not an isolated incident.

Here’s the original NY Times video for any interested:

http://nyti.ms/1VjByVK

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[RebalancedParticipant 346]

In Arabic there is standardized spelling so you just proved one of my original points further. Anyone who doesn’t know that is not qualified to speak about something they haven’t a clue about.

As for what dick posted, just because someone did it doesn’t mean its part of the Islamic faith, the IRA are Catholic Christian, is that part of Christianity and Christianity a religion of war too?!

Anyway, I don’t have time to go back and forth on this. A lot of Muslims are already MGTOW but the likes of you would rather act like a woman and alienate them with your stereotypes.

I don't need pussy

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Rebalanced wrote:

the IRA are Catholic Christian, is that part of Christianity and Christianity a religion of war too?!

No. The IRA is following christ?
Not even the catholic church is following christ, they are following the pope.
You mean only because they are naming themselves christian means they are? I mean do you know anything at all?

[Anonymous 7]

Rebalanced wrote:

In Arabic there is standardized spelling

Exactly this is a translation. If you look at texts written in the west different forms are used.

In Arabic it is القرآن‎

I am learning about this to see how it affects me. Not learning to follow the religion.

To your above statement about learning mgtow from a feminist.

This is a translation.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Rebalanced wrote:

As for what dick posted, just because someone did it doesn’t mean its part of the Islamic faith, the IRA are Catholic Christian, is that part of Christianity and Christianity a religion of war too?!

Show me a single incident where AN ENTIRE CROWD of christians (or any other religion for that matter), beat a women to death and mutilated and burned her body on the mere *accusation* of heresy(burning a koran)?

Go on, I DARE YOU. Show me anything compares even a little.

If it truly was as you and your ilk suggest, only one or two rogue actors, then we would accept that and move on. But it isn’t.

Show me a single time where a christian killed someone because they drew the wrong cartoon?

Go on, I dare you.

Tell me, how many people died because of this cartoon?:

http://www.theonion.com/article/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image-29553

What if Mohammed was in there with them? How many would have died then?

Why can’t you simply admit that a HUGE number of the followers of Islam are genuinely barbaric?

93% of people surveyed in Egypt believe the penalty for leaving Islam should be death. Show me anything even close to that in the Christian world.

Your s~~~ religion makes Scientology look good.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

There is a constant ideological trap extremist of the ideology (or other ideologies) use to always trip up constructive debate and critics.

You need to attack Islamic CULTURE, not individuals. The culture of islam should not be beyond criticism.

To deflect warranted criticism, extremists or their supporters try to trip up critics with “your going to alienate/offend/incite/etc muslims”. They simply can’t handle reason, criticism, and want to stop discussion and debate of what they believe.

So while you think you are doing a service to muslims, what’s actually happening is you are actually playing into a trap to trip up reformers with your empathy. If you think I’m making this up, look at how the media portrays serious political reformers and outsiders as “racists/bigots/misogynist/etc”.

It’s a real propaganda strategy, and smart people always fall for it because their ego puts their reasoning and thinking in check.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

You guys are trying to understand Islam and begin by fighting over the spelling of words.

This should be good, pass the popcorn.

btw: Is Musslim a word?

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Big Boss wrote:

ou need to attack Islamic CULTURE, not individuals. The culture of islam should not be beyond criticism.

*T*H*A*N*K *Y*O*U*

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Anonymous 7]

@ Puffin Stuff

Its Muslim sorry about that.

And rebalanced if you truly believe Islam is peaceful, show me the evidence. Dont start off with spelling.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Saturn ? Satan?

[NewgroundsParticipant 558]

Isis isn’t doing anything Muhammad would disapprove of or wouldn’t do himself. Muhammad an illiterate warlord from 600s plagiarizes the Torah and the old testament to write himself in there and calls himself a prophet and takes over villages with the sword. A religion of peace? no. The Extremists/terrorists who follow his teachings 100% are the suicide bombers and honor killers the moderates who condemn such acts pick and choose what they want to follow from the book and preform Taqqiya (lying to non-believers about the content of the Koran or practices of the religion or culture) and say that Islam is a religion of peace when it was founded on bloodshed,rape,conquest, pedophilia,lies, and mass brainwashing.

|Right Wing Death Squad| Swallowed both Red Pills /pol/MGTOW

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

German T: Not…sure…if…serious

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

@ Lottery

I have no opinion on the mater. I know very little about it and I can’t even spell English words without spell check, though English is my native language and the only one I know. I’m just trying to understand.

Great thread. We need to understand the Muslim perspective. Especially now. I’m working on learning about the history of the Muslim’s as I feel completely under-educated on the mater.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

German T: Not…sure…if…serious

serious!

[goodkid43Spectator 550]

Biggvs says”

“Why can’t you simply admit that a HUGE number of the followers of Islam are genuinely barbaric?”

Nothing is more barbaric than killing the most innocent in the womb….. The end result of Feminism…..

[SpacemonkeyParticipant 1481]

The only translation you need;

islam = submission

muslims must submit to allah.

Kafir must submit to muslims.

The verse of the sword, chapter 9 verse 5, is very clear about this. When a new country is conqured by islam it’s people are given 3 “holy months” ( Most agree this actually equates to 1 year ) to convert to islam or lose there head. If the kafir is christian or jew they have the option to pay a tax or jizya. Non christians/jews have no such option, it is a choice of convert to islam or die. I guess athiests would be included in this group.

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

[SpacemonkeyParticipant 1481]

goodkid43 wrote:

Nothing is more barbaric than killing the most innocent in the womb….. The end result of Feminism…..

I think that is the worst straw man I have ever seen.

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

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