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You can try to teach children from right and wrong but until they learn for themselves through trail and error they really will not get some lessons in life until they actually live it. Humans are not computers that you can program them a certain way they evolve over time and their thought process, ideology, and education is given to them by parents, teachers and society as a whole. So although you can guide a daughter or son in a certain direction there are other factors that can and will change the course you want for them for better or worse. You can’t blame anyone for this as this is called life they are the only ones that will be able to live it for themselves at the end of the day.
Anonymous16You can try to teach children from right and wrong but until they learn for themselves through trail and error they really will not get some lessons in life until they actually live it. Humans are not computers that you can program them a certain way they evolve over time and their thought process, ideology, and education is given to them by parents, teachers and society as a whole. So although you can guide a daughter or son in a certain direction there are other factors that can and will change the course you want for them for better or worse. You can’t blame anyone for this as this is called life they are the only ones that will be able to live it for themselves at the end of the day.
True, im the only one of my brothers with a honor code, my brother lived the “good” life now he is dead (died 23), and my sister shes a total slut.
her words “I enjoy men, if one leaves or get boring, i get another one, there is plenty of men who wanna be with me”.
WTF AND WE WHERE RAISED IN SAME WAY.
The problem is now society promote this.
And most people are too weak to do the rigth thing, they give up into temptation too easily.True, im the only one of my brothers with a honor code, my brother lived the “good” life now he is dead (died 23), and my sister shes a total slut.
her words “I enjoy men, if one leaves or get boring, i get another one, there is plenty of men who wanna be with me”.
WTF AND WE WHERE RAISED IN SAME WAY.
The problem is now society promote this.
And most people are too weak to do the rigth thing, they give up into temptation too easily.Sorry to read your brother died my condolences. I agree with what you said there is a reason that old saying of black sheep in the family has come about over the years you can teach each child the exact same things but not all will turn out exactly the same because we are human and no two people are alike even identical twins when it comes to the brain and learning.
What I wonder about is the other side of the MGTOW bridge. Is it a side of solitude and nihilism – or is it one where men understand that to ride a wild horse that he must first (relearn to) control it.
Its not solitude, you can b alone all by your selft or alone surrounded by people wich is even worst.
And i dont want to control anyone. People cant and should not be controled. You can control a horse but you cant control people, we tend to look for freedom. the more your restrain the harder they figth.But there is diference betwin freedom and debauchery the last one comes when morality is lost.
My own thoughts are that honor and integrity; the most important of manly values have been lost through the social engineering of the left.
The world has been overrun by all manner of falsehoods. False money, false principles, false philosophies.
The engineers of this dystopia have made replies like the one above about fathers of daughters saying they have no problem with their very own daughters being sluts and ruining men.
That’s the sort of hypocrisy that the social engineering and mental programming of today creates.
I agree that morality is the key. The fight here as I see it is a fightback for morality although some are unaware of this.
excuse me f~~~ wit i would have a problem if my daughter was a slut.You are a low f~~~ing life slut that has come here from pof because you are probably a fat f~~~ing c~~~ that was getting no attention.
A big red flag is not once you have stood up and argued here that you are a man.You are trying to keep ya head f~~~ attention seeking s~~~ going.
Go jack hammer your pussy for half hour and just f~~~ing tell the truth for once in ya f~~~ing life you are a woman.For f~~~s sake i will give you attention if you just tell the truth.truth.truth.truth.
FarrrrrrrrrkTHE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Anonymous16Go jack hammer your pussy for half hour and just f~~~ing tell the truth for once in ya f~~~ing life you are a woman.For f~~~s sake i will give you attention if you just tell the truth.truth.truth.truth.
FarrrrrrrrrkRelax bro.
Hakuna matata.Go jack hammer your pussy for half hour and just f~~~ing tell the truth for once in ya f~~~ing life you are a woman.For f~~~s sake i will give you attention if you just tell the truth.truth.truth.truth.
FarrrrrrrrrkRelax bro.
Hakuna matata.F~~~ her.I don’t want my daughters to be sluts.
Thats what she thinks of mgtow dads with daughters.
She is an evil sly lying c~~~.How dare she paint that picture of mgtow dads.F~~~ing low life fat slut.THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
My idea is that society is not going to collapse: society has changed and it’s going to change even more.
MGTOW is about men dealing with such changes, protecting ourselves.
Women know that MGTOW is bad for them: because more and more men will not give a flying f~~~ about women, more and more women will lost their sexual/marriage market value.
What did you expected, ladies? That men giving up to their gender role of being providers and protectors would have resulted in a positive outcome for women? AHAHAHAHHAHAH! 😀
Do you really think that there will be many men willingly to marry post wall or wall-approaching overused c~~~s, most times already having children? AND MAKING EFFORTS TO CHASE SUCH KIND OF WOMEN? AHAHAHAHAH! 😀I’m looking forward for a richer and still decent looking woman tirelessly courtshipping me: if she wish to have a chance, then that’s the path she should take.
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When I posted the first post I didn’t really see the angle of blaming men for the actions of their daughters.
I have three sons so I didn’t really expect the backlash from fathers of daughters here.
There’s no doubt that there are many factors that influence the raising if children. Both parents must instil the right values and educate their children with respect to their roles.
I make no apologies for my own more traditional values about what the role of being a father means.
Our children both male and female deserve our utmost endeavours to make the world better.
We all sense that the system is broken. As a married man even I see the pitfalls and the pain of men being downtrodden by societies attitudes towards men. I acknowledge the validity of MGTOW as a path for men.
What I wonder about is the other side of the MGTOW bridge. Is it a side of solitude and nihilism – or is it one where men understand that to ride a wild horse that he must first (relearn to) control it.
Bulls~~~, you get solitude and nihilism in a relationship with women.
And I don’t view women as horses you misogynistic asshole. I view them as humans like men and equally capable to taking their own responsibilities. You are a misogynistic asshole for not believing women can be responsible for themselves and need man to control them.
Strong independent women can take care of themselves without poking men to come back to the plantation.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
MGTOW is about men being free, and not caring about women.
Yep!
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
in the Islamic world where women are curtained and oppressed
Cowards deserve nothing better than oppression.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
What I wonder about is the other side of the MGTOW bridge. Is it a side of solitude and nihilism – or is it one where men understand that to ride a wild horse that he must first (relearn to) control it.
Right here is where you lose the point. It’s not my job to “tame the horse”. The horse is a fully functioning human being that can tame itself. It used to be nice enough to be around, now it’s not. And until the horse realizes its poor behavior and chooses to be more civil to me, then I will avoid the horse. IT’S NOT MY F~~~ING JOB TO FIX THINGS!!! I DIDN’T BREAK IT. When women clean up their own mess, then there will a choice to make. Until then, not my circus, not my monkey.
That is the key point of MGTOW that you don’t understand. I’m not looking for an end game. That requires effort on my part, and effort to fix what women broke. I’m not going to spend what time I have left on Earth fixing what they broke while they sit on their ass wondering where all the good men are. My effort will be put toward MY happiness.
Pretty simple concept.
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MGTOW can only be a means to an end. Going one’s own way forevermore is not a logical option unless one’s aim is the end of humanity.
You’re thinking in macro terms. And obviously, if everyone is MGTOW, then there will be no reproduction. But just as with economics, macro and micro are at odds with each other. It’s my job to worry about what’s best for me (micro), the government is there deal with macro, keeping humanity from ending.
So what is the goal or the desired end?
My own happiness and those that I care about.
So what is the goal or the desired end? It can’t be “equality” again whatever that means. It must mean that what needs to be controlled is controlled once more.
Again? Whenever have we ever had real equality? I would be up for actual equality, where no one is given an advantage based on their race or gender. Control is not an option…the cats out of the bag.
I honestly don’t think we’ll get there. We may swing closer to equality at times, but human nature is geared towards favoring women when women are given an equal voice resources are relatively abundant.
Ok. Then do it.
What I wonder about is the other side of the MGTOW bridge. Is it a side of solitude and nihilism – or is it one where men understand that to ride a wild horse that he must first (relearn to) control it.
Right here is where you lose the point. It’s not my job to “tame the horse”. The horse is a fully functioning human being that can tame itself. It used to be nice enough to be around, now it’s not. And until the horse realizes its poor behavior and chooses to be more civil to me, then I will avoid the horse. IT’S NOT MY F~~~ING JOB TO FIX THINGS!!! I DIDN’T BREAK IT. When women clean up their own mess, then there will a choice to make. Until then, not my circus, not my monkey.
That is the key point of MGTOW that you don’t understand. I’m not looking for an end game. That requires effort on my part, and effort to fix what women broke. I’m not going to spend what time I have left on Earth fixing what they broke while they sit on their ass wondering where all the good men are. My effort will be put toward MY happiness.
Pretty simple concept.
The analogy is poor I admit but in terms of the overall topic let me try to explain.
If the grown woman is the wild horse then one may not care to tame or ride it any further.
But that woman is a daughter. If she was brought up better and her virtue was protected by her fathrr there would be no need to fix or tame the woman.
I disagree with the teenage dating mentality of Americans and believe that dating culture is what has brought you guys to where you’re at.
Instead of valuing women’s chastity and virtue as a societal plus, dating and permissiveness towards teenage sexuality outside of marriage is what has made marriage essentially meaningless except for fools.
Women have brought the value of sex down to zero effectively. If it’s given away like it is these days then marriage is indeed for fools.
If you’ve read Freakonomics you’d know that the income of prostitutes has been on a unrelenting decline since American fathers have been allowing their daughters to be f~~~ed before they get to 20 in the bulls~~~ culture that is teenage dating.
It seems normal to you because of decades of social engineering through school, films etc but it’s not the only way.
But I get that you don’t give a s~~~ about it now that it’s all gone pear shaped. It’s obvious that American fathers didn’t give a s~~~ about it either.
women are fully responsible human beings,
Not from what I’ve seen,they take no responsibility for
their actions and always blame men and the Patriarchy.
Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
The analogy is poor I admit but in terms of the overall topic let me try to explain.
If the grown woman is the wild horse then one may not care to tame or ride it any further.A wild horse cannot tame itself. A woman can. Women have declared herself equal and can handle her own problems.
But that woman is a daughter. If she was brought up better and her virtue was protected by her fathrr there would be no need to fix or tame the woman.
1st why are you not holding mother’s responsible. You may not be familiar with US culture, but it’s not the Dad who’s pushing for her to get out there and be an independent woman. As well, legally, I could only protect my daughters virtue till she’s 18.
Lastly, the idea that a woman who’s no longer a virgin is broken or somehow better than a virgin is ridiculous. From what I’ve seen, she’s just as likely to behave badly and screw over a man.
I disagree with the teenage dating mentality of Americans and believe that dating culture is what has brought you guys to where you’re at.
That is more of a symptom then a cause. You don’t fix symptoms, you fix the cause. If I were to restrict my daughter and keep her from having sex, different then all of her peers, what would be the side effects? She would rebel, and probably seek out sex more so then if I had allowed it. She would reject all my advice. I much prefer to teach my daughter to understand the truth and reality of a situation and make wise choses herself.
If our society was different, then I’d take a different stance on it. Not because I’m going with the crowd but because the cost of going against can outweigh any advantages.
Ok. Then do it.
But I get that you don’t give a s~~~ about it now that it’s all gone pear shaped. It’s obvious that American fathers didn’t give a s~~~ about it either
As a father of two daughters, F~~~ YOU! Men don’t give a s~~~? SERIOUSLY? Men were extracted from the family you f~~~ing ASS! I was thrown from my house under the threat of lying to the police and getting me arrested, extracted from my daughters daily lives, and take what small table scraps of their daily lives I am allowed. All 100% backed by the family court and police nation.
Tell me I don’t give a s~~~ about my daughters? GO F~~~ YOURSELF.
What f~~~ed it up was no-fault divorce and the presumption that princess shouldn’t have to give up her standard of living. And the presumption that women should be given primary custody of the children. Not 50/50 custody. So now you have single mommy to blame for why daughters are sluts and boys don’t have any respect for women. Because they watched mommy jump from c~~~ to c~~~ and saw her treated like a f~~~ing slut. Monkey see, monkey do.
How can you blame the dad when he was removed by the police state from the children’s lives?
Instead of valuing women’s chastity and virtue as a societal plus, dating and permissiveness towards teenage sexuality outside of marriage is what has made marriage essentially meaningless except for fools.
Nope. Again, no fault divorce and the “cash and prizes” that a woman expects and receives from the divorce have made it a bad contract for a man to sign. If my ex was a virgin when we married it wouldn’t have made the divorce any easier to go through. Under that logic, as I sit in my apartment while she is in her 3,100 square foot house with her new boyfriend and my kids, I would be happy because at least I got to pop her cherry? Yeah, that would help………
Oh yeah, F~~~ YOU for thinking I don’t care about my daughters.
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But I get that you don’t give a s~~~ about it now that it’s all gone pear shaped. It’s obvious that American fathers didn’t give a s~~~ about it either
As a father of two daughters, F~~~ YOU! Men don’t give a s~~~? SERIOUSLY? Men were extracted from the family you f~~~ing ASS! I was thrown from my house under the threat of lying to the police and getting me arrested, extracted from my daughters daily lives, and take what small table scraps of their daily lives I am allowed. All 100% backed by the family court and police nation.
Tell me I don’t give a s~~~ about my daughters? GO F~~~ YOURSELF.
What f~~~ed it up was no-fault divorce and the presumption that princess shouldn’t have to give up her standard of living. And the presumption that women should be given primary custody of the children. Not 50/50 custody. So now you have single mommy to blame for why daughters are sluts and boys don’t have any respect for women. Because they watched mommy jump from c~~~ to c~~~ and saw her treated like a f~~~ing slut. Monkey see, monkey do.
How can you blame the dad when he was removed by the police state from the children’s lives?
Instead of valuing women’s chastity and virtue as a societal plus, dating and permissiveness towards teenage sexuality outside of marriage is what has made marriage essentially meaningless except for fools.
Nope. Again, no fault divorce and the “cash and prizes” that a woman expects and receives from the divorce have made it a bad contract for a man to sign. If my ex was a virgin when we married it wouldn’t have made the divorce any easier to go through. Under that logic, as I sit in my apartment while she is in her 3,100 square foot house with her new boyfriend and my kids, I would be happy because at least I got to pop her cherry? Yeah, that would help………
Oh yeah, F~~~ YOU for thinking I don’t care about my daughters.
that was nice, you put them in their place 🙂 i loved it, agreed with everything you said,
Anonymous42I disagree with the teenage dating mentality of Americans and believe that dating culture is what has brought you guys to where you’re at.
WTF! I don’t speak feminese!
you’d know that the income of prostitutes has been on a unrelenting decline since American fathers have been allowing their daughters to be f~~~ed before they get to 20 in the bulls~~~ culture that is teenage dating.
What the actual F~~~? Fathers have been ABOLISHED FROM THE FAMILY! It’s millions of femtarded f~~~wad single mothers raising the modern retarded twit whore we see prevalent in society today!
Ok smurfett, you gotta go!
@prester John, you definitely do not understand your audience.
You stand upon the pedestal of traditional conservative values and spew self righteous indignation.
You would never shrug nor would you ever understand why men would choose to sit in the bleachers and watch the “playing field”
From my perspective you are yelling at the men in the stands to get on the playing field and straighten out the women (daughters)
To you I say “rave on cat s~~~” and I turn and walk away.
Peace brothers
Tell me I don’t give a s~~~ about my daughters? GO F~~~ YOURSELF.
Amen!!
I have two daughter’s and a son. I raised them myself when my wife left all of us. For some f~~~ed up reason she decided to try meth later in life and it all went to hell. I lost everything except my kids. I’m happy to say my kids all have accountability, are well degreed (paid for it themselves) and are not part of the problem. A man can raise a child better than a woman, and if the child is a daughter you can pass on values that help, not harm society. But you have to be given the chance to do it. IF I had to fight for my kids, I would have lost them. I was lucky she didn’t want them.If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
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