They are all daughters.

[Anonymous 16]

Prester John wrote:

MGTOW can only be a means to an end. Going one’s own way forevermore is not a logical option unless one’s aim is the end of humanity.

Sounds good to me.
Like nero said Burn rome, Burn.

Now seriusly. Its not woman only, men also got no respect for each other. We are as guilty as women are, our society is corrupted.
It must come to an end soo it can start all over again.

Eric Lauder wrote:

I have a daughter: I’m perfectly fine at the idea of her having sex with a lot of men, as she likes, then marrying and idiot blue pill and then divorce raping him. That would be good for her, probably.

But I also to

Why? whats the point? what good it does?

And why are you ok with a brother getting turned to shreds by your own seed?
there is no honor betwin thieves.

The truth is, we are monsters breeding monsters.

[OldBillParticipant]

Prester John wrote:

I think there’s definitely a misunderstanding somewhere here.

Yes, and it’s entirely on your part.

MGTOW isn’t about controlling women. MGTOW is about freeing men.

MGTOW isn’t about blaming women. MGTOW isn’t about infantilizing women. MGTOW isn’t about excusing women.

MGTOW isn’t about women at all.

If no one has yet reported you, then allow me.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Anonymous wrote:

Prester John wrote:

MGTOW can only be a means to an end. Going one’s own way forevermore is not a logical option unless one’s aim is the end of humanity.

Sounds good to me.
Like nero said Burn rome, Burn.

Now seriusly. Its not woman only, men also got no respect for each other. We are as guilty as women are, our society is corrupted.
It must come to an end soo it can start all over again.

Eric Lauder wrote:

I have a daughter: I’m perfectly fine at the idea of her having sex with a lot of men, as she likes, then marrying and idiot blue pill and then divorce raping him. That would be good for her, probably.

But I also to

Why? whats the point? what good it does?

And why are you ok with a brother getting turned to shreds by your own seed?
there is no honor betwin thieves.

The truth is, we are monsters breeding monsters.

Most women are serially monogamous, they need to change man about each 7 years.
That’s why serial monogamy with extraction of resources from former husbands is good for most women.
It isn’t good for men.
Random men aren’t my “brothers” by default: men willingly to sign a marriage contract are blue pillers, and among them there’s plenty manginas.
We have an example with a recent thread: a MGHOW suggesting his friend to avoid marriage contract and cohabitation hidden contract, and his friend turning against him and calling him “coward”. Nice. They can enjoy their bravery, why I should care about them?

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

OldBill wrote:

Prester John wrote:

I think there’s definitely a misunderstanding somewhere here.

Yes, and it’s entirely on your part.

MGTOW isn’t about controlling women. MGTOW is about freeing men.

MGTOW isn’t about blaming women. MGTOW isn’t about infantilizing women. MGTOW isn’t about excusing women.

MGTOW isn’t about women at all.

If no one has yet reported you, then allow me.

I already did it, I reported her as “t~~~t”.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

Prester John wrote:

I think there’s definitely a misunderstanding somewhere here.

The world doesn’t operate on unbridled freedom.

We engineer dams to control water. We build walls and check points to control movement of people. We put wild animals in cages.

I think the approach that MGTOW is using is the one of allowing the disaster of unbridled sexual freedom of women and unbalanced power to women through unfair legislation (ie. force) to unfold to an eventual collapse.

The collapse is inevitable. Women won’t and can’t stay “free” whatever that means. Human continuity demands specialisation of women as the producers of more humans.

MGTOW can only be a means to an end. Going one’s own way forevermore is not a logical option unless one’s aim is the end of humanity.

So what is the goal or the desired end? It can’t be “equality” again whatever that means. It must mean that what needs to be controlled is controlled once more.

Unchecked forces (natural and ideological) can threaten and destroy society. I think men in the West will have to rediscover the methods of controlling and balancing the forces which are making life for men more difficult.

The ideology of MGTOW seems to me to be a reactive protest to the current situation. It is also a rediscovery of the need for men to be able to be independent in order to achieve the great things we all enjoy now.

That’s all fine but the long term plan must contain something regarding the eventual ‘repentance’ of women who have gone astray.

Maybe I’m wrong though. Maybe it is all about engineering new Fleshlight sleeves and having a dog companion and everything is all for nothing.

You know where you messed up to begin with tuna ? Let me tell you what gave you away, as a female. The way you type … The long, and extremely incoherent nonsense typing of a female. I can spot it from a mile away.

I don’t know who’s number you thought you had, but you certainly don’t have ours.

Don’t bother trying again, because we’ll spot you instantly.

[bladeParticipant]

We don’t owe you any explanations or s~~~ f~~~ all.As a c~~~ after pretending/lying you are a man as a typical woman you are probably beleaving your own lie and probably are reaching down to scratch your b~~~~ and are dumb founded why you have none.Just tell us you are a bitch.First time probably you have ever told the truth.Come on it will be ok.come on you can do it.you will get more attention. Come on.its all good.come on

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

If you tell the “truth” you are a woman you would prove us wrong that everything a woman says is a lie.pretty please princess.come on you can do this.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[~BSParticipant 3266]

You’re either a female or a man high on drugs. Men don’t blather on with garbage like that. This entire post is nonsense gibberish with the exception of this last line.

“But all of these women are daughters, and the primary point of failure has been in my opinion the fathers of these women in exerting any control of their daughters honor, integrity and chastity. Society is suffering the effects of the absent control of these daughters.”

Which is untrue. Society is suffering because of whore mothers passing down their lack of values to their daughters, and enabling them to give fathers the shaft. You want to know why females are so messed up? Stretch out your arm and point with your index finger straight in front of you. Then turn your finger 180 degrees and pull it back in until it hits you in the forehead. That’s right, it’s your fault!!! If that didn’t sink in, keep repeating that motion until it does.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[bladeParticipant]

Hang on guys she is just feeding her cats and putting a frozen meal in the microwave.Come on sweet heart.ooooops microwaves are complicated things aren’t they.f~~~ me hurry up bitch.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

Lets make this a mgtow challenge to help her to tell the truth. And she can pick who was the one to have convinced her.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Prester JohnSpectator 24]

“MGTOW isn’t about women at all.”

I understand what you are saying to a point but it’s like saying hygiene isn’t about bacteria at all.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

Prester John wrote:

“MGTOW isn’t about women at all.”

I understand what you are saying to a point but it’s like saying hygiene isn’t about bacteria at all.

More nonsense … i have to ask, do you live at an elevation above 20,000 feet ? Only hypoxia could make a person type like this. Even the average woman after a glass of wine, can make a little more sense than THAT …

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

blade wrote:

Lets make this a mgtow challenge to help her to tell the truth. And she can pick who was the one to have convinced her.

Don’t bother. No matter how great the truths are, she’ll ignore them and keep on yapping, that’s women for ya! So glad this is a man-only forum and it’s a shame that women still feel like they HAVE to be here. Why don’t you, wimminz, all p~~~ off to your glossy magazine forums, hm?

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[Anonymous 16]

Eric Lauder wrote:

Random men aren’t my “brothers” by default: men willingly to sign a marriage contract are blue pillers,

Raise his hand that men who was born red pill and didnt need to experience first hand the carnage or saw a friend turn to dust, or his father or some other men.

WE ALL WHERE BLUE PILLERS.

I do not despice blue pillers, i pity them couse they are still conected.
Last week i was in a family event (baby shower yeah yeah i know). And i saw them there half dead, i was happy i was free, but i felt pitty for them, and the way those woman were looking at me… theyr husbands where there for f~~~ sake.

Sorry eric dont take it wrong, dont wanna be a jerk.

ut what you are saying is i want my dougther to have her cake and eat it too.
No offense but that sounds like a hardcore feminist.

Its not becouse men rigths, its not about social justice or equality. Its just moraly wrong. MORALY WRONG. does anyone remember what that means.

Dont steal becouse you got to jail… NO DONT STEAL BECOUSE IS F~~~ING WRONG.
JUST DONT FUKING DO IT.

[Anonymous 16]

Ohhhh for f~~~ sake forget about the fish already and lets turn this into a philosofical debate about morality shall we?

[OldBillParticipant]

Prester John wrote:

I understand what you are saying to a point but it’s like saying hygiene isn’t about bacteria at all.

While you’ll be flushed away as soon as the mods receive everyone’s reports, there’s a chance an actual man here might gain some insight from a response to the incomprehension you expressed in quoted above.

Hygiene isn’t about bacteria. Hygiene is about not caring about bacteria. Hygiene is about removing bacteria and it’s effects from your life.

A MGHOW no longer cares about women. A MGHOW no longer cares enough to care about women. A MGTOW works towards removing women and their effects from his life.

MGTOW isn’t about controlling women. MGTOW grants women full agency in their lives. MGTOW insists that women have full agency in their lives. MGTOW no longer accepts excuses for women’s behavior. MGTOW no longer makes excuses for women’s behavior.

MGTOW is about men going their own way without any concern for what women are doing.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Prester JohnSpectator 24]

When I posted the first post I didn’t really see the angle of blaming men for the actions of their daughters.

I have three sons so I didn’t really expect the backlash from fathers of daughters here.

There’s no doubt that there are many factors that influence the raising if children. Both parents must instil the right values and educate their children with respect to their roles.

I make no apologies for my own more traditional values about what the role of being a father means.

Our children both male and female deserve our utmost endeavours to make the world better.

We all sense that the system is broken. As a married man even I see the pitfalls and the pain of men being downtrodden by societies attitudes towards men. I acknowledge the validity of MGTOW as a path for men.

What I wonder about is the other side of the MGTOW bridge. Is it a side of solitude and nihilism – or is it one where men understand that to ride a wild horse that he must first (relearn to) control it.

[Anonymous 16]

Prester John wrote:

What I wonder about is the other side of the MGTOW bridge. Is it a side of solitude and nihilism – or is it one where men understand that to ride a wild horse that he must first (relearn to) control it.

Its not solitude, you can b alone all by your selft or alone surrounded by people wich is even worst.
And i dont want to control anyone. People cant and should not be controled. You can control a horse but you cant control people, we tend to look for freedom. the more your restrain the harder they figth.

But there is diference betwin freedom and debauchery the last one comes when morality is lost.

[OldBillParticipant]

Prester John wrote:

… or is it one where men understand that to ride a wild horse that he must first (relearn to) control it.

Human beings aren’t wild horses. They don’t need to be controlled. They have free will and agency over their lives.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Prester JohnSpectator 24]

Anonymous wrote:

Prester John wrote:

What I wonder about is the other side of the MGTOW bridge. Is it a side of solitude and nihilism – or is it one where men understand that to ride a wild horse that he must first (relearn to) control it.

Its not solitude, you can b alone all by your selft or alone surrounded by people wich is even worst.
And i dont want to control anyone. People cant and should not be controled. You can control a horse but you cant control people, we tend to look for freedom. the more your restrain the harder they figth.

But there is diference betwin freedom and debauchery the last one comes when morality is lost.

My own thoughts are that honor and integrity; the most important of manly values have been lost through the social engineering of the left.

The world has been overrun by all manner of falsehoods. False money, false principles, false philosophies.

The engineers of this dystopia have made replies like the one above about fathers of daughters saying they have no problem with their very own daughters being sluts and ruining men.

That’s the sort of hypocrisy that the social engineering and mental programming of today creates.

I agree that morality is the key. The fight here as I see it is a fightback for morality although some are unaware of this.

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