Need a reality check, i guess im about ot make a huge mistake

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Why wait for your company to grow only to give her half? If you marry today her split is 100k, if you continue this silly journey to a million her split will be 500K, she’s costing you more keeping her around. If you strongly desire to keep the union intact please do not marry. Give her a ultimatum and watch her bolt, do you not understand women are predators for resources.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Monk wrote:

The odds against you are much higher than 50:50.

Bingo. High 90s. They don’t want you to know that. Remember, it’s her special day even though you’re both getting married. You do not matter. You’re barely an afterthought to everybody else.

Take care of yourself

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[TimsenParticipant 42]

Soo, a little update.

We just had a talk, and i told her that i am done with this relationship.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

They are socialists.
How do socialists get by?
On the labor of others.
(that was intentionally rhetorical).
You do the work, they spend the money and claim you owe them.

You didn’t dump her.
You dumped the whole family waiting to live off of you.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[TimsenParticipant 42]

FrostByte wrote:

They are socialists.
How do socialists get by?
On the labor of others.
(that was intentionally rhetorical).
You do the work, they spend the money and claim you owe them.

You didn’t dump her.
You dumped the whole family waiting to live off of you.

Well, i dont have problem using money on my daughter

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Timsen wrote:

Well, i dont have problem using money on my daughter

I would hope not. That’s not same as having someone take it from you.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Timsen wrote:

Well, i dont have problem using money on my daughter

Good for you to stop the relationship now and protect your business, which appears that it is going to grow in the future. You can still give money to the ex-gf if you want, but at least she won’t have a perpetual claim on half your business if it does grow. In the long run, if it grows, it could be catastrophic for you to have to hand over even more money if you had married. By having to hand over half or more of it, you might lose all of it. The guys here can tell you that has happened to them. FrostByte is right, you will still be able to spend on your daughter, and probably even more on her than if you had gone through with the marriage.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

My response was not to the point I wanted to make.

I absolutely think you should spend money, time and effort on your daughter. Accountability and responsibility are character traits you don’t see much anymore and one of reasons MGTOW exists. Woman won’t be accountable for their bad behavior and force their responsibility on to the man. That’s why is always our fault. KM nailed it. She says family first but her actions are money first. No prenup = money first. Joint accounts = money first. Get me a home = money first.

I hope you can find away to be generously involved in your daughters life, while preserving your business, wealth and sovereignty. To be honest, if you do get to see her and be involved most of it will be good luck and not much else. Woman hold all the cards and the State favors the woman. There is very little you can do to guarantee that, other than stick to the high road and prove every day to everyone you are a worthy father.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[TimsenParticipant 42]

FrostByte wrote:

My response was not to the point I wanted to make.

I absolutely think you should spend money, time and effort on your daughter. Accountability and responsibility are character traits you don’t see much anymore and one of reasons MGTOW exists. Woman won’t be accountable for their bad behavior and force their responsibility on to the man. That’s why is always our fault. KM nailed it. She says family first but her actions are money first. No prenup = money first. Joint accounts = money first. Get me a home = money first.

I hope you can find away to be generously involved in your daughters life, while preserving your business, wealth and sovereignty. To be honest, if you do get to see her and be involved most of it will be good luck and not much else. Woman hold all the cards and the State favors the woman. There is very little you can do to guarantee that, other than stick to the high road and prove every day to everyone you are a worthy father.

Well right now it looks like i will have my daughter every second weekend and one afternoon every second tuesday.

Now my headache is to find a new place as quickly as possible, since i dont want to live with my gf for next half a year.

[HermitParticipant]

Timsen wrote:

Soo, a little update.

We just had a talk, and i told her that i am done with this relationship.

Holy s~~~! Even I feel a big sigh of relief and I’m not the one who just dodged a huge bullet of misery and pain. I don’t think you know how important this decision is, or how much better off you are going to be now that you made the right one.

I had given up on you and thought you were going to make one of the biggest mistakes of your life. YOU MADE A VERY WISE CHOICE.

Now, go find you another woman, marry her, be miserable, lose all your s~~~ and you will then learn for sure that you made the right choice before.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[TimsenParticipant 42]

Hermit wrote:

Timsen wrote:

Soo, a little update.

We just had a talk, and i told her that i am done with this relationship.

Holy s~~~! Even I feel a big sigh of relief and I’m not the one who just dodged a huge bullet of misery and pain. I don’t think you know how important this decision is, or how much better off you are going to be now that you made the right one.

I had given up on you and thought you were going to make one of the biggest mistakes of your life. YOU MADE A VERY WISE CHOICE.

Now, go find you another woman, marry her, be miserable, lose all your s~~~ and you will then learn for sure that you made the right choice before.

Well, listening to Tom Leykis helped me to make the move. I realized that i was quite a p****y before and i needed to take action before s**t got real with marriage and second child and other stuff. Now her parents are angry as hell and try to guilt me.

I wouldnt say that i will never meet an other woman, but i definitely wont get married.

[HermitParticipant]

Timsen wrote:

Hermit wrote:

Timsen wrote:

Soo, a little update.

We just had a talk, and i told her that i am done with this relationship.

Holy s~~~! Even I feel a big sigh of relief and I’m not the one who just dodged a huge bullet of misery and pain. I don’t think you know how important this decision is, or how much better off you are going to be now that you made the right one.

I had given up on you and thought you were going to make one of the biggest mistakes of your life. YOU MADE A VERY WISE CHOICE.

Now, go find you another woman, marry her, be miserable, lose all your s~~~ and you will then learn for sure that you made the right choice before.

Well, listening to Tom Leykis helped me to make the move. I realized that i was quite a p****y before and i needed to take action before s**t got real with marriage and second child and other stuff. Now her parents are angry as hell and try to guilt me.

I wouldnt say that i will never meet an other woman, but i definitely wont get married.

Of course her parents are angry and trying to guilt you. All the more evidence that you definitely made the right choice. Not only would she have been controlling you, but her parents as well. I just breathed another sigh of relief for you, because I remember how awful it was to have to hang around my x’s family. Man, my life is so good now!

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Timsen wrote:

Now her parents are angry as hell and try to guilt me.

All the more evidence that your business and income is no longer going to be under their control or used for their wants. You are “the big one” that got away, as fishermen always relate. You are in control and don’t react or respond to anything the parents or her family try to guilt you about. They will eventually learn you are not going to cave in.

[Anonymous 12]

Timsen wrote:

Well i do have something to gain, and it is to be around my daughter every day instead of one weekend every 14 days.

hello 911? he beats my daughter!

Do it, DO IT!
Sign there!

haaahahahahahahahah
*points finger and laughs*

come on, just DO IT!

plus, while you are away, she will f~~~ the Milkman and tell your Daughter how much of an evil ass you are.
Come on, do it.

[Anonymous 0]

she basically says that there should not be more than 50% of my year salary in the company at a given time, if there is need for more then it should be negotiated with her and contracts need to be updated.

Another red flag, don’t give up an inch of your freedom, brother. Bail out of there ASAP, it’ll be 100x better than being her wage slave, which is clearly her objective.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22503]

Timsen wrote:

So long story comming.

Me (29m) and my gf(26f) was together for 5 years, 2 years ago my daughter was bourn and we are living in Europe (Not UK or Sweeden).

Before my daughter we had a huge fight because of she wanted to have join finances, whihc i didnt want to have since i payed about 75% of the bills (i made about 100k a year at the time), and i didnt want to pay for her “s~~~”.

We were about to breakup, but she was pregnant at the time and i really wanted to be in the life of my child fulltime. Her description of why she wanted to have joint finances is because that’s how her parents doing it and since we are about to be a family, then we share everything and if i have all the money then i would have more to say in the relationship.

About my gf…

She have very few dreams, its just getting married, have 2 children and have a house which she was straight up about from the beginning, and i was ok with all of that since i was a blue pill (after i found mgtow i started to question marriage).

Her mothers and father are still married, and same for her grandmother and grandfather and all of them are still happy in the marriage. Family is the most important thing for her, most of her family live in the same city as we do and she loves to visit them alot.

She is great mother but without any future plans, she wants to focus on family. Her parents is a bit too much over our relationship since they are living in the same city as we do. Her family is all socialists and vote for left party, they wish that all must have a good life, but thye dont want to look at the reality.

She tells me quite alot that money doesnt mean anything to her.

Fast forward to current date. Currently my gf is working part time (20% recuded time 30h work week). Two month ago i started my own company which is going very well (if everything will keep going as it is i would easy end up on 200k a year) and i wanted to sure that me an my gf agree that before we get married we sign a prenup since i dont want to get my company destroyed in case of divorce.

That started a huge fight again, she feels that since she is home and taking care of the child and house than she deserve half of what company made while we were together in case of divorce.

She keeps telling me that i have to accept her choice of being family person and she didnt feel that i accept it since i want a prenup.

I said definitly no to that, her compromise was to sign a prenup but also to sign a contract where she basically says that there should not be more than 50% of my year salary in the company at a given time, if there is need for more then it should be negotiated with her and contracts need to be updated.

With that contract she want to be sure that money goes to family, and i dont just let them stand in the company.

I feel like that this contract will be a pressure point of hers at any time she wants to have something.

In reallity it doesnt matter for me if second child will be borne, im fine with only my daughter, but i really dont want to get married because of that freaking contract. I dont care that she will get half of the house, cars or what ever it is, the company is where the value and my security is.

I just need a reality check, am i insane to require a prenup or is she on the way to become feminist?

Ask any aditional questions, i will answer them ASAP!

For a socialist lefty who says money means nothing to her, she sounds terribly preoccupied with making sure she gets quite a bit of your money guaranteed to her.

If she actually worked hard to earn money she’d probably feel severely different when government took a big chunk of it to give away to others it says deserve it more than her, and then you come in demanding half of her money on top of that.

Women float through life with zero empathy or ability to put themselves in mens shoes. Much less be held responsible or accountable the way men are. Thats why most women gravtate towards liberalism and socialism, they have been given the luxury to do so.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

Admiral Crunch wrote:

Timsen wrote:

Her mothers and father are still married, and same for her grandmother and grandfather and all of them are still happy in the marriage.

Get the men in those relationships drunk and it is nearly guaranteed they will tell you they are miserable as hell

100% true

[Buller100Participant 2189]

Anonymous wrote:

she basically says that there should not be more than 50% of my year salary in the company at a given time, if there is need for more then it should be negotiated with her and contracts need to be updated.
Another red flag, don’t give up an inch of your freedom, brother. Bail out of there ASAP, it’ll be 100x better than being her wage slave, which is clearly her objective.

Why the f~~~ is she talking about a company she knows nothing about , as has been said nor red flags than China

[MonkParticipant 16975]

GTFO and don’t bother about your daughter.

She is lost to you.

[Anonymous 5]

When I got married many blue pill years ago, I thought things would be fine that is until two months into the marriage. As I questioned the ex, Why are we even talking about what we would do if we divorced, when we had just gotten married? I didnt understand , and like most young men we don’t.
My personal advice is that if you two are continously discussing divorce just as BF and GF, then like it has already been covered. Then the relationship will ultimately wind up in court and you will come out the loser, period. And a prenup is not going to change her thinking. And having a child in this kind of situation , the children will be used to make you pay up until you have been financially bled out. And that is not your childs fault, they have become pawns in most divorce proceedings.
AS it is right now I would get a DNA test done on your daughter just to verify she is yours.
But do not under any circumstances marry the witch, or you will become part of the world wide statistics of those who gat married then divorced with child. Do not have any more children with her. Its tough downing the red pill, but I would rather have my face shoved into a barrel full of double edged razors if thats what it takes to be a free man, free from all female human beings and forced to be shoved in any kind of dwellings such as a house, with these manipulative, insane, life and financial , draining, succubuses.

Best of luck my friend and take that red pill every day without fail !!!!!!

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