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Anonymous11Freshly divorced men and women should be sent to segregated isolation camps for 1 to 2 years as they are both toxic.
There’s nothing more disgusting that watching two adults play the let’s who see can f~~~ someone else first game. I swear that a semi-significant percentage of my “divorced” friends never seem to really end the relations~~~s either. Who in the hell would want to ever get involved in that triangle?
Is she really over the ex is my #1 question of any woman I meet? My dating pool is non-land whale divorced women with either no kids or kids who are like 30 and long gone.
Life’s still better without them.
The one’s that concern me are those men in abusive relationships.
Just my take and I’m the new guy here. All married guys are in abusive relationships. It doesn’t take being hit or verbally abused. Does he gain all of the reward from his work, then he is being stolen from even if he gladly gives. If he leaves does he keep his kids, house, or retirement? When he decides he’s had enough, the courts get their round with his mangled carcass. When I started reading the forums I started in marriage and divorce because that was where I was at in the going my own way trip. If it had been far removed from the Introductions and MGTOW Central pages then I wouldn’t have wandered over there and continued my trip.
This is only my fourth post after responding to welcomes on my intro, and for good reason. I don’t normally have anything to add to the conversation. If guys are coming here for marriage counseling that is an issue with their understanding of boundaries. Smack them the hell down and press on. But for the guys who post and are looking for confirmation that the World doesn’t end at the plantation fence you’re doing an immeasurable service.
KM has it in his signature. If you push a man around, around eventually becomes away. There are new men showing up every day, some will want to fix what they think they have in that marriage contract (not realizing that it only contains promises for her) and others are looking for first steps to take to reach their freedom. Do what you will with my opinion, I’m just Andy Dufresne here. I may still be on the inside, but I’m waiting for the right storm to stand in the Sun afterwards.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
Not into the marriage counseling bit. As a matter of fact, this is probably an inappropriate place for marriage advice.
However, before I went my own way. I went through decades of living in the world of misinformation and false hope of meeting the “ONE”. It wasn’t until I went through the processes of girlfriends, getting married, trying to save a s~~~ marriage (then I Divorced), being manipulated and other retarded s~~~ from women, including reading books like The Manipulated Man, The Predatory Women, Why I cheat and many others, that the light went on and I left the crazy “Matrix”.
I associate and date women, just wont live, marry or commit to one.
I suspect, some of these guys are at the beginning of the MGTOW process !
I think people should not forget about strategy.
Some men play Chess, some play Checkers.
Some are in situations where playing the game of Chess, is the only way.
As for “pro marriage advice”, well I think that the common opinion is shared throughout us all. haha
But, some of the things Im reading just in this thread, in my eyes seems like its own type of shaming technique, and I find it unexceptionable for my brothers to not only take that s~~~ from the situation at hand, and then take it here also. I believe in support for awakening
Anonymous11@ogre: All marriages are a negative for any man.
The abusive relationships I speak of are ones where a man is trapped in a Female Led Relationship(FLR) or involved with a Cluster B personality disorder c~~~ say Borderline or Histrionic PD. Those guys go through hell. Some never escape.
f~~~in-A ..marriage ? that outdated institution that serves ONLY female interests ? DAMN ! i tell all my associates that they are marrying the woman AND their local government .. guess whose side the judge is on ? not yours ..not the man’s side ! a losing proposition..I tell “em not to do it ..
Accepting you need help is the first step on the road to freedom. I extend my hand to any brother who extends his to receive it. It only takes one acorn to grow a giant oak.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I just really enjoyed Brain Pilot’s post (here) on the word “NO”…..
But I’m starting to see what Tower means by using MGTOW as an emotional tampon. Emails like this one are coming in more often and this one from an hour ago actually made me want to start a topic. And I rarely start topics unless it’s about the site or members.
He just got back to us again. He’s in Puerto Rico. He was clear he wasn’t asking for money or anything, but mostly guidance, advice and support – and a lawyer or someone to legally be in his corner. I suggested he try AVFM (or some such entity) and explained the difference between MRAs and MGTOW is the MGTOW will assume his own agency and never even PERMIT himself to be in a situation like this.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.But I’m starting to see what Tower means by using MGTOW as an emotional tampon. Emails like this one are coming in more often and this one from an hour ago actually made me want to start a topic.
That e-mail doesn’t look to me like he’s asking for marriage counseling, though, or a way to fix his marriage. If that were the case I’d rightly tell him he can’t, and leave it at that.
I read that e-mail like he’s at his wit’s end looking desperately for an escape route, and I see no problem with helping men with that. They still have to take the steps, but we should be able to light the path for them. After all, Men Help Other Men.
I just wish I knew more about getting out of no-win scenarios to tell him, but I only know how to avoid getting into them.
That e-mail doesn’t look to me like he’s asking for marriage counseling, though, or a way to fix his marriage. If that were the case I’d rightly tell him he can’t, and leave it at that.
Fully aware he’s not looking for marriage counseling and the answer is right here……
I just wish I knew more about getting out of no-win scenarios to tell him, but I only know how to avoid getting into them.
That’s the important difference. MGTOW can’t really help him. He’s bringing the “what do I do” question to the wrong place after the fact. This doesn’t compute in a MGTHOW’s brain. The MGHOW says “WTF are you even doing in that situation?” and doesn’t even see how that’s possible – to be in a s~~~ty relationship with a female for 3-4 years , she calls you abusive and threatens to put you in jail with lies ……. and you STILL haven’t left??
MRAs can maybe help you AFTER the fact.
MGTOW exists so that you will never need them,If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.The MGHOW says “WTF are you even doing in that situation?” and doesn’t even see how that’s possible – to be in a s~~~ty relationship with a female for 3-4 years , she calls you abusive and threatens to put you in jail with lies ……. and you STILL haven’t left??
If I find some poor schmuck trapped at the bottom of a well I’m definitely going to ask him what the f~~~ was he thinking how he got his silly ass down there in the first place? But I’ll still drop him a rope, if I have one.
From there it’s on him to grab the rope and climb out.
MRA’s seem more the type to climb down into the well to try to carry him out, or try to convince him to “fix” the well, or try to negotiate with the well, or join him in the well and tell him it’s not such a bad well after all. For all the good it will do them.
But I think MGTOW can spare a little rope.
MRAs can maybe help you AFTER the fact.
MGTOW exists so that you will never need them,…again.
The thing is, Men come to Going Their Own Way from all sorts of places and situations. It would be best for all concerned, or at least for those with a Y chromosome, if Men learned about Going Their Own Way before getting themselves in trouble. However with all the intense pressure young men are under to act against their own best interests, not to mention the lies, the plain truth is that a lot of men, probably the majority, are only going to learn their lesson the hard way after the fact. Just look at how many men repeat the same lament in the introductions board that they wish they’d learned about MGTOW “before…” I think probably the majority of divorced MGTOW probably learned the truth of it, even if not by name, while still in their marriage, not after. Discovering MGTOW is probably the main reason why they are divorced.
I think of it like this: It’s Men GOING Their Own Way. What matters is not where they are at right now, but where they are Going. Yes this poor guy should never have gotten himself into this situation in the first place (seriously, what the actual f~~~? – I can only imagine it was one of those slow frog boiling scenarios), but that’s not nearly as important as where he Goes from here. And I have no problem trying to advise him how to Go there if I can. It’s one of the ways MGTOW Saves Lives.
Of course it’s still all on him to actually go.
As an aside, I’d just like to point out how I am having a cordial disagreement here in this thread, and with the owner of the forums himself, no less.. So much for certain feminist reviews calling MGTOW.com an “echo chamber of yes-men”.
As an aside, I’d just like to point out how I am having a cordial disagreement here in this thread, and with the owner of the forums himself, no less.. So much for certain feminist reviews calling MGTOW.com an “echo chamber of yes-men”.
Oh I roger that loud and clear. I’m smiling. (even gave you a thumbs up for disagreeing)
I know what you’re referring to. That article calling MGTOW forums an “echo chamber of yes men”.
QUOTE: “Forums become a ‘Yes!’ echo chamber. There is no discussion, just rants filled with yes-men.”Being a “yes man” and agreeing with each other in the forums is a BAD thing.
But agreeing with them and being a “yes man” and giving women whatever they want is PERFECTLY acceptable.EL.
OH.
EL.
Seems the ladies have a big problem when men agree on “No Ma’am”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I see both sides of this. I don’t have time tonight to go into a long post, There are some poor schmucks out there who get robbed again and again because they don’t know any other way. But at least some of them would leap at the chance to explore any alternative, if they could just see an example of it being done. To be sure, those men are stuck in a trap that they volunteered for. And we might be wasting our time to try to help any of them out of it.
But there are loads of younger men who have never been robbed and are unaware that it is planned for them, and equally unaware that there are alternatives to it.
The value in trying to save one of the trapped ones, is that in trying to convince a younger man who has never been trapped and robbed not to sign that contract, it is useful to have a mgtow who has never allowed himself into that situation to hold up as a positive example of what his life will look like if he listens to us. But maybe it is equally useful (perhaps moreso?) to have a man who escaped that trap (albeit with a little help from us) to hold up as a negative example of what is going to happen to that young man if he does not listen.
No woman regrets a man going his own way after he’s been robbed. His transition to mgtow is no loss… because he has nothing left to take. He’s like an empty oyster shell falling from the table after it’s already been drained. The real loss is that young, ambitious, achiever who sees two examples of what to do and what not to do, and makes his decisions accordingly.
That guy is the pearl slipping away across the table… just out of reach. If we can use the example of the first guy to help guide the second one away from the trap-contract, we will have two new members here, and will have succeeded in extending the spread of the word ‘NO’…
I haven’t yet read the post of the guy in puerto rico, but I would make the effort to provide him one post of advice. Throw a rope in his direction and see if he reaches for it. If he doesn’t, he drowns. If he does, he may be worth pulling in to use as an example…(?)
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
I don’t see a problem here, if someone is married to a fantasy NAWALT UNICORN, who is a true addition to his life, CONTRIBUTES, is respectful, and makes his life a living fantasy, with little to no demands, with zero financial and legal consequences, then he is very fortunate and please provide DNA for cloning.
However if he is unfortunate enough to live in the real world, and has an over entitled land whale, making his life a living hell, then he needs to explain WHY the hell should men, waist time, trying to preserve the very institution that makes him and the vast majority of man-kind miserable?Mangina …. I need marriage counseling?
MGTOW …. Get a divorce.
Simple solution if you ask me.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Your marriage isn’t in trouble – YOU are in trouble.
Get out of trouble.
Get out of that marriage.
i guess it takes time.
As for me i never knew MGTOW existed until 2 years back when my wife dragged my entire family to prison!
now after 2 years, i learned a lot from this amazing forum and now i am not only divorcing her (the case is still in the court and my wife is not accepting for settlement) but never never getting married again.For new broken hearts needs some patience, but if they keep continuing to live with her, then it is time to take action and kick him out. because he is a disgrace to MGTOW !
MGTOW is true gentlemen and who ever argues with this is a hypocrite.
“I spent my life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless but not men” - Godfather
Anonymous11There are some poor schmucks out there who get robbed again and again because they don’t know any other way
One of my friend’s brothers has just lost his house and 35 acres of some family land to his 2nd exW.. He got damn lucky his first time around. So why the hell did he roll the Roulette wheel a second time?
I remember my friend and I had his first wife’s son by a another sperm donor blasting cinder blocks with an M-14 when he was 11. He’s gotta be 30 now. That was kind of fun. He freaked out on the .308s tearing them apart.
The first Ex never took the land just left and got child support for their son. The second one got both, He is f~~~ed more by his 2nd Ex who went to the HR c~~~s where he worked and got him fired. She did not even work there.
Anonymous42Hey C-Pig, Isn’t in great not having the thorns of female contact tearing at your flesh during any of your life’s walks.
MGTOW is a chain flail that destroys the bountiful pricker patches of feminism that grow all around us.
I say to hell with these thorn riddled flesh tearing bitches, let them tear, pierce, and poison each other!I don’t know why any man would come HERE to try to save his marriage. The rest of the world, including the internet, is full of that one sided bulls~~~ advice. Here you will only get the truth about women…red pills. Red pills can not be un-taken. Once you realize that all women are hypergamist and materialistic by nature, you can not go back to the beautiful fantasy of female love.
So, if a young fella who is on the fence because his recent re-education in marriage counseling sessions just doesn’t feel right to him, and he feels like some or all of his b~~~~ have just been amputated, it is a great service that we provide to let him know that his gut instincts are correct. Hopefully his new path will lead him to freedom some day.
We can’t help our brothers without getting our hands dirty. If that muddies the crystal clear waters of MGTOW, then so be it. MGTOW saved me, and I am going to pay it forward. We have to leave the door open, or troubled souls won’t find their way in. That means setting a guy who is asking for advice straight about the truth, not attacking him for asking the wrong questions. If you chase him away, he might not survive.
Just my opinion.
BVC
PS This is a great topic and really got me thinkin’. Thanks Tower!
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
As an aside, I’d just like to point out how I am having a cordial disagreement here in this thread, and with the owner of the forums himself, no less.. So much for certain feminist reviews calling MGTOW.com an “echo chamber of yes-men”.
Oh I roger that loud and clear. I’m smiling. (even gave you a thumbs up for disagreeing)
I know what you’re referring to. That article calling MGTOW forums an “echo chamber of yes men”.
QUOTE: “Forums become a ‘Yes!’ echo chamber. There is no discussion, just rants filled with yes-men.”Being a “yes man” and agreeing with each other in the forums is a BAD thing.
But agreeing with them and being a “yes man” and giving women whatever they want is PERFECTLY acceptable.EL.
OH.
EL.
Seems the ladies have a big problem when men agree on “No Ma’am”.
Let’s say you have a math class. You ask everyone: “What’s 1 + 1?” Now just because everyone who knows math says “2”, that’s not an echo chamber of “yes-men”. That’s just stating cold, hard facts, which most women can’t wrap their head around..
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