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  • #104039
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    Anonymous
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    I”m making this post only because I feel this site is being polluted by men looking for marriage counseling, not to free themselves from the wreckage and debris of their modern fem-fried, gynocentric, hamster-wheeling, princess cupcake wives.
    I commented on one of these “marriage posts” and regret doing so.
    I like the way Brain Pilot comes in here and throws his pearls to the desperately seeking, and not to the men clinging on the broken and sinking rafts of marriage.

    I don’t like seeing these posts here, “FOR INCONTROVERTIBLE REASONS” It’s an oil film clouding the crystal clear waters of MGTOW. The merry miserable married men drag their anchors across the bottom clouding the philosophy with the toxic silt of woman.

    This is my proposal, We build a separate dingy and tow it far behind the USS, RC, RA, HMS, MGTOW. putting marriage related topics in a separate website with no way back.
    That way when these marriage counsel seeking MRA, AVFM, and whatever other lost cause makes a post, it can be relocated far far behind the USS, RC, RA, HMS, MGTOW. That way we won’t be smashing into the endless debris and ruination of modern women clinging on to their men as though their men were sworn hands with these women being the captains of these dangerously constructed rafts lost and adrift throughout the oceans of MGTOW.

    A raft far far behind the MGTOW will surly gather women and feminist sympathizers. When that happens (and it will) we cut the rope, turn the guns on her, and blow her the f~~~ out of the water!

    What are your feelings about this site being used as a marriage counseling tampon???

    #104043
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    Anonymous
    11

    You can lead horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.

    #104050
    +5
    RoyDal
    RoyDal
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    Every man has different wants and needs. He will find out what works best for him and go with it … or not. It is up to him.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #104052
    +1
    Untamed
    Untamed
    Participant

    We have NAWALT T~~~ WHITE KNIGHT and MANGINA buttons but I’m not sure if I should use ’em when I see a thread debating about the viability of marriage nowadays. We have new MGTOW men here and lots of ’em are still suffering from Blue-Pill effects so it would follow to expect certain posts and thread sounding apologetic or positively reminiscing about their marriage.
    I agree with you that it’s clouding the waters, but we are all going our own way here so maybe some laissez-faire might be in order? I don’t know.

    I like your proposal though.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #104054
    +13
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Excellent topic!

    I”m making this post only because I feel this site is being polluted by men looking for marriage counseling, not to free themselves from the wreckage…….. It’s an oil film clouding the crystal clear waters of MGTOW.

    That kind of thing always belongs in the marriage and divorce forum. There’s a separate forum for that already. They will get the unapologetic truth from our members already. MGTOW are not interested in telling married men what they want to hear… and that’s probably why they are here in the first place. Just to get it straight. So if you see anything in MGTOW Central that distracts from the crystal clear waters of MGTOW (really well said by the way)…. send a link to the thread over and we will relocate it. That goes for any kind of “about ME” personal post. MGTOW central is MGTOW central and centrals around ONLY that which pertains to MGTOW in general…. or media, news items in the aggregate.

    Something like “my wife tells me…. ” does not belong in MGTOW Central.

    What are your feelings about this site being used as a marriage counseling tampon???

    “Marriage counseling” is for women and gays, and every husband should tell his wife that. Marriage counselling is just a term for “the wife is not getting whatever she wants and so she will take her little doggy to training camp” …… and his needs and desires are a total non-consideration.

    Consider “marriage counseling” topics:

    • “My husband drives me crazy because he doesn’t do enough chores”
    /audio/womens-duties/
    Counselled. Done. End of discussion. Just saved you an hour and $200 for some marriage counseling t~~~.

    • “My husband promised we would have two kids…. now he doesn’t want any more”
    /video/wendy-williams-teaches-women-to-trap-men-into-fatherhood/
    Counselled. Done. End of discussion. Just saved you an hour and $200 for some marriage counseling t~~~.

    Did anyone consult with the husband?
    And thats’ why “marriage counseling” is a pile of s~~~ and is for women and gays.
    Because nobody gives a s~~~ what the husband has to say about it.

    Do women encourage “marriage counseling” when HE has a problem like “my wife is a big fat nagging bitch”??
    F~~~ marriage counselling.

    We’re not hear to make marriages and relationships “better” so your wife doesn’t turn into a miserable nagging harpie after 16 years of busting your ass to make her “happy”. Even if you succeed, she will hate your f~~~ing guts and tell everyone (including Oprah) about your shortcomings.
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/08/26/o.divorce.dreams/index.html

    To any man here who is looking for “marriage counseling”… dump that bitch. Problem solved.

    This morning, we received another email from a site visitor that we saved his life.
    That’s at least 4 we saved this year which we know of.
    “Saving a marriage” doesn’t even come close.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #104055
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    Fermat
    Fermat
    Participant
    3478

    Let them post about their horrible marriages. We will not tell them how to fix it. This is not reddit. What I have found on this site is that the vast majority of men here tell it like it is so even a super blue pill mangina with female baggage has to back and realize that this is no counseling site. However if those kinds of posts di reach critical mass they either need their own thread or we need a new clever button to oust them. What we have though dies suffice for now i think. Especially the mangina button. My favorite.

    I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

    #104057
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    Burgundy
    Burgundy
    Participant
    1525

    There certainly is a problem, if they didn’t come to seek help jumping off the marriage death ship safely, but possibly try to lure unguarded men into believing, “not all hand grenades blow up”.

    As I said in another thread of, when being with married people and they try to sell marriage to you, they are simply trying to bind you into misery as well, it’s sadly in human nature to try force others into your own misery, and married couples do sure like to try play match makers, at your expense.

    Married men, who call themselves MGTOWs, and try to sell marriage, or painting it as, “not so bad sometimes”, should probably be getting the nicely Memento picture frame around them.

    #104069
    +9
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Married men, who call themselves MGTOWs, and try to sell marriage, or painting it as, “not so bad sometimes”

    Hey., just because you didn’t crash your car on the way to Vegas doesn’t mean you had a good time.

    Just because your marriage *didn’t fail*…. doesn’t mean it WORKED.

    “Not so bad sometimes”. Jesus Chipotle.
    Does anyone throw down thousand$$$ for a car because it’s “not so bad sometimes”??

    MAN 1: Hey waiter! What do you recommend?

    WAITER: “Well the fish of the day is not so bad sometimes……..”

    MAN 1: I think I will order a pizza instead.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #104070
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    Untamed
    Untamed
    Participant

    We have NAWALT T~~~ WHITE KNIGHT and MANGINA buttons but I’m not sure if I should use ’em when I see a thread debating about the viability of marriage nowadays. We have new MGTOW men here and lots of ’em are still suffering from Blue-Pill effects so it would follow to expect certain posts and thread sounding apologetic or positively reminiscing about their marriage.
    I agree with you that it’s clouding the waters, but we are all going our own way here so maybe some laissez-faire might be in order? I don’t know.

    I like your proposal though.

    I thought we were talking about Men going their own way, unmarried, but still struggling with the idea of being single for the rest of their lives.
    But if we have married-manginas here, in my opinion, they have no business on this site. This site if for MGTOW after marriage or never married.
    Correct me if I’m wrong, thank you.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #104074
    +10
    Jon the Ex-Squid
    Jon the Ex-Squid
    Participant
    298

    I don’t mind reading the marriage horror stories. They reaffirm my beliefs. It gives me something to point to and say, “Yup. I made the right decision(to stay single).”

    But its one thing to say, “Here’s what happened to me.” and another to say, “Guys. What advice can you give to help my marriage?”

    My advise will always be, “Get divorced.” You can make more money to cover the lost expenses but you can’t make more sanity to recoup what you lose by staying married.

    #104084
    +9

    Anonymous
    42

    Thanks for the replies, I had some clam juice stinking up my thoughts last night.
    I’m telling others how my life has IMPROVED IMMENSELY since discarding ALL FEMALE INFLUENCE.
    I look back and realize how my life would have been immeasurably altered had I gave in to the toxic paradigm that inundate and permeate the entitled snowflake western woman.

    Upon close inspection introspecting the evidence is overwhelming, These women DESTROY men, Contort children, and absolutely ruin all hopes of a successful and harmonious society.

    My indifference is absolute, resolute, and permanent!
    Thanks for helping me to flush of the clam juice and scrubbing the decks clean…. I like clean, I really do!

    #104096
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    Anonymous
    25

    Fix my marriage type posts have no place here. Men who are looking to get out of a bad marriage situation and go there own way would belong in the marriage forum. They will be told like it is by the men on here. But at the end of the day most of it has already been said in previous posts. They can read up on the forums and already find that information. Too much of those type of posts are toxic. This is for men going their own way. Not men on the fence.

    #104102
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    BrainPilot
    BrainPilot
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    7640

    As world war two dragged on and started to go bad for the Germans, they got a little sloppy in their prison camps. Up until that point, the fanatical Nazis running the camp system had been pretty good about sorting civilians and captured soldiers into different camps. The captured soldiers, being trained fighters, required an increased degree of security to hold them. This made it easier for the Nazis to slaughter as many civilians as they did with relatively little resistance. It wasn’t so much that the civilians (Jews and anyone else the Nazis decided they didn’t like) didn’t know what was happening.

    Ironically, a note written by a prisoner in a nearby camp and placed in his coat was found by a prisoner at Sobibor. The author of the note knew that his camp was going to be closed and that he and the other prisoners in his camp were all going to be gassed. He also knew that Sobibor and its prisoners were next. And, he knew that his coat would probably be salvaged and processed through Sobibor, so he wrote a note and hid it in his coat. As he had predicted, the note was found by a prisoner in the laundry facility at Sobibor long after he had been killed.

    Soon, all the prisoners at Sobibor knew. It was just that being unarmed and untrained, there wasn’t much they could really do about it.

    Then one day, the Nazi fanatics made a mistake. They brought a group of captured Ukrainian combat soldiers to a camp previously set up to house (and kill) civilian Jews. These guys were not the Ukrainian army truck drivers and supply chain guys. They were trained, experienced fighters captured in combat. The Jews had figured out that they had been slated for elimination, but were pretty helpless to do anything about it under the circumstances. When the Ukrainians arrived, they learned they were going to share the same fate. The mixing of the two populations of prisoners did not convert the fighters into civilians, it converted the civilian Jews into fighters. There is an important lesson there.

    The highest ranking Ukrainian officer and a few of his soldiers studied the habits of the guards. Having formed these habits guarding civilians, they were sloppy and it showed. The Ukrainian officer and his men very quickly noticed mistakes, gaps and weaknesses. They were unarmed, but not untrained. And they knew how easily an unarmed fighter can become an armed fighter. And this is exactly what happened…

    After some period of time studying the guards, they initiated a plan to revolt and escape. When the day of the revolt came, they quietly surprised and killed a few guards with hand tools, and took their weapons. When it came time to revolt openly (and loudly), they killed many more guards with the weapons of those first few they’d just killed. In the interim, they isolated and killed the prisoners who’d become collaborators with the guards. The collaborators had been hated even more than the guards. That day, during the next point at which they were all supposed to gather in formation to be counted, most of the camp’s population suddenly broke ranks and stormed the fences and, acting as a unified force, were able to push them down and make a run for a nearby forrest. Many who participated in the escape were killed by surviving guards in the process, while many others escaped to freedom.

    Sadly, there were prisoners whose minds had become so defeated by their internment that even after the revolt was clearly underway, and the fences had been pushed down, continued to obediently stand in formation. Perhaps, they had been prisoners for so long they couldn’t get their minds around the idea of revolt. Perhaps they believed that if they were docile enough and obedient enough, they might achieve some favor with the guards and be granted the privilege of one more day in slavery. No one knows exactly why they chose to just stand there rather than fight or run when given the chance. The reason no one knows is that they were of course slaughtered where they stood as soon as the machine gunners in the guard towers realized that the escapees were beyond effective range of their weapons. So, they are no longer around to ask why they chose to just stand there.

    Not all are willing to actually DO something to achieve freedom. Some are unwilling to risk confrontation because they fear it may make things worse. Some are still trying to get favor with the guards and just want to know how to be a more likable prisoner. We can explain to them what is being done to them and what is being planned for them and some will participate in their own rescue, but others will not. Many will stand and be slaughtered.

    You can be a soldier, a rebellious civilian, or an obedient one. And even if your situation seems hopeless, you can be the author of a note…

    But we also see guys who come in confused, and on having the truth of what is planned for them laid out and explained… very quickly make the decision that they are not going to stand still and accept slavery or slaughter. These guys are my favorites. You whisper the truth in their ear, and watch the lights go on, and know that you have just converted a civilian/slave into another fighter. It only takes a very few guys to go around whispering the truth. It spreads to other guys on its own. Very soon, you have a revolt in the making…

    The easy part is that, unlike a real prison camp, every man here is armed with a cannon. The word “NO” is that cannon. Not every man realizes he has this cannon, but that doesn’t make it disappear.

    Buy me dinner? No.
    Buy me movie tickets? No.
    Pay my bills? No.
    Pay my rent? No.
    Sign this contract that will enslave you and force you to finance my house, car, bills, children, living expenses and retirement… NO!

    Once you learn to use this weapon, or train someone else to use it, you will find that it never misses the target, never overheats, never runs out of ammunition. You want out of the camp? Off the plantation? You want to be free and stay safe? Just keep pulling that trigger.

    I agree with Tower’s post that there are those guys who just won’t see the truth, or do anything about it on their own behalf. Nothing can be done for them if they willingly accept their slavery/slaughter. We just need to make sure that before leaving them behind, we have whispered the truth in their ear at least once…

    Or alternatively, let Sidecar scream it in their face as he runs past them blasting away with a stolen weapon and throwing grenades into guard shacks… 😛

    For myself, I’d choose as my role to be that voice on ‘Radio Free Europe’… 😉

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #104103
    +5
    Burgundy
    Burgundy
    Participant
    1525

    @keymaster Yeah something like that or, “Hey, she may cut off my b~~~~ in the morning, rip out my guts at noon, but at least she makes me a great meat b~~~~ and sausage stew at dinner”.

    Like a cow grown in an institute, only to be driven on a single road in front, for marriage, just before the divorce slaughter facility is presented to them, it will come to them, as a shock and surprise, but the drive there, was littered with corpses and meat factories, the cow however only thinking, “That only happens to the other cows, this won’t happen to me”.

    #104104
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    Motiv
    Motiv
    Participant
    441

    Im guilty of posting in the wrong forum and did apologize for doing so and I also asked mods to move it. So agree with OP
    Did NOT ask anyone to fix my marriage tho lmao thats the last bit of s~~~ty advice I would want..

    Cool story babe now go make me a sandwich

    #104105
    +8

    Anonymous
    11

    We aren’t marriage counselors. I’m pretty sure the stock MGTOW answer is usually a steady chorus of drop that f~~~ing hot rock. Most men don’t have the fortitude to walk away especially in dysfunctional relationships. The key to any dysfunctional relationship is to understand there are two sides to the dysfunctional behaviors.

    The one’s that concern me are those men in abusive relationships. The marriage stories tend to reinforce that never getting married is the right thing for all men.

    My answer to fixing any bad relations~~~ is to walk away and never look back again. Better yet, avoid the mother f~~~ers like the plague in the first place.

    The problem is that most MGTOWs actually care enough to at least try to help. <5% chance the man is actually going to listen.

    #104107
    +3
    Untamed
    Untamed
    Participant

    I am starting to see that women are just sex dolls to us…time to deflate the doll and not chase women, but chase our dreams.
    I think self esteem is at the core of much.

    Yes, self esteem IS at the core, that’s why weemins always try to mock and shame Men. A man with low self esteem is basically a mouse facing a ravenous alley cat.

    And my dreams don’t include a weemin.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #104119
    +8

    Anonymous
    42

    Hey BP, +1

    staline animated

    #104190
    +1
    MonkeyMind
    MonkeyMind
    Participant
    5340

    Unless they’re getting divorced we should send them back to the plantation.

    #104214
    +3
    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant
    35851

    I”m making this post only because I feel this site is being polluted by men looking for marriage counseling, not to free themselves from the wreckage and debris of their modern fem-fried, gynocentric, hamster-wheeling, princess cupcake wives.

    I’m not so concerned by that. MGTOW are about where they are Going, not where they’re coming from, and a lot are coming from s~~~ty awful marriages (redundant statement is redundant). It’s entirely possible for married men to Go Their Own Way. It’s called “getting a divorce”.

    I’ll be more concerned when married men start GETTING “marriage counseling” here (beyond the obvious “get a divorce” I mean).

    MGTOW save MEN not marriages.

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