MGTOW and GOD

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  • #846872
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    Harpo-My-"SON"
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    Keymaster wrote:
    I also wonderer how god and MGTOW can co-exist. But a man can “believe” in God, Santa, or the Easter bunny if it brings him some comfort. It’s very personal and close to the heart. MGTOW is common sense for men. A tangible lifestyle choice. It’s just not the same thing at all.

    Put another way….

    MGTOW doesn’t care if you don’t “believe” in it. The church sure does. And if you don’t embrace it, you’re going to burn in hell for all eternity. They push the same scare tactics like people who push marriage. “If you don’t marry me you’re going to die alone!!!”

    Yes to the entire first part
    My earthly but now heavenly father is very close to my heart.

    although the brick and mortar church kicked me out for
    nothing more than pulling out my fathers ID and calling him my heavenly father
    My own church would never do such a thing
    it is in my heart as you say..
    I loved my father more than anyone and
    many will curse him for coming back through me..
    My statutory construction of my truth self evident is something that will stand and be respected eventually…
    My Bible says a church is established by a marriage to Jesus Christ.
    A brick and mortar church building is most often created using a state contract
    called a 501c3 tax exempt charitable corporation..

    Lets find the true church by tossing out what is not true and accepting
    what remains..

    all corporations are created by the state. This is a true statement.
    What the state created, Jesus could not have created.

    A church is founded by a marriage to Jesus.
    To consummate that marriage the idea is
    we lay down with jesus and the sins of our
    flesh die with Jesus and we get up in a new
    reborn spirit..That of our father in heaven
    giving him your life.

    Then He speaks the truth in court for you.
    You are in no need of representation by a lawyer (liar)
    Truth is so helped by god just like the swearing in oath
    before you testify.
    Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God..

    This code of heavenly law above the nation allows the Bible to become your new constitution and you have the right of interpreting it in your favor.

    I marry my truth and take my husbands last name that being Christ
    The dead (MY FATHER) shall rise in Christ.

    read the declaration of independence and find the word duty..

    every accusation of criminal wrongdoing has the burden of proving
    willfulness. Defined as “An evil motive or intent to avoid a known
    duty or task under the law with a moral certainty”..

    We have a duty to toss this government off and establish our
    place in gods kingdom..

    failing to do so is avoiding our duty.

    Most people have no idea or concept of
    the spiritual side of their own mortal
    being..

    I have been documenting my travels with my father
    for some time now. His identity has been used to do commerce..
    checks cashed, truck purchased and registered.
    He is the one who was dead and is now alive..

    Love and respect to all

    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

    #846896
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    I never understood how can one be a MGTOW, yet worship God.
    What’s the point? Isn’t that the opposite of one going his own way?
    When you worship God, you have rules to follow, and these rules suppresses your very essence.

    Nope. GOD IS MGTOW.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #846899
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    Awakened
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    “If you don’t marry me you’re going to die alone!!!”

    That’s kinda the goal there cupcake !!

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #846900
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    Sidecar
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    I never understood how can one be a MGTOW, yet worship God.

    Jesus was a MGHOW.

    #846907
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    Anonymous
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    Why do you even care what other people believe? I’m an atheist too, but in all honesty, I don’t give a s~~~ what other people believe, as long as they leave me the f~~~ alone. As far as I’m concerned, I think everybody should be able to live however they please so long as they aren’t harming others against their will, or trying to make people live by their rules.

    I walked away from religion a long time ago, because I see it as just another money-making institution dependent upon people being blind followers to keep its leaders in power. I’m done being an obedient slave. I chose the MGTOW path for the same reason.

    Now, if other people want to be religious, so be it. I don’t give a f~~~ what anybody else does with their own life. Believe whatever you want.

    You want to be a Christian? Be a Christain! You want to be a Muslim? Be a Muslim! You want to get married? Get married! You want to stay single? Stay single! I honestly give zero f~~~s about what anybody else chooses to do with their life. I just want to be left the f~~~ alone.

    #846919
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    Harpo-My-"SON"
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    G.O.A.T wrote:
    Let’s end this topic, because I see how sensitive people get when confronted about their faith.

    I am not sensitive at all.
    I have chained up all my juice
    buttons inside my heavenly fathers
    kingdom and safely out of your reach.

    I do love everyone even those who line themselves up as
    enemies or opponents of mine.
    I am a man of faith and a teacher of the truth
    not a preacher of my personal beliefs..
    My church is inside my heart where
    the spirit of my father is hosted by Jesus.

    I am nothing but a humble stone mason and self taught
    law scholar.
    I studied earthly law not the heavenly law above the nation.
    My earthly father before he died read through the Bible many times.
    He knew it well.
    He made me give my word to learn mans earthly law.
    I could feel his spiritual guidance and presence
    as I was studying.
    I did not have the money for law school
    or any college yet I found curriculum on-line
    covering many subjects.
    I studied law at this site

    Home

    When I had learned enough his spirit started
    emerging from within and now takes over in any
    situation where I am confronted with any civil
    servant.

    The law is coded both earthly and heavenly law.

    My father’s spirit can use my flesh to sign
    a document,so I do not have to contract
    with the government myself.
    This is how he moved me out of their jurisdiction.
    So My god or heavenly father has no power like
    a super hero yet he has the highest authoritative
    signature known to mankind.
    the signature of my father in heaven.

    My documents and testimony will stump any prosecutor
    on this earth.
    First I show up and insist that my legal domicile
    is in Winston McKinney’s kingdom of heaven on earth.
    My father will assume the office of public defender for me and
    will state that I cannot speak and I take the 5th.
    He then assumes all the public positions needed to defend me.
    1.Legal guardian
    2.highest authoritative custodial agent. I was his only begotten because,
    out of five children he gave a name to, I was the only one he got custody of.
    This sounds funny when said in court as him..(in his spirit)
    3.Public defender.
    4.effective assistance of counsel.

    Courts love to assign someone to give your rights away for you.
    I beat them to the punch by assuming all those offices in my creators
    spirit..

    Who better to protect creator given rights than ones own creator..

    My father was only a mortal man until 1999 when he left this earth.
    His spirit will protect me from all accusations..

    This is what was known in the early days of this nation as
    a real and true spiritual revival..

    Unless you or any judge or prosecutor on earth can prove his spirit
    is not alive in my heart with Jesus I shall attack every accusation
    in his spirit and identity..

    When My story gets out and it will get out.
    Many people will have a revelation in
    the way they think about religion and
    spirituality.

    People will realize the spiritual nature of the afterlife and
    there hearts will wax cold. They will lose all the warm
    fuzziness that came from years of being a bunch of religious nuts
    when they should have been spiritual fruits..

    I am the first fruit of my father who was dead
    but is now alive..
    I am the son of that specific man.

    No more generalities for me. I insist on being
    specific about who, what and where my god is.
    I cannot possibly be anywhere but where he is..

    Seek ye first his kingdom is code for challenge jurisdiction.

    Love and respect to all without prejudice

    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

    #846958
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    Rhino
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    As for MGTOW of course you can be MGTOW and worship God.

    Here is a good article found here about what the Bible says about being unmarried and single.

    Also a thread was made awhile ago about this on our forums found here:

    /forums/topic/bible-verses-supportive-of-mgtow/

    This quote was well researched and I will share it from the above thread.

    Many of these have already been posted above. But here’s my take.

    Proverbs 5:1-13 I especially take note of this statement: For the lips of an adulteress drip honey And smoother than oil is her speech;4 But in the end she is bitter as wormwood,Sharp as a two-edged sword.5 Her feet go down to death,Her steps take hold of Sheol. (OUCH!!!!)

    Ecclesiastes 7:26-28 – 26 And I discovered more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, whose hands are chains. One who is pleasing to God will escape from her, but the sinner will be captured by her.

    27 “Behold, I have discovered this,” says the Preacher, “adding one thing to another to find an explanation, 28 which I am still seeking but have not found. I have found one man among a thousand, but I have not found a woman among all these. (Slam dunk by Solomon, he basically says out of 1000 women, he has not found one who is upright. LMAO)

    I Corinthians 7:8 – 8 But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I.(Paul wasn’t married)

    I Corinthians 7:32-34 – 32 But I want you to be free from concern. One who is unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord; 33 but one who is married is concerned about the things of the world, how he may please his wife, 34 and his interests are divided.

    I Corinthians 7:38 – 38 So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who refrains from marriage will do even better. (Notice the last statement, “will do even better”)

    Proverbs 21:9 – It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife. (can’t get much clearer than that)Proverbs 27:15-16 – A continual dripping on a rainy day and a quarrelsome wife are alike; 16 to restrain her is to restrain the wind or to grasp oil in one’s right hand. (in other words, it’s (restrain) impossible, so avoid even going there, it’s a recipe for failure)

    Proverbs 30:20 – This is the way of an adulteress: she eats and wipes her mouth and says, “I have done no wrong.” (Solomon identified the Western Woman thousands of years ago…what a hoot!)That’s just a few and like I said, most of these were already covered by other posters.

    Only this post showed up I posted two more in response to G.O.A.T they are probably in pending topics right now or maybe they were too long if they don’t show up in the next day or so I will repost them.

    #846961
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    Vajra Varaha
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    LMAO
    G.O.A.T. clearly worships a god. His is just a small one. And troll-like.
    Yeah that was a dick joke.
    Deal with it.

    #846968
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    NoMore
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    I second Murph. Going your own way is different for each of us. When you do, you will allow yourself to be subjugated at times to various rules, regulations, doctrines, rites, etc. You enjoy traveling, you follow the rules re: passports, customs, and boarding. You enjoy religion, you follow doctrine, rites, and rituals. You work at a certain profession, you are subject to schedules, certifications, and standards.

    Each of us accepts or rejects these controlling aspects of how we go our own way. I’m a physician and I mostly rejected the scheduling by only working evenings and nights, because that is what I wanted. However, I’m still required to be there at certain times, maintain my certifications, and perform to certain standards.

    Ridiculing someone for being religious if that is the way he wants to go is strange. I could just as easily talk down to Sky-O for pursuing skydiving as a dangerous hobby that produces no tangible benefit. I would be wrong. That is him going his own way and the tangible benefit is his own enjoyment and happiness. Conversely, I would expect the religious to not denigrate those going their own way as a-religious or of other faiths.

    A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

    #846969
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    Uchibenkei
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    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Keep on telling yourself that.
    GYOW, yet going the way of a God? Lol.

    If a man willingly chooses to walk that path, that’s still his own way. Also, you need to separate god and religion. They’re not the same thing. A man can believe in god and not subscribe to any religion. His choice. I don’t believe in god but that’s my choice and was made separate from my choice to my own way.

    I bathe in the tears of single moms.

    #846978
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    Aroused By Her Anguish
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    I’m an atheist. I do not believe that MGTOW has an influence on a person’s religion. I can tell you one thing. I am much happier as an atheist than I ever was as a Christian.

    #846994
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    ForeverDone
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    I don’t. I’m agnostic until someone proves it to me with hard scientific evidence. However, if other’s need a crutch to believe in, not a problem. That’s what fairytales are for.

    #847005
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    Carnage
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    I dont see the problem with being a believer and GYOW, however i disagree that mgtow is based on believe sistem.

    God might or might not exist.

    However, 50-70 % divorce is real, divorce rape is real, false DV, jail time is real, IM NOT HAPPY…. is real and i know it.

    Mgtow is a fact.

    Faith is believing without evidence.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #847070
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    Anonymous
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    I dont see the problem with being a believer and GYOW, however i disagree that mgtow is based on believe sistem.
    God might or might not exist.
    However, 50-70 % divorce is real, divorce rape is real, false DV, jail time is real, IM NOT HAPPY…. is real and i know it.
    Mgtow is a fact.
    Faith is believing without evidence.

    Indeed. MGTOW is based on truth. We all know men in our lives who have been destroyed in divorce and family courts. Some have experienced it first-hand. I watched my own father get destroyed by my stepmom. She cheated on him with one of his best friends, then took him to the f~~~ing cleaners in divorce court. She hardly worked the entire time they were married while he busted his ass for 12 hours a day. It was a real wake-up call on how things work. I don’t avoid women because of some belief system that completely lacks evidence. I avoid women because I’ve seen men that I care about get destroyed by divorce and family courts and false accusations. I’ve known men who have been forced to pay child support for kids that aren’t theirs, and have paternity tests to prove it. I don’t believe marriage is dangerous because “somebody told me so” or because I read about it in some old book. I’ve WATCHED good men get destroyed by the system. Every day men are bombarded by misandry, and people really expect us to believe that we avoid women because of some belief system?

    #847078
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    G.O.A.T
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    I dont see the problem with being a believer and GYOW, however i disagree that mgtow is based on believe sistem.God might or might not exist.However, 50-70 % divorce is real, divorce rape is real, false DV, jail time is real, IM NOT HAPPY…. is real and i know it.Mgtow is a fact.Faith is believing without evidence.

    Indeed. MGTOW is based on truth. We all know men in our lives who have been destroyed in divorce and family courts. Some have experienced it first-hand. I watched my own father get destroyed by my stepmom. She cheated on him with one of his best friends, then took him to the f~~~ing cleaners in divorce court. She hardly worked the entire time they were married while he busted his ass for 12 hours a day. It was a real wake-up call on how things work. I don’t avoid women because of some belief system that completely lacks evidence. I avoid women because I’ve seen men that I care about get destroyed by divorce and family courts and false accusations. I’ve known men who have been forced to pay child support for kids that aren’t theirs, and have paternity tests to prove it. I don’t believe marriage is dangerous because “somebody told me so” or because I read about it in some old book. I’ve WATCHED good men get destroyed by the system. Every day men are bombarded by misandry, and people really expect us to believe that we avoid women because of some belief system?

    This.

    MGTOW is truth, backed up by EVIDENCE.

    Child support, alimony, child custody, divorce rape, cheating, lies, gold digging, and many more. These are all things which we witness/witnessed with our own eyes, that destroyed countless men. Denying it, is denying the truth.

    Faith is believing in something without any evidence, whatsoever.

    Money is God.

    #847086
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    Ranger One
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    LMAOG.O.A.T. clearly worships a god. His is just a small one. And troll-like.Yeah that was a dick joke.Deal with it.

    Troll-like?
    It turns to stone when exposed to sunlight?

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #847170
    Vajra Varaha
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    Ranger One, I tip my hat to you sir! Good one!

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    Rhino
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    You want to end this debate because the truth always wins against evil. Not surprising since you tried to pull the same stunt like this a month ago. I will be posting 3 long posts on this topic so please have patience with me and I apologize for the wall of text. When it comes to God I have to refute what is being said by this person.

    The Pope again

    G.O.A.T almost made the exact talking points on page two of this thread like you did in the thread I linked above so let me repost what I wrote to save on time by pasting here what we said in the other thread.

    The baphomet is a symbolic figure to me, I do not worship something that doesn’t exist.The baphomet to me, represent darkness, rebellious nature, lover of life, lustful, and above all, free will.

    Just because i don’t accept your God, doesn’t make me a low-life. No, I’m a free thinker, who does his will, who doesn’t believe in a greater authority.

    Like you I have free will you can do as you wish and I can do as I wish. It is easy to go around and living life with no consequences anyone can do that. Having restraint and a understanding of what God expects of you is not a prison but a blessing. No one said you are a low-life what I said was low quality meaning you behave in a manor suited to people who tend to be liars, selfish to the point where it hurts others as an example. For me a low life would be a criminal in every sense of the word. Not sure if you are lying or ignorant but I will prove my point as you continue to read.

    I don’t believe in your God, because of his murderous ways, not because of “false prophets”.

    Your God flooded the earth, killing millions upon millions of people, including innocent kids and animals. After that, the murderer regretted his actions.

    Above is false and I am not sure if you are trying to lie to fit your narrative or if you are ignorant.

    Genisis 6:5

    And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

    7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

    8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD

    The only thing God regretted as you can see in the bolded text that he made man to begin with. He never regretted the flood or removing those who were wicked. You will not find any reference in the King James Version of the Bible that claims he regretted removing anyone. You call it murder you don’t understand how God views us at all. God created us and has the power to remove or correct his creations because he has the right to do so. If a robot goes berserk and does everything against its creators wishes does the maker of the robot become a murder because he decides to shut it off or remove it from existence? Everyone dies eventually does that mean God is a murderer for allowing for every human to eventually die?

    If god was such a murder why did he not just kill the entire human race and be done with it? Why are we here today talking if God was evil as you claim. Even after his creation rebelled against his wishes God chose to give us a second chance and we failed him again.

    There is a difference between murder and killing. If someone is about to be killed and defends himself by killing someone is he considered a murderer too? Is the hangman who puts a murderer to death for his crime guilty of murder too? If a man or a woman who is being raped in prison and is able to kill his attacker is he guilty of murder too? These are just some examples of those who are guilty may deserve a death sentence. People get away with these acts all the time and God sees everything he is the final judge and executioner of his creations. Here is a good example of why God kills instead of murders. Link.

    He killed 80,000 soldiers, because King David numbered the enemies forces. Yet, David lived. He wiped about 6 figures of innocent people because a King sinned.

    The figure was not 80k it has been debated and scholars can’t agree between the figure but rough estimate is between 50 to 70 thousand. Nowhere in the bible will you find that God killed “innocent” people at least not in the King James version. Here let me do the work for you here is a link where you can educate yourself where the words killing and innocent can be found in the entire bible.

    God condemned an assortment of Israelite soldiers to death he didn’t kill all 800 thousand “valiant men that drew the sword” after the census was complete because not all of them were guilty and he knew exactly what he was doing.

    The son of Elijah, a prophet, was walking, and some kids made fun of his hair style, and he cursed them in the name of God. Your beloved God sent two she-bears, who devoured them, and ripped them to pieces.

    Elijah never had a son what you meant to say was his pupil Elisha. That story can be better explained here and here. You have to understand during the times in the Old Testament it was a grievous sin to mock God and people would be stoned to death for doing it and if not God would take care of them.

    God killed every first born son in Egypt, because pharaoh didn’t want to free the Israelites. Funny thing, HE, HARDEN the heart of pharaoh, to not let go of his people. He murdered innocent children just so he show off his power.

    Yeah lets skip the fact that the Pharaoh killed every Hebrew boy. All of them not just the first born where as god only killed Egypt’s first born not ALL. Ex. 1:22. God sent ten plagues (10 chances) for the Pharaoh to change his ways and free the slaves who were Gods people but instead the Pharaoh continued to mock God and his followers and let people around him die. How many chances did Pharaoh give to the Hebrew people before their son’s were put to death? Answer is none.

    There are many interpretations to the events but here are two different angles to look at.

    Exodus 12:23

    God did not kill the first born instead “the destroyer” did.

    This link is a good read and ties in well as to Gods motivation. Remember God was willing to give up is firstborn son Jesus to save us all God is not the only one that escaped this fate as he dies cruelly on the cross.

    But, I’m the low-life for not bowing down before such evil entity? Lucifer on the other hand, freed mankind from God’s slavery.

    I would rather worship Lucifer with all my heart, then to honor your God.

    Does not surprise me you brought up Lucifer in this argument. Luciferians are taught these talking points and it also doesn’t surprise me they are filled with lies and not truthful when you start to pick them apart. Add your avatar picture and name and you get a complete picture of what you truly believe in. But keep saying you are free thinking and don’t follow any religion (even though you have religious evil idol in your name and avatar). Yeah we will take your word for it but who am I to judge live your life anyway you want.

    No one is telling you to honor God or any other entity you can choose what you want to do with your life be an atheist or a Luciferian for all I care but when you call out God as evil it is my duty to defend him because he talks through all of his worshippers. Religious organizations have become corrupted with evil not God that is Satan’s plan and it is working judging by the way you are reacting to this.
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    People have killed millions, upon millions in the name of “God”, then shifts their atrocities towards “Satan”. Beheading, bombing, and all type of evil, was done in the name of religion, thus, God.

    You are assuming to know the motives behind millions of evil peoples thoughts? The current Pope hides behind the cloak of religion and calls himself Christian yet he is a Luciferian like yourself. If he was to call a holy war against another religion would it be at the behest of God, Lucifer or for his own gain and motives? Don’t look at what a man says but instead look at what he does.

    People have used religion as an excuse to fulfill their agenda for thousands of years it doesn’t mean God commanded every single person to do so. Lucifer and God have been at war since the start don’t put all the blame on God alone for the devil is the deceiver just like you in this thread now. You say you hate religion yet have said you are Luciferian and keep spouting how great he is and how he freed you from Gods bonds. No instead he put you in a prison and you will soon find out just how deceived you were when your time comes to pass from this mortal realm. You haven’t learned from history and neither have those who are taking up your cause to try to convert people to the dark side.

    Let’s take a look at the Bible.

    God flooded the earth, killing millions upon millions of innocent men, women, childrens, animal, and infants.

    Another lie. Man and every person on earth was utterly evil and corrupted except for Noah and the 7 people he brought on the arc.

    Genesis 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. All flesh, meaning every living thing on earth and guess who played a large role in that? Lucifer and his fallen angles.

    A closer look as to why the flood occurred can be found here.

    God wiped out a whole city because they were homosexuals. Lot was considered “holy”, yet got drunk, and got f~~~ed by his two daughters.

    God wiped out Sodom and Gomorrah for many sins. There is a debate among scholars as to homosexuality being the main cause of their destruction. Here are two interpretations that can be found on this subject.

    Link 1 and Link 2.

    Regardless of what the main reason was God is very clear that homosexuality is an abomination and just because it has become normalized in our world today does not mean it is moral in Gods eyes. Did you guys know that Luciferians practice sexual magic and try to gain spiritual power through intercourse? They even have books written about it here is one example. Luciferian Tantra & Sex Magick.

    By the way Lucifer and Satan are the same being never forget that. Here is a link to what Satanist and by extension Luciferians do when among their covens. Link. Luciferians will argue they are not apart of Satanism and they are different religion but no they are so similar like the various reformations that took place in Christendom that the differences do not make it a completely new religion.

    As for Lot and his two daughters there is a good read that can be found here. Lot was not “Holy” as you put it although God did see him as a righteous man. Remember Lot just lost his wife after she turned to look at Sodom and was turned to a pillar of salt. He was grief stricken and morning. His daughters wanted to commit incest with Lot because they thought he was the only man left on Earth. They found him at his weakest point and got him drunk and had sex with him. Typical female behavior they wanted to get pregnant where have we seen that in todays world? If you read the link they don’t paint Lot in a good picture he chose to get drunk so he is partially to blame after all he is human and not some divine saint you paint him out to be.

    God killed his wife because she looked back…God killed every first born in Egypt, because pharaoh didn’t want to free his people, yet, he’s the one who heartened Pharaoh’s heart.

    God killed 80,000 soldiers, because David sinned, yet David lived, but others lost their life.God sent two she-bears to devour, and eat a couple of kids, because they ridiculed a prophet.

    Already covered in previous post above you have same taking points I debunked everything already yet you still continue with your lies. You cannot battle the truth or God as both always win.

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    Some people say “man’s rules are good and rational”…. Then you take a look how California is going, is OK to contaminate someone with HIV, but straws are illegal…

    Damn. You had to mention straws. Plastic straws, I assume. Consider me triggered…

    I think it was straws that killed off the polar bears – right?

    Exactly those straws !! Is funny how c~~~s that drop cellphone batteries at rivers and oceans at least twice a year have such concern about the environment ! If you consider that most food comes in plastic packages, most things you buy come in plastic packages, etc… Plastic straws won’t make a single difference. IMHO this is just political bulls~~~, the last thing those people care is about the environment.

    Remember the “so, give me 10 reasons you need an assault rifle !”, now it is “so, give me 10 reasons you need a straw !”

    Here is how you trigger a leftard with only one image !!

    Just look at how much toilet paper tuna use. If women were limited to the same amount of tp a man uses we could end world hunger and all environmental concerns.

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    Some people say “man’s rules are good and rational”…. Then you take a look how California is going, is OK to contaminate someone with HIV, but straws are illegal…

    Damn. You had to mention straws. Plastic straws, I assume. Consider me triggered…

    I think it was straws that killed off the polar bears – right?

    Exactly those straws !! Is funny how c~~~s that drop cellphone batteries at rivers and oceans at least twice a year have such concern about the environment ! If you consider that most food comes in plastic packages, most things you buy come in plastic packages, etc… Plastic straws won’t make a single difference. IMHO this is just political bulls~~~, the last thing those people care is about the environment.

    Remember the “so, give me 10 reasons you need an assault rifle !”, now it is “so, give me 10 reasons you need a straw !”

    Here is how you trigger a leftard with only one image !!

    Just look at how much toilet paper those tuna use. If women were limited to the same amount of tp that men use we could end world hunger and all environmental concerns. Not to mention all of the other toiletries they consume. Every womans bathroom has a half truck bed of that crap mind you, all in plastic bottles. They love those bead soaps too which are wrecking havoc on our sewage managment systems and environment. Hypocritical bulls~~~.

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