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I wouldn’t of bothered to post this here, but I saw a few people identify themselves as Christian in another thread. I have seen, like from Sandman, a negative view of the Christian religion, and going your own way is supposed to not involve connecting with God in any way, and is supposed to mean that one is just supposed to tend to their sex drive and urges and how dare anyone be told otherwise, and how dare you restrain men like that? Well, for some, the path of MGTOW can be that they avoid sexual relations with women. If the modern male-female marriage and dating area is so messed up, why shouldn’t a guy choose to skip it? And if their religion says to do this, why have issues with this? And if following someone, and having discipline because it works best is what works, why have issue? I would say some don’t see liberation as an end in itself, but a means to an end. So, in this regard, please let people who want to be Christian or whatever, let them do it. So, on this note, let me give some Bible verses I have seen that can connect to MGTOW. It is a religious form, so have it in that context.
So, onto Bible verses supportive of MGTOW (at least certain forms of it):
* 1 Samuel 17:38-40. David rejects Saul’s armor and decides to fight Goliath on David’s terms, not what Saul thought worked.
* Book of Daniel. Daniel faced death a number of times in the book, due to the King having bad advice given him that would threaten Daniel’s life. It was done to target Daniel.
* Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil. (Matthew 5:37). My take: Being able to have your words mean something matters. In this context it speaks of one’s words counting, and meaning that, with out the need to swear or bring anything else into make one’s word be taken seriously. I consider this good advice and integrity a solid trademark of going one’s way.
* Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. (Matthew 7:6) In short, don’t waste and be stupid about things.
* The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.” Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.” (Matthew 19:10-12). My take: If need be, avoid women, sex, etc… because the demands are high. It is also written Jesus supporting counting the costs.
* Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. (Romans 12:2a)
* Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another. (Romans 13: 8a). My take: This kind of love spoken of isn’t a normal type. It can be translated charity, and positive regard for others. My take is that it means that one isn’t to end up being driven by guilt and should be free of obligations that enslave.
* All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything. (1 Corinthians 6:12)
* 1 Corthinians 7 (this is edited to try to focus on MGTOW sections)
– v1. Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”
-v21 (b). if you can gain your freedom, do so.
– v27. Are you pledged to a woman? Do not seek to be released. Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife.
-v28 (b). But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.
– v33-34. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband.
* Flee youthful lust (2 Timothy 2:22a)
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
1 Corinthians 7 is the first that always tend to think of. Although I haven’t read it in years and hadn’t remember it was about devoting time towards God instead. Regardless, Christians really shouldn’t have a problem with someone not getting married.
Ephesians 5 is a bit more concerning to me. It talks about how men should love their wives as they do themselves, and wives should revere their husbands (it doesn’t say love). I don’t know that husband’s are loving their wives, but no fault divorce is in direct contrast to reverence of husbands.
Eph 5: 33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
Of course, this means nothing if you aren’t don’t believe the bible is truth in this regard. For that reason alone, I think stating one’s case through logic and such is a much better way to go.
Ok. Then do it.
1 Corinthians 7 is the first that always tend to think of. Although I haven’t read it in years and hadn’t remember it was about devoting time towards God instead. Regardless, Christians really shouldn’t have a problem with someone not getting married. Ephesians 5 is a bit more concerning to me. It talks about how men should love their wives as they do themselves, and wives should revere their husbands (it doesn’t say love). I don’t know that husband’s are loving their wives, but no fault divorce is in direct contrast to reverence of husbands. Eph 5: 33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. Of course, this means nothing if you aren’t don’t believe the bible is truth in this regard. For that reason alone, I think stating one’s case through logic and such is a much better way to go.
I was not getting into what married men need to do and so on, because my take on MGTOW is a core part is not getting married. What I do see from MGTOW to married men, is for them to not be needy, and be able to stand on their own, and become people of integrity. It means standing on what is right, and not being manipulated. This can end up being leadership in a marriage. There is what SHOULD be marriage, and then there is reality. In all that, I see a case of a man being strong, and if the woman leaves, he can stand being single. What one does shouldn’t be dependent on what others do.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Except, a man cannot get married and play that leadership role anymore, since the wife will not follow. For marriage to work, in the biblical sense, both leading and following have to happen. No fault divorce releases women from the role of reverence. In some sense, when their are children involved, men are never released from their leadership role in that they still need to provide the finances and be the fatherly example.
Theoretically, two people could get married and take on these roles and be successful, but there will always be this pull for the woman to break out of her role and kill the marriage…because feminism.
I agree with you though, avoiding marriage is the way to go both logically and fitting within a biblical sense. However, I’d be lying if was trying to live out a biblical life.
Ok. Then do it.
Anonymous9The Bible is so full of contradictions.
Take everything with a grain of salt, and the context of many sayings aren’t even applicable to our day and age.
The Bible is so full of contradictions. Take everything with a grain of salt, and the context of many sayings aren’t even applicable to our day and age.
I don’t take the Bible as some sort of constitution for a Yacht Club where you can just build a church out of nothing by reading it. There is historical context that needs to be understood. I would hold what is there generally true, and so on. There is issues though how much is actually doable, particularly the marriage commands. People can do them, if they can find the unicorn, but that is a problem. Without the context of the roles there and so on, people can’t do it. There is also biases of family being nuclear, which is a mid-20th century bias involved.
Anyhow, the point of this thread here isn’t to discuss the validity of the Bible, but provide Christians support for going MGTOW. I request people please let it sit this way, rather than express your disagreements at things. Please don’t undermine someone going MGTOW because you disagree with something they consider valid. One can argue that what I said isn’t MGTOW in it, and show how, the verses and whatnot. But you do have Christians here, and they can use whatever support they get to go their own way.
So, can I request people NOT try to debate the Bible using this? If it isn’t for you, please leave it be, and let others for whom it is for, accept it.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I understand the basic message of Christianity (as I’m a part of it), and I can’t see how many Christians today are so gynocentric and such woman-worshipers. I can see how women are allegedly “Christian” in the lukewarm sense. As I’ve stated before in previous posts, the men of today would bow down to her and the Bible expects her to be simply submissive to the husband, respect him, and let him lead. Thanks to feminism, they think they can have their cake and eat it too (quite literally in some cases). It’s like they forget that they were given the assignment of being a caretaker and are to look up to the man. I can’t say the same about non-Christian women, so their behavior doesn’t surprise me.
It’s the “Christian feminists” I’m particularly addressing here. They proclaim “I can wear whatever I want and you shouldn’t look because lusting after a woman is a sin” (I’ve seen this on Christian-related Facebook comment posts) while they conveniently forget that it’s also stated that CAUSING someone to stumble is a sin as well.
When a woman molests a teenager/child, or murders a man/child, they misinterpret the infamous verse “judge not lest ye be judged,” while not realizing that verse has to do with not being a hypocrite. The irony is the women calling out that judging is wrong are judging the action of judgment…thus that would technically make them the sinners…wouldn’t it? 😉
The Bible’s many “contradictions” can very much be explained (most can, at least), the Bible is just a difficult book to grasp without reading it all the way through and understanding its true meanings and contexts. Some Bibles today (either with commentaries or more modern translations) help with that, although only a little.
Here are a few good verses.
Proverbs 5:1-10
The very last verse sounds an awful lot like the men who are paying child support and alimony.
There are articles like this, and other things I have read, that speak to men getting shorted when it comes to Church:
http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/churchandministry/menhatingchurch.aspx
Apparently women are seen as more religious, so Christianity tries to pander regarding that. Anyhow, none of this has to do with the Bible verses. I would hope they prove to be of some value.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Proverbs 31:10
An excellent wife, who can find? For her worth is far above jewels
Proverbs 21:9
Better to live on the corner of a roof than to share a house with a nagging wife.
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...Well, I stopped being actively religious for quite a long time now (almost 30 years) to be honest.
Then again, funnily enough (or quite ironic really), that we now seem to have a christian pastor as a, let me cautiously put it “mild semi supporter” of MGTOW. The reason I say this is that on the one hand he meanwhile seems to understand our motives and where we are coming from and he’s telling “ordinary people” about us in his latest video (maybe some publicity for us), but his solutions (as in “Just do try your best and find yourself a good woman…”, way much easier said than done as we all know…), which basically rather caters towards the recent stupid “neomasculinity” idea, still won’t go very far with us, surely. But take your own picks about Pastor Dowell, people and give us some feedback on this one (this video is very new):
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
So, I took the original post above and did a video of it for my Sling YouTube channel:
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Verses? How about the The book of Genesis: Woman destroys man’s paradise.
I would vigorously shake the hand of the apostles/prophets who wrote Adam and Eve, and left it for all men to ponder. The actions of a woman destroys man’s paradise is a story that still plays out in divorce and anti-family courts every day.
Adam and Eve is probably the truest story ever told.
….. except in every painting, they have belly buttons.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Verses? How about the The book of Genesis: Woman destroys man’s paradise.
I would vigorously shake the hand of the apostles/prophets who wrote Adam and Eve, and left it for all men to ponder. The actions of a woman destroys man’s paradise is a story that still plays out in divorce and anti-family courts every day.
Adam and Eve is probably the truest story ever told.
….. except in every painting, they have belly buttons.And I would say a MGTOW response would be, for a guy to do what he needs to, and not listen to what a woman tells him to do, particularly when he is supposed to know better. But no, she brings it to him, he does it, and then he says, “It is the woman you gave me who did this”. Take damn responsibility for your life, is what I would say here. I take going your own way is own your own way and not doing what you are supposed to. But NO… you have stuff like Samson, where you end you making excuses and allow bad things man to happen.
Anyhow, just my take. And I see my take gets disliked sometimes, as I saw with this video I did on Samson:
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
As a non believer, if your way involves God, then go for it.
I think Paul said something about marriage isn’t for everyone.
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
As a non believer, if your way involves God, then go for it.
I think Paul said something about marriage isn’t for everyone.
I did a number of videos on that. Apparently you have some in church circles that try to say it was just a “present crisis” back then which doesn’t count for today, and men need to keep the whole “man up” business.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Many of these have already been posted above. But here’s my take.
Proverbs 5:1-13 I especially take note of this statement: For the lips of an adulteress drip honey And smoother than oil is her speech;4 But in the end she is bitter as wormwood,Sharp as a two-edged sword.5 Her feet go down to death,Her steps take hold of Sheol. (OUCH!!!!)
Ecclesiastes 7:26-28 – 26 And I discovered more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, whose hands are chains. One who is pleasing to God will escape from her, but the sinner will be captured by her.
27 “Behold, I have discovered this,” says the Preacher, “adding one thing to another to find an explanation, 28 which I am still seeking but have not found. I have found one man among a thousand, but I have not found a woman among all these. (Slam dunk by Solomon, he basically says out of 1000 women, he has not found one who is upright. LMAO)
I Corinthians 7:8 – 8 But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I.(Paul wasn’t married)
I Corinthians 7:32-34 – 32 But I want you to be free from concern. One who is unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord; 33 but one who is married is concerned about the things of the world, how he may please his wife, 34 and his interests are divided.
I Corinthians 7:38 – 38 So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who refrains from marriage will do even better. (Notice the last statement, “will do even better”)
Proverbs 21:9 – It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife. (can’t get much clearer than that)
Proverbs 27:15-16 – A continual dripping on a rainy day and a quarrelsome wife are alike; 16 to restrain her is to restrain the wind or to grasp oil in one’s right hand. (in other words, it’s (restrain) impossible, so avoid even going there, it’s a recipe for failure)
Proverbs 30:20 – This is the way of an adulteress:she eats and wipes her mouth and says, “I have done no wrong.” (Solomon identified the Western Woman thousands of years ago…what a hoot!)
That’s just a few and like I said, most of these were already covered by other posters.
Anonymous7I have no problem with christianity.
A lot of the verses support MGTOW ideology like you stated.
It is my personal belief that religion was made to guilt and control the populous.
I have no problem with christianity.
A lot of the verses support MGTOW ideology like you stated.
It is my personal belief that religion was made to guilt and control the populous.
Organizations will do that, whether involved with religion, politics, etc…
I was reminded of it this past Sunday, where I felt like I was looking for something and decided to stop by a chapel, and I had an manager there read material on hell and so on. There was also “Do X and get blessings”. Seriously guy? We just met, you didn’t even have a flipping chance to hear my issues, and you dump that. I could go into more details on this, etc… but let’s just say that area of Christianity, whenever I try to meet with them, NEVER goes well. I explained it to him once more about that, and he has me read it. He managed to get my phone number, so I guess I will be getting a call by one of the ministers.
I don’t know anyone who can really speak to what a man being MGTOW goes through in life, in a way that would connect. It is a sad state of affairs when I may be one of the few voices on YouTube doing this. I am really not qualified. But as they say about, “in the land of the blind”.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
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