Marriage, Mortgage, Kids…f~~~ that s~~~

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Canadian Sports Fan

I got involved with Mgtow when I saw the original poster (OP) for this thread.  His Non de Plume  is Vector.  Vector is now a free man after we snatched him from the jaws of servitude.  Vector had one huge uphill battle, against his ex who out and out said to him “I’m going to own you”.  Yes it was an epic struggle which included the subterfuge of his mother no less.  Read over the first few pages of this thread.  Vector posted a number of updates.  Then I suggest that you contact Vector himself.  Bet he’s now doing great.

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

Robert Hallam wrote:

Canadian Sports Fan I got involved with Mgtow when I saw the original poster (OP) for this thread. His Non de Plume is Vector. Vector is now a free man after we snatched him from the jaws of servitude. Vector had one huge uphill battle, against his ex who out and out said to him “I’m going to own you”. Yes it was an epic struggle which included the subterfuge of his mother no less. Read over the first few pages of this thread. Vector posted a number of updates. Then I suggest that you contact Vector himself. Bet he’s now doing great.

I believe I know him from another message board under the same name.

I’ll do that.

 

[PolyamoreternalParticipant 2]

torch1980 wrote:

I’ve been there. You are me 15 years ago

Vector – plenty os excellent advice posted here  – and Oh how I wish I’d seen this site 15 years ago also, You are soon to be a Winner!

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

Vector,

Good read OP, read through your posts.  Boggles my mind how…eerily similar some things are between your (former) situation and mine. Granted, to be fair, I think my girlfriend is a LOT less of a conniving bitch than yours, however the warning signs are still there.

Sounds like you got out before it was too late. You’re the asshole in your family’s eyes, and her’s too, but in a few years, you’ll forget all about her, and your family will move on. That’s probably one of the hardest parts for me to get out, is her fam is very tight and they’re all going to paint me as the devil.

Also sounds like you made out ok financially as well!  I didn’t see you posting that she’d raked you over the coals for a bunch of $$$ (I guess there was no legal ground for that).

I see another possible future for OP that OP avoided where he was married, miserable, with kids and a cheating wife (bro she definitely sounds like she was cheating or for sure capable of cheating).

 

[Anonymous 4]

No dude…DON’T Say s~~~ to her when she gets back!!!! DO NOT DO IT!! You need to silently plan this. Get your 1/2 of the finances out of the joint account (UNF~~~ING WISE), get a new place set up and ready to go. Then when she’s at work one day get everything of yours moved out to your new place which should be in a DIFFERENT TOWN. THEN pick her up from the train and drop the bomb. Move on with your life. TRUST ME DUDE…Been there done that and THIS is how it’s done. Don’t f~~~ up.

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

Anonymous wrote:

No dude…DON’T Say s~~~ to her when she gets back!!!! DO NOT DO IT!! You need to silently plan this. Get your 1/2 of the finances out of the joint account (UNF~~~ING WISE), get a new place set up and ready to go. Then when she’s at work one day get everything of yours moved out to your new place which should be in a DIFFERENT TOWN. THEN pick her up from the train and drop the bomb. Move on with your life. TRUST ME DUDE…Been there done that and THIS is how it’s done. Don’t f~~~ up.

 

You need to read the thread, he’s already free and clear.

[Sessna12Participant 119]

Great thread… Vector ftw!

"We can no more stop him from marrying than we can stop him from making a well researched decision to poke his eyes out with a stick."
-Sidecar

[comesemfomeParticipant 10]

This is the first post I followed here and the Vector’s saga, in its essence,  is the same one of almost all brothers here.

I expect you’re having good times Vector!

 

[uhls214Participant 4]

Walk away ! I did, at age 52. I would rather be lonely, than sorry ! I love my independence and freedom more than being a controlled ,social toy in chains. I am a widower with a daughter,and blood is thicker than water.RUN AWAY! One night I sat and thought about my life. I realized that every bottom in my life involved a woman, and how much happier my life would have been without them !

[LupusParticipant 214]

Listen to the Doc, he knows what he’s talking about. I would go so far as to move everything that is yours out of her reach, NOW. Get another place while she is gone and only tell her when she gets back in the public place Doc said.
Hell, it might just be safer for you to text her when she gets back and do not leave any means for her to contact you.
Burn your current phone and get a new one. Remove any link she may have had that could connect her to you.
Nothing good is going to come of this one.
This is not cowardice, it is common sense. The law is not going to be on your side if she pulls some crazy s~~~.
The police men and judges will most likely choose her side.
Just leave and be free brother.

[uhls214Participant 4]

You are so intelligent ! Walk away ! While you still can ! I am a single,widowed father, who at at 52,thought I could find someone to be with ! I found a princess, living off of her uncle’s mafia money,but it’s “her money”.I almost married her. She wanted a $10,000 ring !!! I am broke, busting my ass everyday to support myself AND my daughter.”Her money is her’s.Your money is her’s!A woman’s life is a non-stop shopping and social spree ! Trust me, I know !! I walked away, to simplify my life ! I work and take care of my daughter, drink beers, watch what I want on TV,eat what I want, sleep when I want. And i don’t have a never-ending list of things to do,and social events to attend ..I don’t need someone to tell me when to s~~~, and when to p~~~. (A stubborn Aquarius )

[GreatDaneParticipant 7]

I’ve only read the first 2 posts from Vector but my impression is that she might be one of the good ones.
She makes more money than him at a VERY good job yet lives with him at his parents house. That says something.
Vector says he wants to get as much puss as he can and avoid a mid life crisis. That’s OK but it’s not her fault.
It’s not her fault he has changed his mind about kids and marriage.
That “I will rule you” s~~~ is a sign of playfulness. Just like she is all the time vector and her are not arguing.
Now, you might be getting cold feed about a major change in your life, bro. That is understandable.
But don’t jump to conclusions. I actually suspect this guy is a feminist plant preying on mgtow for magic rainbow points.
If this s~~~ is real and you genuinely want to end it, give her an easy out so you two can move on with your lives with as little drama as possible.
You know damn well she wouldn’t allow you to escape with your dignity intact. Be a man and do it right.
Move into an apartment with her name on the lease. Since she makes more money, that should be easy to convince her.
Then let it ride for a few months. See if the magic is still there with you two.
If not, you can move back in with your parents and she can stay at her own place.
That’s another reason I think vector is a woman. Everything they are saying is geared toward a dramatic confrontation.
Be wise my brothers! The evil ones are among us!

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

You know, for someone who is new and had only a 1.5 line intro, you seem to be quite confident in accusing a longstanding member of betrayal and falsification of identity.

I also can’t help but note that the majority of your post is geared towards justifying the girl’s position and attempting to minimize what she did.

Evidence 1:

GreatDane wrote:

she might be one of the good ones.

Evidence 2:

GreatDane wrote:

That’s OK but it’s not her fault.

Evidence 3:

GreatDane wrote:

It’s not her fault he has changed his mind

Evidence 4:

GreatDane wrote:

That “I will rule you” s~~~ is a sign of playfulness.

Evidence 5:

GreatDane wrote:

I actually suspect this guy is a feminist plant preying on mgtow for magic rainbow points.

Special note about that last one- we call that PROJECTION. I am starting to think that you are projecting what YOU are on Vector. Also, where the hell did that statement come from?

Evidence 6:

GreatDane wrote:

That’s another reason I think vector is a woman.

Evidence 7:

GreatDane wrote:

The evil ones are among us!

Yes they are, and I for one am going to scrutinize what you write very carefully.

Stop trying to gain credibility by trashing longstanding MGTOW members .
Stop trying to be an imposter.

[GreatDaneParticipant 7]

I’m a man. And f~~~ you, I think you are another feminist covering for Vector.
The guy (if it is a guy) got himself into this situation, he needs to man the f~~~ up and scoot proper like.

Oneforfreedom wrote:

she might be one of the good ones.

To say that ALL women are f~~~ing monsters makes us just as bad.

Oneforfreedom wrote:

That’s OK but it’s not her fault.

Vector says he wants to get as much puss as he can and avoid a mid life crisis.
What the f~~~ does that have anything to do with the bitch? It is literally not her fault.

Oneforfreedom wrote:

It’s not her fault he has changed his mind

Vector literally said he told her he wanted marriage and kids when he really didn’t. He literally f~~~ing said that. Learn to read, bro.

Oneforfreedom wrote:

That “I will rule you” s~~~ is a sign of playfulness.

I should have said “..CAN be a sign of playfulness”. I don’t know the situation very well to make a call except that long term intent is inconclusive.

I like to think there are genuine success stories that work 50/50 favoring neither side. They are RARE. But this guy is jumping the gun. He needs to come back in a couple months with an update after he moves out of his moms house and gets some real time with this lady to see what is actually up.

And f~~~ you.

[Quiet ThomParticipant 116]

Jay-Sus uhls214! I also was widowed at 52, have a fully grown daughter (and a fully grown son. Like yourself, I figured out, very quickly, what women were all about. Welcome, Sir….and God Bless!

[Quiet ThomParticipant 116]

Oh Yeah…..also an Aquarian.

[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

My Mother, basically a saint, who my old man talked out of a convent when she was 19, said ” a bad woman is worse than a bad man.” She got p~~~ed at me for breaking up with my most recent ex and would not talk to me for a year, my mother!!

My daughter , whom I raised, just related a story about one of her married girlfriends with the quote “women are crazy.”

My most recent ex, said ” I would not date a woman, they are crazy.” She was bi. So she would f~~~ them but not date them.

Grate Dane sp “And f~~~ you.” That is how a p~~~ed off woman would respond. She should also read the whole thread, not spout BS with only a piece of the story. Also a woman trait.

A guy would not give a s~~~ what you thought. I’m sure she will flame me ” I don’t give a s~~~.”

[GreatDaneParticipant 7]

Nah. I can spot bulls~~~ from a mile away. Ain’t nobody got time for that.
It seems I’ve become a magnet for incognito feminists.
Someone take notes.

[numbCruncherParticipant 772]

Marriages at my workplace this year = 2
Divorces at my workplace this year = 2 (different people than those who got married).

(Out of around 120 employees).

Average cost of UK wedding £21,000
http://www.immediate.co.uk/news/brand/you-your-wedding-survey-reveals-the-average-cost-of-a-wedding-is-over-20500/

Average cost of UK divorce £44,000
http://www.aviva.com/media/news/item/uk-cost-of-divorce-reaches-44000-for-uk-couples-17337/

That is £130,000 – almost exactly $200,000 – straight down the s~~~ter.

You say "love is a temple, love the higher law" ...You ask me to enter, but then you make me crawl. And I can't be holding on to what you got, when all you got is hurt

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

numbCruncher wrote:

Average cost of UK wedding £21,000
http://www.immediate.co.uk/news/brand/you-your-wedding-survey-reveals-the-average-cost-of-a-wedding-is-over-20500/

Average cost of UK divorce £44,000
http://www.aviva.com/media/news/item/uk-cost-of-divorce-reaches-44000-for-uk-couples-17337/

That is £130,000 – almost exactly $200,000 – straight down the s~~~ter.

great point
i’m gonna hire you as my accountant…….

average cost of being MGTOW, $0 or £0 or whatever currency you want to use.

this is a great thread. i enjoyed reading it…..

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

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