Mark's guide to pump and dump (criticism most welcome!!!)

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

Meh, whatever works for you bro, I just hope you realize the risks. If you need to learn the hard way so be it.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[MorpheusParticipant 2177]

Mark, where you are crossing the line, is by going online with a fake account. Women spent a lot of time on online dating sites. If someone from your history sees your photo with a different name, you are shooting for some online popularity..

[TicParticipant 4329]

here’s my problem with this>

1. people here have a big issue with Wendy Williams hosting a show and promoting the woman to trick they guy into having a baby (remember that episode)
that’s because it’s based on deceit and we SUPPOSEDLY don’t condone it. But, yet, we’re should be okay this type of behavior if a man does it. F~~~ that. that’s beneath me.

2. The basis on all of this is the notion that pussy is such high value prize, that one would be willing to go through all that s~~~ just to secure it, and in a very devious way, to discourage blowback. Sounds like this isn’t the way for a MGTOW group. Sure goes against everything that we are supposed to be. But, it goes very well with the idea of PUA.

3. It hints to some psychological issue. It seems to me that it stems from two types of scenarios
a. you hate women. they hold a power over you because they have something you want…vagina…and you want to attain it, at ALMOST any cost. You resent them for that power, therefore, you go to extended lengths to attain it, but, also in a mischievous way in order to prevent consequences and retain that power. They don’t know the real you, so you win as they fail to realize they were taken until it’s too late.

b. you need self validation from female contact. You don’t value yourself unless you can “score.” anytime you can sleep with a new woman, it gives your low self esteem a boost, relieving you of that anxiety. It’s a drug that keeps you coming back. But, to prevent the negative consequences of the side effects, you attain it in the most devious way.

both a & b point to some childhood trauma.

Now, in conclusion, in no way do I care if you actually do any of this. You asked for criticism, so there it is. In fact, I believe in Karma…it gets you at the end.

The law of the universe is that for every action, there is a reaction. And, so eventually, you will pay for your actions.

God bless peace and freedom.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

I have nothing further to add to this.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

mark wrote:

I have my own take on women. As a man, I like to f~~~ women. Is part of my biology and, while I can deny it and go monk, I can also roll with it, which is what I do. I swear off women at the office and on the street, but I take them on in my sex life.

OK.

mark wrote:

My MGTOW statement is not to eliminate women from my sex life, but to take a true equality approach to the battle of the sexes: They want my money, I want their holes.

I have a good friend who has generally the same attitude. There was a time when I would have said he was stupid, but if such an exchange works for him, then who am I to say anything?

BUT –>> a sex-for-sex exchange is already a “fair” exchange.

So should she get your money too? Is her time and attention worth more than yours? Doubtful. And, the moment a man realizes that women are hornier than you – and have more sexual partners than you – justifying an arrangement like that becomes increasingly silly.

mark wrote:

They have government and laws. I have my brain. See who wins.

As far as you’re concerned, are women for f~~~ing? Or fighting with. If you’re duking it out with them until someone “wins” (or loses) you may be going about it wrong… and you’re playing with fire.

Combative, competitive & hostile is something I would even put up with in the slightest.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

mark wrote:

Wall of text

Did I read all that? No.

Your post suggests that we still require something from women. We don’t. I didn’t become mgtow, so I can then jump thru hoops to get laid. LMAO.

It doesn’t matter how much success we had or not had with women, the message is the same… ‘I am fine on my own, thanks’.

Talking to a woman is too much effort.
Spending any amount of time around a woman, even with sex, is too much effort.

The last girl I had sex with… every 2 weeks or so, she would drive 40 mins to my apartment. She would stay the night a few times. It just gets to the point dude where I would rather rub one out in the shower, than get it from a time-suck meathole. Seriously. I just stopped replying to her texts.

I think those purple pills you are taking, might need a factory recall.

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

Keymaster wrote:

BUT –>> a sex-for-sex exchange is already a “fair” exchange.

Exactly. Why should any bloke have to be investing all that other crap just to get laid? The girl IS NOT doing the guy a favor!

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Cap285 wrote:

PUA snake oil.

Did. Not. Read.

90% PUA strategies are even very dumb.
There aren’t “strategies”: the only thing is keep smiling and talking, the only phase that requires a bit of “strategy” is isolating her from her group. There is nothing else to add. Regular use of whitening toothpaste, perhaps, if you’re a smoker or you don’t see the dentist too often.

Take in example their test about “would you buy me a drink?”.
PUA answer is: “no, you buy a drink to me”.
Wrong, men aren’t going to get laid with that, nor by buying her a drink.
Right answer is:
“Sure, but I have money for just only a drink. We’ll have to share it”
Or, if you already have a drink in your hands “I don’t have money for other drinks, we can share that”.
Either she refuse or you’re going to kiss her in less than 5 minutes (and perhaps to get an herpes, but that’s another thing).

I never tried the above: a woman never asked me to buy her a drink. I did something similar with marijuana, once, 20 years ago, but that’s not important: there isn’t a manual for those things, whoever have some experience knows how it works and at such point there’s no need to try a “strategy” to understand if it works.
Experience is made by try & fail, nothing else, and it doesn’t take so much time: every MGTOW who is still virgin can have sex in less than three months for sure and probably in a matter of a month, he have just to try with multiple women each weekend, caring exactly zero about rejections and being careful to begin to hit on women he does NOT like (quality is achieved later).

Then, after having had enough sex, he’ll understand it’s not worth the effort.

PUA “strategies” are a waste of time: men who want to get into the meathole don’t need such crap.

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[MorpheusParticipant 2177]

Make her feel like a princess, she will think about f~~~ing you only after a few minutes. There is norhing more to pua strategy.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Meh
Whatever floats your boat.

I dont even expend that much energy or resources hunting moose, elk, or deer, and 1 or 2 of those will put meat/food on my table 364+1/4 days a year, until I’m physically unable to hunt.
Why in the world would I expend that much energy for sex a couple times a month or a year?

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I saw a guy recently who had venereal warts on the inside of his urethra. I wouldn’t want to be that guy. Condoms don’t fully protect against HPV.
If you jump ladies, please be careful.

I personally have injested too many red pills.
I have a hard time staying in the same room with a woman, let alone jump her. While my body likes sex, my mind can’t reconcile it.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

I saw a guy recently who had venereal warts on the inside of his urethra. I wouldn’t want to be that guy. Condoms don’t fully protect against HPV.
If you jump ladies, please be careful.

I personally have injested too many red pills.
I have a hard time staying in the same room with a woman, let alone jump her. While my body likes sex, my mind can’t reconcile it.

Yikes, you made me remember a few patients from the infectious deseases department when in was in training.

🤢

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

So…

You are spending a lot of time, money, and effort on an elaborate formula to get sex.

Time (creating a false identity, changing your appearance over days, weeks, or months).

Money (AirBnB, prepaid phone, motels).

Effort (Online dating, emails, and the whole rigmarole of dumping her strategically).

And then you repeat the whole thing many times, for each woman you f~~~.

This doesn’t sound like MGTOW at all. It sounds like Man Going After Women.

Sure, you’re not getting married, but you’re still wasting a lot of hours of your life which could be spent far more productively. Porn is a lot faster, cheaper, and easier.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

Not sure I understand the reasoning behind changing your appearance every 3 months. These women don’t live in the same city and a fairly large enough metropolitan area means that the chances of you running into these women again is fairly low.

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

So your strategy involved setting up dating profiles, then traveling to other cities, staying at a hotel or AirBnB’s, taking out the broad for a couple of meals and then nailing her. Out of curiosity, what is the average amount of money you spend on a single lay? I know you said that you get free stays at a hotel which is fine but if you were paying hotel and air travel costs wouldn’t it be cheaper to simply hire an escort?

[markParticipant 451]

foghornleghorn wrote:

So your strategy involved setting up dating profiles, then traveling to other cities, staying at a hotel or AirBnB’s, taking out the broad for a couple of meals and then nailing her. Out of curiosity, what is the average amount of money you spend on a single lay? I know you said that you get free stays at a hotel which is fine but if you were paying hotel and air travel costs wouldn’t it be cheaper to simply hire an escort?

Sorry, it is my fault that I did not elaborate on that point, which has brought your perception that I spent any money on this. Allow me to clarify:

My job involves travelling, so all the expenses above are covered. The only money I spend on any of those dates is a cup of coffee. I explicitly refuse dinners.

However, as I explained several times, not because of money but because of energy it would always be better to hire hookers and, after all, they pretty much have the same c~~~ mileage on them. However, hookers are seldom legal and bring their own type of problems (scams, pimps, etc…).

Within the premise of getting laid with a real human, this is the best option I have found so far.

[markParticipant 451]

foghornleghorn wrote:

Not sure I understand the reasoning behind changing your appearance every 3 months. These women don’t live in the same city and a fairly large enough metropolitan area means that the chances of you running into these women again is fairly low

Women are truly mischievous creatures.

Many years ago, when I was still perfecting my technique, I had a woman how, after being dumped, found where my parents live and flew all the way to their home…in another CONTINENT I kid you not.

When a woman gets f~~~ed for free she doesn´t like it. And with all those years of entitlement they know they can do any craziness and get away with it. So, in the same way I don´t forget to carry my helmet before I ride my bike, I change my appearance from time to time. Standard safety.

[markParticipant 451]

Silver Fox wrote:

So…

You are spending a lot of time, money, and effort on an elaborate formula to get sex.

Time (creating a false identity, changing your appearance over days, weeks, or months).

Money (AirBnB, prepaid phone, motels).

Effort (Online dating, emails, and the whole rigmarole of dumping her strategically).

And then you repeat the whole thing many times, for each woman you f~~~.

This doesn’t sound like MGTOW at all. It sounds like Man Going After Women.

Sure, you’re not getting married, but you’re still wasting a lot of hours of your life which could be spent far more productively. Porn is a lot faster, cheaper, and easier.

Yes and not. Money I don´t spend because I do this while traveling for business, which is often enough. Time and effort…well, time is minimal, and effort is only for preparations because once you have your fake identity the show runs itself.

Man Going After Woman? Well, the same claim could be (respectfully) make for MGTOW, which could be viewed as Man Running Away From Women. It is all a matter of perspective.

I do not see MGTOW as anything other than “Men Going Their Own Way”. I am not controlled, dependent, or affected by a woman. From my point of view, sometimes you need to deal with things you don´t like in order to get things you do like. For instance, some MGTOW live humble lives in order not to go to an office. I prefer to make more money going to the stupid office.

And nope, I am not going on the cheap excuse of “yeah I am getting married because that is going my own way”. I simply prefer flesh than porn, and since hookers are most likely illegal, this is the second best option for my preference.

[markParticipant 451]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

I saw a guy recently who had venereal warts on the inside of his urethra. I wouldn’t want to be that guy. Condoms don’t fully protect against HPV.
If you jump ladies, please be careful.

I personally have injested too many red pills.
I have a hard time staying in the same room with a woman, let alone jump her. While my body likes sex, my mind can’t reconcile it.

Thanks for your kind advice, and RESPECT for your choice.

The only religious thing I ever do is condoms. I wear them religiously.

Personally I despise women in general but for a good reason: I despise them because can see their advantage and they choose not to even think about it. Yesterday I had to open the eyes of a lady friend of mine to the fact of the sexism involved with the “ladies night” in bars (free entrance and/or drinks for women). She told me she never even thought that this could be sexist.

BUT, I like to f~~~ them. So f~~~ I do 🙂

[markParticipant 451]

Eric Lauder wrote:

90% PUA strategies are even very dumb.

I respectfully challenge you to find on my very lengthy text one the elaboration or explanation to any PUA reference or technique.

That is what happens when one make a comment without reading. And this is why the country is where it is: People being manipulate because they prefer to read what is short, easy, and comfortable, instead of reading what is written and making their own ideas about it.

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